[AFMUG] End users contacting Provider consultants

2020-02-19 Thread Timothy Steele
So I just had an odd experience an end-user contacted me via my website wispconsult.com she used my site chat to leave her phone number said she had a network issue and to call her I called back within 15min and left a voice mail I also sent her an email she then sends me an email 10 minutes

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Injector power question

2020-02-19 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Not disagreeing with you at all. One challenge we always seem to have is about how to keep up documentation on how to configure the device for specific radios and what voltages work with which radios, and how to do this in a way which doesn't bite someone in the rear when the radio manufacturer

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Ferric Chloride kills the coronavirus. From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 9:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs? My bare pcb provider got the go ahead to restart production Monday.

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-19 Thread Chuck McCown
My bare pcb provider got the go ahead to restart production Monday. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 19, 2020, at 7:54 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > >  > Shit, the other thing is when will China be a viable supplier again? Anyone > seeing shipments from China? We use 3 chinese suppliers and they are

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-19 Thread TJ Trout
Shit, the other thing is when will China be a viable supplier again? Anyone seeing shipments from China? We use 3 chinese suppliers and they are MIA, wondering when things will become normal again? On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:57 PM Peter Kranz wrote: > Correct.. >

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-19 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
Correct.. https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Lifepo4-Batterie-Lithium-48V-Lifepo4-Lipo_62343352866.html?spm=a2700.details.deiletai6.9.61a95ffebuB5z3 Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-19 Thread TJ Trout
Peter, so just over 1k$ for 100ah@48vdc? On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 5:08 PM Peter Kranz via AF wrote: > Second calc is wrong: > > > > The equivalent LiFePO4 new unit: > > > > 1x MeritSun LFP100-48 Units = $1100 (138 lbs) > > @100% DOD = 4800Wh of storage in a package 16”deep and 8.7” high or

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-19 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
Second calc is wrong: The equivalent LiFePO4 new unit: 1x MeritSun LFP100-48 Units = $1100 (138 lbs) @100% DOD = 4800Wh of storage in a package 16”deep and 8.7” high or $.22/Wh So its actually half the price of my Deka solution per Wh. Peter Kranz

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-19 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
In the old days I would have certainly home brewed stuff like this, and there is nothing wrong with it if you do it cleanly. But now that I am in volume deployment mode, I want devices that are ethernet connected and snmp capable, all buttoned up in a nice form factor with fusing, etc. all

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Injector power question

2020-02-19 Thread Tyson Burris
We blew two radio ports today on the old style gear. Hopefully the documents clarify things better moving forward. Love the product but honestly the lack of current and accurate documents is the main shortcoming that cost us a tower climb. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-19 Thread TJ Trout
you should be able to diy a solution for .12c/Wh, that's what I'm doing, would be cool to see if anyone else is doing anything similar? Just need some lifepo4/li-ion modules, a 60v bms and a rack shelf.. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 2:28 PM Peter Kranz via AF wrote: > Chuck, something you may want

[AFMUG] Frontier Quotes

2020-02-19 Thread Nate Burke
I was helping one of my customers who has an office in another state. They just got Frontier DSL Installed, they should have a /30 available to them. It looks like it wasn't provisioned correctly, as traceroute shows it's looping in the Frontier Network. They got the frontier Tech back on

Re: [AFMUG] Rack Injector power question

2020-02-19 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
The manual is out of date.The current revision (B0) boards don't care. I've got a lot of documentation work to catch up on starting right after the Base3 starts shipping. The documentation changes are pretty much all things like this which just make things easier for people instead of

Re: [AFMUG] Advice on spending

2020-02-19 Thread SmarterBroadband
We have one. Very happy we purchased it. Going to be great with CBRS eNodeB alignments and registration. We use on dish alignments and it works really well. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 8:50 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT - turo.com

2020-02-19 Thread Cameron Crum
I find it is usually cheaper, but even at the same price, the convenience is worth it. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 3:06 PM wrote: > How does the price compare with normal rentals? > > *From:* Layne Sisk > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2020 12:50 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread chuck
Is the BTTB tunneling also turned on? (blast through the building) From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 1:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget Yeah, we are using eoip

Re: [AFMUG] OT - turo.com

2020-02-19 Thread chuck
How does the price compare with normal rentals? From: Layne Sisk Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 12:50 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - turo.com I use it all the time, and in fact I rent a car that I own out on it. It works great! Layne Sisk

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Yeah, we are using eoip tunneling. Network is IPV6 From: AF on behalf of Dan Spitler Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 2:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico |

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Gino A. Villarini
WE are using Facebook trial hardware From: AF on behalf of Mathew Howard Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 11:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget Yeah,

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Hey Colin, thanks for the kudos. The picture is not from our actual deployment. No idea where Engadget got it… From: AF on behalf of Colin Stanners Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 10:37 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT - turo.com

2020-02-19 Thread Layne Sisk
I use it all the time, and in fact I rent a car that I own out on it. It works great! Layne Sisk ServerPlus 801.426.8283, ext 102 [New logo xl] [http://i.imgur.com/VOz763A.png] [http://i.imgur.com/xvQYYWa.png]

Re: [AFMUG] UV Resistant Label Machine

2020-02-19 Thread Lincs_Chel
Hi; Both the Heat Shrink and the IND Flexible Nylon labels are UV rated (according to the Dymo specs). Industrial-strength tear-proof adhesive resists moisture, extreme temperatures, UV light and more so labels won't curl or fall off - UL recognized as a component to UL 969

Re: [AFMUG] UV Resistant Label Machine

2020-02-19 Thread Lincs_Chel
Hi Matt; I use either the 19mm (3/4in) and the 24mm (1in) sizes for the Dymo flexible series.  Depends how you want to wrap the cable. But both sizes work well for CAT5 cable (outdoor, STP and UTP). The amount of info you wish to be printed will dictate the size. I found the smaller fonts

Re: [AFMUG] Your a strange one, Mister Grinch

2020-02-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
thanks for tips!!! Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 9:43 AM wrote: > Well if it is exactly so many seconds it will surely help. > Start with low gain and work your way up with antennas. > Or just try to sample the area with an omni and signal

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Dan Spitler
The radios are Facebook's https://fccid.io/2AK7S-FBC1601 No idea where the building-blasting marketing came from; that's definitely not the case. Gino: How are you offering IPv4? We (and Magyar Telekom) had to tunnel over v6 which... bleh. On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 9:23 AM Bill Prince wrote: >

[AFMUG] Rack Injector power question

2020-02-19 Thread Adam Moffett
From the manual: "Important: At least one of the power sources must be of positive polarity – the current revision of the RackInjector control board needs at least one positive voltage in order to operate. If multiple positive power sources are available, it will pull power from the input

Re: [AFMUG] Advice on spending

2020-02-19 Thread David Coudron
We looked at a bunch of different options and decided to build a simple device using a metal framing square and a rifle scope. It works really well. Basically we pick a landmark 1-2 miles out in Google Earth before climbing the tower. Then when we are on the tower, we clamp the square/scope

Re: [AFMUG] Advice on spending

2020-02-19 Thread Steve Jones
Specifications: Azimuth accuracy: 0.5º Tilt and roll accuracy: 0.1º Position accuracy: 60 cm with SBAS The real time roll is something that would be nice, with the structures we mount to and the mounts we use, getting the mast completely plumb isnt always an option, if i can have real time tilt

Re: [AFMUG] Advice on spending

2020-02-19 Thread Adam Moffett
For sectors we like to assemble the standoffs on the ground and pre-mount the antennas.  On the ground we can take the time to measure precisely and make sure the antennas are at the correct angles relative to each other.  Then tell the tower guy "mount this plumb and turn the assembly until

Re: [AFMUG] Advice on spending

2020-02-19 Thread Steve Jones
We are getting some accessories. I have an old TruPulse that I really like, but its my personal one and Im not sure its calibration is good. I like that it will do the maths for me to get accurate AGL even if I have to put it at an angle because of structures in the way, so that drives the cost up

Re: [AFMUG] Advice on spending

2020-02-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
I could see it for APs, especially if you are going to these narrow beam horns. For backhaul links, especially licensed links, I would just use a multimeter on the BNC connector if the radio has one, or the alignment tool in the GUI otherwise. Maybe it would make sense to prealign the

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Bill Prince
Never let reality mess up your fantasy. bp On 2/19/2020 9:10 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Tech arrives at front desk.  “Hi, I’m from Facebook and I’m here to blast through your building.”  

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Tech arrives at front desk. “Hi, I’m from Facebook and I’m here to blast through your building.” Maybe they mean throughout buildings. The hype seems to involve massive antenna arrays, sounds like the old assumption that with multipath you can bounce off the furniture and find a path.

Re: [AFMUG] Advice on spending

2020-02-19 Thread Darin Steffl
We have one and it's very nice. We only use it to aim sectors and horns. For backhaul dishes, there no need to use it in my opinion since we use landmarks to get the aiming started. With sectors, there's no way to aim it like a dish so this tool is very helpful. It should be under $4600 as that's

Re: [AFMUG] Advice on spending

2020-02-19 Thread chuck
I had a project, still have a project to build one. Not trivial because the baseline between the two GPS receivers is very short. Maybe I will finish it someday. If you buy one, let me “borrow it for a few days”... Elevation is very simple. You can buy a cheap electronic level from any

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Mathew Howard
I recall seeing quite a few buildings in Puerto Rico that 60ghz would go through just fine... On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:48 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > Maybe they're open-air buildings? ;-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

[AFMUG] Advice on spending

2020-02-19 Thread Steve Jones
I got approval from the boss to order a smart aligner. Ive been looking at this for a while, particularly with the need for accuracy in CBRS. Not looking to use it at customer sites, just backhauls and access points. We have historically never been verifiably accurate on azimuths, probably rolled

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Colin Stanners
60Ghz will go through buildings as long as their walls / doors are shoji https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%8Dji On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:44 AM wrote: > Well the press release talked about it going “through buildings”. ... > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2020 9:06

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Bill Prince
That is a case of marketing getting ahead of reality. Also note that they say the maximum distance is 250 meters. That is not a building penetrating signal. Probably not even a window penetrating signal. bp On 2/19/2020 8:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Mike Hammett
Maybe they're open-air buildings? ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 10:46:32 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Fw:

[AFMUG] Fw: Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread chuck
“the 60GHz millimeter-wave wireless tech that blasts internet through buildings “ I just want to hear it from Gino. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 9:43 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico

Re: [AFMUG] Your a strange one, Mister Grinch

2020-02-19 Thread Bill Prince
or someone has a nearby transmitter that is turned up well beyond what might be needed. I'm inclined to agree with Jaime's theory. bp On 2/19/2020 8:40 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I was trying to convince myself it could be

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread chuck
Well the press release talked about it going “through buildings”. ... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 9:06 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget Is that a rhetorical question?

Re: [AFMUG] Your a strange one, Mister Grinch

2020-02-19 Thread chuck
Well if it is exactly so many seconds it will surely help. Start with low gain and work your way up with antennas. Or just try to sample the area with an omni and signal strength alone. Enough samples and you will have a decent direction. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] Your a strange one, Mister Grinch

2020-02-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
I was trying to convince myself it could be some weather or military radar that does a 360 degree sweep every 4 minutes, and that PIM was creating a difference frequency of 950 MHz. But your explanation makes more sense. In which case somebody has an OOBE problem or is not on their assigned

Re: [AFMUG] Your a strange one, Mister Grinch

2020-02-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Suspect it's a utility because of intervals associated with polling. The water utilities has over 800 well and lift stations working at 928.xxx and 952.xxxMHz ...you can actually hear them polling on a scanner! On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 9:18 AM Bill Prince wrote: > and 900 MHz is not all that

[AFMUG] OT: Voip Innovations Support

2020-02-19 Thread Nate Burke
Has anyone noticed a change with VI Support since Sangoma took over? Without any data to back it up, it fees like I'm sitting on hold longer before someone picks up. They can still always solve my problem when I get through to someone, But they all sound like they're sitting in the middle of

Re: [AFMUG] Your a strange one, Mister Grinch

2020-02-19 Thread Bill Prince
and 900 MHz is not all that directional; a signal strong enough to overload will be difficult to find a direction on. bp On 2/19/2020 8:05 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Good luck.  I hate trying to locate interference

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, I think everybody here probably knows the answer... On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:07 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Is that a rhetorical question? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 19, 2020 10:04 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:*

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is that a rhetorical question? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2020 10:04 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget So how well does 60ghz blast through buildings? Sent

Re: [AFMUG] Your a strange one, Mister Grinch

2020-02-19 Thread Ken Hohhof
Good luck. I hate trying to locate interference sources. If it only occurs for 1-2 seconds once every 4 minutes, that will be even more difficult. Maybe at least you can determine what frequency and channel width it is using, and the signal level. To figure out if it is on the exact same

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Chuck McCown
So how well does 60ghz blast through buildings? Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 19, 2020, at 6:15 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > >  >   > > > Gino Villarini > Founder/President > @gvillarini > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 > m: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, but what brand? There are several different companies working on Terragraph equipment (including Cambium) On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 8:42 AM Bill Prince wrote: > Terragraph. > > https://terragraph.com/ > > > bp > > > > On 2/19/2020 6:39 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > What brand is that

Re: [AFMUG] Your a strange one, Mister Grinch

2020-02-19 Thread Jaime Solorza
Will see what I can find today and tomorrow... On Wed, Feb 19, 2020, 5:08 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Electric Utilities are pretty constant in my experience. If it is > licensed, you can call the FCC. They have the best equipment for > finding interfering signals. > > On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Bill Prince
Terragraph. https://terragraph.com/ bp On 2/19/2020 6:39 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: What brand is that equipment anyway? On 2/19/2020 9:35 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: Gino, this looks

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Adam Moffett
What brand is that equipment anyway? On 2/19/2020 9:35 AM, Colin Stanners wrote: Gino, this looks great for you, just note that in that picture there is a flat-faced part of a mount on both sides of a round pole. I don't recommend doing so as the flat face can "swivel" around the pole with

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Colin Stanners
Gino, this looks great for you, just note that in that picture there is a flat-faced part of a mount on both sides of a round pole. I don't recommend doing so as the flat face can "swivel" around the pole with vibration or one end can "slide" down further than the other, which may be issue with

Re: [AFMUG] Facebook's gigabit wireless rolls out in Puerto Rico | Engadget

2020-02-19 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/756812e5-24a6-4693-a923-7a1d8f55546d.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Your a strange one, Mister Grinch

2020-02-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
Electric Utilities are pretty constant in my experience. If it is licensed, you can call the FCC. They have the best equipment for finding interfering signals. On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 10:08 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Just got a late evening call to help find a possible interference issue on > a