Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas

2020-03-04 Thread Nate Burke
See, back about 1000 years ago, they made cameras that, believe it or not, that's all they did, they couldn't even play games. But these ancient 'Cameras' had special tunable filters and were able to bend and modify beams of light to make far away objects appear closer, all without the help

Re: [AFMUG] giant cellular panel antennas

2020-03-04 Thread Steve Jones
What the hell kind of camera do you have that can zoom into a label that well? On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 9:39 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > So here are a few photos, anybody recognize these? And why just antennas > with no radios? > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, February

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread Steve Jones
Did this cruise not get quarantined? On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:43 PM Bill Prince wrote: > We think he got it on the cruise ship. From what I'm hearing, he's been > in the hospital for at least 4 days. Princess cruise from San Francisco > to Mexico. > > I don't have the whole story, as he was

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
We think he got it on the cruise ship. From what I'm hearing, he's been in the hospital for at least 4 days. Princess cruise from San Francisco to Mexico. I don't have the whole story, as he was married 4 times, and my wife's sister was #1. I'm kind of getting it from what she tells me after

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Sorry to hear that. I saw a news report this morning that seemed to line up and was afraid it was your relative. Report I think said something about a cruise to Mexico. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 5:26 PM To: af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread chuck
Condolences. Any idea where he got it? -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 4:16 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu He died this morning. You will probably see it in the news. He did have what they called "multiple competing

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
He died this morning. You will probably see it in the news. He did have what they called "multiple competing mortalities". bp On 3/3/2020 7:56 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Wow, that is sad.  Really brings the whole situation home. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Long article, lots of info, unless you distrust anything from the lying mainstream media: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2020/3/4/21154590/coronavirus-vaccine-treatment-covid-19-drug-cure From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:34 PM To: af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread chuck
I had a bottle capping machine. Carefully prying off the caps of an 8 pack of 16 ounce cokes, you could pour out some of the coke and replace it with other substances. Done carefully you could not detect the adulteration. I was the cause of some sickness on busses at times... From: Bill

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread Darren Shea
I’ve timed singing the chorus to Mr. Brightside in my head at 22 seconds, and singing it to myself won’t cause me to long for the sweet release of death as Baby Shark or Happy Birthday would. Yet… From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, March 01,

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
All coronaviruses (coronavirusi?) mutate so rapidly that by the time anyone produces a vaccine, the original target will have evolved itself out of existence. That's at least part of the reason we still don't have a vaccine for the common cold (also from

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
I thought the more aggressive strain was the original one though, so might not really be bad news. Now we have COVID-19 Lite? I would more ask does getting one confer immunity to the other, and what does this mean for vaccine development? From: AF On Behalf Of Steven Kenney Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Steven Kenney
It can continue in the body for 28 in some cases. Some people have recovered and then tested positive again weeks later. Now they've found a second strain which is more deadly. [ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8073543/TWO-strains-killer-coronavirus-spreading-study-claims.html |

Re: [AFMUG] 16.1 firmware / remote device type?

2020-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
I came across this looking for something else today: https://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-FAQ/Changes-to-PMP-Synchronization-Parameters-in-the-16-1-Release/td-p/108610 From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2020 10:28 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
Everclear is probably more cost effective. bp On 3/4/2020 9:51 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: There was a tweet from a Venture Capitalist that is well known for his very forward thinking investments about two months ago where he had a picture of his Costco carts filled with prepper stuff.   For

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
I grew up in central Illinois (East Peoria). We had many field trips to Chicago or Saint Louis , both of which were close to a 4 hour drive (by old yellow school bus). I don't recall getting sick, except for maybe our chaperones. bp On 3/4/2020

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Robert Andrews
Symptoms show in as 4-14 days, contagious in as little as 15 hours.. Some reports as little as 5 hours but that would be way too scary... On 03/04/2020 08:52 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: RemindMe! 7 days I doubt it's the WuFlu... it has an incubation period of 4-14 days with the initial symptoms

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Robert Andrews
There was a tweet from a Venture Capitalist that is well known for his very forward thinking investments about two months ago where he had a picture of his Costco carts filled with prepper stuff. For sterilizer he was buying very high proof vodka. Expensive but very available... On

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
When I was that age, an 8 hour bus ride would be enough to make me sick. Plus Disneyland. Remember when Penny takes Sheldon to Disneyland and she doesn’t heed Leonard’s warning not to buy him a churro? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 11:33 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Steve Jones
2 day onset of symptoms Cdc issued guidance yesterday, any doctor csn order kungflu test On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 10:54 AM Craig Baird wrote: > My daughter went to Disneyland last week for a few days with her high > school music department. She came down sick on the 8-hour bus ride home. >

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

2020-03-04 Thread Josh Luthman
LetsEncrypt is pretty awesome. Certbot works flawlessly as long as you don't fiddle around changing things on it. I use Xymon to monitor systems but whatever you're using otherwise, just send an alert if the cert is going to expire in <31 days. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Craig Baird
My daughter went to Disneyland last week for a few days with her high school music department. She came down sick on the 8-hour bus ride home. Flu-like symptoms, and it came on quite suddenly, which made us think flu. We took her to the doctor. He ran flu and strep tests. Both were negative.

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Matt Hoppes
RemindMe! 7 days I doubt it's the WuFlu... it has an incubation period of 4-14 days with the initial symptoms being mild. On 3/4/20 11:28 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Let’s hope it’s just regular flu.  Is she going to get tested?  Probably want to know in case other employees need to self

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

2020-03-04 Thread Lewis Bergman
They encourage you to support them. On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 10:06 AM Steven Kenney wrote: > +10 > > -- > Steven Kenney > Network Operations Manager > WaveDirect Telecommunications > http://www.wavedirect.net > (519)737-WAVE (9283) > > -- > *From: *"Steve

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Let’s hope it’s just regular flu. Is she going to get tested? Probably want to know in case other employees need to self quarantine. My son is sick this morning, but that’s because he’s a Bernie Bro. No vaccine for that yet. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

2020-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
If you’re using LetsEncrypt, watch your inbox: https://community.letsencrypt.org/t/revoking-certain-certificates-on-march-4/114864 From: AF On Behalf Of Steven Kenney Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 10:06 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

2020-03-04 Thread Steven Kenney
Whoops old reply! I replied to one that was in search when I thought I was in the list folder :) Oh and PS Apple sucks -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Steven Kenney" To: "af" Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions

2020-03-04 Thread Steven Kenney
+10 -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Steve Jones" To: "af" Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 3:54:10 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Security Certificate Questions I hate apple

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread chuck
My main production manager is sick this morning. She is the one that opened the PCBs from China a couple of days ago... From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:18 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping So... Costco here

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
Tep. A new life for Everclear:     https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ4Y9QPOzmA bp On 3/4/2020 7:40 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Ah yes, I see the answer to all our problems now. Stockpile Corona beer instead of water and it will protect

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Mathew Howard
Ah yes, I see the answer to all our problems now. Stockpile Corona beer instead of water and it will protect you from the virus... or you'll be too drunk to care. On second thought, Everclear is probably a better option... you'll be much drunker, and you can use it as hand sanitizer. On Wed, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yes, those photos from Kirkland WA have bothered me for awhile. I hope it’s not typical. Every photo from elsewhere in the world has shown workers better protected. The people at the Kirkland facility look like they’re ready for a pottery class not transporting patients with a deadly virus.

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHZ phased array antenna: 1G @ 1 mile

2020-03-04 Thread Mike Hammett
For sure the most attractive feature is full band support. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHZ phased array antenna: 1G @ 1 mile

2020-03-04 Thread Mathew Howard
yeah, the antenna itself doesn't look all that special, other than "They deliver consistent gain response over the 57-71 GHz unlicensed frequency band over a wide operating temperature range", and 44dbi with a 390mm dish is a couple db improvement over what's available now, but the fact that they

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Bill Prince
True. There is little difference between Bud, Corona and water. bp On 3/4/2020 6:18 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Maybe these folks don't trust their tap water?  The fluoride is a Communist plot to make us all sterile.  Ya gotta preserve

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread Matt Hoppes
There are now two version of the virus: S-Cov and L-Cov. L-Cov is what is believed to have gone through Wuhan and is extremely fatal. S-Cov is less fatal. What is here in the U.S. is unknown at this point. On 3/4/20 10:17 AM, castarritt . wrote: I see a lot of people in other forums that

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread castarritt .
I see a lot of people in other forums that seem to think the virus won't be as dangerous in the US because 'murica, but looking my average fellow Americans and our rate of comorbidities, I'm not so sure about that. Also, this:

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Corona beer might be on sale. Unfortunately beer not much use as hand sanitizer unless it's 120 proof. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020 8:19 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping Maybe these folks don't trust their tap water? The

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Lewis Bergman
Now that is a prepped scheme I can get behind. On Wed, Mar 4, 2020, 8:19 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > Maybe these folks don't trust their tap water? The fluoride is a > Communist plot to make us all sterile. Ya gotta preserve the precious > bodily fluids. > > Seriously though, we get flooding

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Adam Moffett
Maybe these folks don't trust their tap water?  The fluoride is a Communist plot to make us all sterile.  Ya gotta preserve the precious bodily fluids. Seriously though, we get flooding here on a fairly routine basis, and when there's floodwater in the wells the town will tell you not to

Re: [AFMUG] 60GHZ phased array antenna: 1G @ 1 mile

2020-03-04 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd suspect most of that distance advantage is coming from the higher frequencies. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jared Brown" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] micro-pop on power pole

2020-03-04 Thread fiberrun
> Has anyone deployed wireless equipment on a power company pole? I'm > just talking about something small in the communications attachment > space, small AP and backhaul. I gave up when the whole thing turned into a shitshow: permits, engineering and RF studies.. As noted, others have had

[AFMUG] 60GHZ phased array antenna: 1G @ 1 mile

2020-03-04 Thread Jared Brown
https://www.eenewseurope.com/news/60ghz-phased-array-antenna -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu

2020-03-04 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
This is not good news: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/who-says-coronavirus-death-rate-is-3point4percent-globally-higher-than-previously-thought.html On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 8:56 PM wrote: > Wow, that is sad. Really brings the whole situation home. > > -Original Message- > From: Bill

Re: [AFMUG] OT prepping

2020-03-04 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
So... Costco here looks like a prepper warehouse. The entire back wall is paper towels/toilet paper which is pretty typical, although it has also spilled down both sides of the warehouse and all the empty spots seem to have a case of paper towels or toilet paper in it. I'm guessing someone at