Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik

2020-06-09 Thread Mike Hammett
VPN concentrator is about the only think I can think of. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:32:01 PM Subj

Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik

2020-06-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, I'm willing to appear stupid and ask the question. What do you do with a router in the cloud? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:27 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik Managed to get it setup on Linode and seems

Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers

2020-06-09 Thread Jason McKemie
How are you marketing this? As a separate offering? Included? On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, Darin Steffl wrote: > We have a purchase agreement with them and have 150 routers ship every 2 > months. This way inventory is guaranteed and ships on time. We don't have > the same agreement for the 804Mesh

Re: [AFMUG] Cloud Hosted Mikrotik

2020-06-09 Thread Matt
Managed to get it setup on Linode and seems to be working quite well. https://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:CHR_Linode Anyone else using Linode? > Anyone using a cloud hosted Mikrotik router? Where and how much? We > have one Mikrotik we use to terminate a number of tunnels for modem > managem

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for Technical Writer/Documentation Person

2020-06-09 Thread Simon Westlake
There's a bunch of contract places out there. I've looked at a few, seems hard to find anyone competent that isn't already employed. On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, 10:23 AM wrote: > I have written lotsa technical manuals over the years. Tons of this > stuff. And while I slightly enjoy it, I am not tossi

Re: [AFMUG] Vendors for "long haul" fiber

2020-06-09 Thread Trey Scarborough
Oh and I have seen better pricing from AFL and Infinera on passive muxes than FS. Both are US companies. On 6/9/2020 1:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Passive mux’ is as cheap as you are going to find.  On the other end of the spectrum is Ciena, Lucent etc.  Big big dollars. *From:* Paul McCall

Re: [AFMUG] Vendors for "long haul" fiber

2020-06-09 Thread Trey Scarborough
Try Ekinops or packetlight It all depends on what you are trying to do. I have had some success with the fiberstore stuff and some nightmares. If you are wanting to move up to 100G+ I would go with another vendor just for support reasons. Also buy enough equipment that you have at least one spa

Re: [AFMUG] Aviat vs Bridgewave 11GHz

2020-06-09 Thread SmarterBroadband
We are running the Navigators in 18Ghz with sub-carriers. Restricted to 512QAM in current firmware. We are getting just over 2Gbps. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2020 8:27 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] Data center fire prevention

2020-06-09 Thread chuck
I am thinking that if you cut power, the fire is likely to go out. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 1:09 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center fire prevention On 6/6/20 6:46 PM, TJ Trout wrote: So one of our sites has become pret

Re: [AFMUG] Data center fire prevention

2020-06-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/6/20 6:46 PM, TJ Trout wrote: So one of our sites has become pretty darn important so I was considering a 'clean agent' fire system (like Halon) Wondering what you guys use? This room has a sprinkler, should I look at getting it removed? Or build a shield over our racks? If the fire did

Re: [AFMUG] Data center fire prevention

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Prince
Uh. In the engine compartment though? I think that qualifies as outside the cockpit? bp On 6/9/2020 11:58 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I used to fly a Cessna 210 that had a halon fire extinguisher.  I guess being knocked our by halon is better than flying a cockpit fire into the earth.

Re: [AFMUG] Data center fire prevention

2020-06-09 Thread chuck
I used to fly a Cessna 210 that had a halon fire extinguisher. I guess being knocked our by halon is better than flying a cockpit fire into the earth. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 12:45 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center fire

Re: [AFMUG] Data center fire prevention

2020-06-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/8/20 12:19 PM, Brian Webster wrote: We had halon systems in the main propulsion rooms on some of the Navy Ships (mostly gas turbine powered if memory serves me). We had things like an emergency escape breathing device you would wear on your hip while working in those spaces, you could stic

Re: [AFMUG] Vendors for "long haul" fiber

2020-06-09 Thread chuck
Passive mux’ is as cheap as you are going to find. On the other end of the spectrum is Ciena, Lucent etc. Big big dollars. From: Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 12:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Vendors for "long haul" fiber We are connecting to a DC us

[AFMUG] Vendors for "long haul" fiber

2020-06-09 Thread Paul McCall
We are connecting to a DC using dark fiber that we need to light up with a DWDM solution, with one regen spot and one regular breakout spot. We received quotes from Fiberstore.com and are looking for a 2nd quote "just because". I know FS is known as a good value, but didn't know if there is ano

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread chuck
There is excess capacity in the testing stations, but not the labs. The labs are backed up and one of the labs the state uses failed some kind of federal certification. So unsure if they are out of the running or not. Some director of state testing got removed from her position because she did

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Robert Andrews
Sounds like you have reason for the whole team and families to go, if there is still the excess capacity... On 06/09/2020 08:42 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 2 days. He supposedly took himself this morning. *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:39 AM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread chuck
2 days. He supposedly took himself this morning. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:39 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered Send him to a drive-thru testing station. What’s the turnaround on tests now in Utah? From: AF On Beh

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Send him to a drive-thru testing station. What’s the turnaround on tests now in Utah? From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:17 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered One of my guys called in sick with a fever thi

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread James Howard
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/coronavirus-asymptomatic-spread-who-bn/index.html looks like you’re sunk. They’re saying asymptomatic cases “rarely” transmit now but the German study says that it was often transmitted the day before or the day of symptoms appearing……. From: AF [mailto:a

Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers

2020-06-09 Thread Darin Steffl
We have a purchase agreement with them and have 150 routers ship every 2 months. This way inventory is guaranteed and ships on time. We don't have the same agreement for the 804Mesh so they're telling me 4-6 weeks out on that order since I did that on demand. So with Calix, I would highly recommen

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Prince
I remember that movie. Hamburgers (in the future) were deemed health food. ... and they uncovered a 200 year-old VW bug that still worked. bp On 6/9/2020 8:21 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: There was a Woody All

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for Technical Writer/Documentation Person

2020-06-09 Thread chuck
I have written lotsa technical manuals over the years. Tons of this stuff. And while I slightly enjoy it, I am not tossing my hat in the ring. My son who has a MSEE does this for the DOD. Seems like a waste of a degree to me. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:16 AM To: 'Animal

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
There was a Woody Allen movie Sleeper where in the future science has proven that wheat germ is poison, and fat and chocolate are health foods. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 10:04 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered Everyone sh

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread chuck
One of my guys called in sick with a fever this morning... And we had a safety training meeting yesterday morning and did not distance arrgh From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 9:03 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered Everyone should know that m

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for Technical Writer/Documentation Person

2020-06-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
You might consider an old fashioned headhunter, assuming they still exist in the age of online job sites and candidate screening software. Find one who specializes in an industry that needs good technical documentation. Tech writing is probably a lost art, judging by what passes for product

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Bill Prince
Everyone should know that margarine is poison. Butter rules! bp On 6/9/2020 7:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies.  Or butter vs margarine.  What kind

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-06-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Well, since there are no PALs yet, the SAS only protects incumbents from GAA. Once the PAL license takes place, PALs would be protected from GAA. As I understand it, GAA doesn't get protected from other GAA, it's up to you to do frequency coordination manually. And if a PAL holder needs your

Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers

2020-06-09 Thread Ryan Hill
Yep, we’ve created PO’s and placed all our orders till end of 2020. > On Jun 9, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > It's way worse now. You'll need to order 4-6 months out. My March order is > probably going to ship August from their projections. Hopefully UPS doesn't > lose it o

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread James Howard
Facebook is littered with it Pun intended? Based on the pictures I've seen, everywhere is littered afterwards... From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered I'm not

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread chuck
This reminds me of cell phone RF safety studies. Or butter vs margarine. What kind of diet is best. Always nice to have strong clearly convincing outcomes. Those are rare. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 7:47 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] O

Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers

2020-06-09 Thread Josh Luthman
It's way worse now. You'll need to order 4-6 months out. My March order is probably going to ship August from their projections. Hopefully UPS doesn't lose it on the way here like my drops cables... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-06-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
I thought SAS was suppose to stop this from happening? I would assume they are being interfered on just as much as you are? On 5/21/20 8:59 AM, dave wrote: Well SNR goes  to crap on every sub where you and the celco overlap. So none of the spectrum they are on can be used. Which is aproximatel

Re: [AFMUG] CBRS reliable now?

2020-06-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
What happens when the cellco fires up their gear? Do you get asked to move and move gracefully? Or do you have to do some kind of manual intervention? How is the 450i/Medusa through trees? On 5/20/20 10:31 AM, dave wrote: I am fully deployed with about 800 subs and 40 Aps with pmp450/450i/4

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Go back to your parallel universe where people are still rational. You’re confusing me, is this a trick? From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 6:37 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered I'm not really sure what the complaint is. The a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Chuck McCown
They opened things back up. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 8, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Robert wrote: > >  I heard that Utah is at a 21% growth rate right now. 6th of 50.. what > changed? > >> On 6/8/20 8:30 PM, justsumname . wrote: >> I thought if it's not peer-reviewed, it's not real science. >>

Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers

2020-06-09 Thread Ryan Hill
Speaking of Calix 844e’s… How’s your current inventory levels, and ETAs on shipments? We’ve had a horrible time getting hardware since November 2019 Ryan > On Jun 9, 2020, at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I don't know that Calix offers anything you can't get somewhere else, even > reason

Re: [AFMUG] fiber customer routers

2020-06-09 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't know that Calix offers anything you can't get somewhere else, even reasonably packaged. Well, they certainly offer the ability to lock you in to their bubble and nickel and dime you for it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers

Re: [AFMUG] FS: 🔥 New Cambium 450 CBRS APs

2020-06-09 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Medusa and 450i From: AF on behalf of "tpa...@ecpi.com" Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2020 at 8:05 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FS: 🔥 New Cambium 450 CBRS APs So what are you going to use instead? Medusa, LTE? Tushar On J

Re: [AFMUG] FS: 🔥 New Cambium 450 CBRS APs

2020-06-09 Thread Tushar Patel
So what are you going to use instead? Medusa, LTE? Tushar > On Jun 9, 2020, at 6:39 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > >  > Cambium Networks PMP450 CBRS 3.5 GHz Access Point C036045A001A > New, Surplus(10 Available) $999.00 each /// MSRP=$2895 > > > > Gino Villarini > Founder/President > @g

[AFMUG] FS: 🔥 New Cambium 450 CBRS APs

2020-06-09 Thread Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: we were snookered

2020-06-09 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm not really sure what the complaint is.  The authors said, "we can't double check this data, therefore it isn't good enough." They held their own study to a high standard, it failed, and they retracted it.  It would have been better if they hadn't published it, but nevertheless they were wil

[AFMUG] Looking for Technical Writer/Documentation Person

2020-06-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'm hiring some sort of person to write documentation, spec sheets, etc. for PacketFlux. I've been down this path a few times over the years with no luck, having hired various people over the years with never getting any actual usable work product. It's time to try again. I know a few people fro