Re: [AFMUG] OT: Watch out for old TVs!

2020-09-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Very good point. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2020, at 7:33 PM, TJ Trout wrote: > >  > Or back feeding interference to the cmts > >> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 6:18 PM Chuck McCown wrote: >> Every receiver has a local oscillator. They use UHF there. Maybe a front >> end amp was unstable. A

Re: [AFMUG] OT - cone of silence

2020-09-24 Thread Jaime Solorza
I want one but with lights On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 9:59 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Chuck, I know you like the cone of silence from Get Smart. I keep getting > ads for this thing: > > https://microclimate.com/ > > > > I can’t decide if it’s goofy or creepy or what. Maybe it’s a joke but > looks like

[AFMUG] OT - cone of silence

2020-09-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Chuck, I know you like the cone of silence from Get Smart. I keep getting ads for this thing: https://microclimate.com/ I can't decide if it's goofy or creepy or what. Maybe it's a joke but looks like it's a real thing. Hi there, I'm in my own personal bubble, literally. -- AF mailing lis

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Watch out for old TVs!

2020-09-24 Thread Steve Jones
It was cable according to the article I read. They said they replaced all the cable infrastructure and it was still present so they took the "extreme" measure of bringing in a spectrum analyzer. Which seems odd and backward to me. On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 9:14 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Got the impres

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Watch out for old TVs!

2020-09-24 Thread Bill Prince
Got the impression that it was cable internet. bp On 9/24/2020 6:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Every receiver has a local oscillator. They use UHF there. Maybe a front end amp was unstable. And the house was next to a major cluster of APs. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2020, at 6:38 PM, K

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Watch out for old TVs!

2020-09-24 Thread TJ Trout
Or back feeding interference to the cmts On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 6:18 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Every receiver has a local oscillator. They use UHF there. Maybe a front > end amp was unstable. And the house was next to a major cluster of APs. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 24, 2020, at 6:38

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Watch out for old TVs!

2020-09-24 Thread Chuck McCown
Every receiver has a local oscillator. They use UHF there. Maybe a front end amp was unstable. And the house was next to a major cluster of APs. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 24, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > Smells like BS, and they don't give enough details to convince me otherwi

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Watch out for old TVs!

2020-09-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
Smells like BS, and they don't give enough details to convince me otherwise. What type of Internet infrastructure do they have, and how was an old TV disrupting it? Didn't Chuck have a story about every time the phone rang the dog would howl or something like that? -Original Message- From

[AFMUG] OT: Watch out for old TVs!

2020-09-24 Thread Bill Prince
Did you read the story about the village in Wales: https://www.cnet.com/news/an-old-tv-crashed-entire-towns-broadband-every-day-for-more-than-a-year/ -- bp -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP and Nested DHCP Option82

2020-09-24 Thread Nate Burke
So I changed all the settings I could think of, but it was still blocking the customer from 3-16 hours after rebooting the AP. Strange thing is that the customer Router would continue to ARP just fine, but would not pass any traffic. I changed the 2.4ghz 1k radios out to 5ghz F300-16 radios, a

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Josh Baird
Good call out, thanks! On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 3:30 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Ok yeah it's worse than I remembered > > 3.5ghz 450m is 140W typical, 150W max. > > Max input per power port on rack injector is 10 amp. > > You should definitely not put more than 3 on one power input. To use the > ra

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Adam Moffett
Ok yeah it's worse than I remembered 3.5ghz 450m is 140W typical, 150W max. Max input per power port on rack injector is 10 amp. You should definitely not put more than 3 on one power input.  To use the rack injector for that you might have to pull two outputs from the ICT into two different

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Adam Moffett
That's exactly what I was wondering about regarding max amperage. On 9/24/2020 3:18 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: You might check with Forest on the max output power of the PIDU. We tried (4) CBRS 450M's on one card which caused weird power reboots on random AP's. We were using a 600W power supply

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Eric Muehleisen
You might check with Forest on the max output power of the PIDU. We tried (4) CBRS 450M's on one card which caused weird power reboots on random AP's. We were using a 600W power supply, which might have been the issue as well. 3 AP's have been working just fine however. On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Adam Moffett
On this original question, the only thing I'd watch out for is the total load on the Rack Injector.  There's a max current on each input (10A? 12A? I don't remember, but it's on the web page).  Each 450m is I think 100W typical and 125W max.  If you're on battery then your voltage could drop do

Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

2020-09-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
I guess you could also do power shedding during a power failure. Like you’ve got 3 power sucking sectors and the site is running on batteries and the time to get there with a generator exceeds the battery runtime, so you decide to power down the APs to at least keep the backhauls running so the

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Adam Moffett
Sure, if you're having to power cycle APs then you have a problem you should fix, but I'd still prefer to know that I could if I had to.  It's also useful during a migration to be able to power up the new AP and power down the old one.  And if your vendor introduces a bug requiring a power cycl

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think he said 3 GHz 450m which requires direct DC power because it uses like 1.21 gigawatts. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 1:28 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier? If you need s

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Josh Luthman
If you need sync...power it over that too. In my case, we don't need sync on our deployment so we went fiber + DC. No sync - we've got a bomb shelter building for a good bit of shielding. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Ken Hohhof
I can’t remember last time I power cycled an AP, it’s been years. Only time would be if I did something stupid and needed to do the quick power cycle to get into the Recovery Console. Usually that wouldn’t be an AP that’s in service, but one from the used pile that I’m planning to redeploy b

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Josh Baird
Yep - standardization is a good thing! On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:30 PM Sean Heskett wrote: > Either way is fine, we’ve chosen to do it in the PacketFlux RI so that > everything is standardized across our towers. Support staff and field > techs know that ALL APs get power from a rack injector...

Re: [AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Sean Heskett
Either way is fine, we’ve chosen to do it in the PacketFlux RI so that everything is standardized across our towers. Support staff and field techs know that ALL APs get power from a rack injector...so when problems happen look there and try a reboot. -Sean On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:18 AM Josh B

[AFMUG] Power for 450M via PacketFlux or Rectifier?

2020-09-24 Thread Josh Baird
We're deploying our first 450M gear soon. This site will have a +48VDC ICT rectifier solution and DC distribution (managed). We're going to be using a PacketFlux RackInkjector w/ Cambium Sync modules to provide sync to the 450M 3ghz radios. We could load a PDU module in the RackInjector as well

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 2k to 3k Comparison

2020-09-24 Thread Nate Burke
The 2k AP was regularly going to 100% frame utilization. The 3K AP is running about 50% and spiking to 80%. (via 5 minute reads with MRTG) On 9/24/2020 9:29 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: Cambium has been saying for a while that you should see at least a 10% improvement in throughput and lower laten

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 2k to 3k Comparison

2020-09-24 Thread Darin Steffl
Cambium has been saying for a while that you should see at least a 10% improvement in throughput and lower latency going from 1/2k to 3k gear even with Force 200 and elevate clients. On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 9:27 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > Based on my swap, that's simply wrong. > > I think we can a

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 2k to 3k Comparison

2020-09-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Based on my swap, that's simply wrong. I think we can all agree to expect much more improvement with 300 SM, though. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:22 AM David Sovereen via AF wrote: > Was I mis

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 2k to 3k Comparison

2020-09-24 Thread Josh Baird
Yes, it's wrong. We have seen slight improvements on both sector capacity/throughput and frame utilization. Cambium has always said you would see a slight improvement. On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 10:22 AM David Sovereen via AF wrote: > Was I misinformed? I was told that replacing ePMP 2000 APs wi

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 2k to 3k Comparison

2020-09-24 Thread David Sovereen via AF
Was I misinformed? I was told that replacing ePMP 2000 APs with ePMP 3000 APs would have zero effect on capacity without changing out SMs to ePMP 3000 series SMs. Is that wrong? Dave > On Sep 24, 2020, at 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > We did a 1000 to 3000L swap on Tuesday morning. Not

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP 2k to 3k Comparison

2020-09-24 Thread Josh Luthman
We did a 1000 to 3000L swap on Tuesday morning. Noticing the same thing - more capacity and much less frame utilization. I think there were 36 SM - mostly force 200 but some elevate/300-25. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 O