Absolutely! Glad to hear others are doing this - it’s what Amplex has been
doing for years.
I get really tired of the ‘experts’ telling everyone there is only one ‘right’
way to build a network, yet have never heard of this.
Mark
> On Jun 18, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
>
>
We use the same BNG for all our residential subs in a market. GPON, Active
Ethernet, and Fixed Wireless. Some of the fixed wireless stuff requires a
hack to run the CVLANS through another box to add the second tag but that's
cheap and easy enough. A Netonix 6 mini hanging off a switch can do it
Thanks. This seems fairly common on GPON
networks as well so you could use this feature
for both GPON and Fixed Wireless on the same BGN.
At 01:59 PM 6/18/2021, you wrote:
Juniper. We have a MX5 in production and a
MX204 I'm setting up right now to replace it. Â
Subscriber management
Juniper. We have a MX5 in production and a MX204 I'm setting up right now
to replace it.
Subscriber management is additional licensing. Not sure if just dynamic
interface creation requires subscriber management licensing. I just looked
on our production BNG and it isn't using subscriber-vlan.
We are doing something similar and using Cisco’s BNG on an ASR9k. We dont do
dedicated CVLAN per sub on an AP, but we do a dedicated SVLAN per AP, and
client isolate on the AP. That SVLAN is MPLS’d back to our BNG routers at the
datacenters, so we’re in effect bridging that SVLAN across a
At 12:35 PM 6/18/2021, Carl Peterson wrote:
We've gone full circle - Flat to fully routed to
MPLS/VPLS over a routed network back to
flat. You hit a scaling issue with routed
networks as you hit 10G and above, especially if
you aren't using Mikrotik or other low cost
routing. Real
Then just VLAN every AP back to your router. This presumes your switches can
handle VLANS. You cannot have APs able to talk to each other through switches
at towers or this will happen again.
From: Jan-GAMs
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:31 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
Yes, learned all the same lessons. 18 years ago.
Managed switches or routers at every tower. Every single AP on its own VLAN or
router port.
From: Sam Lambie
Sent: Friday, June 18, 2021 9:16 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] strange outage
We had a flat network
We've gone full circle - Flat to fully routed to MPLS/VPLS over a routed
network back to flat. You hit a scaling issue with routed networks as you
hit 10G and above, especially if you aren't using Mikrotik or other low
cost routing. Real carrier grade switching is a lot lower cost, lower
power,
No this is simply not true.
or the only nugget of truth is that it might take a beefier router
to match the performance of a switch.
On 6/18/2021 11:31 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
Well we could replace the switches with routers but won't this reduce
the total traffic available? And once the
I have never heard of routers eating bandwidth between hops. Unless you are
thinking of mesh topology. Eww. Bridged transparent Point to point links
between towers, routers at each site. No bandwidth lost.
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 9:33 AM Jan-GAMs wrote:
> We're under 100 subs, and static
We're under 100 subs, and static routing has been easy to monitor via
the UISP. Every CPE is displayed and easy to login to. Any units on
DHCP is a total PITA and I'd prefer to shoot the guy that started doing
that as we can't find the user nor login to fix them, it's a truck roll
which
We had a flat network for a few years with the same setup as you in terms
of network. Once the network grew to a certain size, broadcast storms would
roll through often and it was almost impossible to track down the culprit
without unplugging the gear and waiting for it to die down. We then
I think this is beyond our present capability. We have an edgerouter X
where the network meets the internet and that's it. There is only one
OSPF, it's just one path with no other routes. We have a switch at every
tower that powers the APs and clients(CPE) that connect to APs. We use
UISP to
This is plausible. I think ubnt sends broadcast traffic at MCS0. Not
sure how it handles multicast. If everyone was in the same layer2
domain a heavy broadcast traffic could affect the whole system. Maybe
the customer moving 6-10mbps was malfunctioning and broadcasting something.
In
Sounds like a broadcast storm to me. What is the topology of your
network? Routers at each tower, VLANs, etc.?
Are you filtering multicast and broadcast traffic at the CPE/customer
premises?
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