Re: [AFMUG] list dead?

2021-07-23 Thread Steve Jones
I tried that and got arrested for desecration of a corpse On Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 5:27 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Necromancy required to resurrect? > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Steve Jones
161 iq here, I ain't got stuck with that devil juice. Them doctorin folk ain't turnin my bone box into no chemistry set. On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 12:26 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > That assumes IQ==Comon sense. Lots of smart people can be really dumb > when it comes to sports, religon, and politics.

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Robert
David,     Do you have any research of the percentage of people who "have a valid medical reason" for not taking the vaccine?   I don't imagine it's anywhere near the 45% of the US population the is refusing that are not below the current age limit.   I would WAG that it's probably a lot less

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Robert
A brake related topic that has some level of value here is people who tow cars with their RV's.   Some follow the law and get a braking system for the towed vehicle.   It's kinda common sense ( besides the law in all states ).   Some say "Hey my RV stops fine without it"  Until it doesn't or

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Robert
Because the higher/longer the reproduction virus load the more likely the creation of a worse variant.   It's NOT about YOU.  IF you don't want to take the vaccine, then you can stay home.   Not those that are forming the barrier to transmission. On 7/23/21 2:03 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Sorry. When the list is down for a few days I am jonesin’ for a fix. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2021, at 7:17 PM, Robert wrote: > >  I have thought the same thing.. You could even consider the Dems from Tx > as an anti-vax attack squad... > > > > But Kids... > > > > > On

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Robert
I just heard that in my neighborhood two grandparents, vaxed, had been out and about, and got cases.   They then took care of their grandkids for the weekend.   Yep, grandkids came down with it.   The grandparents have very mild cases, the grandkids are still unknown at this time.   These are

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Robert
I have thought the same thing..  You could even consider the Dems from Tx as an anti-vax attack squad... But Kids... On 7/23/21 10:55 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: I've wondered if it might be a good thing for the liberal side to start saying "take the vaccine or not, we

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
>From liberal hippie me... On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 5:38 PM Bill Prince wrote: > They don't even need to sneeze. They shed virus just by breathing. And the > point that many (most) anti-vaxxers seem to gloss over is that it's not > just about them, it's about all the innocant people they can give

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Bill Prince
They don't even need to sneeze. They shed virus just by breathing. And the point that many (most) anti-vaxxers seem to gloss over is that it's not just about them, it's about all the innocant people they can give it to while they're infectious. This is an off topic

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
AIDS was / Is 100% avoidable. COVID is like someone with AIDS spraying you down with their precious bodily fluids by sneezing. People have been prosecuted for infecting others with AIDS. Why not COVID? If you don’t want the vax, fine but you need a full body condom if you come within 100’

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Daniel White
Those are memories I'd rather forget.  We did have a choice on the anthrax vaccine, and had to sign a waiver to take it.  I figured what the hell... the Marines owned my body at that point anyways. photograph Daniel White Co-Founder phone: +1 (702) 470-2770 direct:+1 (702) 470-2766 >

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Bingo Forest...you can't fix stupid. My flame retardant suit will protect me. Lost two cousins and four friends to it so far... So fuck Covid-19 On Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 11:56 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > I've wondered if it might be a good thing for the

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread David Coudron
There are valid reasons for deciding to take this vaccine, the shingles vaccine, the flu vaccine, or a myriad of other medications. Each decision should be based on risk/reward of that drug and the medical condition being treated. To think that you know everyone’s medical situation better

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Carl Peterson
No vaccination is 100% effective. From a public policy perspective, you need to pull on the levers that work in order to get R0 to be less than 1. We know that a good percentage of people will follow a mask mandate. Even if most of that group is vaccinated that lever will still do something

[AFMUG] Fwd: OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Chuck McCown > Date: July 23, 2021 at 2:40:46 PM MDT > To: David Coudron > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political > > You really think the FDA approval has that much value? When time is of the > essence and we discover cutting your

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
Why does someone who has made an informed choice not to get vaxxed by a NON-FDA approved drug have not sit out in timeout? This is a free society, if you are so scared, you stay home. I will take my chances. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
We can do that if we have to. Thanks anti vaxxers. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2021, at 2:48 PM, Dennis Burgess wrote: > >  > St. Louis just went into another mask mandate even if you HAVE been > vaccinated! Lol. > > > > Dennis Burgess > > Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
St. Louis just went into another mask mandate even if you HAVE been vaccinated! Lol. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website:

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Jay Weekley
I would like to add "so we can visit our parents in nursing homes" to your list. My dad was in a nursing home for the last year and half of his life with a form of dementia and my mom and I visited him almost every day. We both agreed that it was good he died before covid because he probably

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Jan-GAMs
There is no having a sane discussion on this topic.  This is more like a whining child having an open temper-tantrum in public. Un-vaxxed persons are a health hazard and attempting to explain this to a child is a bit difficult.  Those who don't have a vaccine should not be allowed in public. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Jan-GAMs
Back in "boot" we lined up by the hundreds and got shots till our arms bled.  I don't recall being asked to volunteer or choose which shot I was going to get.  They did have the keys to the brig, I didn't. On 7/23/21 1:08 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: She was imprisoned multiple times.  She

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
"It should be a discussion based upon the scientific merits of the situation." Unfortunately, even scientists are being censored on social media. Real ones with real things to say, not Cletus and his Bill Gates 5G malarkey. A podcast episode with one of the inventors of the mRNA process was

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Jan-GAMs
Typhoid carriers are asymptomatic.  Mary was a Typhoid carrier. Not much different than many Covid carriers, asymptomatic!  As I've been saying for over a year, quarantine the assholes until after the disease is gone!  If the carriers cased the death of someone they should get jail. On

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
This is not like choosing to not wear a seatbelt. This is like choosing to drive without brakes. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2021, at 2:11 PM, David Coudron > wrote: > >  > I know, we can all make our own decisions. However, I don’t believe I have > stated anything that varies from

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Another reason why vaccinated people would "selfishly" care about the unvaccinated is that the unvaccinated people are likely where the variants are coming from. Eventually, a variant will come out that isn't covered by the vaccine. At that point, all of the vaccinated people are at risk again.

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Jan-GAMs
Ditto Adam On 7/23/21 12:55 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'm not calling anybody stupid, but I don't agree with most of your list. On 7/23/2021 3:37 PM, David Coudron wrote: Here is what I find particularly challenging about suggesting that folks who have chosen not to take the vaccine are not

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread David Coudron
I know, we can all make our own decisions. However, I don’t believe I have stated anything that varies from the facts. I can send you the Moderna sheet I received with my vaccine if you want to see that. Your points about FDA approval are probably accurate, however, why is not OK to say

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Tyson Burris
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Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
She was imprisoned multiple times. She lost her liberty, certainly much more of a heavy hand than being required to get vaccinated. The government has a duty of care as part of being the soverign. They must act to protect the public. My grandfather was a cop whose duty included forcibly

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck Macenski
*get On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 3:00 PM Chuck Macenski wrote: > Q: Why are people that are vaccinated so obsessed with people that aren’t > vaccinated? > > A: A few reasons: > >- We are tired of wearing masks >- We don't want to get sick (nothing is 100%) >- We want open ICU beds in

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck Macenski
Q: Why are people that are vaccinated so obsessed with people that aren’t vaccinated? A: A few reasons: - We are tired of wearing masks - We don't want to get sick (nothing is 100%) - We want open ICU beds in case we need them If you find someone who has had a conversation with their

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread David Coudron
Unfortunately I don’t know the particulars of typhoid Mary’s situation. I understand a bit of the folk lore, but don’t only have an idea of what that story is about. My basic understanding was that an individual who knew they were sick was intentionally infecting others. Certainly a

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Adam Moffett
I'm not calling anybody stupid, but I don't agree with most of your list. On 7/23/2021 3:37 PM, David Coudron wrote: Here is what I find particularly challenging about suggesting that folks who have chosen not to take the vaccine are not that smart. 1. Folks who do that never talk about

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
One question: Should Typhoid Mary have been allowed to just roam free? Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2021, at 1:37 PM, David Coudron > wrote: > >  > Here is what I find particularly challenging about suggesting that folks who > have chosen not to take the vaccine are not that smart. >

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread David Coudron
Here is what I find particularly challenging about suggesting that folks who have chosen not to take the vaccine are not that smart. 1. Folks who do that never talk about that fact that this is not an FDA approved medicine/vaccine. I took the Moderna vaccine, the paperwork clearly stated

Re: [AFMUG] Billing for underground damage

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I bill for time and materials as if I was making the repair for someone else. That means marked up materials and profit on top of loaded payroll expense. You can bill for whatever you want but if you have to litigate it best to just try to get yourself whole. If you have proof it was painted

[AFMUG] Billing for underground damage

2021-07-23 Thread Nate Burke
Not sure if this varies state to state, how do you bill for damage to underground facilities? A large contractor hit one of our marked underground lines twice in 4 days while putting in a new conduit. Do you send them a simple invoice with a dollar amount, a fully itemized time/materials

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
They could sponsor concerts and barbecues that only admit unvaccinated... How can I get that fake news to be picked up by the junk news feeds? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, July 23, 2021 11:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat

Re: [AFMUG] DFS in DC

2021-07-23 Thread Mike Hammett
TDWR is also likely the least of one's concerns in DFS in terms of likelyhood to be impacted by. Military use is the primary use of the band. There are also dozens if not hundreds of private weather radars across the country using the 5 GHz band. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I've wondered if it might be a good thing for the liberal side to start saying "take the vaccine or not, we don't care - in fact we would prefer that you don't so there are less of you to vote next go around". On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 11:26 AM Carl Peterson wrote: > That assumes IQ==Comon

[AFMUG] DFS in DC

2021-07-23 Thread Zach Underwood
After getting more than a few hits at our DC MDU sites I looked up the TDWR and it looks like there are 4 TDWR within range of DC. I have since disabled DFS channels at our DC sites but wow. Andrews Air Force Base (ADW), MD Baltimore/Wash (BWI), MD Dulles (IAD), VA Washington National (DCA),

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Jay Weekley
I have a relative that gave Covid to two of her children, mom and me. Mom was in the hospital for four days but made a full recovery. The relative is reluctant to get the vaccine because she had varicose vein surgery years ago and fears blood clots. I've reminded the relative that she can

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I have a sister that is 79, never a mask, never a vaccine. Covid is a hoax. So are electric cars. Her own kid is deaf because she was exposed to German Measles when pregnant. One would think she would be all in on vaccinations. Among my younger employees it is difficult. One of them was

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Carl Peterson
That assumes IQ==Comon sense. Lots of smart people can be really dumb when it comes to sports, religon, and politics. It seems a subset of people have convinced themselves that vaccines, and specifically the covid vaccines, are somehow a liberal thing. On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 11:28 AM Chuck

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2021-07-23 Thread Robert
The largest, so far, Darwin Award is about to pop on the website... On 7/23/21 10:05 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Real life Darwin heory. bp On 7/23/2021 9:27 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: If the covid variants kill only unvaccinated, then global IQ average will increase, right?  Always good

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Robert
Anyone on that side of the fence at this point is drowning in the gene pool... On 7/23/21 10:06 AM, Bill Prince wrote: I have relatives who are telling me they don't think the mRNA vaccines have been tested enough. How many hundreds of millions does that take? bp On 7/23/2021 9:27 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Bill Prince
I have relatives who are telling me they don't think the mRNA vaccines have been tested enough. How many hundreds of millions does that take? bp On 7/23/2021 9:27 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: If the covid

Re: [AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Bill Prince
Real life Darwin heory. bp On 7/23/2021 9:27 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: If the covid variants kill only unvaccinated, then global IQ average will increase, right?  Always good when your team

[AFMUG] OT somewhat political

2021-07-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
If the covid variants kill only unvaccinated, then global IQ average will increase, right? Always good when your team wins. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com