You can also do BiDi CWDM/DWDM if you have the optical budget. This way your
two strands become two independent loops. Of note is that you can also run both
CWDM and DWDM concurrently.
Jared
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2024
> From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF"
> To: "'AnimalFarm
Revenue bonds aren't paid out of the general fund.
Jared
> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2024
> From: "Bill Prince"
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Govt
> funded fiber - Utopia
>
> Bonds are paid (usually, unless specified
I fail to see how revenue bonds divert essential funding away from services
that really matter to the public.
Jared
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2024
From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Re: ***SPAM*** Govt funded fiber - Utopia
You'll probably have to ask for quotes to get good pricing from you local
supplier, but Edgeoptic lists 100G 80km optics for $1550.
- Jared
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024
From: "Zach Underwood"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] optical TX power levels
Jared,
On Friday, January 26, 2024 Chuck McCown wrote:
> Could he bond dwm multiples at lower rates?
Yes. Needs a muxponder or do a breakout at both ends to do it transparently.
Just bonding the links is obviously also an option.
On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 Zach Underwood wrote:
> My sample size is
Since the datasheets on these things are terrible, can you tell me how many routes each box can take?
Jared
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 11:35 PM
From: "Jesse DuPont"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper
Another option. Check out OcNOS
What are you supposed to do with this when it only lasts 10 start/stop cycles?
Even 300 cycles isn't that much.
- Jared
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 at 5:17 PM
> From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com
> Subject: [AFMUG]
Why is Karl Marx on your list? All he did is write books.
- Jared
From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
To: "Darin Steffl" , "AnimalFarm Microwave Users
Group"
Cc: "Chuck McCown"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] It has begun
Karl Marx
Lenin
Stalin
Putin
Pretty sure those dudes were far worst than Trump
The way I see it, a one time cost of $50 per subscriber isn't that much in the grand scheme of things.
Having one IPv4 per subscriber means no middle boxes and things just work. There's value in that.
I'll happily offer IPv6 to customers if (i) they are willing to pay for it or (ii) the
Chuck, I don't doubt you are doing well.
That being said, don't go breaking lent now :)
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023
From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: "Chuck McCown"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange
Spin your prose all you want, but I have
I didn't say corporations cannot sue. I said corporations have fewer protections than employees.
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023
From: "Chuck McCown"
To: fiber...@mail.com
Cc: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange
Really, corporations cannot sue for
Glassdoor provides reviews of companies, not employees.
Companies have fewer protections than employees in this regard.
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023
From: "Chuck McCown"
To: fiber...@mail.com
Cc: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange
If that was
There's a first time for everything :)
However, what you were proposing was formalizing the process and leaving a paper trail. This would substantially increase the risk of litigation. The abuse aspect was already mentioned multiple times, so not all of it would be unwarranted.
- Jared
The counterexamples were in response to the absolutist statement regardling the lack of value of labor. They were not directly related to market of welders.
Indirectly, however, they relate via supply and demand. All labor has a market clearing price. If the market price of unskilled labor is
Not discussing compensation early in the process is just wasting everybody's time.
I never work with clients I do not already know that they have the means and the will to pay me going rates.
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023
From: dmmoff...@gmail.com
To: "'AnimalFarm
Litigation, or risk thereof, is the reason why a lot of corporations will only confirm that a person was previously employed there and the dates of employment.
I believe Colorado was the first state to require posting salary ranges.
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023
This is provably incorrect. Counterexample: slavery and forced labor.
$15/h may be an awesome deal or it may not, if working at McDonald's pays $18/h.
Market wages do not really care about what's "fair" or "reasonable".
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 6:09 PM
This seems like such a no-brainer on paper, but there is an actual value to cultural context.
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 6:00 PM
From: "Paul Dowling via AF"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Cc: "Paul Dowling"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FB Exchange
If you can
You seem surprised that you were turned down when you didn't communicate clearly up front that the potential employee was being considered for a $25/hr role?
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023
From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
A market wage does not imply skill or experience. Even unskilled workers have a market wage.
An underpaid job does not equate investement in yourself.
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2023
From: dmmoff...@gmail.com
To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'"
Subject: Re:
... or each company could post salary ranges, as already required in some states. This obliviates the need for a middle man.
As to a permanent record, that would probably be illegal in multiple states and an excellent way of being on the receiving end of litigation. And not without cause,
I don't quite get the logic of this.
Why would you work for less than market wages?
How is working for less than market wages an investment in yourself?
- Jared
On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 Chuck Macenski wrote:
One way to say it: "The youth of today cannot live on $15 an
Looks like long-haul 100G is on the menu, boys!
To date transporting 100G over longer distances has required separate and
expensive optical transport systems or platforms with CFP interfaces.
That's about to change as regular QSFP28 form factor optics for long-haul 100G
are coming to market.
> I like the flat drop dielectric cables from Amphenol Custom Cable. They have
> options. https://buy.customcable.com/#a_fiber
Thanks, that looks interesting. Couldn't find a direct bury rated cable in
their online builder, so I'll have to contact them about that.
- Jared
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> I assume you are aware that fs.com can make these and ship from china?
Yeah, but on the other hand FS removed all their direct bury cables from
their website some time ago. I guess they still take custom orders occasionally.
Not quite sure how reliable shipping from China is right now.
-
> i think aviat sold some with 12
Any pointers on where such can be found?
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> SC connectors on both ends?
Yeah.
> https://www.discount-low-voltage.com/Cable/Singlemode-Outdoor-Armored-Preterminated-Fiber/PT12SCSM4-Preterminated-Fiber
>
I had a look at Discount Low Voltage, but the line items keep adding up,
especially for longer lengths. I was hoping to find a
Hi all!
Can anybody recommend a supplier of pre-terminated direct burial fiber cables?
I need a few lengths with 12 fibers and SC connectors.
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More snake oil or anything of substance?
The usual claims of gigabit, fiber replacement and non-line of sight in 3 or 5
GHz.
https://www.taranawireless.com/
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You can get a Calix 10G OLT for $1500?
The most impressive thing is that you can run a complete OLT using less than 15W passively *and* you are good to go down to -40F.
Plenty of use cases there.
- Jared
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021
From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
To:
How hard are Tibit pushing the vendor lock-in thing? It appears that they don't manufacture ONUs.
$120 for an 10G ONU isn't bad and I saw the ONU vendor also had an SFP+ ONU. It would be truly lovely if we could get some actual competition on the ONU side going.
- Jared
Sent:
Well, I guess that is one way of solving the problem :)
- Jared
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021
From: "Jan-GAMs"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] amazon problem
The board of directors would rather shut us down than spend one more dime
On 9/16/21 10:17, Steve Jones
Lightning is always fun. I once had a strike burn off all the plastic on the
cable so that only the glass remained. It still worked, until it was touched.
- Jared
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021
> From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject:
Sure, but the alternative being discussed here is running some kind of duct taped together GPON/RF Frankenstein (assuming something like that was even technically possible, which it isn't). Arguing that a shelf is too expensive and an Active Ethernet deployment is too much of a headache makes no
If cost is an issue, why not just put an Ethernet switch on the far side of the RF link? It's just 18 homes so any 24 port SFP switch would do.
- Jared
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021
From: "Josh Luthman"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending Calix
GPON ONU optics use burst mode for data transmission. GPON OLTs use burst mode clock and data recovery to recover the signal. Just wondering how you would go about transmitting that over Ethernet?
- Jared
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021
From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
To:
You can order SOC holders for about $25 for the AI splicers.
- Jared
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2021 at 7:15 PM
From: "Trey Scarborough"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] affordable splicer
They AI-9s are pretty good only issue I have with them is the having to have the
You'd think Solarwinds would be permanently off the table after what happened
last time...
If you just want bytes per ASN then pmacct works.
- Jared
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2021
From: "Erich Kaiser"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflow tools
Solarwinds
EDFAs only work in the 1500-1600 nm range. If the optics are 1310 nm you need a
SOA.
However, it's the wrong tool for the job. A cheaper and better solution is to
use the correct optics.
- Jared
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2021
> From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users
I've used a Signal Fire splicer, one of the series 7 models. It works, but the
app is a bit annoying. Haven't tried any other Chinese vendors. Came in a case
with tools.
It's fine for burning the occasional single.
http://www.signalfiresplicer.com/
- Jared
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021
If you are only doing short haul stuff or drops then you can just get one of
those el cheapo Chinese splicers with all included for less than a grand.
There really isn't a reason to not have a splicer in your tools set if you work
with fiber to any extent. You can still farm out the work or use
If you are fine with second hand equipment, take a look at the Arista 7060
series. $1-2k on eBay and comes with 6 to 64 100G ports and/or 2 to 258 10G
ports depending on the model.
- Jared
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2021
From: "Tushar Patel"
To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'"
Well, yes, but that's both a pro and a con :)
Here's a writeup on using DANOS to push 10+ Gbps using CGNAT on a Dell
PowerEdge R230 - Quad Core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1240 v6 @ 3.70GHz:
https://wiki.brasilpeeringforum.org/w/CGNAT_Bulk_Port_Allocation_com_DPDK
I guess it depends on what kind of NAT you want to do.
Here's an overview of CGNAT implementation options:
https://www.juniper.net/documentation/en_US/junos-space-apps/edge-services-director1.0/topics/topic-map/nat-junos-cgn-implementations.html
And which chassies take which cards:
If your needs are more modest, I guess you could get away with an MS-MIC-16G
card in a low end MX router. The MIC can be had for less than four grand, as
can an older MX router. That should be good for CGNAT needs under 9 Gbps.
- Jared
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021 at 1:41 PM
From: "Adam
Is anybody looking at software based options like DPDK for a lower cost
solution?
DANOS (free), TNSR (free trial, commercial $500/year), 6wind (~3k$ for 10G
license + 15% yearly),...
- Jared
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2021
From: "Adam Moffett"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
The Starlink beta is now open to all on a first-come, first-served basis.
Availability limited based on user density. Residental use only, no moving, no
sharing, no reselling, but no caps so far and IPv6.
Same $99/month plus ~$600 up front.
I'll be interesting to see how it performs as birds
> The 326 is a solid switch.
Any issues when mixing 1G and 10G optics? I recall reading about buffering
issues, slow speeds and packet loss.
- Jared
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What do you guys use for 10G FTTH access switches?
Does anybody use the Mikrotik CRS326-24S+2Q+RM?
I'm a bit hesitant to use Mikrotik products as of late, with all the problems
they have been having.
Recommendations, anti-recommendations, experiences good or bad welcome.
- Jared
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> The CRS3XX switches have been pretty stable for us (*knocks on wood*)
I can second this. I have a CRS305 with 68 weeks of uptime.
On the other hand, has anybody else noticed what a dumpster fire the CSS610
is?
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=17=167891
I was looking into
> NAT are something so damn simple I can't imagine why you'd do Juniper for
> those. Be way cheaper to run a Pi.
You are a braver man than I.
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I find it highly amusing that this reply assumes the customer is the abusive
partner, not the vendor.
Jared
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020
> From: "Trey Scarborough"
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik 1072 Frustrations
>
> I really haven't seen these issues. I would
Reading this thread is like listening to somebody in an abusive relationship:
"... if I treat him right, he won't hit me. The problem is just that I can't
figure out that sets him off..."
You know what the solution to that problem is.
Jared
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2020
From: "Colin
Well, fuck me.
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/12/spacex-gets-886-million-from-fcc-to-subsidize-starlink-in-35-states/
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Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2020
From: "Chuck McCown via AF"
> Not sure why UPCs are used at all since APC seems to be technologically
> superior.
Slight cost differential. APC used to have a slightly higher insertion loss.
Preference to have same connectors everywhere.
Jared
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Perhaps a topic for a future episode of The Brothers WISP?
Jared
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Global Peer Exchange
Unfortunately, I can't contribute a whole lot as Justin has been working on that.
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020
From: "Steve Jones"
> ... before we have herd vaccination in 2.5 months.
Cue the anti-vaxxers. Time to break out the popcorn?
Jared
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Not to disagree with the recommendation to join an IX or two or in anyway
undermine the point, but I can see why some go for larger pipes rather than
IXes. It's simpler and may be, if not cheaper, about the same cost. In any case
you are going to need the big pipes, in case the IX goes tits up.
Announcing more specifics than the supernet grows the routing table. Large
routing table bad.
Jared
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020
From: "Ken Hohhof"
To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multiple carriers
Maybe you need to elaborate.
From: AF On Behalf
As other have written, using communities is the way to go. Here's a list of
upstream communities, you can often find more by searching for $UPSTREAM BGP
community:
https://onestep.net/communities/
Stay away from Hurricane Electric, they have no communities at all. Better to
peer directly with
It ain't over until the fat man tweets.
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..
Technically it is premature. Lots of steps and challenges left to go through.
Lots of certifications, then electoral college
Have you done a packet capture?
Jared
From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VPN Issue
James,
Yup
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Myakka Technologies, Inc.
I suppose having the customer complain to their VPN provider is totally out of
the question?
Jared
> From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Subject: [AFMUG] VPN Issue
>
> I have a customer that calls on a regular basis about her VPN being
>
I have this vague recollection that we currently can't even track all the space
junk. There was some lower limit, in the order of inches(?), below which there
isn't enough of a radar(?) return.
All I want to know, how long until Kessler syndrome? :)
Jared
From: "Cameron Crum"
To:
Just a heads up, that Youtube video is pure third party speculation and part of
that speculation is already known to be false.
Jared
From: "TJ Trout"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
I don't know about *anybody* who has 40 ms in-home latency. Normal in-home
latency is measured in milliseconds. The WAN latency absolutely dwarfs that.
Starlink's latency is an order of magnitude larger than in-home latency.
Obviously this is a matter of interest when evaluating the big
The Starlink app measures latency to what I believe is either the first hop or
the closest ground station.
Jared
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Also, speedtests are introducing additional
The average consumer will no doubt mess up a speedtest. However, every consumer
will not mess it up in exactly the same way.
With the number of reports available, I believe we have a statistically valid
lower bound on latency over Starlink.
The reports also have in common that the variability
Are you claiming the speed of light in vacuum is fake news now?
Jared
> From: "Bill Prince"
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> We won't have "facts" for at least a year. In the mean time everyone is
> blowing smoke.
>
>
> bp
>
>
>
1/3/15 ms. How is that relevant?
Jared
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2020 at 11:20 AM
> From: "Ken Hohhof"
> To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> And what is the min/avg/max latency over typical home WiFi from
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
> What I'm saying is if you can average 20ms and 1 out of 100 pings spikes
> higher, it will not make a huge difference in performance.
> The law of averages is
Yes, I've seen that email. You'll note that they very carefully avoid
mentioning that the latency targets are best case minimum latencies, not
average latency or even latency upper and lower limits.
Jared
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
The latency figures reported so far have been measured during coverage periods.
As such adding satellites won't help. You'd actually have to improve the
tracking and routing to make a difference.
Jared
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> I call that BS. It means they can route the traffic to the nearest end
> point. I think it will make a massive difference.
You can call BS all day long til you are blue in the face,
From: "Darin Steffl"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
> It will only get better and they're targeting less than 20ms next year.
There have been previous reports of best case latencies of 20 ms before the
public beta.
Space lasers won't affect end user minimum latency.
Jared
From: "Bill Prince"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
Yeah. It's beta. They have no where near their full constellation AND they do
not have their sat-sat interlink working yet.
Yeah, they have an AR app which you can use to check your location for
obstructions.
Jared
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink latency highly variable - up to 120 ms
>
> One report yesterday said if you are near trees you have problems. You need
>
The first beta testers have received their UFOs and performance reports are
emerging. While download speeds are respectable on an empty network, Starlink's
main weakness is its highly variable latency.
Typical beta user minimum latencies are in the mid 30ies with very high
variability. Ping
The URL points to the security researcher's writeup on the attack and the page
contains a link to proof of concept source code on github.
> Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2020
> From: "Robert"
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] NAT Slipstreaming - or how to attack any internal host
>
Synopsis: NAT Slipstreaming allows an attacker to remotely access any TCP/UDP
service bound to a victim machine, bypassing the victim's NAT/firewall
(arbitrary firewall pinhole control), just by the victim visiting a website.
https://samy.pl/slipstream/
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Forgot bandwidth. Starlink is unlikely to scale upwards in terms of bandwidth.
Fiber will always kill Starlink on latency. Even if they get the v2 to use
direct laser comms between satellites, this will only benefit longhaul
latencies and 90+% of all consumer Internet traffic is sourced
I don't think Starlink will go in for predatory pricing. They have more
customers than they can handle and I'd say they have a strong upward pricing
pressure rather than the opposite.
However, things could get interesting if they manage to get their hands on
large amounts of government
SpaceX Starlink public beta begins: It’s $99 a month plus $500 up front
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/10/spacex-starlink-public-beta-begins-its-99-a-month-plus-500-up-front/
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Are you doing 10G or 100G waves?
Are you muxing/demuxing at each site or using OADMs?
If you are only doing 10G waves, then you might want to look at other SFP+
vendors, as FS tops out at 80 km. Others have at least 120 km versions, which
could potentially allow you to do unamplified spans.
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020
From: "Chris Fabien"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths
>
> Jared - " What you can do is transport multiple PONs over a single fiber
>using CWDM wavelengths. However, you need to do an OEO conversion at the
>remote side back to standard
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020
> From: "Adam Moffett"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths
>
> I may have missed something important. A vendor said that different PON
> systems could co-exist, and I took that at face value.
True. Different PON systems can co-exist:
> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020
> From: "Adam Moffett"
> Subject: [AFMUG] GPON - alternate wavelengths
>
> Do any vendors sell PON optics on non-standard wavelengths?
Not as far as I know. I recall an old press release [1], but I don't recall
anything coming of it.
The reason standard
> Right. But why would you use two fibers when BIDIs exist? Is there some
> benefit?
Inventory management and sparing becomes a bit more complicated with BiDi
optics as they come in pairs. There is also some variation in wavelengths used,
further potentially complicating things.
Of
I figure this might be of interest to all of you that are rocking Mikrotik CHR
and running against its limitations.
Netgate's TNSR software router is now free for non-commercial use and $499 per
year for commercial use. No bandwidth limits, go as fast as your hardware can
pass packets.
This is the only third party info I've seen about it online:
https://www.thefoa.org/foanl-5-16.html
(you need to scroll down)
Pros: it has fiber holders
Cons: it's a V groove splicer
It claims to be of Swedish origin, but I have some doubts about that since I've
seen Chinese vendors selling a
I have one of those SignalFire fusion splicers. They are sold all over the
place by different vendors and different brand names.
In short, it works and it does what it says on the tin. It can be a bit fiddly
and annoying at times, but it gets the job done.
Main annoyances:
- no removable fiber
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPON over radio
>
> I am wondering if I took a media converter with a bidi with the gpon up and
> down frequency and did another one at the other end, if the signal would come
I'm interested to hear more about the Tibit SFP OLT. Please share, especially
pricing, availibility and compatibility with ONUs.
Jared
Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2020
From: "Trey Scarborough"
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GPON over radio
I am going to test using a 80 ghz
A VPN isn't going to solve this particular problem. Said 14 year old will have
to create a new Apple account and register it to use another country's app
store. A VPN may at some point be required, currently not.
Expect lots of Youtube videos and howtos to pop up.
Jared
Sent: Saturday,
Ribbon splices are bound to have higher losses than singles, as ribbon splicers
are cladding aligned, not core aligned.
Have you run a bi-directional OTDR trace on the problem splices to get an
accurate measurement of loss? A one way OTDR trace may over or understate the
real loss.
Jared
>
So, Chuck, you are using a power meter to determine that fusion splices
reported as 0.02 dB are actually 0.1 dB?
That's really impressive if you are measuring from CO to the subscriber. Not
only will your documentation have to be perfectly accurate correctly reflecting
each span length, the 2%
Re: fusion splice losses, is the first the loss reported by the fusion splicer
and the latter a measured value?
Do you measure with light source and power meter or bidirectional OTDR? One way
OTDR shots are only an estimate and may report incorrect loss values for
splices.
Even at 0.1 dB
Getting Fiber to My Town by Jared Mauch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASXJgvy3mEg (YouTube video of NLnog
presentation)
https://nlnog.net/static/live/nlnog_live_sep_2020_jared.pdf (slides for
presentation)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24424910#24430901 (discussion on Hacker
News with
Just as an FYI, there are some nonexpensive fusion splicers out there.
Chinese models (AI-8/AI-9) for under a grand on Amazon. Less on
eBay/Aliexpress. I got one. It works. There's apparently an add-on for splice
on connectors.
Smaller handheld models from Jilong (a grand) and Easysplicer (bit
There is also fabric innerduct which you can use to sub-duct an occupied duct.
However, in a 1.25" duct it will be a *really* tight squeeze.
Jared
> Sent: Wednesday, September 09
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