4100 and 4800 only.. not 4200 since 4200 is a dual core single band radio.
From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2021 10:47 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
But is A2C+ available on both the wtm4100 and 4200, or just the
AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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> Is there a new wtm version with better a2c performance? we have some
> 4100's that we need to deploy with a2c and those I believe have the a2c
> losses still?
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> On Thu,
A2C+ is a new SKU.. it’s a hardware change.
From: AF On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2021 10:38 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
Is there a new wtm version with better a2c performance? we have some 4100's
that we need to d
hat the channels must be adjacent channels, and last I
>> checked they are limited to 1024QAM. In my market I have had trouble
>> getting the adjacent channels required to implement Bridgewave 4+0 links.
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>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Ken Ho
y 05, 2021 6:54 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
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> Do these radios also let you do 4+0 with A2C+XPIC in one radio, rather
> than 2 radios and a combiner?
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From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2021 6:54 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
Do these radios also let you do 4+0 with A2C+XPIC in one radio, rather than 2
radios and a combiner?
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t’s not like you have a nationwide
>> license to use that frequency.
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>> From: AF <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On
>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 9:17 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
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> From: "Tim Hardy"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 8:49:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
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> Part 101 was derived from the old Part 21 that was developed in the late 60
wed would not be affected
based on EIRP, distance, antenna sidelobes, etc. It’s not like you
have a nationwide license to use that frequency.
*From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 6, 2021 9:17 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-
: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 9:17 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
Not from a legal perspective, but from a technical perspective.
If an 80+40 = 112 setup was no worse at the channel edges, why would it matter
what happened in the middle?
More
Brothers WISP
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From: "Tim Hardy"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 8:49:17 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
Part 101 was derived from the old Part 21 that was developed in the late 60s /
ear
Not something you feel is equivalent.
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> From: AF On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 12:09 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
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> Hey Tim,
>
> Does this rule have a reason? Or is it just a rul
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:14 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
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> There's really not even a lot of good reasons to do it. If the Aviat
> radios are able to run full power now using A2C, you can accomplis
Do these radios also let you do 4+0 with A2C+XPIC in one radio, rather than 2
radios and a combiner?
From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 7:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
There's really not even a lot of
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> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:36 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
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> My coordinator told me no. Not a maybe no, but a flat no. Had to do
> primarily with the band e
Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 5:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
My coordinator told me no. Not a maybe no, but a flat no. Had to do primarily
with the band edges. I'd love to do it, and the radios will do it. But the FCC
gets inv
are some licensed radios now that I think can do 2 x 80 MHz
>>> channels in a single core, like from Aviat or SIAE maybe, I don't know if
>>> this gets around the splitter cost and performance issues. I may have that
>>> feature completely wrong, I haven't looked into it
anz
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
Sorry which vendor has a2c+? Google fu not worky
On Tue, Jan 5, 2021, 1:32 PM Peter Kranz via AF mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:
A2C power hit at higher modulations is resolved by the newly released A2C+
hardware. So you can do a 2x80Mhz in
> completely wrong, I haven't looked into it. There could also be a
> performance hit by using the same xmt power amp for 160 MHz.
> I also haven't checked out the full feature set of the new PTP850C, the
> only thing I know it has is SFP+.
>
> Original Message ---
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<mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
From: AF On Behalf Of Tim Hardy
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2021 12:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
The dual-core WTM-4200 radio only suffers a coupler loss hit. I think you’re
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> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2021 12:09 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
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>
>
> Hey Tim,
>
>
>
> Does this rule have a reason? Or is it just a rule fo
license. Not something you feel is equivalent.
From: AF On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 12:09 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
Hey Tim,
Does this rule have a reason? Or is it just a rule for rule's sake?
O
re could also be a
>> performance hit by using the same xmt power amp for 160 MHz.
>> I also haven't checked out the full feature set of the new PTP850C, the
>> only thing I know it has is SFP+.
>>
>> Original Message
>> From: "Adam Moffett&quo
Check out the Bridgewave Navigator.
It may be able to do this with no extra parts.
Adam
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From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, January 4, 2021 11:16 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
I&#
me xmt power amp for 160 MHz.
> I also haven't checked out the full feature set of the new PTP850C, the only
> thing I know it has is SFP+.
>
> Original Message
> From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: 1/4/2021 1:30:45 PM
> To
ginal Message
From: "Adam Moffett"
Sent: 1/4/2021 1:30:45 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
Ok yeah, the Link Planner BOM shows some splitters. I wonder if Link
Planner already accounted for the additional losses when I selected "Co
Polar"
27;t looked into it. There could also be a
>> performance hit by using the same xmt power amp for 160 MHz.
>> I also haven't checked out the full feature set of the new PTP850C, the
>> only thing I know it has is SFP+.
>>
>> Original Message
>> Fro
it by using the same xmt power amp for 160 MHz.
> I also haven't checked out the full feature set of the new PTP850C, the only
> thing I know it has is SFP+.
>
> Original Message
> From: "Adam Moffett" mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: 1/4/2021 1:
Adam -
SIAE's ALFOPlus2XG radio can do this easily.
One ODU (two radios in one housing) with a Hybrid Branching unit connects
directly to the back of a single pole antenna.
Setup would be just like any other MW radio.
Let me know if you need any more info.
Thanks,
Joe S
ew PTP850C, the only
> thing I know it has is SFP+.
>
> Original Message
> From: "Adam Moffett"
> Sent: 1/4/2021 1:30:45 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
>
> Ok yeah, the Link Planner BOM shows some splitters. I wonder if Link
>
ull feature set of the new PTP850C, the
> only thing I know it has is SFP+.
>
> Original Message
> From: "Adam Moffett"
> Sent: 1/4/2021 1:30:45 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
>
> Ok yeah, the Link Planner BOM shows some sp
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> From: "Adam Moffett"
> Sent: 1/4/2021 1:30:45 PM
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
>
> Ok yeah, the Link Planner BOM shows some splitters. I wonder if Link
> Planner already accounted for the additional losses when I selected "Co
>
From: "Adam Moffett"
Sent: 1/4/2021 1:30:45 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
Ok yeah, the Link Planner BOM shows some splitters. I wonder if Link
Planner already accounted for the additional losses when I selected "Co
Polar" on the dropdown.
On 1/4/202
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From: "Adam Moffett"
Sent: 1/4/2021 1:16:26 PM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
I'm looking at a path where the coordinator can get me two 50mhz XPIC
channels, or two 80mhz H-Pol channels.
I've never installed co-polar. Do y
x27;s from memory, and
mine is not so reliable.
Original Message
From: "Adam Moffett"
Sent: 1/4/2021 1:16:26 PM
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Subject: [AFMUG] 2+0 Co-Polar
I'm looking at a path where the coordinator can get me two 50mhz XPIC
channel
I'm looking at a path where the coordinator can get me two 50mhz XPIC
channels, or two 80mhz H-Pol channels.
I've never installed co-polar. Do you need a lot of extra junk to make
that work?
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