ompany/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ------
ing, but
>> there seems to be a lot of interest in selling. I wonder why.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it because customers are getting on our nerves? I know they’re
>> getting on mine. Everyone is stuck in their house doing everything on the
>> Internet and whining about it
://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> ----------
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes"
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> *Sent: *Monday, August 24, 2020 8:05:04 PM
change
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
>
>
>
> From: "Matt Hoppes"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 8:05:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
> I’ve often thought if a competitor ever cam
Exchange
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "Matt Hoppes"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 8:05:04 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
I’ve often thought if a competitor ever came into town - I won’
r house and the contractors are here right now taking
>>> your dish off the roof or putting siding nails through your cable. Or
>>> they’re buying/selling houses because interest rates are like zero or to
>>> move away from the virus or to a different school district.
>
:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:05 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
I know it *CAN* be anything.
I'm asking what it is for successful, arms-length, nothing special
transactions. I do expect
Agreed. I sold some equity to a current partner. In retrospect, way too
cheaply. I should have sold it to him at a reasonable price and let him buy
into the rest as he could afford it.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 11:38 AM Chuck McCown wrote:
> If they put skin in the game. Big no to gifting
us or to a different school district.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:05 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
>
>
> I know it *CAN* be a
said, “OK, we had a nice year and your tax liability will
be $10K, so happy to share that tax burden with you”. They took the offer.
From: Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:58 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
One of the most
One of the most interesting thing about an ESOP that I didn’t realize is that
the control of the company does not need to be under the control of the
employees. The employees can hold 100% of the stock and still have zero
control of the company. Employees don’t directly own the stock, a
Everyone should listen to Chuck re: all subjects of this entire thread.
The replace bologna with Spam thread….not so much.
On 23 Aug 2020, at 12:35, Chuck McCown wrote:
I will never give employees ownership again. Has a couple really bad
experiences with that.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug
If they put skin in the game. Big no to gifting equity.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 23, 2020, at 7:45 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
>
> ESOP isn't a compromise. It is a group of employees willing to risk what they
> have for what they want. I would rather sell to e employee's than anyone
I do profit sharing when there are profits that can be shared. Just not equity
sharing.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 23, 2020, at 6:22 AM, Matt Hoppes
> wrote:
>
>
> Lewis,
> It’s your business and you can do what you want to with it and I won’t judge
> anyone for that.
>
> We do do
I will never give employees ownership again. Has a couple really bad
experiences with that.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 23, 2020, at 6:09 AM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>
> Or do the compromise between you and Matt - the ESOP where the employees end
> up owning it. You get nearly the same
I meant ‘compromise’ in the sense that it rewards both the original owner and
the employees., not in terms of the value out of the business.
Mark
> On Aug 23, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
>
> ESOP isn't a compromise. It is a group of employees willing to risk what they
> have
F On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:05 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
> I know it *CAN* be anything.
>
> I'm asking what it is for successful, arms-length, nothing special
> t
to a competitor.
From: AF On Behalf Of Tyson Burris
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
Steve-
We have one individual on our payroll, part time. He does consulting work for
us and others. Assuming he
se interest rates are like zero or to move away from the virus or
> to a different school district.
>
>
> From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 10:05 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling
Chuck McCown" mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
That can be anything. There is no connection between revenue and earnings
On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 8:50 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
Is that a common thing in businesses? Employees getting a cut of a sale? I
could see the purchaser giving a retention or severance, but I d9nt see how
: "Chuck McCown"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:28:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
That can be anything. There is no connection between revenue and earnings. You
can have $2M in revenue but -$5M in incom
On the ESOP topic I will say I had a friend that still owns part of an
ESOP. His father started it. He was lucky to have a group of employees that
was eager to buy into the company. Last count I got from him more than 10
people have retired with at least a million dollar buyout. Every ESOP owner
We did what most people would call profit sharing. I didn't view it as
profit sharing for the simple reason that I always matched 100%, even when
we didn't make a profit. Same with bonuses. If someone deserved a bonus,
sometimes that didn't show up in the bottom line but they got it anyway.
I am
ESOP isn't a compromise. It is a group of employees willing to risk what
they have for what they want. I would rather sell to e employee's than
anyone else.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 7:09 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote:
> Or do the compromise between you and Matt - the ESOP where the employees
> end up
Is it common? No
Why isn’t it common? I have no idea.
Yes I as the owner took the risk. But X Y and Z employees have been here with
me for the past 30 years and kept things running.
Shouldn’t I be grateful for what they helped me build?
Like I said - I’m not judging anyone who makes a
Is that a common thing in businesses? Employees getting a cut of a sale? I
could see the purchaser giving a retention or severance, but I d9nt see how
an employee would be entitled to anything more than a handshake or kick in
the pants
On Sun, Aug 23, 2020, 7:22 AM Matt Hoppes
wrote:
> Lewis,
>
Lewis,
It’s your business and you can do what you want to with it and I won’t judge
anyone for that.
We do do profit sharing at the end of the year.
I guess it’s just a different cultural approach to business, while it’s true I
do have all the risk, we wouldn’t be anywhere even close to where
Or do the compromise between you and Matt - the ESOP where the employees end up
owning it. You get nearly the same money out and they eventually get the same
deal - if they can keep it going and build it. It’s harder because you have
to figure out how to both get it to cash out and build at
This isn't the feel good kumbaya that might be popular, but I'll say this
on the subject of division of profits:
I started my WISP by myself. All of you who started with your own
checkbook and sweat know what that took. My family sacrificed as I worked
massive hours. I did everything from
Now that I think about it - I wonder if my plan of C would be a way to reduce
income taxes too on the amount received?
Either by funneling the money through the company and paying the employees or
having the buying company write a check to each of the key employees.
I’m not sure which would
were both unique personalities.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:36 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
>
>
> I sold to JAB. Got $9.5M for
You can find anything on the Internet. How to burn cash:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-oDl7Seix0
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:29 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
That can be anything
wave Users Group"
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:01:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
> Whatever 5x your earnings are. Not sales or revenue or gross profit but
> bottom line earnings on your income statement/ pl. Your taxable income.
>
> S
gt; *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 9:21 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
>
>
> The boss wants to find some around here for sale, but jab/rise kind of
> cleaned out th
ense keys for radios. Like capacity keys or
> lite to full keys or all those keys you buy for a licensed link.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 4:19 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
s Group"
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:01:44 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
Whatever 5x your earnings are. Not sales or revenue or gross profit but bottom
line earnings on your income statement/ pl. Your taxable income.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 22, 20
> keys or all those keys you buy for a licensed link.
>
> From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 4:19 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
> +1^6
>
> I like my books to be s
Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
+1^6
I like my books to be surgically accurate and very current. I want to know
exactly where we are every month. I have a third column of class of expenses
in my books. Any of the crap I buy because I want to or I am experimenting or
I
: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
Any WISP that has been around for 10+ years has probably expensed or
depreciated several times as much equipment as is currently active in their
network.
Do you have to identify which expensed or depreciated equipment is still in
use and which
You need to ask your accountant. I know it was a huge phantom income for us.
From: Tushar Patel
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 2:36 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
I am very curious on the subject of depreciation recapture. So, were you
at back. I presume
>> stuff you junked does not count.
>>
>> From: Ken Hohhof <>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:04 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>>
>> Any WIS
ent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:04 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>>
>> Any WISP that has been around for 10+ years has probably expensed or
>> depreciated several times as much equipment a
y, August 22, 2020 12:04 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
> Any WISP that has been around for 10+ years has probably expensed or
> depreciated several times as much equipment as is currently active in their
> network.
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
Very few want to buy a company for reasons you already laid out. I also found
from a different corporate sale that if they buy the company they seem to
discount the price about 25 to 30%. looking at it both ways it didn't seem to
make much
know most buyers prefer an asset sale to a stock sale, in case there are
> ghosts in the closets. But would a stock sale avoid this problem? Does it
> matter C Corp, S Corp or LLC?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:
signed term
> contracts, but how long does that last? And if service declines after the
> sale, many customers will say that contract was with the previous company not
> you.
>
>
> From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 1:45 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Micro
Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
Buyers with too much funny money, or I'm missing something. I guess if you're
coming in as the 800 lb gorilla, you can cut some corners.
--
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 11:41 AM Lewis Bergman
most buyers prefer an asset sale to a stock sale, in case there are
>> ghosts in the closets. But would a stock sale avoid this problem? Does it
>> matter C Corp, S Corp or LLC?
>>
>>
>> From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
>> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020
Does it matter C Corp, S Corp or LLC?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:51 AM
>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
&g
*From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:51 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
>
>
> One concept that was new to me in my sale was depreciation recapture. If
> you fully
aturday, August 22, 2020 12:04 PM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
>
> Any WISP that has been around for 10+ years has probably expensed or
> depreciated several times as much equipment as is currently active in their
&
e to a stock sale, in case there are
> ghosts in the closets. But would a stock sale avoid this problem? Does it
> matter C Corp, S Corp or LLC?
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:51 AM
> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Mic
.
>
> From: Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 12:04 PM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
> Any WISP that has been around for 10+ years has probably expensed or
> depreciated several time
: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
Any WISP that has been around for 10+ years has probably expensed or
depreciated several times as much equipment as is currently active in their
network.
Do you have to identify which expensed or depreciated equipment is still in use
and which went
re are
> ghosts in the closets. But would a stock sale avoid this problem? Does it
> matter C Corp, S Corp or LLC?
>
>
> From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:51 AM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> Subject: Re: [AFMU
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
One concept that was new to me in my sale was depreciation recapture. If you
fully expense or 179 expense or if your equipment is old enough to have fully
depreciated, all the depreciation expense comes back to bite you
There are two options with a company:
Build it up and sell - which needs to generate enough one time income to
satisfy removing years of recurring.
Built it up and smoke it until it’s gone - which basically means you grow it
huge, invest in it during the prime years, and then smoke it until
h to have fully
> depreciated, all the depreciation expense comes back to bite you in the ass.
> You will be taxed on it.
>
> From: Ken Hohhof
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 9:39 AM
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:36 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
I sold to JAB. Got $9.5M for 6000 customers as I recall. Travis, Sterling and
I all sold about the same time to them.
Once debt
'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
That is very dependent on whether the business is being run as “milking the
cash cow” or “reinvesting to grow the business”. Especially since section 179
allows a lot of capital purchases to be expensed in the first year.
I suspect many WISP owners
, August 22, 2020 9:39 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
That is very dependent on whether the business is being run as “milking the
cash cow” or “reinvesting to grow the business”. Especially since section 179
allows a lot of capital
the cancellations. Like
when asked about Frontier, I describe them as the slum landlord of phone
companies.
From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:02 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
Whatever 5x your earnings
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
If someone offered me enough I might sell.
But it needs to be enough to be worth my while to walk away from:
A) a job I enjoy most days
B) walking away from recurring revenue for the next 10 years
C) enough to distribute to my employees who have helped
ave been made?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>
> Midwest Internet Exchange
>
> The Brothers WISP
>
>
>
> From: "Chuck McCown"
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Sent: Friday, August
uot;AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:20:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
> 5 x ebidta
> Revenue multiples are of no value.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 21, 2020, at 5:30 PM, cjwstudios wrote:
>
Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
The boss wants to find some around here for sale, but jab/rise kind of cleaned
out the shelves. It seems the last few standing either did merger's or are just
standing on pure spite and irritation like us and wouldnt sell
On 8/21/20 7:13 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
In reality, many dialup ISPs used wholesale modem banks and their only
expense was advertising, and their only asset was customers.
I still see that today. "We're nationwide!!" Congrats on being able to
resell AT I guess.
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> ------
> *From: *"Chuck McCown"
> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
> *Sent: *Friday, August 21, 2020 8:20:47 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
> 5 x ebidta
> Revenue mu
cCown"
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:20:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
5 x ebidta
Revenue multiples are of no value.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 21, 2020, at 5:30 PM, cjwstudios wrote:
1x annual revenue and hop
that is
confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review,
dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by
unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly
prohibited.
From: AF On Behalf Of cjwstudios
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 9:46 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Buying
know it yet. They may have not asked for a
prorated refund, or the seller may not have offered that.
From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 9:13 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
It seems like JAB popularized
ff, some of that might have already been done.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *cjwstudios
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2020 6:30 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
. BS.
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 7:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
The last one we looked at purchasing, the owner wanted "much more than 1x
revenue". We knew from
)
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 7:21 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
The last one we looked at purchasing, the owner wanted "much more than 1x
revenue". We knew from experience with the gear they were using, and the way
that they had
I don't have a lot of acquisition experience. It's been many years since
we acquired anyone so take the following with a grain of salt.
I would argue that the only thing of value in many WISPs are their
customers. So you have to start with how much you think those customers
are worth once you
have already been done.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *cjwstudios
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2020 6:30 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>>
>>
>>
&
5 x ebidta
Revenue multiples are of no value.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 21, 2020, at 5:30 PM, cjwstudios wrote:
>
>
> 1x annual revenue and hope the customers stay on
>
>> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 5:43 PM Matt Hoppes
>> wrote:
>> This is the issue I’ve always had when I’ve looked at
nd, if you planned to cut redundant
>> staff, some of that might have already been done.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *cjwstudios
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2020 6:30 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject
riday, August 21, 2020 6:30 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
>
>
>
> 1x annual revenue and hope the customers stay on
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 5:43 PM Matt Hoppes <
> mattli...@rivervalleyinterne
been
neglected. On the other hand, if you planned to cut redundant staff, some of
that might have already been done.
From: AF On Behalf Of cjwstudios
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 6:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s
1x annual
1x annual revenue and hope the customers stay on
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 5:43 PM Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
> This is the issue I’ve always had when I’ve looked at buying an ISP. It
> always seems like a lot more money I would have to put out to buy then I
> could
This is the issue I’ve always had when I’ve looked at buying an ISP. It always
seems like a lot more money I would have to put out to buy then I could just
build and take the customers if something is wrong with the current network.
> On Aug 21, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>
> On
On 8/20/20 8:13 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
I think you either buy or sell, isp isnt really a flip thing
There is/was someone in my part of the country buying up ISPs and trying
to package them all together as a flip. My ISP customers tell me it's
far easier to get the flipper's customers to
love/hate you mean
On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 7:59 AM cjwstudios wrote:
> Yes definitely not a flip. My last ISP was a 10 year labor of love.
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:14 PM Steve Jones
> wrote:
>
>> I think you either buy or sell, isp isnt really a flip thing
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020,
Yes definitely not a flip. My last ISP was a 10 year labor of love.
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 10:14 PM Steve Jones
wrote:
> I think you either buy or sell, isp isnt really a flip thing
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 8:57 PM Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> Sure. Rise/digits and whatever else they were
I think you either buy or sell, isp isnt really a flip thing
On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 8:57 PM Chuck McCown wrote:
> Sure. Rise/digits and whatever else they were called used to be one of
> the largest buyers out there. If the price is right anyone is likely to
> sell.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
Sure. Rise/digits and whatever else they were called used to be one of the
largest buyers out there. If the price is right anyone is likely to sell.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 20, 2020, at 7:46 PM, cjwstudios wrote:
>
>
> Do folks still buy and sell ISP’s? I was bored and thinking
Do folks still buy and sell ISP’s? I was bored and thinking about getting
back into climbing ladders. I need the exercise.
Best,
CJ
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