Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS

2018-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS So funny, we used to have a commissioner here that everyone called Boss Hogg. He wasn’t quite as short. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG

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2018-11-01 Thread chuck
So funny, we used to have a commissioner here that everyone called Boss Hogg. He wasn’t quite as short. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 11:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS I can see the 1st amendment thing. "Uh oh

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2018-11-01 Thread Adam Moffett
o: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: 10/31/2018 6:45:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS I’d find it more “ominous” if there was an actual case of them censoring someone, rather than just some language in an AUP. I’d also worry more if the current AUP actually had such l

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2018-11-01 Thread Robert Andrews
lFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS But not lamb. *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 1, 2018 8:50 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS I like fruit cake and mincemeat pie too. *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Thursday, Novem

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2018-11-01 Thread Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 8:54 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS   But

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2018-11-01 Thread Bill Prince
.    From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 8:17 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS   Lima beans bad

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2018-11-01 Thread chuck
But not lamb. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 8:50 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS I like fruit cake and mincemeat pie too. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 8:17 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG

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2018-11-01 Thread chuck
Are we off topic yet? From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 8:54 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS But not lamb. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 8:50 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG

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2018-11-01 Thread chuck
I like fruit cake and mincemeat pie too. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 8:17 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS Lima beans bad. Vienna sausage good. Spam good on camping trips, not so much otherwise. Liver bad. Rice pudding good. Bacon good

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2018-11-01 Thread Bill Prince
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS   Sounds good, just hold the brussels sprouts and give me

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2018-11-01 Thread Bill Prince
To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS   I LOVE barbecued Brussels sprouts. Especially when there are bits of bacon sprinkled over them. bp   On 10/31/2018 1:06 PM, ch

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2018-11-01 Thread chuck
Lima beans, pickled beets, vienna sausages, spam. Love lots of things my kids and grand kids think are non-foods. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2018 7:51 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS Sounds good, just hold the brusse

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2018-11-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
unsuccessfully to persuade him to love broccoli. https://www.cnn.com/2016/06/25/politics/george-h-w-bush-broccoli-twitter/index.html From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:50 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS I LOVE barbecued

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2018-10-31 Thread Bill Prince
Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 1:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS   I’m not a huge fan of muni

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2018-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:53 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS Rise is a private company. They can write whatever rules they want. A city is government, the people. They should not be able

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2018-10-31 Thread chuck
, you could not quote certain passages from Huck Finn in an email if using the muni system. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:46 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS By the article, you mean the think tank guy? That paper

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2018-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
, and has ties to ALEC. Not saying that’s wrong, just that they are carrying water for big telecom. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 4:03 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS This is breaking

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2018-10-31 Thread chuck
This is breaking LENT a bit. The TN one was the one quoted in the article. Specifically mentioned hate speech. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:35 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS Chuck, where in this document do

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2018-10-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
mp;T. > > > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Mark Radabaugh > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:00 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > > I’m not a h

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2018-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
roviding police and fire services. I guess those don’t bother some big corporation like AT&T. From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS I’m not a huge fan of muni broadband for

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2018-10-31 Thread Robert
alf Of*Mark Radabaugh *Sent:*Wednesday, October 31, 2018 1:47 PM *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS Michael O’Rielly absolutely positively thinks it’s a fantastic idea. The really scary part is that he thinks it’s better for private industry to own it, si

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2018-10-31 Thread chuck
Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS I’m not a huge fan of muni broadband for some of the reasons you cite. I was just amazed that he is all for free speech when it meets his goals and then completely against it another circumstance. Mark On Oct 31, 2018, at 3:53 PM

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2018-10-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
only a socialist when it serves my purposes, at all other times I am a > libertarian... > > From: Mark Radabaugh <> > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 1:49 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > > Oh, it’s even bett

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2018-10-31 Thread chuck
a socialist when it serves my purposes, at all other times I am a libertarian... From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 1:49 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS Oh, it’s even better. In the same speech where he was railing against

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2018-10-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
> > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Mark Radabaugh > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 1:47 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > > Michael O’Rielly absolut

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2018-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
-broadband-an-ominous-threat-to-the-first-amendment From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 1:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS Michael O’Rielly absolutely positively thinks it’s a fantastic idea. The

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2018-10-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
not worth paying much money to “own”. > > > > > > From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf > Of Dave > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:13 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS > >

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2018-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
gigabit speeds, serve densely populated areas, and compete with cable. But how much is it worth in flyover country? From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:36 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS If you're the government, the au

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2018-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
spectrum, CBRS is like icing on the cake, nice but not mission critical, and possibly not worth paying much money to “own”. *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Dave *Sent:* Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:13 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmu

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2018-10-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/31/18 9:06 AM, Joe Novak wrote: " On the other hand, they get rewarded for carrying spectrum as an asset on their balance sheet." This is the most disgusting thing about the American auctioning system right now. Who in their right minds thought it was a good idea to just auction a fin

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2018-10-31 Thread Joe Novak
channel in > other spectrum, CBRS is like icing on the cake, nice but not mission > critical, and possibly not worth paying much money to “own”. > > > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Dave > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:13 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Su

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2018-10-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
anchor channel in other spectrum, CBRS is like icing on the cake, nice but not mission critical, and possibly not worth paying much money to “own”. From: AF On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:13 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS That makes

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2018-10-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Adam - your statement is correct. The UE’s will most likely be over 23dB EIRP and will need a SAS grant. Mark > On Oct 31, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Oh I see. I think all of our existing UE have greater than 23dbm EIRP. > So all of our UE will have to be registered in the SA

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2018-10-31 Thread Dave
That makes it easier for the carriers to stomp out the little GAA guys :) On 10/31/18 9:50 AM, Joe Novak wrote: I think it's more likely that they will have a licensed anchor channel and only aggregate 3.65 in the downlink, using different frequencies for uplink. Carrier aggregation is a whole

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2018-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
Oh I see.  I think all of our existing UE have greater than 23dbm EIRP. So all of our UE will have to be registered in the SAS? Sorry, I gave up following these rules after like 5 years of them being 1 year away, so I have no idea what's going on anymore.  I guess I have to catch up. -Adam

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2018-10-31 Thread Joe Novak
I think it's more likely that they will have a licensed anchor channel and only aggregate 3.65 in the downlink, using different frequencies for uplink. Carrier aggregation is a whole different game of spectrum usage. On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 9:38 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > One thing that was unfort

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2018-10-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
23dB EIRP to operate in Category A as an EUD (End User Device - which can be mobile).To operate over 23dB EIRP the device has to be a CBSD and register with the SAS. Mark > On Oct 31, 2018, at 10:37 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > One thing that was unfortunate about the NN license was tha

[AFMUG] Mobile in CBRS

2018-10-31 Thread Adam Moffett
One thing that was unfortunate about the NN license was that mobile stations had a stupid low Tx power limit.   Basically mobile wasn't viable. Is CBRS going to have that type of restriction? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com