Re: [AFMUG] tecnu

2019-08-07 Thread Andrew Haninger
It seems to me that plain soap and water (if available) should also do the trick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oyoDRHpQK0 Andy On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:44 AM Bill Prince wrote: > > What we do instead of Tecnu is just carry a bottle of rubbing alcohol > and a roll of paper towels. Alcohol

Re: [AFMUG] tecnu

2019-08-07 Thread Bill Prince
My Mom used to insist on using Fels Naptha soap. She was very sensitive to poison ivy, but loved collecting mushrooms where I grew up. She would always wash up with the stuff after a mushroom outing. bp On 8/7/2019 5:57 AM, Josh Baird wrote:

[AFMUG] uBolts

2019-08-07 Thread Matt
Looking for galvanized uBolts with 5 inch inside diameter. Anyone know source? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] uBolts

2019-08-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
Sitepro1 might. Be careful though, I once needed 2 galv u bolts and accidently ordered 2 buckets of 100 each. I still have a bunch of those. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 8:19 AM Matt wrote: > Looking for galvanized uBolts with 5 inch inside diameter. Anyone know > source? > > -- > AF mailing list >

Re: [AFMUG] tecnu

2019-08-07 Thread Jay Weekley
I've tried Tecnu as well as degreasers such as Gojo and Super Orange. I figure if it removes black motor grease from my skin it should work on poison ivy. I can't tell if either works or not. Bill Prince wrote: Yes, it works. The open space district field workers use it all the time. You

Re: [AFMUG] tecnu

2019-08-07 Thread Josh Baird
As someone who is ridiculously allergic to poison ivy/oak: Tecnu works. I keep it on hand. Dawn+cold water also works as it cuts the oil. There are also some other soaps that are typically available at outdoors stores that are known to work if applied immediately after exposure. On Wed, Aug

Re: [AFMUG] uBolts

2019-08-07 Thread Bill Prince
McMaster-Carr. They have a wide variety of U-bolts including galvanized. https://www.mcmaster.com/u-bolts bp On 8/7/2019 6:18 AM, Matt wrote: Looking for galvanized uBolts with 5 inch inside diameter. Anyone know source? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] tecnu

2019-08-07 Thread Bill Prince
What we do instead of Tecnu is just carry a bottle of rubbing alcohol and a roll of paper towels. Alcohol will cut the usushiol without opening the pores on your skin. Pour a liberal amount of alcohol on a paper towel and wipe it over your arms (or face or legs or hands), and dispose of the

Re: [AFMUG] uBolts

2019-08-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Would 4-5/8 be close enough? https://www.sitepro1.com/store/cart.php?m=product_list=67 -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 8:22 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] uBolts McMaster-Carr. They have a wide variety of U-bolts

[AFMUG] OT: House repeater contract

2019-08-07 Thread Andy Trimmell
Anyone have a template for a house repeater contract? Hit me offlist atrimmell @ precisionds.com Andy Trimmell Business Manager PDS Connect 317-831-3000 -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I assume you have a point and that I didn't just hear an echo. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Craig Schmaderer" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Wednesday, August 7,

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor/Outdoor Fiber Patch

2019-08-07 Thread Chris Fabien
Corning makes a "rugged drop" assembly Graybar has them in stock in several sizes. Not armored but very sturdy jacket, I think they only come in SC/APC ends. We use for run from NID to a baseboard jack. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 11:22 AM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I

[AFMUG] Pounce on Zayo...

2019-08-07 Thread Robert Andrews
I also had the wonderful experience of having an engineering person and a _sales person_ tell me that they really don't care about $3k/month customers and that we can go away... And then found out about the $26K it was going to cost to cancel... Really you don't want to get involved with

Re: [AFMUG] Pounce on Zayo...

2019-08-07 Thread Robert Andrews
Just consider the attitude of a provider that will basically trash a 10 year ( always paid a month in advance ) customer ( outlay over 10 years, 360K! ) for now and forever and in any future relationships, and who knows how many other angles, for $26k.You really want to ask yourself who

Re: [AFMUG] Pounce on Zayo...

2019-08-07 Thread Robert Andrews
From my knowledge of the founders, it's closer to the truth than you would like to know... On 08/07/2019 10:07 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: We’ve also had nothing but problems with Zayo.. and their “Tranzact” team. Looking to move away as soon as possible. It’s like dealing with the mob.

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Craig Schmaderer
But it’s Zayo… From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:31 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT and? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor/Outdoor Fiber Patch

2019-08-07 Thread Carl Peterson
Craig, Do you have any pics of them? what does construction on them look like on a simplex cable? I recently found someone who says they can do Corning or OFS 4.8mm at a reasonable price. Dropped my first order but the lead is like a month as well. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:55 AM Craig

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/7/19 9:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: and? Zayo is shit. They'll tell you they can deliver a service when they never actually intended to. Zayo will make up excuses for literally years, set "firm" dates that move every month, and say anything and blame anyone else except admitting they

Re: [AFMUG] Pounce on Zayo...

2019-08-07 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
We’ve also had nothing but problems with Zayo.. and their “Tranzact” team. Looking to move away as soon as possible. It’s like dealing with the mob. > On Aug 7, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: > > I also had the wonderful experience of having an engineering person and a > _sales

[AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/ It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC. I know several of you have limited transport options, so hopefully this helps. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The

[AFMUG] Indoor/Outdoor Fiber Patch

2019-08-07 Thread Jason McKemie
I need an outdoor, possibly armored fiber patch cable to run from my splice point on the outside of the customer's house to a NID located indoors. Does anyone have a good source for these? I don't need them to be too long, since I can likely mount just inside of the house. Thanks. Jason -- AF

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Robert Andrews
Also if you look at their contract terms, cancellation policy, and sign said doc without modification you should have your head examined. I sure that way about myself when I went to get out of their contract after 10 years. And supposedly the CEO and I were friends at one point in our

Re: [AFMUG] Pounce on Zayo...

2019-08-07 Thread can...@believewireless.net
We had a huge fight with Zayo as well. Avoid them at all costs. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:57 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > I also had the wonderful experience of having an engineering person and > a _sales person_ tell me that they really don't care about $3k/month > customers and that we can go

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Yep, my experience with them is shit as well. They bought out another company that I was working a transit deal on, and wanted triple the amount once they took ownership. So I told them to pound sand. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Seth Mattinen Sent: Wednesday, August 7,

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor/Outdoor Fiber Patch

2019-08-07 Thread Craig Schmaderer
This is all I use anymore, just takes a month to get them. https://www.fs.com/products/70220.html From: AF On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:22 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Indoor/Outdoor Fiber Patch I need an outdoor, possibly armored

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
and? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Robert" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 10:16:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT But it's Zayo...

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/7/19 9:43 AM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: Yep, my experience with them is shit as well. They bought out another company that I was working a transit deal on, and wanted triple the amount once they took ownership. So I told them to pound sand. Exact same thing happened to me too with an

Re: [AFMUG] Pounce on Zayo...

2019-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
What kind of outage? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Robert Andrews" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:13:06 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pounce on Zayo... Just

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Robert
But it's Zayo... On 8/7/19 8:02 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/ It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC. I know several of you have limited transport options, so hopefully this helps. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] Blast from the past - cleaning out my desk

2019-08-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Might could still do one with a focus on fiber construction. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 7, 2019, at 12:47 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Scrolling through this just makes me think about all the fun times back then > :) > > <2019-08-07 14.46.33.jpg> > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 >

Re: [AFMUG] Pounce on Zayo...

2019-08-07 Thread Robert
The 24+ hour one, a piece of legacy equipment went bad.   Just died of old age.   They were saying it would take 4 days to replace ( all equipment related upstream too ) then they finally got a hold of one of the guys from the company that they bought out and he said there was a pile (

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Darin Steffl
Thankfully we don't have Zayo for any fiber but we had colo space in a datacenter they bought and boy has the experience changed. We were paying fair rates for colo and cross connects with the old company and now Zayo is jacking up our price 30% overnight to "Market Rates". We asked them to work

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor/Outdoor Fiber Patch

2019-08-07 Thread Jason McKemie
Do you have any part numbers? On Wednesday, August 7, 2019, Chris Fabien wrote: > Corning makes a "rugged drop" assembly Graybar has them in stock in > several sizes. Not armored but very sturdy jacket, I think they only come > in SC/APC ends. We use for run from NID to a baseboard jack. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Blast from the past - cleaning out my desk

2019-08-07 Thread David Coudron
We would be very interested in one on fiber construction.We even be willing to help organize to try and get it rolling. Regards, David Coudron david.coud...@advantenon.com  |  Mobile: 612-991-7474   Advantenon, Inc.    i...@advantenon.com  |  3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315,

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Ken Hohhof
Good luck with that. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-zayo-group-hldgs-m-a-digitalcolony/digital-colony-eqt-to-take-zayo-private-for-8-2-billion-in-cash-idUSKCN1SE1HH From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 2:56 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Sean Heskett
That follows the exact same route (along I-70/US6) as everything else On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:03 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > https://www.telecomramblings.com/2019/08/zayo-blaze-new-trail-rockies/ > > > It seems to follow US-6 from Denver to SLC. > > I know several of you have limited transport

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Robert
I would love to put together a list of these stories and share it with their stockholders... On 8/7/19 11:14 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: Thankfully we don't have Zayo for any fiber but we had colo space in a datacenter they bought and boy has the experience changed. We were paying fair rates for

Re: [AFMUG] New Fiber Route - CO and UT

2019-08-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Except now it's not Centurylink. I don't know of many other providers out there. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sean Heskett" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor/Outdoor Fiber Patch

2019-08-07 Thread Carl Peterson
Chris, we need them in SCA-SCU. Our plant is almost always SCA, but for rooftops we need to do SCA-SCU to go to a BiDi SFP in a radio. Craig, those look pretty solid. Not sure why you would pay the tariff, china pays that... (too soon to break lent?). I'll order a batch and check them out.

Re: [AFMUG] This is what I had for lunch and you didn't

2019-08-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes, Chile relleno...long green Chile, white cheese and separate white and yolk of eggs...beat whites until firm, add yolk and mix, add flour...make into a batter...pick good Chile from NM, preferably...wash and cut long wise...hot, leave alone. Mild, remove seeds... Place white cheese pieces

Re: [AFMUG] This is what I had for lunch and you didn't

2019-08-07 Thread chuck
Just forwarded this to my wife... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 5:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] This is what I had for lunch and you didn't Yes, Chile relleno...long green Chile, white cheese and separate white and yolk of eggs...beat