Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
There’s a thread on the Cambium forums about this. Forrest posted there as well. I don’t see anything additional over what’s been posted here, other than some misinformation about a satellite problem to be fixed in 2 hours. Interesting that the GLONASS outage 5 years ago also started at

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Not necessarily. Depending on model many have redundant routing engines, multiple power supplies, fan trays, etc. You may want to have spare cards and possibly a empty chassis in the really odd event of a backplane issue. All depends on you risk tolerance. Mark Mark Radabaugh Amplex 22690

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Jon Langeler
Does one have to buy two of these for redundancy as we do with our current but smaller routers? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > >  > Can go wrong with juniper.. I’ll vouch for the MX204’s great units. Our Core > is MX480

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Thanks Forrest, let us know what you find. I can confirm that I have done the power cycle on the Rack injectorswe have seen the same issue occur again...feels like interference. It has been suggested by some to switch to Autosync+Freerun to avoid loss of client use...I guess it really

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
21:00 UTC? From: AF On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 7:04 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues Just an update/random informational message, a lot of which is pretty obvious from this thread: 1) As

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Just an update/random informational message, a lot of which is pretty obvious from this thread: 1) As is pretty obvious at this point, something happened either with the GPS constellation or with the firmware which runs in the GPS module, or some combination of those.What many of you might

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Nate Burke
Number of Visible satellites is still higher, but Tracked satellites is fluctuating around. I think that at some point in time there was a hardware change with the GPS in the EPMP1000. It 'feels' like my earliest EPMP POP's are not seeing any issues. No changes to either Visible or Tracked.

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Brian Webster
I am guessing this is a Y20K issue….ducking….. Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason Wilson Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 6:56 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I do see one of our towers on the east side of our coverage area dropped for a bit, took a few calls. All looks well now. Log shows gps sync issue - Original Message - From: Nate Burke To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:13 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Jason Wilson
Midnight UTC is in 5 minutes. Buckle in. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:44 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Let me know if drinking more at midnight fixes the problem, I’d certainly > be willing to try that. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Andreas Wiatowski > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 31, 2019 5:01 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Let me know if drinking more at midnight fixes the problem, I’d certainly be willing to try that. From: AF On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 5:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues Same here …. I have 100’s of AP

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
It’s not an AP problem. I can log into a Rackinjector/Syncinjector and see the problem. It sees no sats or intermittently sees no sats and says it is not outputting a 1pps signal. Luckily they let you toggle power to the external GPS device (typically a Syncpipe or Syncbox) and that has

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Sterling Jacobson
After we grow a bit more I’m definitely considering upgrading to Juniper. From: AF On Behalf Of Dev Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers Longtime user of both Cisco and Juniper, prefer Juniper, though getting used to

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread George Skorup
...That they want to admit... On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 5:14 PM Brian Webster wrote: > This page lists the US GPS system status, showing nothing out of the > ordinary from what I can tell. > > > > https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?Do=constellationStatus > > > > > > Thank you, > > Brian Webster > >

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread George Skorup
I don't see a leap second being introduced today. No problems reported at GPS.gov either. Clearly something triggered a bug in the latest GTop receivers that Forrest, Cambium and others are using. I'm seeing low SNR and a lot less tracked GLONASS sats after this event. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread David Coudron
So far all Mimosa equipment of ours is reporting a noticeable dip in tracked satellites at the same time: [cid:image001.png@01D5BFFE.20EAE100] Regards, David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 5:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread David Coudron
We are seeing good GPS Sync and valid locations on all Cambium equipment. Half is on CMM4 and half is on PacketFlux. However, we did see a drop in the number of tracked satellites on all Mimosa equipment at approximately 4:15 central. The number of tracked satellites dropped to the lowest

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Brian Webster
This page lists the US GPS system status, showing nothing out of the ordinary from what I can tell. https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?Do=constellationStatus Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Has anyone seen this on anything other than a Cambium AP (regardless of the sync source, Cambium or Packetflux)? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Muehleisen" To: "AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Until we hear something from Forrest, I'm guessing based on which of our sites have been affected that it's not the Syncinjector/Rackinjector but the Syncbox it's using for GPS, and that the ones affected have the newer chip. I'm guessing since I had a cnPulse affected and that's the newest

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Same here …. I have 100’s of AP that I am feeling like I’m forced to go a turn on Generate sync… I hope someone “in the know” can comment soon. This is wanting me to drink more at midnight. Internet. ​Phone. ​TV. Andreas Wiatowski CEO/Founder Silo 1-866-727-4138, ext 600 | andr...@silo.ca

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Dev
Longtime user of both Cisco and Juniper, prefer Juniper, though getting used to the hierarchical structure in JunOS takes some playing with. Nice troubleshooting commands, but it will take you a bit of time to figure out all the “Juniperisms" that are inherent in the platform (as with any other

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Nate Burke
After the initial total loss and recovery, I've slowly been slowly losing tracked satellites. On December 31, 2019 4:51:18 PM CST, Matt Hoppes wrote: >I’m going out on a limb and saying this is a software bug with the >chip. Cambium and packet flux are using. > >No cellular issues. No

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
I’m going out on a limb and saying this is a software bug with the chip. Cambium and packet flux are using. No cellular issues. No BaiCells issues. No Ubiquiti issues. No Stratum issues. > On Dec 31, 2019, at 5:47 PM, John Babineaux > wrote: > > Never mind still happening > > From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread John Babineaux
Never mind still happening From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of John Babineaux Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:16 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues Looks like its stabilizing for us. From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Darin Steffl
Either there a GPS outage on the satellite constellation or foreign actors are testing how to jam the network. I'm curious if other people saw gps issues with cellphones for example. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 4:43 PM Joe Novak wrote: > EPMP1000/2000 reporting GPS drops north central Illinois The

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Joe Novak
EPMP1000/2000 reporting GPS drops north central Illinois The devices are auto-recovering, we have a long hold off on all of them so we're just going to ride through it and see what happens. First alert went off at around 3:18 CST. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:32 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Or it

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
The big question is WHY did this happen? Internet. ​Phone. ​TV. Andreas Wiatowski CEO/Founder Silo 1-866-727-4138, ext 600 | andr...@silo.ca silo.ca From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 5:32 PM To: 'AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or it appears you can turn GPS power off for a few seconds and then back on from the web interface rather than reboot the whole Rackinjector. From: AF On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I just rebooted all our RackInjectors and it has fixed the issue. Surprisingly a reboot didn't drop any of the AP's. That's a very nice feature. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:13 PM Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: > So a fix is a reboot? Just verifying. > > > > > > *[image: LTI-Full_175px]* > > >

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread John Babineaux
Looks like its stabilizing for us. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:13 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues I only dropped sattelites for 5-10 min (Didn't drop sync because of the

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Brian Sullivan
Rebooted both of my affected sites and GPS seems normal now. On 12/31/2019 4:13 PM, Brian Kelly wrote: We’ve had a bunch of ap’s lose sync as well, right across the province (Nova Scotia) Brian On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 18:09 Ken Hohhof > wrote: I’ve got a

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Nate Burke
I didn't do anything, and all mine came back. On 12/31/2019 4:11 PM, Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: So a fix is a reboot? Just verifying. ** *LTI-Full_175px* *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified *

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Nate Burke
I only dropped sattelites for 5-10 min (Didn't drop sync because of the holdoff timer). Everything has now been back for about an hour. All my EPMP radios are reporting happy. Sync Pipe radios are reporting happy too. On 12/31/2019 4:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’ve got a Cambium cnPulse

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Brian Kelly
We’ve had a bunch of ap’s lose sync as well, right across the province (Nova Scotia) Brian On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 18:09 Ken Hohhof wrote: > I’ve got a Cambium cnPulse (uGPS) apparently with the same problem, so > it’s not just Packetflux. I’m trying the power cycle thing on the cnPulse >

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
So a fix is a reboot? Just verifying. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office:

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’ve got a Cambium cnPulse (uGPS) apparently with the same problem, so it’s not just Packetflux. I’m trying the power cycle thing on the cnPulse now. It’s saying 24 sats visible 12 tracked so maybe I’ve got to power cycle all of them? That’s going to be a problem since I’ve got some

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett
I got word that Forrest is looking into it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Muehleisen" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 3:17:39 PM

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Jason Wilson
I just checked my 1000's and they are all up with sync here in California. Af5SHE and b5c are all getting 12 satellites. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019, 1:56 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > China just brought new sat(s) online > > > On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:50 PM Nate Burke wrote: > >> Yes, Native EPMP GPS.

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Here in South Western Ontario Mass GPS outages no sync on a lot of towers. WTF! Internet. ​Phone. ​TV. Andreas Wiatowski CEO/Founder Silo 1-866-727-4138, ext 600 | andr...@silo.ca silo.ca From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Tuesday, December

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’ve got Packetflux Rackinjectors only seeing GLONASS satellites and no 1pps pulse. I’ve powered the GPS port power off and back on for 2 of them and that seemed to make them happy, can’t guarantee yet that actually fixed it. (this is in Illinois) I still have a couple CTMs I need to

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Carl Peterson
China just brought new sat(s) online On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:50 PM Nate Burke wrote: > Yes, Native EPMP GPS. > > An EPMP 3000 AP lost half it's tracked satellites and has not yet > recovered. > > Isn't a new GPS constellation coming online sometime soon. China, Russia, > someone like that.

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Nate Burke
Yes, Native EPMP GPS. An EPMP 3000 AP lost half it's tracked satellites and has not yet recovered. Isn't a new GPS constellation coming online sometime soon. China, Russia, someone like that. On 12/31/2019 3:46 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Doing native ePMP 1000 GPS? I've heard from others

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Doing native ePMP 1000 GPS? I've heard from others on Facebook reporting CMM4\CMM5 losses as well. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Nate Burke
25% more satellites visible, same number tracked. Not all sites were affected though. And at some sites, only a few AP's were affected. Other sites, all were affected. Of sites with affected AP's, they see 25% more satellites visible now, the AP's that did not drop GPS show no change in

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
BaiCells, Ubiquiti, and Ford Telematics are all good in PA. > On Dec 31, 2019, at 4:39 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > > Only seems to be affecting Packetflux rack injectors here. My CTM's and CMM's > are all fine. > >> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:38 PM Mike Hammett wrote: >> On the TBW page,

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Only seems to be affecting Packetflux rack injectors here. My CTM's and CMM's are all fine. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:38 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > On the TBW page, we've had additional confirmations from Ohio and South > Africa. > > Packetflux there too. > > > Someone might want to alert Forest.

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Nate Burke
West of Chicago EPMP1000 GPS. Lots of sites lost satellites/sync. Now they are back seeing about 25% more than they ever have before. On 12/31/2019 3:35 PM, John Babineaux wrote: We are seeing it happening with PacketFlux is that true with you all? CMMs seem to be stable

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Same here, have many customers down.. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office:

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Roland Houin
We are all packetflux. Most if not all seem affected roland From: AF On Behalf Of John Babineaux Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:35 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues We are seeing it happening with PacketFlux is that true with you all?

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett
On the TBW page, we've had additional confirmations from Ohio and South Africa. Packetflux there too. Someone might want to alert Forest. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From:

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread John Babineaux
We are seeing it happening with PacketFlux is that true with you all? CMMs seem to be stable John Babineaux System Administrator REACH4 Communications | Website: www.REACH4Com.com Phone: 337-783-3436 x105 | Email:

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Roland Houin
Cambium 450, 100, epmp All seem affected Packetflux gps roland From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:34 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues For those of you with issues, what platforms are you using? -

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Brian Sullivan
FWIW I have three types of GPS receivers at one particular site affected, and the PacketFlux SyncBox12 is the only one having difficulty right now.  Seems to be flapping.  Motorola CMM + UBNT Radios look OK. On 12/31/2019 3:29 PM, castarritt . wrote: We had three APs on three different towers

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Mike Hammett
For those of you with issues, what platforms are you using? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Muehleisen" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, December 31,

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread castarritt .
We had three APs on three different towers all drop sync at the same time. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:26 PM Roland Houin wrote: > We are seeing an increasing number of ap's not getting sync, now more than > 50 in the last 25 minutes, > We're in northern Indiana > > roland > > -Original

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Roland Houin
We are seeing an increasing number of ap's not getting sync, now more than 50 in the last 25 minutes, We're in northern Indiana roland -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:22 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Brian Sullivan
35 Miles West of Chicago I am having some too starting about the same time. On 12/31/2019 3:17 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: Anyone else having GPS issues this afternoon? Nearly every tower I have across western Kansas is having GPS issues. Start around 3pm CST. -- AF mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
All clear in PA. > On Dec 31, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: > > Anyone else having GPS issues this afternoon? Nearly every tower I have > across western Kansas is having GPS issues. Start around 3pm CST. > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Roland Houin
We are started a few minutes ago around 4 pm est roland From: AF On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] mass GPS issues Anyone else having GPS issues this afternoon? Nearly every tower I have across

[AFMUG] mass GPS issues

2019-12-31 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Anyone else having GPS issues this afternoon? Nearly every tower I have across western Kansas is having GPS issues. Start around 3pm CST. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] UBB Question, what network point do you bill on?

2019-12-31 Thread Adam Moffett
PPPoE and RADIUS accounting is the only "clean" way IMO. If you do it with SNMP then in my opinion you would have to monitor the device uptime also, and then the logic in the backend can then tell the difference between a counter reset due to rolling over past 2^32 and counter reset due to

Re: [AFMUG] UBB Question, what network point do you bill on?

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yep, and it’s probably not a different steak, but the same steak with several delivery attempts from the kitchen to your table. The difference between 30-40 Mbps from the CDN and 20 Mbps delivered to the customer is probably a lot of TCP retransmissions. It’s not like UDP where if the ISP

Re: [AFMUG] UBB Question, what network point do you bill on?

2019-12-31 Thread Nate Burke
So then those doing UBB, how do you data collection for the bits? (I don't do UBB, it was just a thought exercise) SNMP of the sub SM? This may be affected by reboots/RF Drops causing the counters to reset/not read. Netflow at the Tower router? This could record bits that don't get

Re: [AFMUG] UBB Question, what network point do you bill on?

2019-12-31 Thread Steve Jones
Shouldnt your accounting be happening in the same device as your queues? the BMU (powercode or mikrotik) both only account for traffic that actually makes it through the queue AFAIK. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 11:10 AM wrote: > > For those of you doing UBB, do you bill based off of the bits coming

Re: [AFMUG] UBB Question, what network point do you bill on?

2019-12-31 Thread Carl Peterson
Ken, I think your restaurant analogy is off. It is like the restaurant only charging you for what they delivered to your table. IMHO that it the fair way to do it. They only ordered one steak Not their fault the restaurant or its suppliers dropped the other one in the bin before it got to

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Carl Peterson
I've thought about it and will likely do it on the next upgrade. We keep our core routers and BNG in a telco room and rent a server rack in the same DC so it would be nice to be able to extend the router over to the server rack. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 10:46 AM Gino A. Villarini wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] UBB Question, what network point do you bill on?

2019-12-31 Thread fiberrun
> For those of you doing UBB, do you bill based off of the bits coming > into your network destined for the customer, or the bits that actually > reach the customer? > > I was just looking at a new customer who must have been re-syncing his > gaming system, had his connection maxed out for

Re: [AFMUG] UBB Question, what network point do you bill on?

2019-12-31 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah 330GB.  The customer has no control over an aggressive strategy at the CDN. On 12/31/2019 12:01 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I seem to remember seeing explanations that mobile carriers leave some data out of the calculations for billing or data cap purposes.  Like DNS lookups maybe?  Also

Re: [AFMUG] UBB Question, what network point do you bill on?

2019-12-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
I seem to remember seeing explanations that mobile carriers leave some data out of the calculations for billing or data cap purposes. Like DNS lookups maybe? Also retries which LTE networks have a lot of. Then there’s the zero rated data like certain video streams. And I assume VoLTE data

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Anyone running JUnos Fusion? Loving the feature! (converts some EX switches into extended interfaces of the MX router) From: AF on behalf of Gino Villarini Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 at 12:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] UBB Question, what network point do you bill on?

2019-12-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Verizon would probably do the 600 GB, but I'm not a UBB user. If it was dropped at your head end and you didn't have to carry it through your network and by consequence the AP, I wouldn't see a problem with the 330. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Can go wrong with juniper.. I’ll vouch for the MX204’s great units. Our Core is MX480 soon to be upgraded to MX10003 Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m:

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Josh Baird
Overall, the JunOS syntax is far more powerful and nicer to use (once you learn it) than IOS in my opinion. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 10:17 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Syntax is a different but there are a lot of things you will like compared > to the older IOS versions.‘commit confirmed 5’

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Syntax is a different but there are a lot of things you will like compared to the older IOS versions.‘commit confirmed 5’ alone is worth changing for. Mark > On Dec 31, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Larry Smith wrote: > > This first one will replace our primary backbone router > > Mainly just

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Carl Peterson
We run juniper for Core and BNG. Old M7is that are getting replaced by ERPS rings, MX80s for BNG (Need to upgrade this ASAP) and MX 104 (Just does BGP but it is SLOW) at the edge. The 240 is always a good choice if you have the space/power for it. Ideally I'd run 240s as core and 204s as BNGs.

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Larry Smith
Actually older than that. We first got the 7206(s) (have multiple) back in the 90's as NPE-300 units. Upgraded to NPE400's, then to G1 then to G2 units over the years. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon December 30 2019 22:25, Adam Moffett wrote: > Wow.  An early 2000's vintage? > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Larry Smith
Thanks, thought about the MX204 but got this MX240 for a good price. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon December 30 2019 17:03, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Also: juniper-...@puck.nether.net is > a good resource. > > Mark > > > On Dec 30, 2019, at 5:13 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Juniper routers

2019-12-31 Thread Larry Smith
This first one will replace our primary backbone router Mainly just curious what my learning curve is going to be and if there were "resources" here to help when I shoot myself in the foot. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Mon December 30 2019 16:28, Josh Baird wrote: > Several people here