Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I am squinting at what he wrote, at first I thought it said “Vaseline is what I 
use on my poo!”  But maybe it says “pool” not “poo!”  I need better glasses to 
read Calibri 11 point.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 8:01 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

Is that what you call it?

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:18 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

Vaseline is what i use on my pool 

 

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated WD40 
and DC4...
 


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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition is 
probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a food 
grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that 
you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica added 
to make it thicker.

 

If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these are 
probably the same thing:

 

https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html

 

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.




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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where they 
didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water ingress.  

 

Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as being 
used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.  

 

Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I can 
find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot Grease".  
I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably the stuff, 
but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the O-Rings 
on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever they 
usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not work out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Is that what you call it?

From: Steve Jones 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:18 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

Vaseline is what i use on my pool 

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

  Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated WD40 
and DC4...
   

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  On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition 
is probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a food 
grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that 
you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica added 
to make it thicker.



If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these are 
probably the same thing:




https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html







From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?



I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.




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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy  wrote:

  Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some 
where they didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water 
ingress.  



  Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as being 
used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.  



  Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I 
can find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot 
Grease".  I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably 
the stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.



  Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the 
O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever 
they usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not work 
out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof


 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 7:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

We're not nerding on O-rings, we're grocking on LUBE




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On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 5:10 PM Adam Moffett mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I love how we can all nerd out over O-rings.



On 2/12/2019 7:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but petroleum products will 
probably attack the rubber.

 

On something like a Ceragon mount where the O ring doesn’t slide over a tube 
but just presses against the other surface, you’d probably be better off just 
going without lube.  Otherwise, you could use the old photographer’s trick for 
filling scratches – nose oil.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_sebum

 

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>  On Behalf 
Of Tim Withrow via AF
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:41 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Cc: Tim Withrow  <mailto:timwith...@aol.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

It's one of the things I usually forget but always have a vehicle near, so I 
just pulled the dipstick out and get some oil off it.

  _  

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 Steve Jones mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

Vaseline is what i use on my pool 

 

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated WD40 
and DC4...
 


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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition is 
probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a food 
grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that 
you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica added 
to make it thicker.

 

If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these are 
probably the same thing:

 

https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html

 

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.




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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where they 
didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water ingress.  

 

Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as being 
used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.  

 

Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I can 
find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot Grease".  
I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably the stuff, 
but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the O-Rings 
on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever they 
usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not work out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Bill Prince
We're not nerding on O-rings, we're grocking on LUBE

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On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 5:10 PM Adam Moffett  wrote:

> I love how we can all nerd out over O-rings.
>
>
> On 2/12/2019 7:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but petroleum products
> will probably attack the rubber.
>
>
>
> On something like a Ceragon mount where the O ring doesn’t slide over a
> tube but just presses against the other surface, you’d probably be better
> off just going without lube.  Otherwise, you could use the old
> photographer’s trick for filling scratches – nose oil.
>
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_sebum
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF   *On Behalf
> Of *Tim Withrow via AF
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:41 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* Tim Withrow  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?
>
>
>
> It's one of the things I usually forget but always have a vehicle near, so
> I just pulled the dipstick out and get some oil off it.
> --
>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 Steve Jones  wrote:
>
> Vaseline is what i use on my pool
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated
> WD40 and DC4...
>
>
> --
>
> bp
>
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition
> is probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a
> food grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers
> grease that you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably
> has silica added to make it thicker.
>
>
>
> If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these
> are probably the same thing:
>
>
>
>
> https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?
>
>
>
> I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.
>
>
> --
>
> bp
>
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy  wrote:
>
> Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where
> they didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water
> ingress.
>
>
>
> Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am
> struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can
> just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber
> o ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as
> being used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.
>
>
>
> Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I
> can find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot
> Grease".  I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is
> probably the stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it
> contains polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the
> O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of
> whatever they usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that
> did not work out?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Adam Moffett

I love how we can all nerd out over O-rings.


On 2/12/2019 7:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but petroleum 
products will probably attack the rubber.


On something like a Ceragon mount where the O ring doesn’t slide over 
a tube but just presses against the other surface, you’d probably be 
better off just going without lube.  Otherwise, you could use the old 
photographer’s trick for filling scratches – nose oil.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_sebum

*From:*AF  *On Behalf Of *Tim Withrow via AF
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:41 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Cc:* Tim Withrow 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

It's one of the things I usually forget but always have a vehicle 
near, so I just pulled the dipstick out and get some oil off it.




On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 Steve Jones <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> wrote:


Vaseline is what i use on my pool

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably
conflated WD40 and DC4...

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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical
composition is probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as
stiff.  DC111 is basically a food grade lubricant for rubber
valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that you buy at a
hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica
added to make it thicker.

If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I
think these are probably the same thing:


https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html

*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.


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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy
mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have
seen some where they didn't and the O ring cracks apart,
potentially causing water ingress.

Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio
or dish.  I am struggling to find the exact product.  I
have heard people say that you can just use Vaseline, but
the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o ring
within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being
reported as being used, but it will supposedly also melt
the rubber.

Most are recommending Silicone Grease. The only silicone
grease that I can find locally is "100% pure Silicone
Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot Grease".  I figure that
spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably the
stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it
contains polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use
to lube the O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do
not include a tube of whatever they usually include??
Anyone have any stories about things that did not work out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Steve Jones
thats an IV drug users trick for keeping the plunger in the syringe working
too, using nose oil. Our bodies are quite versatile

On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 6:23 AM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but petroleum products
> will probably attack the rubber.
>
>
>
> On something like a Ceragon mount where the O ring doesn’t slide over a
> tube but just presses against the other surface, you’d probably be better
> off just going without lube.  Otherwise, you could use the old
> photographer’s trick for filling scratches – nose oil.
>
>
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_sebum
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Tim Withrow via AF
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:41 AM
> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
> *Cc:* Tim Withrow 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?
>
>
>
> It's one of the things I usually forget but always have a vehicle near, so
> I just pulled the dipstick out and get some oil off it.
> --
>
> On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 Steve Jones  wrote:
>
> Vaseline is what i use on my pool
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
>
> Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated
> WD40 and DC4...
>
>
> --
>
> bp
>
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition
> is probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a
> food grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers
> grease that you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably
> has silica added to make it thicker.
>
>
>
> If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these
> are probably the same thing:
>
>
>
>
> https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?
>
>
>
> I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.
>
>
> --
>
> bp
>
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy  wrote:
>
> Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where
> they didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water
> ingress.
>
>
>
> Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am
> struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can
> just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber
> o ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as
> being used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.
>
>
>
> Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I
> can find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot
> Grease".  I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is
> probably the stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it
> contains polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the
> O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of
> whatever they usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that
> did not work out?
>
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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread chuck
And there are bunch of different types of materials used for O rings.  
Viton
Nitrile
Neoprene
Silicone
EPR
PTFE
Polyurethane
Rubber

I would stick with silicon grease.  DC-4 is good stuff.  I would never use a 
petroleum product on an O ring or a condom.  

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:22 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but petroleum products will 
probably attack the rubber.

 

On something like a Ceragon mount where the O ring doesn’t slide over a tube 
but just presses against the other surface, you’d probably be better off just 
going without lube.  Otherwise, you could use the old photographer’s trick for 
filling scratches – nose oil.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_sebum

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Tim Withrow via AF
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:41 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Tim Withrow 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

It's one of the things I usually forget but always have a vehicle near, so I 
just pulled the dipstick out and get some oil off it.




On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 Steve Jones  wrote:

Vaseline is what i use on my pool 

 

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

  Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated WD40 
and DC4...
   


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  On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition 
is probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a food 
grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that 
you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica added 
to make it thicker.

 

If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these are 
probably the same thing:

 


https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.




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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy  wrote:

  Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some 
where they didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water 
ingress.  

   

  Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as being 
used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.  

   

  Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I 
can find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot 
Grease".  I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably 
the stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

   

  Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the 
O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever 
they usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not work 
out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m not sure if you guys are kidding or serious, but petroleum products will 
probably attack the rubber.

 

On something like a Ceragon mount where the O ring doesn’t slide over a tube 
but just presses against the other surface, you’d probably be better off just 
going without lube.  Otherwise, you could use the old photographer’s trick for 
filling scratches – nose oil.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasal_sebum

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Tim Withrow via AF
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 5:41 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Cc: Tim Withrow 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

It's one of the things I usually forget but always have a vehicle near, so I 
just pulled the dipstick out and get some oil off it.

  _  

On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 Steve Jones mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > wrote:

Vaseline is what i use on my pool 

 

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated WD40 
and DC4...
 


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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition is 
probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a food 
grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that 
you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica added 
to make it thicker.

 

If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these are 
probably the same thing:

 

https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html

 

 

 

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.




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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where they 
didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water ingress.  

 

Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as being 
used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.  

 

Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I can 
find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot Grease".  
I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably the stuff, 
but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the O-Rings 
on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever they 
usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not work out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-12 Thread Tim Withrow via AF

It's one of the things I usually forget but always have a vehicle near, so I 
just pulled the dipstick out and get some oil off it.
On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 Steve Jones  wrote:
Vaseline is what i use on my pool 
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated WD40 
and DC4...
 
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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:


I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition is 
probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a food 
grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that 
you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica added 
to make it thicker.

 

If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these are 
probably the same thing:

 

https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.




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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy  wrote:


Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where they 
didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water ingress.  

 

Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as being 
used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.  

 

Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I can 
find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot Grease".  
I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably the stuff, 
but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the O-Rings 
on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever they 
usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not work out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-11 Thread Carl Peterson
I use chapstick. 

> On Feb 11, 2019, at 7:45 PM, Charles Raber  wrote:
> 
> Use plumbers’ grease or keg lube It’s cheap and meant for rubber, plastic and 
> metal parts. Petroleum based products will cause issues with plastic/rubber 
> over time. I suspect dielectric grease would still be cheaper.
>  
> Charles Raber
> Network Administrator
> Triad Wireless 
> 
> 4226 South 37th Street Phoenix, AZ 85040
> Office (602)426-0542x108
> Email:cra...@triadwireless.net
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:19 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?
>  
> Vaseline is what i use on my pool 
>  
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince  wrote:
> Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated WD40 
> and DC4...
>  
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>  
>  
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition is 
> probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a food 
> grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that 
> you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica 
> added to make it thicker.
>  
> If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these are 
> probably the same thing:
>  
> https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html
>  
>  
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?
>  
> I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.
> 
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>  
>  
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy  wrote:
> Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where 
> they didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water ingress.  
>  
> Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
> struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
> just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
> ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as 
> being used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.  
>  
> Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I can 
> find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot Grease". 
>  I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably the 
> stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
> polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.
>  
> Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the 
> O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever 
> they usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not 
> work out?
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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-11 Thread Charles Raber
Use plumbers’ grease or keg lube It’s cheap and meant for rubber, plastic and 
metal parts. Petroleum based products will cause issues with plastic/rubber 
over time. I suspect dielectric grease would still be cheaper.

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Network Administrator
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Office (602)426-0542x108
Email:cra...@triadwireless.net<mailto:cra...@triadwireless.net>

From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:19 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

Vaseline is what i use on my pool

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated WD40 
and DC4...

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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition is 
probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a food 
grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that 
you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica added 
to make it thicker.

If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these are 
probably the same thing:

https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html



From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of 
Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.

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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy 
mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where they 
didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water ingress.

Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as being 
used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.

Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I can 
find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot Grease".  
I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably the stuff, 
but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the O-Rings 
on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever they 
usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not work out?
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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-11 Thread Steve Jones
Vaseline is what i use on my pool

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 3:36 PM Bill Prince  wrote:

> Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated
> WD40 and DC4...
>
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>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical
>> composition is probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is
>> basically a food grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that
>> plumbers grease that you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111
>> probably has silica added to make it thicker.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these
>> are probably the same thing:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?
>>
>>
>>
>> I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> bp
>>
>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy  wrote:
>>
>> Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some
>> where they didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water
>> ingress.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am
>> struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can
>> just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber
>> o ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as
>> being used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.
>>
>>
>>
>> Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I
>> can find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot
>> Grease".  I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is
>> probably the stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it
>> contains polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.
>>
>>
>>
>> Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the
>> O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of
>> whatever they usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that
>> did not work out?
>>
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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-10 Thread Bill Prince
Yeah. That was probably my brain aneurysm acting up. Probably conflated
WD40 and DC4...

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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 12:30 PM Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition
> is probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a
> food grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers
> grease that you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably
> has silica added to make it thicker.
>
>
>
> If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these
> are probably the same thing:
>
>
>
>
> https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* AF  *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?
>
>
>
> I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.
>
>
> --
>
> bp
>
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy  wrote:
>
> Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where
> they didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water
> ingress.
>
>
>
> Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am
> struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can
> just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber
> o ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as
> being used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.
>
>
>
> Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I
> can find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot
> Grease".  I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is
> probably the stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it
> contains polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the
> O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of
> whatever they usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that
> did not work out?
>
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2019-02-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think you mean DC4 which is dielectric grease.  The chemical composition is 
probably similar to DC111 but it isn’t as stiff.  DC111 is basically a food 
grade lubricant for rubber valve rings.  I suspect that plumbers grease that 
you buy at a hardware store is similar stuff.  DC111 probably has silica added 
to make it thicker.

 

If you like the single use packets instead of 5 oz tubes, I think these are 
probably the same thing:

 

https://pilotshq.com/dow-corning-molykote-111-oringvalve-lubricant-6gm-dc111-6gm-p-18024.html

 

 

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:39 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.




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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where they 
didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water ingress.  

 

Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as being 
used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.  

 

Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I can 
find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot Grease".  
I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably the stuff, 
but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the O-Rings 
on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever they 
usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not work out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-10 Thread Ken Hohhof
Dow Corning DC111.

 

From: AF  On Behalf Of Jeremy
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 12:11 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

 

Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where they 
didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water ingress.  

 

Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am 
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can 
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber o 
ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as being 
used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.  

 

Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I can 
find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot Grease".  
I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is probably the stuff, 
but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it contains 
polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

 

Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the O-Rings 
on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of whatever they 
usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that did not work out?

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Re: [AFMUG] Lube for Backhaul O-rings?

2019-02-10 Thread Bill Prince
I always used DC-40. I bought it at the airplane shop.

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On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 10:12 AM Jeremy  wrote:

> Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where
> they didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water
> ingress.
>
> Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am
> struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can
> just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber
> o ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as
> being used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.
>
> Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I
> can find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot
> Grease".  I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is
> probably the stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it
> contains polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.
>
> Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the
> O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of
> whatever they usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that
> did not work out?
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2019-02-10 Thread Jeremy
Do you lube the O rings on your licensed antennas?  I have seen some where
they didn't and the O ring cracks apart, potentially causing water
ingress.

Most of the big names include a small pack with the radio or dish.  I am
struggling to find the exact product.  I have heard people say that you can
just use Vaseline, but the Internet says the petroleum will eat the rubber
o ring within about a year.  I see dielectric grease also being reported as
being used, but it will supposedly also melt the rubber.

Most are recommending Silicone Grease.  The only silicone grease that I can
find locally is "100% pure Silicone Grease" that is "Spark Plug Boot
Grease".  I figure that spark plugs boots are also rubber so this is
probably the stuff, but it is also listed as being dielectric, and it
contains polydimethylsiloxane whatever that is.

Does anyone have any recommendations for what I should use to lube the
O-Rings on my licensed backhauls when they do not include a tube of
whatever they usually include??  Anyone have any stories about things that
did not work out?
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