Re: [AFMUG] How frequently have you had a price increase?

2014-10-05 Thread timothy steele via Af
768k for video stream? I thought that would only do the lowest quality Netflix and that's talking 5 years ago — Sent from Mailbox On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 11:32 PM, David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: We had no choice after deploying the 450 and offering up a handful of capacity for a

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet

2014-10-05 Thread Eric Muehleisen via Af
Who said Macs were immune? 17k is hardly cause for panic. What is that, less than 1% affected? On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: So much for the belief that Macs are immune to malware. http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/10/reddit-powered-botnet-infected-

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet

2014-10-05 Thread Daniel White via Af
Apple http://youtu.be/Dme81JEnoqw Sure it says Viruses instead of Botnet… but to an uninformed consumer all of that stuff is the same isn’t it (and I’m really talking about anyone outside the IT/Telecommunications industry without the tech background). Daniel White | Managing

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet

2014-10-05 Thread Paul Stewart via Af
Yeah probably not even 1% … Mac’s are no more immune than Linux is … speaking of, I’m amazed by how many linux admin’s don’t keep their systems patched. That number is hacked linux servers is way way higher than 1% I would be confident….. Paul From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 6 gauge grounding wire and ends

2014-10-05 Thread Jaime Solorza via Af
The Andrew grounding kits usually have a few extras in parts bag. Greybar carries stuff as well Jaime Solorza On Oct 3, 2014 7:41 PM, David Milholen via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Any electrical warehouse should have it. Greybar,Irby, wholesale elec On 10/3/2014 2:22 PM, Josh Luthman via Af

Re: [AFMUG] How frequently have you had a price increase?

2014-10-05 Thread Jeremy via Af
We have Jab in our area too but our prices are $10.00 less than that with no fine print. ;) It is working very well for us so far. On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Everyone seems to expect our prices will go down, it’s the Internet after all, everything

Re: [AFMUG] valuing a pay increase

2014-10-05 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller via Af
I would think Jab qualifies as one of those larger companies that Ken referenced. Speaking from running a small company, those other metrics make a lot of sense. * would the company fall apart without having you there? * could we hire someone to replace you in a few weeks? (recently happened)

Re: [AFMUG] Enclosure with Rack (Bison Profab - Quotation #10928)

2014-10-05 Thread Darin Steffl via Af
Hey Matt, Did you get these enclosures ordered at all and have pictures? What do you think? Are they the best priced you could find the those dimensions? I'm looking as well and everything seems so expensive. On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: Here

Re: [AFMUG] update an old ubuntu server

2014-10-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke via Af
I don't see what processor has to do with it, a bare Debian 7.x CLI-only install will run just a well on an old system as an ancient version of Debian I have several virtual machines with debian and relatively restricted CPU power, only 128MB or 256MB of RAM, serving as nameservers. Runs

Re: [AFMUG] update an old ubuntu server

2014-10-05 Thread David Milholen via Af
Take a look at this https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/i386/ch02s01.html.en Other Os's have similar pages. I prefer debian for my DNS systems because there isnt much bloated front end apps that get auto loaded with a downloaded image. Also, I find it easier to tailor for specifics for the

Re: [AFMUG] How frequently have you had a price increase?

2014-10-05 Thread Travis Johnson via Af
Wow... you are in a very noncompetitve market. My surrounding area has CableOne (even into the small communities of 500 people) and they are doing 50Mbps x 10Mbps for $35/month for the first 6 months, then it goes up to $50/month. Most people claim to get 30-40Mbps any time they run a speed

Re: [AFMUG] update an old ubuntu server

2014-10-05 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
That’s very surprising. My experience is pretty much any Linux distribution on pretty much any hardware can easily run a DNS server and the CPU won’t break a sweat, also a DNS server should not care much about HDD capacity/performance since most operations will be RAM based. I have 10 year

Re: [AFMUG] How frequently have you had a price increase?

2014-10-05 Thread Tyler Treat via Af
Agreed.Dreamlike. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Oct 5, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Travis Johnson via Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet

2014-10-05 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Maybe, but those home routers are just as easily exploited and are hard-wired. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/05/2014 06:53 AM, Ken Hohhof via Af wrote: Something I’m not sure ISPs have faced up to, is that home PCs are

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
The ctm2 covers most of this Sent from Marconi's and Graham Bell's fused thoughts!!! On Oct 5, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Our infrastructure sites look like this: Shielded Cables - 8 or 24port shielded patch panel - APC PRM24 with WB Surge Modules - PoE

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread TJ Trout via Af
I would really like to see a installation device that has a LCD and speaker and headphone jack, has it's own internal lithium battery with poe output AND lan port for a laptop, can speak SNMP or http or whatever with Ubiquiti and Canopy/Epmp and allows you to do basic configuration in the field

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Darin Steffl via Af
Love the sounds of it but we wouldn't be able to eat the cost for every new customers because right now, it is easy enough for us to run speedtests through our CPE antenna on the roof. After that, we can at least see if the router is negotiating at 100mb or 10mb which would indicate a wiring

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread TJ Trout via Af
I would love to find a router that has poe output and all of the diagnostic features you mentioned. It would be nice if the customer could just look at the router to see the status of the connection up down or otherwise. On Oct 5, 2014 2:13 PM, Chris Fabien via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'd say you

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
I guess the other question I should have asked is If $75 isn't doable, what price target do I have to meet to make it doable?. I don't have a straightforward way to get below the $75 price today, but I don't really even have a idea what the ideal target price would be. I've also considered

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Keefe John via Af
The only way to make this price doable is if it is a router too like Netonix's new device. Keefe On 10/5/2014 4:08 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote: Following up on the previous email about product ideas, I have an idea for a product which at least I think would be really

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
That's sort of the thought process I was headed towards. With my preference to not entering that already way too crowded market. There are already three vendors that I know of in that space, and I don't feel like trying to compete with the vendors that have way more volume than I could attain.

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
That was one of the three vendors that I was counting when I said there were already three vendors I know of in that space. On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Why not use a Mikrotik router with the POE out option ? *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) via Af
Aw cool, the 2-relay/3-switch module! That complements the 3-shunt/3-volt module perfectly for the Traco DC-UPS setup. I always prefer to have medium and larger site's power, PoE and switch/router equipment modular. Just easier to replace a failed component than the entire thing. But for

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Chuck McCown via Af
How about an all-in-one tower device which includes some mixture of ac power supply, dc-dc conversion, battery charging/management, Ethernet switch, router, power injection with fiber conversion. Seriously, I would think that if you adopted some of features RMS has that you do not have it

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread timothy steele via Af
Somthing easy to make that gets asked for on the list I noticed would be a POE Y cable that would allow you to put 2 radios on a customers house/tower with only 1 cable going into the house — Sent from Mailbox On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote: How about

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
Hmm.. your first suggestion sounds oddly familar. Some of the next two are in the works. Nothing ready to announce in this public of forum. But think tower-side control. And more i/o types. The last four... well, now those would be popular, wouldn't they? On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:51 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Forrest, That item at the bottom of your list -- Netonix is working on something like that as well, after their shed/top-tower product. Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/05/2014 12:19 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account)

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
How would this work? You mean something like a 3 port ethernet switch? I.E. for a radio and a AP? Trying to understand the use and logic here... -forrest On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:06 PM, timothy steele via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Somthing easy to make that gets asked for on the list I noticed

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Honestly, a RB2011 fills that niche pretty well. Lock the LCD to display only WAN bandwidth, and disable the touchscreen. Techs can log into the RB2011 with the admin credentials and check on the wireless clients, interface errors, run speed tests (tcp) to the headend of your network, etc.

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Mark Radabaugh via Af
I'm still looking for a rugged portable rechargeable power supply with a built in speaker and wifi AP for the installers to use to power and aim CPE. We cobble stuff up with rechargeable flashlights and electrical tape.  It's not pretty.   I would buy multiple units if the price is $200.

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Mac based botnet

2014-10-05 Thread Chuck Hogg via Af
I've yet to see this on outgoing. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote: Yeah, I’m just saying ISPs that provide 25M, 100M, 1000M connections to the home, especially symmetric ones, will need plans to deal with customers who are maxing out

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread timothy steele via Af
No switching needed DIY would be to use 3 wire scotch locks on all wires at the top then you would have 2 ends at top and 1 end at bottom as I'm typing this I'm realizing the issues doing it that way but you can figure it out I'm sure.. — Sent from Mailbox On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Mark

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
The problem is that 10/100+Passive PoE needs all 8 wires, typically - 2 pairs for data + 2 pairs for power. So simple splitting isn't going to get you very far. You could probably put an adapter both ends and do some sort of 10/100+PoE on 2 pair and convert it back to 4 pair. But then you're

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
This might be doable. My main concern is where to set the cost so that (quantity sold) * (price per unit) (cost to develop and manufacture said quantity). Or if that condition is even achievable. Are you envisioning the audio to come from the radio ... I.E. on canopy plug into that second

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread That One Guy via Af
then youre already putting in 5-20 dollars worth of cable, 20-35 dollars in surge protection. 5-15 dollars in mounting hardware in incidental costs aside from the CPE there isnt really much breathing room for residential 29-39 dollar connections. Especially in cases like us who eat the CPE cost.

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Gino Villarini via Af
What radio needs 150w? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: Sunday, October 5, 2014 at

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Hungry ones? :) Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com On 10/05/2014 03:55 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote: What radio needs 150w? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From:

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
There are some licensed ones out there which approach that. But generally they're not powered via PoE. The highest I can point to quickly is in the 80W category for single radio configurations. I swear I've seen one at 110W, but most of the licensed units I'm looking at quickly are around 80W.

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread TJ Trout via Af
Forrest, If the device was really really nice, had everything I talked about and maybe even wifi AP I would buy a few @ $500, $250 is more where I think it would be plausible. We would buy maybe 5 @ 250, obviously not a high volume thing. Updates, free would be nice but I wouldn't mind spending

Re: [AFMUG] PacketFlux Product Ideas

2014-10-05 Thread TJ Trout via Af
I would be interested in a device that's wall mount or tower mount that's a 3 or 4 port poe powered, poe pass thru ethernet switch, bonus for selectable polarity output. Double bonus for gigabit! On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:10 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Forrest, If the device was

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Carlos Alcantar via Af
I’ve always had a grip about a device of this type. We run a wireless company as well as a fttx company and the one thing I can say about the fttx (goon) vendors is they gave done a really good job about giving the ONT’s really great intelligence , I wish the wireless vendors would take a page

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
I'm assuming you mean the original idea, not the idea presented in the message you replied to ;) Yes, it occured to me that this might be a business-install type of product where you're more worried about uptime and availability instead of every penny of cost. Do you have any idea how many

[AFMUG] Centurylink transport costs

2014-10-05 Thread Darin Steffl via Af
Does anyone have transport through Centurylink at all? Not internet but just transport to a datacenter to pick up bandwidth. I have a bandwidth broker checking pricing for me but he believes we can get 1Gbps of transport for $1,500-1,800 on a 3-year contract. Anyone else use them and have pricing