Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Paul McCall
We drill a tiny hole so water doesn’t build up in the leg. So I am clear though, you are saying the legs split when they fill up with water AND then freeze? Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 11:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Link Planner

2015-06-15 Thread David
Lewis, check to see if there is ptp500 still listed. The 400 and 500 share similar radio traits. I would think as far as validating to see if there is LOS or clipping of the Fresnel and some performance measures could be confirmed. On 06/15/2015 08:00 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: I have a need

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
I think he knows that. He was asking what happens if it does I believe. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Water isn't supposed to stand in the legs. The legs are supposed to be into a sand and gravel mix a few inches below where the concrete starts.

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
That is correct. Water standing in your tower leg will end up rusting the inside of the legs but that seems to be less an issue than splitting after a freeze. The galv on a R25G type tower is not a very high quality as they are price sensitive. When exposed to harsher conditions they will rust. If

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Water isn't supposed to stand in the legs. The legs are supposed to be into a sand and gravel mix a few inches below where the concrete starts. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com -

[AFMUG] Link Planner

2015-06-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
I have a need for a 16.5 mile shot and was considering a used PTP400 as I only need about 1Mbs up/dn. When I looked at the linkplanner tool they don't list the PTP400 as a supported product. Can someone verify that it does not have the older lines so I don't have to install something I don't have

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Yes. Water expands when it freezes. We see this on maybe 50% of customer TV towers we encounter, anywhere from the ground to about 5 feet off the ground. Vertical split in the leg a couple inches long. From: Paul McCall Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 6:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
The small hole, as long as it isn't plugged with spiders or something. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I heard this only recently on the list. I inherited this business in 2000 and that’s just how we did it… legs in concrete and small hole right above

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Paul McCall
No basements in Florida ☺ I took over a Bellsouth long line tower that has a poured concrete wall basement and its full of water ☺ Its not necessarily the right thing to do, but we usually use “bottom pieces” or “starter pieces”, meaning we acquired a piece of tower, or cut one off, where

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
And I would be very surprised to find a sealed hollow leg tower. Galvanizers do not like to galvanize hollow things due to trapped pockets of water that can cause steam explosions. So either it has to have holes for the zinc to flow out or it has to be solid. From: Lewis Bergman Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Paul McCall
Scratching my head…. WHEN does it do that other than Freezing water, which we never get? We do hit water at 2ft. to 2.5 ft of digging, so keeping out of water would be a challenge ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:22 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Holy jeeze!! simon gave a project feature timeline? did hell freeze over? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Alright, carrier grade time machine coming 2016! On Jun 14, 2015 10:16 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Oh, bad

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
rohn spec installation in most cases is a particular concrete base size with the bottom of the legs something like 3 inches into a gravel like pea gravel. Youre only issue down there would be rust and alligators On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't imagine splitting from freezing would be an issue where you are... I suspect rust would be a more likely symptom if they were filling with water. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I heard this only recently on the list. I inherited this business in

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
No, but we aren’t supposed to use the Internet for more than 4 hours. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here? Maybe that's something you older folks have to worry about? - Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Funny guy Jaime Solorza On Jun 15, 2015 8:59 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Maybe that's something you older folks have to worry about? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Why do we have to wait until 2016? can't you just bring one back to now once you get it working? Since you we can't already buy one, I have to assume it doesn't work... you might as well just give up on it. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:46 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Maybe that's something you older folks have to worry about? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com To: Animal Farm

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
If you are really worried about it, use solid leg towers like the STG from Trylon, or one of the other manufacturers. Anything you do to seal up the hollow legs will result in rust forming. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: No basements in Florida J I took

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
I assume houses in your area do not have basements? Maybe we should put Zerk fittings on tower legs and then pump the bottom section full of grease or foam. 45GSR would not have that problem, I wonder if you could use a 45GSR bottom section and then regular 45G for the rest, assuming water

Re: [AFMUG] anybody using a safety climb system on their Rohn 25G , Rohn 45G towers?

2015-06-15 Thread Bill Prince
Have them on at least a couple towers, but not on 25G. Sure speeds up the climbs. I like them. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/14/2015 6:37 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Something like this? http://www.3starinc.com/manuals/ROHN_TT_WIRE_KIT.pdf

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Better yet..use Rohn hinged tower base. Eaisier to erect Jaime Solorza On Jun 15, 2015 8:53 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I assume houses in your area do not have basements? Maybe we should put Zerk fittings on tower legs and then pump the bottom section full of grease or foam.

Re: [AFMUG] eptp 5ghz backhaul dish options.

2015-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
The easiest thing to mount an ePMP to would probably be a UBNT dish - RF Elements makes a spiffy little adapter that lets you snap an ePMP right into a Rocket's mount. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Look to Jirous. - Mike Hammett Intelligent

[AFMUG] eptp 5ghz backhaul dish options.

2015-06-15 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Wondering if anyone has used any of the microtik 30db dishes with the ePTP units and how mounting went and if there was any real issues? We are looking to deploy 10 units next month and I want a 2 foot dish with a radome on the links. The force 110 dishes would be fine for these links but I don't

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Travis Johnson
As far as you know... On 6/15/2015 6:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: What's Google really going to do? Nothing On Jun 15, 2015 3:26 PM, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com mailto:rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote: I figure it's either gonna be Google, the NSA, or both. Privacy is dead.

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I have a sister that lives in Florida. Define “fresh” water... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:44 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here? But from what Paul says, the water table is only down a couple feet! (Californians, eat your hearts

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Connectorized w/ IT Elite cPAT24019dual?

2015-06-15 Thread Christopher Gray
I wanted to clarify, are you suggesting ePMP on 5.1 gets better foliage penetration than ePMP on 2.4 overall, or just when using IT Elite antennas? I've been debating whether to install ePMP using both bands or even just 2.4 in a new high-foliage area, but have limited experience with ePMP. My

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Bill Prince
That is the sum total through all of my email accounts. Some are IMAP; some are POP. One of the bigger ones is on a yahoo account that was started back in ~~ 1994 (or about there). It has been POP from the get-go, and I've never changed it. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/15/2015 9:25 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
hey that's a cool bumper sticker or t-shirt logo ...I hereby patented it June 15, 2015 year of the contact.. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: When you have a time machine, it's easy to meet your

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Josh Luthman
My Gmail is getting full =( 21.16 GB (70%) of 30 GB used Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: I think my exchange mailbox is around 25 gig “J hahehhee.

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Bill Prince
That movie gave me a headache. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/15/2015 11:19 AM, Chuck Macenski wrote: I think we all need to watch the movie Primer on Netflix to better understand all of the trade offs regarding time travel. It is more complicated than it appears. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Patrick Leary
If you've ever kayaked Rainbow River or any number of glass clear rivers that bubble up from aquifers in central and northern FL you'd never say that. Clearer and cleaner than snow melt. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 [cid:image001.png@01D0A776.70C56AB0]http://mkt2.us/TelrdNet From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
Kill Sarah Connor. From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter You can always come back and feed key information to your past self. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/15/2015 10:09 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Lewis Bergman
There is a youtube video that tries to explain living in the tenth dimension to people like me. Seems as close to understanding what being God is like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA Part one of two. If you start at the 5th dimension you could watch them in any order you like and it

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Cameron Crum
Do you mean, what if you went back in time and changed something so that you never would create the machine in the first place so that you could have never gone back in time to change the original condition? Didn't you already do that? On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Simon Westlake

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck Macenski
I think we all need to watch the movie Primer on Netflix to better understand all of the trade offs regarding time travel. It is more complicated than it appears. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: You can always come back and feed key information to your

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Tesla rules..Edison drools Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com wrote: I think we all need to watch the movie Primer on Netflix to better understand all of the trade offs regarding time travel. It is more

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I remember trying to satisfy a EE professor that had asked a question: “What is real time”? this was in relationship to real time programs (as opposed to batch processing). We discovered the question has no answer. From: Chuck Macenski Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:19 PM To: af@afmug.com

[AFMUG] Border Patrol Drones

2015-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
The drones used by CBP can be controlled up 1000 miles from base. Wonder what they use for that? Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Border Patrol Drones

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Satellite. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:36 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Border Patrol Drones The drones used by CBP can be controlled up 1000 miles from base. Wonder what they use for that? Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Border Patrol Drones

2015-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
These are controlled and provide real time video feeds Jaime Solorza On Jun 15, 2015 12:45 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: The drones they're using in Afghanistan are semi-autonomous. They don't actually fly them in the literal sense. That is ~~ 12,000 miles away (that's a guess).

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Simon Westlake
No, I meant if I never finish it in the first place, I won't have it in the future to come back and change the original condition. But if I make it, and then go back in time to prevent myself from making it, can I use the time machine I used to travel back to prevent myself from making it to

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Would be interesting to be able to go back and kill certain individuals throughout history and observe the effect. But you would be creating a whole new timeline each time you did it. I guess that is like having many copies of the same thing on your hard disk. How large is our hard disk?

Re: [AFMUG] Border Patrol Drones

2015-06-15 Thread Bill Prince
The drones they're using in Afghanistan are semi-autonomous. They don't actually fly them in the literal sense. That is ~~ 12,000 miles away (that's a guess). bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/15/2015 11:36 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: The drones used by CBP can be controlled up 1000 miles

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Simon Westlake
But what if I never create it in the first place? On 6/15/2015 1:06 PM, Bill Prince wrote: You can always come back and feed key information to your past self. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/15/2015 10:09 AM, Simon Westlake wrote: But if I don't keep working on it, it will never exist in

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Watch out for the lectroids from planet 10 in the 8th dimension... On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: There is a youtube video that tries to explain living in the tenth dimension to people like me. Seems as close to understanding what being God is

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Cameron Crum
Nope. That's why I think you already did it. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: No, I meant if I never finish it in the first place, I won't have it in the future to come back and change the original condition. But if I make it, and then

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Paul McCall
Maybe Simon and Daniel are going to work for Hilary ? /ducking at the poor topic commentary to come perhaps ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
them Trylons are heavy...crane time Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: That small hole prevents rusting in the visible/inspectable section but if the concrete doesn't let water go down the water may

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Cameron Crum
What you don't realize is that he already has the time machine. Then he can set an arbitrary release date all the while changing all of history to his advantage. Is what you think you know, really what you know? How do you know? On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Sean Heskett
I would use the pier pin base instead of sinking a base section in concrete with a water table like that. On Monday, June 15, 2015, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Yeah, that’s the consideration. If the tower section is down 2.5” (below the 2ft. of concrete mark) it will be in water most

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
So once again, which one is Simon? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:13 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter hey that's a cool bumper sticker or t-shirt logo ...I hereby patented it June 15, 2015 year of the contact.. Jaime

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Bill Prince
I have something like 30GB of email bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/14/2015 3:36 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: yes, i agree. and if you DID leave messages your box wasn't any larger than 2 gig. well he's at 1.8 gig, i guess he was close - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, out here fresh water is something you can drink for the most part. From: Paul McCall Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here? Most of us describe fresh water here as brackish… with the exception of some natural

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Simon Westlake
But if I don't keep working on it, it will never exist in the future! On 6/15/2015 10:52 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Why do we have to wait until 2016? can't you just bring one back to now once you get it working? Since you we can't already buy one, I have to assume it doesn't work... you might

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Simon Westlake
Steve, that's a great question and I am here to tell you that hell has, in fact, frozen over. On 6/15/2015 10:46 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Holy jeeze!! simon gave a project feature timeline? did hell freeze over? On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Simon Westlake

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Paul McCall
Not so much here… only from the springs…. The fresh water rivers look more like root beer ☺ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here? Yeah, out here fresh

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Simon Westlake
I'm the box. On 6/15/2015 12:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: So once again, which one is Simon? time_machine *From:* Jaime Solorza mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2015 12:13 PM *To:* Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Paul McCall
Most of us describe fresh water here as brackish… with the exception of some natural spring fed lakes and streams… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here? I

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Paul McCall
Yeah, that’s the consideration. If the tower section is down 2.5” (below the 2ft. of concrete mark) it will be in water most of the time. Not sure anything would actually drain out. They say water seeks its own level but just am not sure. I was just thinking… we took down a 100ft. Rohn 45G

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Cameron Crum
When you have a time machine, it's easy to meet your deadlines... On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: well if they worked for Jeb Bush they would be fired within a week like most on his staff. sas Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
well if they worked for Jeb Bush they would be fired within a week like most on his staff. sas Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: Maybe Simon and Daniel are going to work for Hilary ? /ducking at the

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Simon Westlake
The timing is awfully suspect.. On 6/15/2015 12:06 PM, Paul McCall wrote: Maybe Simon and Daniel are going to work for Hilary ? /ducking at the poor topic commentary to come perhaps J *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm *Sent:* Monday, June 15,

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Colin Stanners
That small hole prevents rusting in the visible/inspectable section but if the concrete doesn't let water go down the water may rust the invisible underground section... On Jun 15, 2015 8:03 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: I heard this only recently on the list. I inherited this

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Ken Hohhof
More likely you will travel forward to the zombie apocalypse, and the zombies will smash your time machine and eat your brains, so you won’t be coming back. (Or the Morlocks will drag your time machine inside the mountain.) From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 2:14 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
We are all gonna die, the sun will burn out... does it really matter? From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun I'm honestly surprised you guys are OK with Google reading all your email... Travis On 6/15/2015 1:21

Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here?

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Doesn’t look that bad. If you block part of the first fresnel zone you can actually end up with more signal. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Do you want to see this stuff here? here's the path profile. as you can see the hill is

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Bill Prince
I love temporal anomalies. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/15/2015 12:13 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: only if you give it to yourself before you prevent yourself from making it. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com

[AFMUG] mass pwd change to Canopy

2015-06-15 Thread Gino Villarini
Any tools available? Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 [cid:aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png]

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Travis Johnson
I'm honestly surprised you guys are OK with Google reading all your email... Travis On 6/15/2015 1:21 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: Mine isn't so bad: 8.88 GB(7%) of115 GBused Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 06/15/2015 09:57 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: My Gmail is getting full =(

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
but... they'll know everything!!! On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: We are all gonna die, the sun will burn out... does it really matter? *From:* Travis Johnson t...@ida.net *Sent:* Monday, June 15, 2015 1:45 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] mass pwd change to Canopy

2015-06-15 Thread Gabriel Pike
I always did it the hard way and used an expect script. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:48 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass pwd change to Canopy SNMP is best way … I think going by memory that wireless manager can

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Rory McCann
I figure it's either gonna be Google, the NSA, or both. Privacy is dead. Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net On 6/15/2015 2:53 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: but... they'll know everything!!! On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
I love being late for meetings. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Chuck Macenski ch...@macenski.com wrote: Hey, that sounds a lot like corporate speak for I am late for a meeting :) On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: I love temporal anomalies. bp

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Mine isn't so bad: 8.88 GB(7%) of115 GBused Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 06/15/2015 09:57 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: My Gmail is getting full =( 21.16 GB (70%) of 30 GB used Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Jaime Solorza
Watch American Genius Gates vs Jobs on NatGeo and you will time travel Jaime Solorza On Jun 15, 2015 1:14 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: I love temporal anomalies. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/15/2015 12:13 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: only if you give it to yourself

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
or you'll just like the Morlocks so much that you'll want to stay there and join them... either way, you won't be coming back. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: More likely you will travel forward to the zombie apocalypse, and the zombies will smash your time

Re: [AFMUG] mass pwd change to Canopy

2015-06-15 Thread Sean Heskett
prizm can i think CNUT might be able to snmp can if you want to write a script. -sean On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Any tools available? *Gino Villarini* President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] mass pwd change to Canopy

2015-06-15 Thread Paul Stewart
SNMP is best way … I think going by memory that wireless manager can do it too if you happen to have it running … From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mass pwd change to Canopy prizm can

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
only if you give it to yourself before you prevent yourself from making it. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: No, I meant if I never finish it in the first place, I won't have it in the future to come back and change the original

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Chuck Macenski
Hey, that sounds a lot like corporate speak for I am late for a meeting :) On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: I love temporal anomalies. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/15/2015 12:13 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: only if you give it to yourself before

Re: [AFMUG] eptp 5ghz backhaul dish options.

2015-06-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Look to Jirous. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:36:17 PM

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Mike Hammett
It doesn't really bother me, but I just prefer to have my own mail environment. It makes me happy to control my own destiny. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Blackmail you, obviously. :P If Google really wants to read my email, good for them. I hope they find it entertaining. On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: What's Google really going to do? Nothing On Jun 15, 2015 3:26 PM, Rory McCann

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Daniel White
Not another Star Trek reboot… Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 2:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Would be interesting to be able to go back and kill

[AFMUG] Etherant 3 username and password?

2015-06-15 Thread Sam Lambie
Talk about a blast from the past. I was upgrading a ubiquiti and it appears that we have an antenna IP conflict. I got a password prompt for 'Nova Which I remember to be Etherants. Anyone remember the password? I am not talking about Terabeam configurator password BTW. Sam -- -- *Sam Lambie*

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Daniel White
You don’t want me involved in Politics lol Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter Maybe Simon and Daniel are going to work

Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White Resignation Letter

2015-06-15 Thread Daniel White
Only on this list would an email like this turn into a topic like that :-) Hotel California baby! Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF: Daniel White

Re: [AFMUG] today's consulting fun

2015-06-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
What's Google really going to do? Nothing On Jun 15, 2015 3:26 PM, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote: I figure it's either gonna be Google, the NSA, or both. Privacy is dead. Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net On 6/15/2015 2:53 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: but...