Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Nate Burke
Or is it the area right by the LED's? On 9/9/2015 8:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: The connector is hot? That can’t be right. *From:* Josh Baird *Sent:* Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:43 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot? We

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
It's in a rural backwoods area but fiber is right beside it and we can feed from our existing network -Original Message- From: "Lewis Bergman" Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 8:50 AM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question Those

[AFMUG] ARIN\NANOG

2015-09-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Who else is going to ARIN\NANOG in Montreal next month? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
2-force 110 dishes -Original Message- From: "Lewis Bergman" Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 8:40 AM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question Depends on what you are putting up there. Is that per antenna, line, both? what sizes?

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Those are 1 foot each right? That doesn't sound out of line if it isn't completely in the middle of nowhere. If it is, maybe $2 a foot. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > 2-force 110 dishes > -- > From: Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown
OK, there are some half watt resistors in that area. When running at 55 volts limiting current for the LEDs they do get hot. Their temp depends on system voltage. I had hard to make the LEDs usable for a range of 6-60 volts without some tradeoff. As long as the large chip isn’t getting

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-09 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
First of all... "just because a large provider is doing s" it does not make it correct or best practice. and don't assume that just because they are a 'large network' they are setup following best practices... Ideally, you want to keep your Area 0 manageable... it is a relative term... think

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/8/15 6:27 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 32 megs? Wow... A Cisco 2501 had half that with a 20MHz processor. There was even a model with an ISDN interface to back up your two sync serial interfaces. Two T1's baby, all the speed you could need in the 90's. ~Seth

[AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Baird
We just installed our first GIGE-POE-APC which is powering an AF24, and noticed that it gets VERY hot. So hot that it almost instantly burns your finger when you touch the green molding. For folks that have these installed, is this normal? It's ran fine for a few days, but this morning we we

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
The connector is hot? That can’t be right. From: Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot? We just installed our first GIGE-POE-APC which is powering an AF24, and noticed that it gets VERY hot. So hot that it almost instantly

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
What LEDs? On a related note, I finally got some ferrules and a crimper and am trying that out. I guess a loose compression connection could cause heating. I would think more likely a bad connection on the PCB, or something is shorted. The current is what, something like 1 amp or less?

Re: [AFMUG] Some OSPF Questions...

2015-09-09 Thread Paul Stewart
Absolutely .. hence my polite suggestion to them at the time :) They have since been acquired and slowly being merged into a competitors network that runs a much better designed network globally. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Wednesday, September

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Depends on what you are putting up there. Is that per antenna, line, both? what sizes? anything else going up there? On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > We are wanting to co locate on a tower which is owned by a tv station is > 2.50 a foot a bad price

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Baird
Yeah, it seems to be just the area around the LED. The connector is not very hot at all. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Or is it the area right by the LED's? > > On 9/9/2015 8:52 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > The connector is hot? That can’t be right. > >

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Nate Burke
I think the LED might run Hot, I think I felt what you were talking about, but I just thought maybe my finger was shorting out the contacts and that's what I was feeling. On 9/9/2015 9:16 AM, Josh Baird wrote: Yeah, it seems to be just the area around the LED. The connector is not very hot

[AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
We are wanting to co locate on a tower which is owned by a tv station is 2.50 a foot a bad price or is it too high?

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Free for the user, charge the store to manage it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 11:15 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Doesn't everyone just assume wifi is free no matter where they go now? > >

[AFMUG] pmp100 upgrade path to 13.4

2015-09-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im not seeing a recomended path, we either have 11.2 or 13.1.3 i believe on all the radios, some may be betas what is the recomended path -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Baird
So, there are people here powering AF24's with 54-55 (float) voltage without issues? Just trying to rule this out. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > No, 54-55 is a good float voltage for lead acid 48 VDC batteries. > The voltage itself has nothing to do

Re: [AFMUG] pmp100 upgrade path to 13.4

2015-09-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I think Ill do that, my test one here on the bench finally went from 11.2 all the way up, probably broke something Im concernerd in the config file, "srcMacAddress": "0a-00-3e-23-53-1f", is this going to alter the mac address if i load it into another radio? On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:11 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650 Issue

2015-09-09 Thread David
Ive been to all of the cambium ptp and when it was still orthagon series training except the new ptp810/820 series. This link looks ok to me. What does link planner say the expected results should be. I would be concerned if the vector errors or link loss was way off on one end but they are

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Baird
Stock is 50V. I'm running them directly off a Traco TSP (~54V). I wonder if this is why the ethernet keeps dropping. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > The stock AF24 power supply is 50v, if I remember correctly. > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650 Issue

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Noise at the one end. The other has 20 with the same signal. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 11:36 AM, "SmarterBroadband" wrote: > We have an issue with one of our PTP650 links. Bad

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650 Issue

2015-09-09 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
if its the same as the ptp500 there is a way to calculate which antenna is off but i cant find the documentation one of the guys that worked here went to a cambium training where they taught him that, I assume it still applies On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] pmp100 upgrade path to 13.4

2015-09-09 Thread Sean Heskett
I think you have to stop at 12.1 before you can go to 13.x The radios on 13.1.3 should go straight to 13.4 Don't quote me tho lol -Sean On Wednesday, September 9, 2015, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Im not seeing a recomended path, we either have 11.2 or 13.1.3 i

Re: [AFMUG] OT BYU vs Nebraska

2015-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown
Have to admit, I would have rather had Taysom Hill healthy for the rest of the season. As far as Tanner Magnum goes, who knew! Anxiously waiting the next game to see if he can keep it up. I feel for you and your winning streak. Seems like robbery to lose it on a play like that. From:

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
Towercomm is the same way I done same hight as the tv tower its equals the same I thought it was a good deal but wanted another persons opinion -Original Message- From: "Jeremy" Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 10:05 AM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
On a 20 foot tower yes. A 200 probably not. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 11:05 AM, "Jeremy" wrote: > Well that seems like a deal not even worth questioning isn't it? Am I > missing

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Doesn't everyone just assume wifi is free no matter where they go now? On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Super WISP wrote: > Hey John, > > > > This product does not have billing features, but it’s a way that you could > make extra revenue for your WISP by selling to

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Jeremy
Ahh, I see. I didn't understand. I thought you were talking antenna size. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > We are going up at 100 ft its a relay tower for Alabama public tv > -- > From: Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Chris Fabien
So, $500 per month for two 16" dishes at 100feet? That seems high to me. I would be OK paying about 250 maybe 300 if it also included some space in their shelter and power. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > We are going up at 100 ft its a relay tower

[AFMUG] PTP650 Issue

2015-09-09 Thread SmarterBroadband
We have an issue with one of our PTP650 links. Bad Signal Strength Ratio. One end is 6.4 the other 19.5 Issue is probably at one end. Question is which end to check first. I have attached the System Stats of each end. Anyone able to see which end may have the problem from these? Thanks

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
And power. And 24/7 access. I'd push down to 200, which is my max for two mounts today. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 11:34 AM, "Chris Fabien" wrote: > So, $500 per month for two 16" dishes at

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Baird
It's not. ~53 right now (see attachment). Oddly enough, the ethernet link did not drop for a couple days. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Assuming it's not regulated? 54 seems odd, sure it isn't 56? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650 Issue

2015-09-09 Thread SmarterBroadband
Just a noise issue? The manual says; Signal Strength Ratio is an aid to debugging a link. If it has a large positive or negative value then investigate the following potential problems: • An antenna coaxial lead may be disconnected. • When spatial diversity is employed, the antenna with

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown
There is heat given off at all voltages. And that particular unit might have a fault in the resistor. Solder bridge or wrong resistor. Have not seen that before but could happen. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 8:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Per foot of height is what I was presuming he meant. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > 2.50 a foot per antenna per month > -- > From: Jeremy > Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 9:50 AM > > To: af@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Jeremy
Well that seems like a deal not even worth questioning isn't it? Am I missing something here? On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Per foot of height is what I was presuming he meant. > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:53 AM, Joseph Marsh

Re: [AFMUG] PTP650 Issue

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Does the path have clear LOS? If not, that can cause signal strength ratio issues. Also, is the path loss near what you calculate? Alignment on a sidelobe can give you bad signal strength ratio. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 11:05 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
I'd ask Ubnt what the supported range is... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 12:04 PM, "Josh Baird" wrote: > So, there are people here powering AF24's with 54-55 (float) voltage > without issues?

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
John, Check out HS Network Manager. Great product, here are a few examples of the splash page – example1,

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Jeremy
$2.00 a foot? Is this per day? Crown Castle is $100 per foot of dish and $75 per sector, per month. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Joseph Marsh wrote: > It's in a rural backwoods area but fiber is right beside it and we can > feed from our existing network >

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Depends. Maybe if he needs to be at 500 feet it isn't worth $1k. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015, 10:05 AM Jeremy wrote: > Well that seems like a deal not even worth questioning isn't it? Am I > missing something here? > > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Lewis Bergman

Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question

2015-09-09 Thread Joseph Marsh
We are going up at 100 ft its a relay tower for Alabama public tv -Original Message- From: "Lewis Bergman" Sent: ‎9/‎9/‎2015 10:08 AM To: "af@afmug.com" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower collocation question Depends. Maybe if he needs to be at 500 feet

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread Super WISP
Hey John, This product does not have billing features, but it’s a way that you could make extra revenue for your WISP by selling to café’s, restaurants, etc… If they are currently paying for your internet, you could add another $10/month to offer them marketing capabilities by sending out

Re: [AFMUG] Mad scientists at work

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Stored in a rectangle. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 12:03 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Why are your cables all kinky? > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Oops. I just looked at Chuck’s website and it does have LEDs. Probably mine have LEDs too and I just forgot. I was probably confusing it with the non POE model. I remember back in the 70’s using slide-base switchboard lamps. Color caps on the 48V versions had to be glass because plastic

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Isn't AF24 only 48v? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > OK, there are some half watt resistors in that area. When running at 55 > volts limiting current for the

[AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread John Babineaux
I’m looking for a Hotspot payment gateway that a Mikrotik can auth with. I have the Mikrotik Usermanager and I want something that I don’t have to manage directly. We have very few users buying packages right now in the one test spot. I’m looking for something low cost and reliable. Any

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Mathew Howard
The stock AF24 power supply is 50v, if I remember correctly. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Isn't AF24 only 48v? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Wed, Sep 9,

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspot solutions?

2015-09-09 Thread Super WISP
Exactly Josh. Free for the patron, but the business owner you could charge an extra $10 or so a month for this marketing tool. It’s a way for them to increase their business and for you the WISP to make extra revenue. Mark Chamerlik WAV®, Inc Strategic Account Manager East Coast 630-818-1004

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Assuming it's not regulated? 54 seems odd, sure it isn't 56? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 11:30 AM, "Josh Baird" wrote: > Stock is 50V. I'm running them directly off a Traco TSP (~54V). I

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Chuck McCown
No, 54-55 is a good float voltage for lead acid 48 VDC batteries. The voltage itself has nothing to do with the data. Too much current could affect it, but in my testing, the chip with the magnetics will unsolder itself before it stops passing data. From: Josh Baird Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Radio Wednesday -- WISPA President - Alex Phillips

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis Burgess
Today Steve and Dennis talk with the new WISPA President, Alex Phillps. Wednesday 11am CST ! http://www.ispradio.com Don't forgot you can download the previous episodes to put on your media player and listen while in your car free of charge by going to

[AFMUG] ISP Radio Wednesday -- WISPA President - Alex Phillips

2015-09-09 Thread Dennis Burgess

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
But it gives you an opportunity to strap a cutting torch to your back and climb up the tower and make sparks! http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lincoln-Electric-Port-A-Torch-Kit-KH776/202339712 OK, or a battery operated Sawzall. From: George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 4:58 PM To:

[AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm wondering if my stations at 2.4.3 can talk to an AP doing 2.5ms frames. Does anyone know? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-09 Thread Mathew Howard
As fun as that sounds, I'd rather be able to just use a wrench to take antennas down like an almost normal person. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > But it gives you an opportunity to strap a cutting torch to your back and > climb up the tower and make sparks!

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
Are you running RADIUS? On 9/9/2015 6:22 PM, Wireless Administrator wrote: I have two open tickets that I need to work on with Cambium. �SM�s hang � Not passing customer data and no response on Wan side. Power on reset required. �Installers unable to access the SM in NAT mode from

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
PPPoE on the SM or on the customer equipment? If on the SM, I'm pretty sure this has been brought up quite a few times going back quite a while. I know others have mentioned that SM registration auth via RADIUS is giving similar issues. Well, at least the session stuck in a state where the SM

[AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-09-09 Thread Wireless Administrator
I have two open tickets that I need to work on with Cambium. .SM's hang - Not passing customer data and no response on Wan side. Power on reset required. .Installers unable to access the SM in NAT mode from the Ethernet side. Responds to ping but not telnet or browser. If

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-09 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
I can get them tomorrow. We are buying them locally at the hardware and I need a few more. Ill post up tomorrow night. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
Donald Rumpelstiltskin. I think that was from the Dubya impersonator on SNL like 10 years ago. Oh wait, even better... Donald Trumpelstiltskin! On 9/9/2015 6:43 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Brings this to mind: Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-09 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't think so, but I'm not positive... I think I read on the Cambium forum that everything needs to be on v2.5, but I could be remembering wrong. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > I'm wondering if my stations at 2.4.3 can talk to an AP doing

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
No, just, no. Hey, get the torch away from that guy wire! On 9/9/2015 5:06 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: But it gives you an opportunity to strap a cutting torch to your back and climb up the tower and make sparks! http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lincoln-Electric-Port-A-Torch-Kit-KH776/202339712 OK, or a

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-09 Thread Bill Prince
Brings this to mind: Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: 'Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed'. 'OH NO!' the President exclaims. 'That's terrible!' His staff are stunned at this display of emotion, they watch nervously as the President

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-09-09 Thread Wireless Administrator
Just to do pppoe auth. Steve From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 7:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100 Are you running RADIUS? On 9/9/2015 6:22 PM, Wireless Administrator wrote: I have two

Re: [AFMUG] Mad scientists at work

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
No!!! Dress that cable!!! =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:12 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Happy? > On Sep 9, 2015 11:44 AM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
What are you on? 2.5 OK, but what framing? 2.5! No, what framing!? 2.5 On 9/9/2015 6:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: If it was I'd say that's a mistake - too many 2.5 notes it's confusing! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed,

Re: [AFMUG] Anti-seize or Brass Nuts

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
The Laird OEM stuff for the 450 antennas use the same stuff. Stainless on stainless. Every single one we've put up has seized. At least it won't loosen up! Still sucks when you want to change something and have to cut the bolts off and replace with something else. I really wish Cambium would

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-09 Thread Dan Sullivan
Josh, No. 2.4.3 stations cannot support 2.5 msec frames. You will need to upgrade your stations to the 2.5 release and then they will be able to listen to an AP configured to 2.5 msec frames. Daniel Sullivan ePMP Software Manager From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5c antenna choices

2015-09-09 Thread Mark Radabaugh
We have put up a couple of 4.9 links with B5c using MTI panel antennas: http://www.mtiwe.com/?CategoryID=211=217 Results have been very good. The antenna is about $600 with the mounting kit. Mark > On Jul 22, 2015, at 8:02 PM, Jaime Fink

Re: [AFMUG] Mimosa B5c antenna choices

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Mark, Are those based off of the ones that the Redline AN50 used? Sure looks a lot like it (though that's dual pol). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > We

Re: [AFMUG] Mad scientists at work

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Always blaming someone else, geez... :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 8:22 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Dress this_! > > Waiting for electricians to run conduit. > On Sep 9, 2015 6:12 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
I like how the v2.5 for 2.5ms thing played out. Totally unintentional, right? :) On 9/9/2015 5:14 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Thanks guys!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Dan Sullivan

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
If it was I'd say that's a mistake - too many 2.5 notes it's confusing! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:37 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I like how the v2.5 for 2.5ms thing played out.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
The 2.5GHz CPU clock should speed up the GUI. :O On 9/9/2015 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I also hacked the radio to do 2.5 GHz and over clocked the CPU to 2.5 GHz so my AP running 2.5 does a great job at running 2.5. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:34 PM, George Skorup wrote: > The 2.5GHz CPU clock should speed up the GUI. :O > > On 9/9/2015 7:30 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > I also hacked the radio to

Re: [AFMUG] Mad scientists at work

2015-09-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep... On Sep 9, 2015 6:31 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Always blaming someone else, geez... :) > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Sep 9, 2015 8:22 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 7:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP AP running 2.5 ms - station firmware requirement I also hacked the radio to do 2.5 GHz and over clocked the CPU to 2.5 GHz so my AP running 2.5 does a great job at running 2.5. Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

2015-09-09 Thread Steve D
Just a bump... was this ever sorted out? Contained to just one batch of 5.8 radios as listed? I know I've seen reports in other frequencies but seemed less widespread? No mention from anyone in a while... Just want to know before our next order... -Steve D On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:37 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

2015-09-09 Thread Tushar Patel
We had 9 failures in 50 we ordered, those were not listed in the unit serial numbers. What we are doing now is running radios in the office for at least two days before we send out and we are seeing these failures in the office. Even after doing that today we had one fail which was 1 hr drive

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-09-09 Thread Wireless Administrator
We moved to 13.4 primarily to benefit from the new configuration back-up/restore capability. From our experience we ran into the two issues I mentioned earlier and one additional issue didn’t report. The third issue is that the PPPoE password does not seem to carry forward. There’s a chance that

Re: [AFMUG] Mad scientists at work

2015-09-09 Thread Mathew Howard
There's just no pleasing some people... :P On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Yep... > On Sep 9, 2015 6:31 PM, "Josh Luthman" > wrote: > >> Always blaming someone else, geez... :) >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 13.4 Watchdog Reset

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
Yeah, but 2.5MHz doesn't help if it's a real LBT or DFS hit. Too many interference issues if I let APs roam free. Would cause more harm than good. On 9/9/2015 11:07 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: You can choose a LBT or DFS secondary channel 2.5mhz away from the primary channel...you don't have

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 13.4 Watchdog Reset

2015-09-09 Thread Sean Heskett
Have you experienced any LBT or DFS hits? With only one channel in the config I believe the ap would stop transmitting for 30min. Knock on wood, I've never had a DFS or LBT hit but we are in a pretty rural mountainous area. A 2.5mhz secondary channel offset seems to keep the aps on my network

Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

2015-09-09 Thread Colin Stanners
That's the new Cambium "Titanium" series radios. On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:48 PM, Tushar Patel wrote: > We had 9 failures in 50 we ordered, those were not listed in the unit > serial numbers. > > What we are doing now is running radios in the office for at least two > days

Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
I have seen 2 out of around 100 suddenly exhibit the ADI Communications Failure after about a month in service, neither was on the serial number list. So a 2 day burn-in may help but you won’t be bullet-proof. We’ve only seen it on 5 GHz SMs, but we use a lot more 5 GHz than 3.65 GHz, and no

[AFMUG] High MCS

2015-09-09 Thread Mike Hammett
This radio ought to be screaming! Oh, wait - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 13.4 Watchdog Reset

2015-09-09 Thread Chitrang Srivastava
Hi George, For your other issues where SM fails to register and you have to reboot AP. Please send AP logs , on AP goto 'logs - SM sessions' and then select luid of SM which has problem, after submitting you will get the logs, Further if it is possible to reach SM please get similar logs

Re: [AFMUG] High MCS

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Luthman
That snr is a lie. The noise doesn't seem to be the actual noise, like Ubnt. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 9, 2015 11:33 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Yeah, I think I'd believe the MCS 4 is real. MCS4

Re: [AFMUG] High MCS

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
Yeah, I think I'd believe the MCS 4 is real. MCS4 seems kinda low for 18dB SNR though. On 9/9/2015 10:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Yeah, something's up if I'm getting MCS 128. Not sure I can trust the rest of the stats if one is impossible. That hop has some high inconsistent latency (2, 2, 2,

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 13.4 Watchdog Reset

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
Nope, no authentication at all. Next time it happens, I will try to get the logs. It's impossible to know when or where it will strike, so retrieving the SM's side of the logs is very unlikely while this is occurring. Maybe I can get my house moved over to a 3.6 450 on Friday or some time

Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
I think the FSB is very specific to a set of radios that were identified as improperly assembled. I had one 5GHz 450 SM show the ADI communication failure. And a 3.6GHz SM show RF calibration failure. Both rebooted with ADI force resets. Both not on the list. Cambium RMA'd them without too

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy 13.4 Watchdog Reset

2015-09-09 Thread Sean Heskett
You can choose a LBT or DFS secondary channel 2.5mhz away from the primary channel...you don't have choose a secondary that is 20mhz away. Unless of course you are in an area that would trigger a lot of DFS or LBT events. -sean On Wednesday, September 9, 2015, George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] 13.4 Firmware on PMP100

2015-09-09 Thread Chitrang Srivastava
Hi, For your second issue, if you are using P8 boards, it is because of NAT table size (this will be fixed in 13.4. 1) but temporary work around is to reduce NAT table size to 1024 on SM, Boot up SM using default plug (NAT get disabled). Chitrang From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] High MCS

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
Your AP needs a shield. ducking.. On 9/9/2015 10:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: This radio ought to be screaming! Oh, wait - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] High MCS

2015-09-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Yeah, something's up if I'm getting MCS 128. Not sure I can trust the rest of the stats if one is impossible. That hop has some high inconsistent latency (2, 2, 2, 2, 806, 3, 3, 12, 754, 2, 3, 3, 3), so I'm more included to believe the low MCS one. I'm not upgrading the firmware at this time of

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread George Skorup
I did mention this here when I was bench testing powering an AF24. My Traco was floating at 55 volts. The radio ran fine. It's not that it's powering the radio and getting hot. If you feed the card with 50+ volts, the LED still gets hot. I remember that Chuck did say it should be fine up to

Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot?

2015-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
On the other hand, I don’t think you need to design for as low as 6V. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:58 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIGE-POE-APC Hot? They don’t throw off much heat, the resistor is rated at 0.5 watt and it has never failed. I think the

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