Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium

2016-03-18 Thread John Woodfield
"I'm just wondering whether that quality exists outside of Patrick Leary's imagination. At the moment I don't see it. " I could have save time typing lol John Woodfield, President Delmarva WiFi Inc. 410-870-WiFi -Original Message- From: "Adam Moffett"

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

2016-03-18 Thread Chuck Hogg
Bad Gino! You know the rules! Gotta be here! On Thursday, March 17, 2016, Gino Villarini wrote: > can you periscope the conferences? > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Mike Hammett > wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium

2016-03-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The small MTU immediately removes it from contention for certain small/medium business last mile connections (sites that are too small for their own PTP link, but more valuable in $$$/mo than a residential user). This is because 1480 makes it impossible to do MPLS. There are all kinds of things

Re: [AFMUG] 450M

2016-03-18 Thread Craig Schmaderer
Have they said anything about a new cheaper sm that does the entire 5ghz band and gb ethernet, otherwise a 450i is still going to be needed to take advantage of that 500mb, even mu-mimo on 2 sms can only do 200mb? not 500mb right? I think aaron gave a hint a few weeks back about a new sm.

[AFMUG] Mark Koskenmaki

2016-03-18 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.facebook.com/mdkoskenmaki Some of you will remember Mark Koskenmaki. He was very politically charged. He sold his Oregon WISP a few years ago and moved to the Chicago suburbs because his wife got accepted to some school and\or job. He worked for BOB. He was in process of getting a

Re: [AFMUG] Free PR ideas

2016-03-18 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes, Jason has mentioned that. They have built an amazing business in a very short time... within the first few years of going to retail, they are in some of the top retail stores across the nation... including True Value, Tractor Supply, ACE Hardware, etc. They actually turned Home Depot down

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
There was discussion about waveguide - I pushed for it. I mentioned the RF Elements adapters as well... In the end, it was decided that N connectors were more universal and adaptable to various antennas. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 12:03 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Yup, I believe

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread George Skorup
Yup, I believe the B11 is ac based. The AF will do true FDD so you can license standard coordinated channel pairs. And to top it off, they went the Exalt path with field replaceable diplexers. And looks like you can reverse the diplexer for high or low side. The N connector thing is kinda

Re: [AFMUG] Antennas Behind Wood or Glass in Old Building?

2016-03-18 Thread Lewis Bergman
If for no other reason I would avoid the wood because it stays Wet longer even if painted On Tue, Mar 15, 2016, 8:49 PM Christopher Gray wrote: > I've been looking into the MikroTik mAnt sectors they just released, it > seems they are one of the most simple / shallow

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Gino Villarini
AF11x , single radio for all band. 1024 qam DuaL Pol. 600 mbps fdx so im asuming 60 mhz channel size dula pol for complete 600 mbps I think is a great unit for replacing links you need more BW. Mimosa missed the boat on this type of application by making a tdd 11 ghz radio. Chuck, there will

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
When you say form factor I am thinking is it more like AF24/HD or more like AFx. It's obviously connectorized and more like X, but likely thicker to handle the N bulkheads. As far as absolute dimensions, I don't think those have been documented or mentioned anywhere. On Mar 17, 2016 12:22 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Goodbye all available 11 GHz channels near any medium to large sized metro area... On Mar 17, 2016 6:40 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Part 101 11 GHz radio. $799/end Type N connectors. > 1.2 Gbps I think. Dual pol. I am thinking of making some adapters so you > can connect

Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium

2016-03-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
If they're wanting a layer2 tunnel, vpls it up. If they're wanting a layer3 ptmp/etree/eline/elan design (which is a much better solution anyway), why not just VRF it? On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > The small MTU immediately removes it from

Re: [AFMUG] 450M

2016-03-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Not sure why you only have 40 Mbps capacity, are you talking 10 MHz channels? Anyway, sounds like it uses MU-MIMO and beamforming and works best in a dense environment, I assume because then you have lots of busy SMs throughout the sector and it can aim at several at once. If you have 10 SMs

[AFMUG] PTP450i Antenna Options

2016-03-18 Thread Craig Schmaderer
What is everyone using for antennas on these radios? 5Ghz ones. I going to buy a couple and haven't really used much for 5Ghz in ptp except radios with reflector dishes. The arcwireless ones look like the generic 5ghz ones that I have used before. Craig R. Schmaderer CEO | Skywave Wireless,

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
We tried to convince them to do a mount like SAF uses, but in the end this was the best solution. Would love an OMT to run a 5X on the same path with LACP and layer4 hashing. On Mar 17, 2016 8:40 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Make that DW antennas. > > *From:* Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti template for SAF Lumina

2016-03-18 Thread Bill Prince
Sorry dude. Never bought any SAF gear, although I was tempted a few times. bp On 3/17/2016 7:56 PM, George Skorup wrote: Anyone have this so I don't have to start from scratch? Hit me off-list if you do because I think the Amazon list-serv doesn't allow XMLs.

Re: [AFMUG] Free PR ideas

2016-03-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I love that honeybees are coming back. This is an exploding market (well maybe like a quarter stick in a tree stump, no like a Freedom deliver from a US bomber explosion). Im seeing hive boxes in town more and more. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:01 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Yes,

[AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

2016-03-18 Thread Nate Burke
For those of you doing hotels, or anything with a Hotspot portal page. How do you handle people who want to hook up gaming systems? From what I understand, you can't open a browser unless it can connect to the network, so it will never be able to click the 'accept' button on the proxied

[AFMUG] 450M

2016-03-18 Thread Chuck McCown
500 Mbps in a 20 MHz channel. MU-MIMO Backwards compatibility. With existing 450 Demos April Beta June Initial production Aug GA Sept 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Full disclosure

2016-03-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
Now I'm incredibly interested on what other lists you are on. On Mar 17, 2016 6:55 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > The bossman was at the show. He didn't do a lot of networking, though he > did do some. I would like to be clear about something, my antics here on >

Re: [AFMUG] VoIP/SIP Trunk Providers with East Coast Colo Locations

2016-03-18 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/16/16 17:58, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Uhhh... you can't put a SIP server (or a small cluster of them) on a CDN cache like you can with http/https content. DDoS mitigation services are different from CDN services, although some may offer both. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Bill Prince
I can see the future problems with people "saving" a couple bucks on N connectors. I don't understand why they wouldn't do a simple circular Remec or DW type of interface. bp On 3/17/2016 6:54 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, I brought that up. You have to make

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Brian Sullivan
Can't they force some sort of compliance with license keys you get after you prove your FCC application/coordination? On 3/17/2016 10:10 AM, Nate Burke wrote: 11ghz links off Amazon Prime, I'm liking this! On 3/17/2016 9:56 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: I do have to say though, we'll probably be

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
When we bought our SAF stuff a few years back, we had to show our distributor our coordination docs before they would ship gear. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I don't know about turning sellers into enforcement arms of the FCC. All of > that is

[AFMUG] PTP 900

2016-03-18 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, point to point 450 @ 900 MHz. 130 Mbps.

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-18 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I have quite a bit of experience with cacti and other monitoring systems. I would've glad to host both templates and an external cacti, nagios or other monitoring service for folks. ryan -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294

Re: [AFMUG] Trango Interview

2016-03-18 Thread Jon Auer
Adtran has made managed switches with 2.5G-Capable SFP ports for several years. On Mar 17, 2016 08:59, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > there are no 2.5 gbps capable switches... why is everyone missing the > boat on this? > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:47 AM, John Seaman

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread TJ Trout
is anyone else concerned about the quality and reliability that comes with these low cost 802.11 based 11ghz radios?? On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > When we bought our SAF stuff a few years back, we had to show our > distributor our coordination

Re: [AFMUG] I need a valium

2016-03-18 Thread Ty Featherling
Ditto. Hell, onlist would be fine too. I'm sure many of us would like to hear your experience. -Ty -Ty On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > > I would like to know your complaints as well, please. Thanks. (offlist > is fine) > > > -

[AFMUG] VISP Interview

2016-03-18 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVJkaPviYDc - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Free PR ideas

2016-03-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
You dont want us to deliver any freedom there. theyre doing alright without any of our care packages On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Free Puerto Rico? > On Mar 17, 2016 9:09 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < > thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

2016-03-18 Thread Steve D
Gotten fairly frequent when the guests are renting "by the month". (Construction workers, for example.) They want to hook up their xbox or whatever. -Steve D On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > Just got off the phone with Hotel Management getting one

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-18 Thread David
I do like the idea of a paid support for maintaining a library of templates for WISPS. I only need two libraries to be concerned with Cambium and Mikrotik and thats it. If I had more time I would jump back into development for cacti. I guess I could keep a site with a categorized set of

[AFMUG] Mimosa Interview

2016-03-18 Thread Mike Hammett
Mike interviews Jaime of Mimosa Networks. https://youtu.be/BT03DJ4_4hg -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

2016-03-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
Not a bad idea... Get a small 2 port device like a Mikrotik that's already authenticated and keep them at the guest services desk. If they take it with them it's a $40 charge on their bill (or similar). On Mar 18, 2016 7:19 PM, "Ty Featherling" wrote: > I travel with my

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Jeremy
There is a picture of the N connectors on top of the standard AF5X-type form factor in their marketing email that went out today. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > Is it the same form factor? I can't see 2 N-Connectors fitting on the > current form

Re: [AFMUG] VoIP/SIP Trunk Providers with East Coast Colo Locations

2016-03-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
ahhh, is this the outfit that took over broadvox? On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > voip.ms has several east coast nodes, along with Montreal and Toronto. > Not the absolutely best SIP trunk pricing, but close enough. > > If I couldn't use them, I

Re: [AFMUG] Full disclosure

2016-03-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I rarely get involved directly on other lists primarily lurk. I'm active here because it seems most of you folks are laid back and more than willing to share insight and detail the why of it. I came here from dslreports, so I don't know if I chose this for the same shit sandwich analogy that's

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Bill Prince
Yah. We just gave our parameters to the coordinator, and the coordinator sent the radio specs to the manufacturer, who then shipped the radios pre-configured. Easy peasy. bp On 3/17/2016 8:28 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: When we bought our SAF stuff a few years back,

Re: [AFMUG] MTC 444APC LV vs HV

2016-03-18 Thread Adam Moffett
You need HV if you have power on all 4 pairs. Or I'm told you might need HV if you're at a site that's crowded with lots of RF noise. On 3/17/2016 9:13 AM, Wireless Administrator wrote: I just noticed that some of my 444apc surge Suppressors are marked LV and some are HV Does anyone know

[AFMUG] Cacti template for SAF Lumina

2016-03-18 Thread George Skorup
Anyone have this so I don't have to start from scratch? Hit me off-list if you do because I think the Amazon list-serv doesn't allow XMLs.

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Chuck McCown
You can go to 23 Ghz with SMA. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 7:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product Something about problems with sma connectors over 6ghz I think it was, but I can't remember for sure. On Mar 17, 2016 8:52 AM, "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:********, Re: 450M

2016-03-18 Thread Adam Moffett
They are adding 40mhz channels with a stated timeline of "soon". It was in a different thread. On 3/16/2016 10:34 AM, Tyson @ Internet Communications Inc (ICI) wrote: So the firmware upgrade to 200+ on the standard 450 gear has faded like an old flag? *Tyson Burris, President** **Internet

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT new product

2016-03-18 Thread Brian Sullivan
Photos? On 3/17/2016 8:52 AM, Bill Prince wrote: N connectors for 11 GHz?!? Wha? bp On 3/17/2016 6:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Part 101 11 GHz radio.� $799/end� Type N connectors.� 1.2 Gbps I think.� Dual pol.� I am thinking of making some adapters so

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

2016-03-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
You guys just gave me a feature request idea for unifi... On Mar 18, 2016 6:53 PM, "Rory Conaway" wrote: > This is a huge problem with MDU units also that use an authentication > system. One option is to give them a wireless CPE they can plug into at > the front desk

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

2016-03-18 Thread Rory Conaway
This is a huge problem with MDU units also that use an authentication system. One option is to give them a wireless CPE they can plug into at the front desk like Linksys device or an Airrouter preprogrammed as an AP in router mode. The second option is to simply have them send you the mac

Re: [AFMUG] CTI where are you?

2016-03-18 Thread David Milholen
Sure thats what they all say :) On 3/18/2016 5:53 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote: Since I teased Dave I have to admit that I saw afterward that he did call and I missed it. Too much noise and excitement at the show. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office

[AFMUG] Baicells Interview

2016-03-18 Thread Mike Hammett
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

2016-03-18 Thread Nate Burke
Just got off the phone with Hotel Management getting one bypassed through the hotspot authentication. Apparently people bring their gaming systems to hotels. I guess could make up a big laminated sheet with a Static IP Addresses that's bypassed in the hotspot setup, then they would have to

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

2016-03-18 Thread Josh Reynolds
Is this something you run into frequently? I had no idea this was a thing. On Mar 18, 2016 6:37 PM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > For those of you doing hotels, or anything with a Hotspot portal page. > How do you handle people who want to hook up gaming systems? From what I >

Re: [AFMUG] Cacti Users poll

2016-03-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
It is a good idea, but there is such a wide variety of devices now, that I've found it's better to teach myself how to create a new cacti host template based on a numeric snmpwalk of a new device. In this case I'm talking about a crucial set of 6 to 10 individual OIDs for a radio such as RSL

Re: [AFMUG] PTP500/600 recovery mode likely cause?

2016-03-18 Thread Sean Heskett
It's most likely the cable or grounding but it could be the pidu. I would verify good cabling and grounding and bring a spare pidu to try. I can't remember what the recovery button does exactly, I think it's in the manual. -Sean On Friday, March 18, 2016, Ken Hohhof wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

2016-03-18 Thread Ty Featherling
I travel with my Xbox when I'm gonna be alone. I have used a Mikrotik running NAT to connect and then authenticate through it. Then I can connect whatever I like behind it. -Ty On Mar 18, 2016 7:07 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Ah, that makes sense. > On Mar 18, 2016 7:04