Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Christopher Gray
I'll give LinkPlanner a shot. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Honestly LinkPlanner is remarkable at calculating this. Add in the trees > and set the right dBi for the antennas and you'll get a damn good guess. > > > Josh Luthman > Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Christopher Gray
In these parts, "they" claim there is a lot of iron in the soil, so our leaves are worse than elsewhere... but I've never been anywhere but here. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 6:03 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > The boys down in the Southern Yellow Pine parts of the world say that pine

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450M

2017-04-17 Thread George Skorup
AFAIK, the Cambium OEM cable gland is a specialty item produced by Lapp for Cambium. It doesn't even say Skintop on it. So it's not surprising that they're $30 a piece and only come in 10 packs. Ask your reseller. They might even have to order them for you. An alternative, since I've had to

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450M

2017-04-17 Thread Tushar Patel
I agree with Adam, we have to be able to install out of the box. Tushar > On Apr 17, 2017, at 6:10 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > > The 450M which has 3 ports only seems to come with one cable pass-through!! > > Anyone know where I can buy extra of these metal pass-throughs?

Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Josh Luthman
Honestly LinkPlanner is remarkable at calculating this. Add in the trees and set the right dBi for the antennas and you'll get a damn good guess. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Bill Prince
It will be worse at 5GHz, and that's all you need to know. These days I would consider -71 dBm marginal, and anything worse is not something that I would want to start with. bp On 4/17/2017 1:51 PM, Christopher Gray wrote: I'm looking doing some calculations for

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread dmmoffett
I'm not gonna spit it out. It's drinkable. I do enjoy the miller high life, and the tecate is ok too. Just saying I'm not gonna spam social media about it Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Jon Paul Kelley wrote: > > Tecate is what I drank when I

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
I don't like it...Have you tried Dos XX Agave (Blue label) and the seasonal Noche Buena? Both are bock'sI enjoy a Shinerbock Blonde once in a whileDamn I am thirsty now...It's 89 degrees On Apr 17, 2017 5:06 PM, "Robert Andrews" wrote: > I also used to buy

[AFMUG] Cambium 450M

2017-04-17 Thread SmarterBroadband
The 450M which has 3 ports only seems to come with one cable pass-through!! Anyone know where I can buy extra of these metal pass-throughs? Cambium, Please could you provide all 3 pass-throughs? We should be able to install this out of the box without having to go and buy extras???

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Robert Andrews
I also used to buy it by the keg. hm good days then.. My own kegger on the back deck above the boat on the hoist ready for a moments skiing... On 04/17/2017 04:03 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: So what's peoples opinion of XX dark on this nefarious scale? I don't really care as I like

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Robert Andrews
So what's peoples opinion of XX dark on this nefarious scale? I don't really care as I like it and that's good enough for me, but I do like opinions... On 04/17/2017 02:28 PM, Jeremy wrote: LMAO +1 On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
My rankings: 1. Dos XX 2. Modelo Especial 3. Tecate From my visits to Mexican Village in Detroit and later trips to Mexico. :-) Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Jon Paul Kelley

Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
The boys down in the Southern Yellow Pine parts of the world say that pine is worse than other types of trees. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:56 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz? I don't think there really is such a thing as

Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't think there really is such a thing as typical loss through trees... there are way too many variables to be able reliably calculate anything, in my experience. But it's a pretty good bet that 5ghz will be worse although if it's a PTP link, you do have the benefit of being able to use a

Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
I have several 5GHz links going through Pecan Farms...I am sure some are skimming over the trees...This year will be a good test if two of them start having issues...That said...I know at short distance it will work... On Apr 17, 2017 3:27 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: > 5GHz

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Jon Paul Kelley
Tecate is what I drank when I went to Taos on vacation, during Spring Break. Good stuff. Had to add it to my beer rotation. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 4:41 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate Not a

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Cameron Crum
Yeah, I'd probably take Tecate, or even a Corona at a cookout over anything by BMC. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > Them's fightin' words. > > > Adam Moffett wrote: > >> I was at the grocery store and I saw a 6-pack of Tecate in their beer >>

Re: [AFMUG] Af24hd front cover

2017-04-17 Thread Tyler Treat
Kinda what I figured. Thanks! ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ > On Apr 17, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > First one I ever had did this. They are

Re: [AFMUG] Af24hd front cover

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
First one I ever had did this. They are held on by some kind of RTV. Just scrape it out and put in new stuff. -Original Message- From: Tyler Treat Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Af24hd front cover Have a friend who had the front cover on an

[AFMUG] Af24hd front cover

2017-04-17 Thread Tyler Treat
Have a friend who had the front cover on an AF24hd come off on a rooftop install, so luckily he was able to find it. Is there a good way to keep it attached? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Jay Weekley
Them's fightin' words. Adam Moffett wrote: I was at the grocery store and I saw a 6-pack of Tecate in their beer cooler nestled in among all the imports and craft brews. Since Jamie is always talking about it I thought I should try some. Jamie: This is not particularly good beer. I'd put

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Jeremy
LMAO +1 On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:23 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I was at the grocery store and I saw a 6-pack of Tecate in their beer > cooler nestled in among all the imports and craft brews. > > Since Jamie is always talking about it I thought I should try some. > > Jamie:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Cameron Crum
If you are a craft beer drinker, Mexican Lagers probably won't suit your pallet. They are good for high volume quaffing at a cookout or a day at the lake. though. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I was at the grocery store and I saw a 6-pack of Tecate

Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Jeremy
5GHz through trees? 100% loss at that range. Seriously, I don't know, but I'd be willing to bet that is not going to work well at all. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > for 3.65ghz I've been told 125db / km is typical loss through trees. So I > guess

[AFMUG] OT: Tecate

2017-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
I was at the grocery store and I saw a 6-pack of Tecate in their beer cooler nestled in among all the imports and craft brews. Since Jamie is always talking about it I thought I should try some. Jamie: This is not particularly good beer. I'd put it somewhere in the vicinity of Miller High

Re: [AFMUG] Butterfly Drop Cable

2017-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
Wow. I guess it's more like $0.02 - 0.03/ft on Alibaba if I can meet somebody's MOQ. -- Original Message -- From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 4/17/2017 5:17:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Butterfly Drop Cable That is manufactured by

Re: [AFMUG] Butterfly Drop Cable

2017-04-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
That is manufactured by probably twenty different companies in China and re-sold by at least 50 vendors. If you go to Alibaba and search for "FTTH drop cable" you will see a product with the exact same cross section diagram being sold by a ton of resellers. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Adam

Re: [AFMUG] Butterfly Drop Cable

2017-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
No gel. I think they rely on the fiber being buried in plastic. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 4/17/2017 5:14:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Butterfly Drop Cable No gel? From:Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] Butterfly Drop Cable

2017-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
Cross section from their spec sheet: -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 4/17/2017 5:13:36 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Butterfly Drop Cable A vendor just sent me a sample of what they call a "butteryfly" drop cable. It's

Re: [AFMUG] Butterfly Drop Cable

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
No gel? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 3:14 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Butterfly Drop Cable Cross section from their spec sheet: -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 4/17/2017 5:13:36

Re: [AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
for 3.65ghz I've been told 125db / km is typical loss through trees. So I guess if that's true in your case then you've got 100m or so of trees to get through. I do not know the equivalent number for 5.8ghz. Maybe somebody else can fill in the blank. -- Original Message --

[AFMUG] Equivalent Loss When Moving NLOS from 3 to 5 GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Christopher Gray
I'm looking doing some calculations for a link that is currently 4.7 miles effectively with M365 NanoBridges. The signal calculates out to -59 dBm, but in reality it is -71 dBm (12 db loss through foliage). Is there a decent way to estimate what the equivalent foliage loss would be at 5 GHz?

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs 450i 3GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Sean Heskett
oh yeah and the improved filters...i knew i was forgetting something! thanks george! -Sean On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:32 PM, George Skorup wrote: > We upgraded a 5GHz AP that was running into the PPS limit. But not only > that, the Rx filter improved the uplinks

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs 450i 3GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread George Skorup
We upgraded a 5GHz AP that was running into the PPS limit. But not only that, the Rx filter improved the uplinks quite a bit. And actually, the downlinks improved as well. The 450i overall is "improved" which is what the "i" actually means, BTW. On 4/17/2017 2:24 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: Same

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon Email to Text Gateway

2017-04-17 Thread Nate Burke
I think about 1/2 the texts are coming through. Ups self tests completed email. But not the starting self test etc. On April 17, 2017 10:41:19 AM CDT, Robert Andrews wrote: >I just used it to send texts to/from so it works in some way... > >On 04/17/2017 07:27 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Paul McCall
This looks like a decent approach, have to give it more thought. I would have to do it per customer Mikrotik, because if a customer WANTS to get all his updates during the day, and feels he has the BW to pull it off, I can't cripple him by "group" -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Wireless Administrator
And then all was quiet on the thread .. Steve -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild Seth says that he is seeing this download

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs 450i 3GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Sean Heskett
Same as the other bands, basically more packets per second processing and the hardened industrial case. -Sean On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:52 AM Jon Langeler wrote: > Any significant advantages? > > Jon Langeler > Michwave Technologies, Inc. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Wireless Administrator
Akamai IP's but unique to Microsoft updates from our experience. Procera, Sandvine, etc . CheckMate. I win always! Steve -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 2:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Robert Andrews
Seth says that he is seeing this download going to his akamai servers, that makes it a much harder nut to crack... On 04/17/2017 11:17 AM, Wireless Administrator wrote: Paul, The IP addresses used by Microsoft for windows updates are a moving target but there are relatively easy ways to get

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Wireless Administrator
Paul, The IP addresses used by Microsoft for windows updates are a moving target but there are relatively easy ways to get this situation under control . Give this a try: . Use a packet trace tool to Identify the host names used for windows update. . Current Mikrotik Router

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Adam Moffett
A scriptthat's an idea for Paul's question. Email the user a vb script which changes the settings for them. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/17/2017 1:10:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild Interesting.

[AFMUG] PMP450 vs 450i 3GHz?

2017-04-17 Thread Jon Langeler
Any significant advantages? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Bill Prince
Excellent way to illustrate the difference between bandwidth and latency. bp On 4/17/2017 10:21 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Very high res... *From:* Mathew Howard *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 11:20 AM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer I like it, you

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Very high res... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:20 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer I like it, you may be on to something. So we basically just need to convince the gamers to become good old fashioned bums that ride around on freight trains all day...

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
So this is a windows update only knob? From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild It doesn't change the speed. It only affects what/how Windows decides to feed itself. everything else is normal. bp

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Mathew Howard
I like it, you may be on to something. So we basically just need to convince the gamers to become good old fashioned bums that ride around on freight trains all day... On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:07 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Gamers have to actually get in a RR car and physically

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
:) - Josh On Apr 17, 2017 11:15 AM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck. > > Typical 53 foot trailer is 3816 cubic feet. > > A LTO-7 tape can hold 6TB > The volume of a LTO-7 tape is just under 0.01 cubic foot (0.00839973) >

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Robert Andrews
All limited by the write read speed to media, seems to me... But parallelization to multiple servers from multiple tapes... On 04/17/2017 09:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Time to invest in RR stock. Screw fiber. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 10:33 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Interesting. I did not know that was in there. So you just write a script to turn it on and off with icons to trigger it... hmmm. From: Paul McCall Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild Metered means the Updates won’t

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Paul McCall
Metered means the Updates won't DL on that connection. Period. You can then unmeter it when you want to DL. Separately, you can also tell how much BW you want to use (in Kb) or by a % (not sure how it figures that you). But that is by that one device. AND, requires GPEDIT and requires

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Gamers have to actually get in a RR car and physically fight. Much more realistic and very low latency. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:06 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer The gamers won't like the latency at all... On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:40 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Paul McCall
Yeah, we could start hacking at IP addresses, that could be unfruitful and change at any time also. We used to have a WSUS server, and yeah, ummm, no, not something I would want to support for our customers. OK, so we have explained and agree on the problem. All the really smart guys can

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Mathew Howard
The gamers won't like the latency at all... On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Time to invest in RR stock. Screw fiber. > > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) > *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017 10:33 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bulk data

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
So all your browsing, downloading, streaming etc is metered? What speed do you give yourself? From: Bill Prince Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 11:02 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild Is this the so-called "Creator's Update"? I have for a long time set

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Bill Prince
Is this the so-called "Creator's Update"? I have for a long time set all my ethernet connection to "metered" via a registry hack. I leave the WiFi connection turned off, except when I want updates to run. It works for me, as it leaves me in charge of exactly when the updates run. bp

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
Time to invest in RR stock. Screw fiber. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:33 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer Well, assuming that the rail was moving at a similar speed to the trucks - say 60MPH, And the rail cars were ~60 feet in

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Well, assuming that the rail was moving at a similar speed to the trucks - say 60MPH, And the rail cars were ~60 feet in length, and had the same volume as the 53 foot truck. 60MPH = 316,800 FPH / 60 Feet = 5280 Railcars per hour, 88 railcars per minute, 1.4 rail cars per second. Once the

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't know that they've completely fixed it, but it's definitely not as bad as it used to be. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Have they fixed the problem where they were hammering the queueing\policer > with several times more traffic than the maximum

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Lewis Bergman
careful. UP is listening. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:22 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > No, what would it be if you had continuous railcar transport??? We could > eliminate all the fiber with railroads! > > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) > *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Chuck McCown
No, what would it be if you had continuous railcar transport??? We could eliminate all the fiber with railroads! From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 10:15 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck. Typical 53 foot

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Rory Conaway
Forest, you are my hero. The best analogy I ever saw on how slow DSL infrastructure was when someone proved they could carry more data by carrier pigeon across Africa faster than their internet. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Chicago to LA is 30 hours by truck. Typical 53 foot trailer is 3816 cubic feet. A LTO-7 tape can hold 6TB The volume of a LTO-7 tape is just under 0.01 cubic foot (0.00839973) We'll use 0.01 cubic foot. A 53 foot trailer packed completely full can hold 381600 Tapes X 6TB = 2,289,600TB, or

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/17/17 08:32, Mathew Howard wrote: The problem I see with that is, a lot of the time these updates come from CDN's rather than Microsoft IP space... I'm pretty sure bad things would happen if you try to limit access to major CDN's IP space. I see Microsoft ISO downloads and updates coming

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Mike Hammett
Have they fixed the problem where they were hammering the queueing\policer with several times more traffic than the maximum set to? I haven't heard that complaint lately. How many TCP connections were they using? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon Email to Text Gateway

2017-04-17 Thread Robert Andrews
I just used it to send texts to/from so it works in some way... On 04/17/2017 07:27 AM, George Skorup wrote: From one of my BIND servers exiting one upstream, I'm seeing... smtpin01.vzw.a.cloudfilter.net = 52.202.0.158 = PTR vzwgw5003a.a.cloudfilter.net smtpin02.vzw.a.cloudfilter.net =

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik speed test...

2017-04-17 Thread Dennis Burgess
Yep, East.us.linktechs.net and west.us.linktechs.net Dennis Burgess – Network Solution Engineer – Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant – MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Robert Andrews
I can't remember which but there was a nanog presentation a few years ago about max bandwidth and the top of the chart was still listed as a 747 cargo full of optical media.. Now as far as getting that data on and off the media On 04/17/2017 07:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account)

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Mathew Howard
The problem I see with that is, a lot of the time these updates come from CDN's rather than Microsoft IP space... I'm pretty sure bad things would happen if you try to limit access to major CDN's IP space. I'd agree that telling anybody not to do or delay updates is a bad idea, even if there was

Re: [AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Steve Jones
I think there was a thread last year about this, some cobbling of a list of MS IP addresses or something, probably would fail in that the IP space is probably shared with xbox live stuff This particular release they put out Tuesday i believe it something like 4-5 gb and theyre staging it out over

Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?

2017-04-17 Thread PE R
ONT only, I believe. From: Daniel Gerlach To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 11:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or? zyxel 2017-04-14 4:37 GMT+02:00 Dev : > We are looking at the

Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?

2017-04-17 Thread PE R
We met with operators at NTCA last week and discussed ZTE vs. other options...very, very postive feedback.  Would welcome the chance to follow up and discuss the CAPEX benefits we can offer as well. From: Dev To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017

[AFMUG] Windows 10 Updates running wild

2017-04-17 Thread Paul McCall
What are you guys doing to control Windows 10 update from downloading updates whenever it wants to? Windows used to have a setting for when it would download and install, and now that setting (IF have you have access to the Group Policy editor - some Win versions supposedly don') only allows

Re: [AFMUG] Addition to new site.

2017-04-17 Thread Sam Lambie
Ok Thanks. The Syncbox is new as of a month ago. Cabling from to Medusa is RJ-12 using pins 1 and 6 for sync. I have a feeling that I need to use a different termination What is the proper termination type and cabling pinout? Your site is lacking on documentation. Thanks Sam On Mon, Apr 17,

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik speed test...

2017-04-17 Thread Robert Andrews
Merci! On 04/17/2017 07:43 AM, Joe Novak wrote: https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=104266 - Two public 10G test servers. I don't know if LinkTechs still has a setup in the midwest or not.. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Robert Andrews

Re: [AFMUG] Addition to new site.

2017-04-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
This is definitely in the weird category. Can you verify how old this syncbox 12 is? I'm guessing that it is new from us in February. Can you also let me know how you cabled the syncbox to the medusa? The two weird items here are: 1) Why is it not picking up sync from the timing port?

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Oh, a couple of things I meant to add but forgot: Other shippable media is an option as well I thankfully haven't had to deal with tapes recently, but it looks like single tapes will hold around 6TB. The advantage of tapes is you have a copy of the data if something happens to your storage

Re: [AFMUG] Addition to new site.

2017-04-17 Thread Sam Lambie
Well, That didn't work... I turned off Sync to the radio via the Site Monitor on Friday and the Radio still flopped all weekend. It still thinks it is getting sync from the power port and never has indicated that it is getting sync from the timing port. Are there any settings on the radio that I

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik speed test...

2017-04-17 Thread Joe Novak
https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=104266 - Two public 10G test servers. I don't know if LinkTechs still has a setup in the midwest or not.. On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Robert Andrews wrote: > Hi all, > I just upgraded a circuit and need to verify

[AFMUG] Mikrotik speed test...

2017-04-17 Thread Robert Andrews
Hi all, I just upgraded a circuit and need to verify speed. I saved an email with an external MT bandwidth test to it but can't find the email. I guess I should have marked it special.. Anyone help out with one of the locations that someone is providing one of those? Thanks a bunch,

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
For the seed you need to understand this quote: "*Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway*." —Tanenbaum, Andrew S. (1989). Computer Networks. New Jersey: Prentice-Hall. p. 57. ISBN 0-13-166836-6. I'd highly recommend you think about how to

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon Email to Text Gateway

2017-04-17 Thread George Skorup
From one of my BIND servers exiting one upstream, I'm seeing... smtpin01.vzw.a.cloudfilter.net = 52.202.0.158 = PTR vzwgw5003a.a.cloudfilter.net smtpin02.vzw.a.cloudfilter.net = 52.36.60.220 = PTR vzwgw6003a.a.cloudfilter.net Another exiting another upstream... smtpin01.vzw.a.cloudfilter.net

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
I'll tell you what other companies do here, and you might be surprised. Tapes and FedEx. Shock resistant, and a pallet of tapes doesn't clog your wan. It scales pretty darn well. I am currently a SME contractor for a large federal agency that does this, and private industry does this as well. -

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Zach Underwood
At this time I dont know the other location as this is just the start of the talks. With a 10gbit wave can it cross different provides? On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > A 10 Gig wave would transfer it in about two to three weeks. Let me know > the A and

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy SNMP and Spectrum Analysis

2017-04-17 Thread Matt
Closest I found: http://169.254.1.1/SpectrumAnalysis.xml > Is there anyway to retrieve the results of a spectrum analysis from canopy > gear with snmp? >

Re: [AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Mike Hammett
A 10 Gig wave would transfer it in about two to three weeks. Let me know the A and Z offlist and I can line up who would be good contenders for that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From:

[AFMUG] bulk data transfer

2017-04-17 Thread Zach Underwood
I work for a medical data company and we have a possible project where will be getting data from a human genome company. What would be a option for move the data between our datacenter and there datacenter? We are in the southeast and they are in the midwest. The data amount would be a seed of 5pb

Re: [AFMUG] Verizon Email to Text Gateway

2017-04-17 Thread Andy Trimmell
Both of those addresses report as down. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:49 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Verizon Email to Text Gateway I didn't want tho post this over on the Outages list, since I

[AFMUG] Verizon Email to Text Gateway

2017-04-17 Thread Nate Burke
I didn't want tho post this over on the Outages list, since I hadn't seen anything there, I figured it is just me, but you guys are cooler to tell me that it's just my problem. I'm getting errors starting yesterday trying to email phonenum...@vtext.com some messages are going through, but