Re: [AFMUG] AT porting out of bundled account

2017-04-25 Thread Steve Jones
are you asking about consistent results and talking about AT in the same sentence? On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:23 PM, Nate Burke wrote: > It's been a while since I've dealt with someone with a bundled bill. Are > there any 'gotcha's' to watch out for when Porting land lines

[AFMUG] AT porting out of bundled account

2017-04-25 Thread Nate Burke
It's been a while since I've dealt with someone with a bundled bill. Are there any 'gotcha's' to watch out for when Porting land lines away from an account that has both Landlines and Wireless? We'll be porting all of the Land Lines off the account. Will it automatically convert the Cells to

Re: [AFMUG] Speaking of Firewalls

2017-04-25 Thread David Milholen
Ill take a stab at it.. This being a Forward rule means that anything that passes through the router or interface. Every packet out of the SFP interface except public ips coming to the SFP. So if a packet that has a rfc1918 in it destined to the sfp to be natted or dest- natted then drop.

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-25 Thread David Milholen
Yeah, Got that T-shirt for sure. A few times. With Retired written somewhere at the bottom. A soldier can still be efficient and fast in the same statement. Efficient dosent mean cut corners to cut safety. I have 3 guys and 2 are very top notch and efficient. The other is a recently ETS

[AFMUG] Speaking of Firewalls

2017-04-25 Thread Jason McKemie
Can anyone see why this firewall rule would just be dropping all traffic? add action=drop chain=forward comment="Drop Spoofed Traffic" disabled=yes \ out-interface=sfp1 src-address-list=!Public-IPs It's disabled here obviously, but other than that...

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-25 Thread David Milholen
+1.. Bullets dont wait for slow mo. Sometimes a little fire under the rump helps also. On 4/24/2017 8:57 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Well then you would not be working for me. Or UPS or FedEX or Les Schwab or Tunex or .. Treating someone like crap is a far different thing than treating

[AFMUG] internal/edge transit firewall best practices

2017-04-25 Thread Steve Jones
Finally getting our BGP project back in play, normalizing all our routers. Focus tonite is the firewall. I had been putting butch evans firewall on all our interior routers, and the two upstream peer routers had minimized rules. the more I think about it, the interior routers really shouldn't

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Flight from LaPaz -> LAX -> SEA. I got marked with the SSS of selected death. Mexican authorities swiped my carry on and checked it with the explosives sniffer. LAX customs was fine but then you have to go back through TSA. TSA saw the SSS and the next thing you know they were unpacking my

Re: [AFMUG] PTP250 "Engineer Challenge String" :: How to respond?

2017-04-25 Thread Adam Moffett
Someone does. A higher tier at Cambium? Chipset vendor? -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Prince" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 4/25/2017 2:42:04 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PTP250 "Engineer Challenge String" :: How to respond? Except that it appears that Cambium

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-25 Thread Paul Stewart
Ouch … 6 people for an interview …. that would be tough! :) At most, we have 3 people when hiring …. fast paced, keep it informal to increase comfort zone with the person being interviewed as you would be amazed what some of them say out loud when it’s “just the boys sitting around talking”

Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-04-25 Thread Josh Luthman
Chromebox? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > Ever since they got bought by Amazon, Woot.com has had some pretty sweet > deals on the gamut of desktops.

Re: [AFMUG] PTP250 "Engineer Challenge String" :: How to respond?

2017-04-25 Thread Bill Prince
Except that it appears that Cambium support does not have the "tool"... bp On 4/25/2017 11:40 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: I think everybody's going to that type of thing instead of a "secret" engineering password. There would be an application that you put the

Re: [AFMUG] PTP250 "Engineer Challenge String" :: How to respond?

2017-04-25 Thread Adam Moffett
I think everybody's going to that type of thing instead of a "secret" engineering password. There would be an application that you put the challenge into and it gives you the correct response. -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Prince" To: "Motorola III"

[AFMUG] PTP250 "Engineer Challenge String" :: How to respond?

2017-04-25 Thread Bill Prince
Trying to login to a PTP250 via SSH, and after I type in the password, it presents me with this: Password: Engineer Challenge String: hozaqojo Response: Is there a formula or something to get in? -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Simon Westlake
From what I've read, the thinking is that it is harder to trigger a bomb in the cargo hold than if you're holding it, even if it is not that big of a barrier. Items that go through checked baggage are also (allegedly) screened much more thoroughly than carry ons. I think planes are also built

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Jason McKemie
They do. http://www.thepelicanstore.com/progear-luggage-61.aspx On Tuesday, April 25, 2017, Chuck McCown wrote: > Guess I gotta find a pelican case if I have to check my laptop. I wonder > if they make them with a handle and wheels. > > -Original Message- From: Seth

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
yes, they even make ones in exact airline friendly sizes. they just released a lighter weight but still a strong version of them as well. On Apr 25, 2017 12:06 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Guess I gotta find a pelican case if I have to check my laptop. I wonder > if they make

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Guess I gotta find a pelican case if I have to check my laptop. I wonder if they make them with a handle and wheels. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 11:57 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban On 4/25/17

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/25/17 10:29, Adam Moffett wrote: So I guess the security is useful in general, but where do you stop? The perfectly secure flight would require everyone to strip naked, submit to cavity search and full body x-ray, wear an airline provided gown for the duration of the flight, and put all

Re: [AFMUG] sync injector error codes

2017-04-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
http://tickets.packetflux.com/kb/faq.php?id=2 Voltage too low. On Apr 25, 2017 11:16 AM, "Roland Houin" wrote: > does anyone (forrest) know the error codes for sync injectors.. > we have a couple that are blinking rapidly (6 times).. > > roland > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Steve Jones
Its a rule now, it is what it is. I wonder if stowed devices go into particular containers, or particular areas designed for minimal impact. Anybody who runs into an issue now is looking for an issue. I don't fly, so it wont likely impact me, but it is what it is. I personally would not check my

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Jaime Solorza
Do they charge for this procedure? I think some would like it. On Apr 25, 2017 11:29 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Wikipedia has a couple of fun lists: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Robert Andrews
My understanding is that they are being quietly rolled in and they are doing kevlar-like bags on existing containers... On 04/25/2017 09:16 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: Are these being flown yet? Last I heard they were just being developed. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Jason McKemie
You would think someone would have done that. I haven't seen anything though. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > Is there an aggregator company for single point of contact to update > everything out there? seems like that would be a decent service

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Chuck McCown
I remember when they first installed a magnetometer in the Portland, Oregon airport. It was in the news. This was probably 1972 or early 1973. I went with my family to pick an exchange student coming in from Equador. I told my school mates I was gonna take a big hunk of metal through in

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Steve Jones
Is there an aggregator company for single point of contact to update everything out there? seems like that would be a decent service to offer On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:34 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > Does it show up on a local speedtest.net site? Ours went to the East > coast

Re: [AFMUG] sync injector error codes

2017-04-25 Thread Adam Moffett
I think the number of blinks tells you which port has a tripped breaker. except there are only 4 ports, so I guess it's not that :) -- Original Message -- From: "Roland Houin" To: "afmug" Sent: 4/25/2017 1:16:31 PM Subject: [AFMUG] sync injector

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Adam Moffett
Wikipedia has a couple of fun lists: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_airliner_bombing_attacks In 1970-1972 hijackings were an almost monthly occurrence. January 1973 is when the FAA started requiring security checkpoints.

[AFMUG] POE of PTP250 & Netonix...

2017-04-25 Thread Bill Prince
We're resurrecting a PTP250 that was convenient. We're currently powering it with the proprietary POE (that I think also works on PTP300/400/500. Does anyone know if it will accept the passive 48V POE from a Netonix switch? -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Jason McKemie
The location appears to be correct everywhere that I've checked with the exception of one site which placed them in Chicago. Speed tests appear to go to local / regional sites. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:34 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: > Does it show up on a local speedtest.net

[AFMUG] sync injector error codes

2017-04-25 Thread Roland Houin
does anyone (forrest) know the error codes for sync injectors.. we have a couple that are blinking rapidly (6 times).. roland

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Went to Cornwall, England, bags went to Tucson. I realize Cornwall and Tucson sound alike and look alike when printed on the luggage tag... Took more than a few days to get them. From: Andy Trimmell Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Andy Trimmell
Can you imagine a compartment full of laptops of passengers being left behind like luggage always does? The shear thought of it makes me cringe. “im sorry sir your laptop was sent to LAX instead of IND, we’ll deliver it to your house in 3-5 business days” From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah I thought I'd read somewhere that they had intelligence about laptop batteries with explosives packed inside. Not an actual device on a plane, but someone building it. I'm not sure if it's worth all the fuss. I feel like someone is always going to find a way. -- Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
Does it show up on a local speedtest.net site? Ours went to the East coast and we discovered had to fix the ownership and location entries with a number of geo location companies. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 5:00

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread SmarterBroadband
You can use this battery pack. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00M2ZNGHU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_ttl?_encoding=UTF8=3MRZL3FRB3U1J=I3BPGDCKMPQGPO Plus Tycon USB to POE converters which are available in 24v and 48v. The battery pack has 3 USB outlets. Two for the Tycon POE and one for a wireless device.

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Mathew Howard
I always just leave it plugged into a charger in the truck, so I don't actually know... I'd assume similar to a typical cell phone (it charges through a micro USB). On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > How long do they take to recharge? > > Mathew

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Chuck McCown
I think the hold is much more resistant to explosion. You never know where your where your bag will be, it will be surrounded by other bags that will absorb the explosion etc. In the cabin you can place the device against the wall and pretty much ensure a hole in the aircraft. From:

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Jay Weekley
How long do they take to recharge? Mathew Howard wrote: +1 The Linktechs Powerlink works well... I agree a tougher case would be nice, but it works well. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:21 AM, David Coudron > wrote: This

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Are these being flown yet? Last I heard they were just being developed. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:14 AM, Robert wrote: > Combine this policy with the newer explosion resistant baggage > containers... > > > On 4/25/17 9:01 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Mathew Howard
That makes sense to me... a laptop battery seems like a pretty obvious, and simple place to hide explosives. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I am guessing it is a volumetric thing. Laptop batts are big enough to do > some damage if they really are an

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Yes, anything larger than a cellphone. Let's just suppose that there was a device that had been modified to turn it into an explosive device. Does it really matter if it is in the cabin or in the hold? On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > I am guessing it

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Robert
Combine this policy with the newer explosion resistant baggage containers... On 4/25/17 9:01 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: We've been remarkably politics free, and I want to keep it that way. I know the answer to what I'm about to ask could devolve toward that direction. I'd

[AFMUG] Edgepoint and Cambium PTP

2017-04-25 Thread Nate Burke
Has anyone powered a PTP 650 with an Edgepoint S16? The 650 spec sheet says Proprietary POE method, but is that just voltage on specific pairs?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Chuck McCown
I am guessing it is a volumetric thing. Laptop batts are big enough to do some damage if they really are an explosive. Hard to tell the difference with an X ray machine if you do it right. Your cell phone likely has a similar or greater amount of processing power and communications

Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-04-25 Thread Chris Wright
Ever since they got bought by Amazon, Woot.com has had some pretty sweet deals on the gamut of desktops. http://www.woot.com/category/computers/desktops Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:35 AM To:

[AFMUG] OT: Airplane Carryon Electronics Ban

2017-04-25 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
We've been remarkably politics free, and I want to keep it that way. I know the answer to what I'm about to ask could devolve toward that direction. I'd prefer we don't go down that path. What I'm curious about is this: The US is implementing various bans on electronics larger than a cell

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Jeremy
This one works, but the power pins need reversed for Canopy radios http://tycononline.com/TP-DCDC-2USB-24-5VDC-USB-In-24VDC-Out-12W-2USB-to-24VDC-Passive-POE-Ins_p_19.html On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > +1 > The Linktechs Powerlink works well... I

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Mathew Howard
+1 The Linktechs Powerlink works well... I agree a tougher case would be nice, but it works well. On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:21 AM, David Coudron wrote: > This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but we have had pretty > good luck with the Linktechs

Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-04-25 Thread Bill Prince
What does she need to run on it? Have you looked at a Chromebox? They are certainly cheap, and they are easily replaceable. Most of them will support a dual monitor setup. http://www.androidcentral.com/best-chromebox -bp On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:36 PM, Nate Burke wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread David Coudron
This may not be exactly what you are looking for, but we have had pretty good luck with the Linktechs Powerlink product. It can be a little temperamental at times, but for the most part does a good job of providing both USB power and an AP, and POE for Cambium. It is our primary method of

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Matt
Was looking at this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019WI5XXO/ And maybe one of these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PZ026OS/ Feasible? On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > We use this >

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Jay Weekley
It will with a better power source. We're using them on Canopy/Cambium products with 18 volt drill battery and a POE crossover on the power out side. Link Technologies carries these as well. http://www.linktechs.net/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=2251=22 Mathew Howard wrote: If I

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: POE Port Protection

2017-04-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Could do that. Certainly worth considering. The GigE making the trip up to the daughter board and back may have some impedance/return loss considerations. From: Carl Peterson Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 8:14 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: POE Port Protection What if the

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Nate Burke
We use this http://www.rowewireless.com/tp-dcdc-usb-24-usb-24v-poe-inserter-24vdc-6w-poe with like a 12,000mah USB Battery pack. It will run FSK, 450 and EPMP Radios (when they are not cold). Use the bare unit for UNBT radios, add this https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=5088 to power

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: POE Port Protection

2017-04-25 Thread Carl Peterson
What if the daughter board just took a second slot? So you would plug the fuse board into the SS board and then plug the assembly into the slot in the APC chassis? On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Physical space is not going to allow that. Plus the

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yep, you're right. I've done it for several orgs now. - Josh On Apr 25, 2017 7:56 AM, "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" wrote: > That’s where I corrected mine. > > > > Jim Bouse > > Owner > > Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi > > 979-985-5912 <(979)%20985-5912> > > j...@brazoswifi.com >

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Mathew Howard
If I remember correctly, an airgateway installer won't power a Canopy SM... it's either not enough current or voltage (I forget which, maybe both). It's been awhile since I tried to make it work, but from what I can remember, it's going to be pretty tough to get a Canopy SM to run off USB,

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-25 Thread Chuck McCown
I once had two job candidates interview before a panel of about 6 of us for the same job at the same time. That was FUN! Talk about competition! Then we hired both of them. Had already decided to hire both of them before the meeting, but was feeling a bit sporting that day. From: CBB -

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-25 Thread Chuck McCown
I had one of those once. He said he was not going to train someone just to see them quit and get a better job than him. We just ignored him and told him to train people. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 3:18 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer hire /

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: POE Port Protection

2017-04-25 Thread Chuck McCown
Physical space is not going to allow that. Plus the cost goes up considerably. I am already one of the more expensive surge suppressor products (and worth every penny). -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 6:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Jay Weekley
The Airgateway Installer with a POE crossover cable would work with enough power coming through whatever you're using to power it. Matt wrote: Does anyone know of a device that takes USB power source and converts it too 24v POE output for Canopy SM? --- This email has been checked for viruses

[AFMUG] USB to POE

2017-04-25 Thread Matt
Does anyone know of a device that takes USB power source and converts it too 24v POE output for Canopy SM?

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Jason McKemie
Just submitted it. Thanks guys! Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-04-25 Thread Rory McCann
With HP most of their systems will have VGA and either a displayport or HDMI connection but they natively support dual monitors. On the refurbished HP side you may want to look at the ProDesk line. I've been a big fan of the ProDesk Mini because it's the size of a thin client, most come with

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Well then. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:56:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
That’s where I corrected mine. Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification They

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Mike Hammett
They pull geo information from there, but do they pull provider name information as well? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]" To:

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
They pull from the MaxMind database. https://support.maxmind.com/geoip-data-correction-request/ Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912 j...@brazoswifi.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 7:00 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Mike Hammett
The closest I can find is: https://support.speedtest.net/anonymous_requests/new - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com

[AFMUG] Speedtest.net provider identification

2017-04-25 Thread Jason McKemie
I just brought a new block of IPv4 addresses online, but when I run a test to speedtest.net, I show the incorrect company as the provider. Anyone have a good contact over there that I can notify? Or are they pulling from another database that I should be looking into? Thanks. Jason

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-25 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I will raise you...and call youon your debate 1) I don't want to fire my guy, he is well trained, has been doing it about 5 years and yes, from time to time we have issues but for the most part he does his job well. Some of his time is not accounted for, that is a problem. 2) Lets

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-25 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I've always enjoyed hearing about the competition type programs at WISPA shows. Layne Sisk has one at Serverplus and some of the larger WISPS have them. I wish we had enough employees to do something like that. We have 3 or 4 installers now but they work as teams (or alone), so it isn't

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-25 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
We have a guy who refuses to train new people. I'm not sure we know how to deal with that because, for the most part, we really really like him. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, April 24, 2017 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer

Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.

2017-04-25 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
This isn't about installing, but I am a very time-detailed oriented person. I pretty much do not take customer calls because of this. I tend to leave my plate about 300% full and rush through as many things I can - while completing each task sufficiently. I have had times where I've wound