Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. AT bucket trucks

Welcome to Miami http://wsvn.com/news/local/elderly-hialeah-man-shoots-out-tires-of-att-truck-on-property/ - Here is the sad reality Since this was an elderly white male, he was arrested.. If this was a Brown or Black (or a younger) Person most likely would have been

[AFMUG] OT: Elderly Florida man vs. AT bucket trucks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IYUJa3rsEU Happened today.

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

Im not doing storms tonitr, dealt with issues from last night, you keep that shit up there. Mast size and weight are what will be the biggest issue hardwarewise, adding that weight and windload kills the load capacity on our current setup. I think we are just going to stick with the 2 footers for

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

Id rather wait a little for a hello than have reconvergence across the network any day. Granted that attitude comes from a long time ago on a tranzeo based layer 2 network where they implemented rstp but got greedy and adjusted timers, those were awful days, just awful. I have a support ticket

Re: [AFMUG] Network MTU?

Some IXes support "9k" for some definition of 9k. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 5:37:53 PM

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

If you're changing antennas, then you should be doing coordination again. Or height, frequency, channel width, etc. I tell Liz what we want. If she says we can do it, I just change stuff when she says to. She logs into ULS and does her stuff. Radiowaves HP3's really aren't that large. The

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

This right here. There is still a much bigger underlying problem, and putting OSPF on the bridge is only a palliative fix. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

Yeah, because the Ethernet standard *requires* negotiation. Forcing it breaks spec. Companies that allow breaking spec on their gear at the Ethernet level do so to mask their own chip and driver problems (imo). On Jul 19, 2017 2:55 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: hopefully

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

OSPF didn't lose the neighbor, but you still want to fix the ethernet issue. One thing that could be an issue is if you want OSPF to fail over to a secondary path. If the interface goes down, then the router knows instantly that something is wrong and convergence can start right away. If

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

So has anyone heard about 120GHz gear in field yet? Jaime Solorza On Jul 19, 2017 4:11 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > You luck out because you're so close to me, but I'd recommend everyone > else go through the math to figure it out. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent

Re: [AFMUG] Network MTU?

We have a handful of Radwin 2000's which only support 2000 bytes, so that's where I have it set. Some day when those are gone we'll go to 9000+ The internet is at 1500 only as long as the networks it consists of are at 1500. If everybody moves their MTU upward then the internet will

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

You luck out because you're so close to me, but I'd recommend everyone else go through the math to figure it out. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard"

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

Thanks Mike, I didn't have a chance to read through that earlier... it looks like it pretty much confirms what I already thought... 80ghz and 24ghz should be pretty similar as far as reliability goes. But I'm not sure if it's going to be possible to figure out if the Metrolinq 2.5 is realistic

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

Homey don't do chicken wings...yuk!! Chicken breast is about it for me ...and rarely Jaime Solorza On Jul 19, 2017 1:15 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > That reminds me, I need to get the fixins for atomic buffalo turds. > > *From:* Robert > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:23

Re: [AFMUG] Network MTU?

We do 9192 everywhere possible in the core … jumbo frames etc… last mile access 1540-1600 we try to achieve if equipment along the path supports it …. Mainly this is to support VLAN tags, MPLS paths where applicable etc etc…. > On Jul 19, 2017, at 12:35 PM, Jon Langeler

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

Earlier I linked to posts helping you do the math to determine how likely you'll have how much fade. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af"

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

Yeah, I'm aware of the differences between 60ghz and 70/80ghz... I'm assuming that it will work (according to Siklu's link budget calculator, I should be able to get 99.999% availability). The thing I'm wondering about now is if 60ghz will work with the new Ignitenet gear. I'm assuming I would

Re: [AFMUG] OT wages

Had some friends that bought houses in England when we lived there. First few years looked great, then interest rates soared (17 to 18 percent) the market dropped and most of them lost their proverbial shirts... Crap shoot for sure... -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Wed July 19 2017

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

I believe it is $295 On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > what does it cost to submit a correction on a link? say we register 2' and > go up to 3, or vise versa? > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Steve Jones > wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT wages

Parents house, bought for $75K, sold for $1.6M... Sillycon valley.. My first bought for $310K sold for $370 Second bought for $280K sold for $840K ( I remodeled for 500K ) Third put $40K down walked away in a market crash ( Denver 1998 ) Fourth $289 now worth $450 It can still be a crapshoot

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

what does it cost to submit a correction on a link? say we register 2' and go up to 3, or vise versa? On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > does mimosa have max EIRP and antenna gain setting, assuming it has atpc, > I love atpc > > On Wed, Jul 19, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

Technically, you have to file a modification. I believe you will have 18 months to then install that modification. It would need to be licensed with the 2' and then modified to the 3 or 4, then installed within the allowable window. On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

does mimosa have max EIRP and antenna gain setting, assuming it has atpc, I love atpc On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Turn it down until you are. You still have the benefit of more RX gain on > both ends. > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, July

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

this is that POE injector deal from SAF where you break the DC back out up top. When we do the next I think we will do independent DC and fiber, its probably less prone to issues On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > Oh you have the fancy cable. And

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

hopefully the SAF guys will get me a CLI or something to just configure the port at 1000. Anybody know why this is, Its like this on powercode BMUs also, you can only select up to 100 on the gigabit ports. I seem to recall reading something sometime back about that being somewhat common On Wed,

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

Oh you have the fancy cable. And indoors there are shielded patch cables etc? I agree that the SSes would be suspected. Also note that if you are using DC over a dedicated non-ethernet line and are using the SAF DC surge protector it is possible to miswire it, I had seen someone do that. On Wed,

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

Turn it down until you are. You still have the benefit of more RX gain on both ends. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz that's what I figured. I assume putting in a bigger

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

I am guessing you would be safe in going up in antenna gain as long as the EIRP did not exceed the licensed level. While it may not technically be perfectly legally kosher, it would be within the spirit of the law if not the letter. From: Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:49

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

that's what I figured. I assume putting in a bigger antenna than is licensed benefits in terms of pattern but then I'm no longer legal on EIRP? On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:49 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > Considering their goal of reducing interference through more directional

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

All surge suppressors can and probably will cause this if there is a ground potential difference or an unusually high amount of electrical noise on the ground that the surge suppressor is connected to. Lift the ground off the surge suppressor to see if that helps. From: Steve Jones Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

Considering their goal of reducing interference through more directional antennas, I'm sure that installing a different antenna than licensed, especially a smaller one, is a big no. On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > we have some links we are about

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

BBDGE its got the transtector surge suppressor, I'm suspecting that, this is the only lik with it and both radios are doing it On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > Do you have shielded cable the whole way end to end? SAFs seem to be quite > sensitive to

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

Do you have shielded cable the whole way end to end? SAFs seem to be quite sensitive to that. On Jul 19, 2017 11:20 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > So ive been dealing with the SAFs and the mikrotiks being uppity with one > another. > SAF has a gigabit port, but it only

[AFMUG] licensing for bigger antennas than installed in 11ghz

we have some links we are about to license, we can "get by" with 2' antennas, but one is right on that margin. we can do 2' all day long at all the sites involved, anything bigger and wed have to do some retrofits that will create some other issues, not a huge deal, just prefer to not have to deal

Re: [AFMUG] OT wages

my garage will cost more than your first house to replace, and theres nothing special about the garage... its crazy I'm insured for 3x my houses value replacement if it is destroyed, and that's questionable if it would cover the entirety of a rebuild it might cover a decent prefab, if there is

Re: [AFMUG] OT wages

My first house was $12,000 Second $40,000 Third $168,000 Fourth ... I never added it up... From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:08 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT wages my folks bought their house, 1500 ish square feet, with what used to be a blacksmith shop out back

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

That reminds me, I need to get the fixins for atomic buffalo turds. From: Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 8:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat Or some food suggestions that could leave you scarred for life... On 7/19/17 7:18 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: We are a

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

if this doesn't harm anything, I'm thinking I may make this the standard, its flapped 24 times since I put it in, not a single ospf drop On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Chris Wright wrote: > I’ve had to run OSPF on a bridge in a pinch, and so long as you don’t make > any

Re: [AFMUG] Network MTU?

It all depends on the network, what you're using now, and what you may use in the future. There is no cookie-cutter MTU. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:35 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

I’ve had to run OSPF on a bridge in a pinch, and so long as you don’t make any live changes to the bridge (adding/removing interfaces), the Mikrotik won’t mind. Just remember to set your static OSPF interfaces (if you have any) accordingly. Same goes for MPLS – LDP Interfaces if you’re using

Re: [AFMUG] Network MTU?

On 7/19/17 11:35, Jon Langeler wrote: What's everyone setting there networks at? The internet is at 1500 byte, so if using vlans and such we want to be at say 1528 or more on all our equipment. Does this sound correct? I use 9216 internally so giving a customer 9k jumbo frames on MPLS isn't

[AFMUG] Network MTU?

What's everyone setting there networks at? The internet is at 1500 byte, so if using vlans and such we want to be at say 1528 or more on all our equipment. Does this sound correct? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

Brian even capitalizes his sixes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:14:47 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

70 and 80 GHz RF performance is going to be a lot better than 60 GHz. ^0 GHz has a heavy attenuation due to the oxygen molecules being resonant at the frequency, move up high in the spectrum past that resonance and RF performance improves. So don’t necessarily assume if 60 GHz didn’t work 70 or

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

lol that's always step 1. I wish you could just do global stp off On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Jesse DuPont < jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote: > Might make sure spanning tree is disabled on the MT bridge so its BPDUs > don't interact with any spanning tree that might be enabled on the

Re: [AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

Might make sure spanning tree is disabled on the MT bridge so its BPDUs don't interact with any spanning tree that might be enabled on the SAF. Otherwise, shouldn't be a huge deal.

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS box with iptables?

Apples to oranges comparison to commercial appliances ... too much to list when mobile unfortunately Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:56 AM, Dev wrote: > > It seems MT is setting up rate limits like: > > dst-limit=32,32,src-and-dst-addresses/10s > > and

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

I believe the first set of these were available via their Beta Store. We can ask Hal to chime in with the official answer :) Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:

Re: [AFMUG] DDoS box with iptables?

It seems MT is setting up rate limits like: dst-limit=32,32,src-and-dst-addresses/10s and then adding them to a blacklist which the firewall queries, or routing them to a tarpit like: connection-limit=3,32 action=tarpit to hopefully slow them down. Or limit SYN connections like:

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

Are the 2.5 units out yet? All the distributors I checked are still listing them as pre-order. On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > So typical issues with new product lines coming thur.. > Gen 1 tends to be a good attempt but often issues are found

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

So typical issues with new product lines coming thur.. Gen 1 tends to be a good attempt but often issues are found and worked out. Gen 2 tends to have the 'fixes' Gen 3 has improvements (actual). Another trend that we see is that lots of mfg are having the practice of introducing

[AFMUG] flapping ethernet port ospf workaround

So ive been dealing with the SAFs and the mikrotiks being uppity with one another. SAF has a gigabit port, but it only offers the option to lock it to 100, not gigabit. so I have the mikrotiks set, just not the otherside, the port still flaps on both radios what was happening is everytime it

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

Just be sure to carry a sack of salt with you for every time Steve posts. ;) Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 7:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat Or some food

Re: [AFMUG] This seems suspiciously cheap

I haven't done an aluminum box. I imagine it ought to be alright as long as you mount it on a frame that's square and flat. Can't let it twist or your doors will get stuck. -- Original Message -- From: "Kurt Fankhauser" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 7/19/2017

Re: [AFMUG] OT wages

my folks bought their house, 1500 ish square feet, with what used to be a blacksmith shop out back (big block structure) for 28k in the 70s. they picked up the neighboring property that has 2 houses on it in the 80s for 36k. I bought my house across the street, 1500ish square feet, built in the

Re: [AFMUG] OT wages

http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/peopleandplaces/home-nearly-about-to-fall-off-cliff-is-on-the-market-for-dollar85/vi-AAopT0H On 7/19/17 7:49 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: My house was $70k. It's a 1500 sq ft cape. It was a real piece of crap when I bought it, but in good condition in this

Re: [AFMUG] This seems suspiciously cheap

4 star review on product: My only concern is the light guage aluminum used is prone to denting easily and provides less than stellar rigidity for the box. On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 4:12 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > With free shipping... > > Anybody want to take a gamble on one

Re: [AFMUG] OT wages

My house was $70k. It's a 1500 sq ft cape. It was a real piece of crap when I bought it, but in good condition in this neighborhood it would be $120-130k. The same house in Brooklyn would be three quarters of a million no matter how crappy it was. It's all about where you're looking. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT wages

Wages across the board have not kept up with inflation. There seemed to be a point in the mid to late 90's where wages just sort of stagnated, but COL,COG, real estate, etc. kept rising. I remember my father made about $55k a year as an aerospace engineer back in the late 70s. Our house cost $75k.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

Or some food suggestions that could leave you scarred for life... On 7/19/17 7:18 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: We are a diverse group on platforms...some bleed Cambium or Ubiquiti when you cut them...that's fine... every man has to believe in something.. I believe I will have another Tecate...

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

We are a diverse group on platforms...some bleed Cambium or Ubiquiti when you cut them...that's fine... every man has to believe in something.. I believe I will have another Tecate... Stick around... some of knowledge and experience shared here is priceless...and you might pick up tasty food

Re: [AFMUG] 70/80ghz links

I actually tried using Metrolinqs on half of this link when they first came out, but I was never able to get it to even link... but I'm not sure if the 64.8ghz channel was supported at the time, so maybe it would be different now? I guess a realistic option might be to split the 24ghz link to two

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

That’s cold man... From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat Que ? No Habal Inglez No hablan Moto tampoco ! Motorola quien ? Una empresa prehistorica ! (I thought we had cleared up all the Motorola Dinosaurs ! )

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT question

I thought APC was always green. -- Original Message -- From: "Paul McCall" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 7/18/2017 4:39:49 PM Subject: [AFMUG] UBNT OLT question We got a Beta in of the UBNT OLT that came with an SC SFP (blue pop up tab) that I assumed was

Re: [AFMUG] DIY DDoS box with iptables?

Depending on what you are trying to do, MT can do that, it's just a matter of creating the firewall rules. :) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIY DDoS box with

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

I think someone at WISPA might have been embellishing the truth On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 12:21 AM, Donnie McCorkle wrote: > Hi All > > Thanks for the welcome. > > We have RADWIN 2000 (PtP) D+ and C series radios in the field as well as a > growing deployment of the

[AFMUG] This seems suspiciously cheap

With free shipping... Anybody want to take a gamble on one of these for a micro pop enclosure?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fresh Meat

Hi All Thanks for the welcome. We have RADWIN 2000 (PtP) D+ and C series radios in the field as well as a growing deployment of the 5000 PtMP Jet and standard base stations. PtP is 5GHz and primarily 3.65 in PtMP. I've heard of this AF group at WISPA, all good things :) Donnie > On Jul 18,