Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-09 Thread Paul Stewart
at different prices as not having enough bandwidth. -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control Yeah ... just think of whack a mole here.. you slow down CDN network X

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
prices as not having enough bandwidth. -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control Yeah ... just think of whack a mole here.. you slow down CDN network X this may

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
Is this only from LLNW? I swear I've seen it from other CDNs as well. I don't see any way around this other than throwing bandwidth at it. And as you mention, this means upstream bandwidth and backhaul links between towers. On 7/8/2015 5:50 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: This has been discussed in

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Darin Steffl
Find a way to shape bandwidth at your edge/core routers instead of at the tower? Powercode, Azotel, and possibly others will do this. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 7:15 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Is this only from LLNW? I swear I've seen it from other CDNs as well. I don't see any way

[AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Ken Hohhof
This has been discussed in previous threads, but I just got off a call with a customer where I was able to identify what content was being distributed via LLNW and causing problems. Customer had bought a new Xbox and it was downloading game updates. He was complaining that the game update

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
You can push it all the way to the border(s) and have the same problem. You'll still need more upstream bandwidth. Because some CDNs think bandwidth is unlimited. We should start sending them a bill for 50% of our upstream costs. On 7/8/2015 7:21 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: Find a way to shape

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Paul Stewart
: Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control Is this only from LLNW? I swear I've seen it from other CDNs as well. I don't see any way around this other than throwing bandwidth at it. And as you mention, this means upstream bandwidth and backhaul links between towers. On 7/8/2015 5:50

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Bill Prince
What about lowering the priority of stuff coming from LLNW? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 7/8/2015 5:15 PM, George Skorup wrote: Is this only from LLNW? I swear I've seen it from other CDNs as well. I don't see any way around this other than throwing bandwidth at it. And as you mention,

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread Ron Marosko
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control What about lowering the priority of stuff coming from LLNW? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 7/8/2015 5:15 PM, George Skorup wrote: Is this only

Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control

2015-07-08 Thread George Skorup
you interpret selling different speeds at different prices as not having enough bandwidth. -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Limelight Networks and TCP congestion control Yeah ... just think of whack a mole