Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter

2015-05-27 Thread Chuck McCown
The “Paint Your Wagon” plan just does not work. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:05 PM To: af@afmug.com

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2015-05-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
” plan just does not work. *From:* Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26

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2015-05-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
The new pope seems cool, chalk one up for the Jesuits. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:02 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter It was a joke...I have nothing against any religionbelieve me faith has gotten me through all kinds of issues. I believe

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2015-05-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
wrote: The “Paint Your Wagon” plan just does not work. *From:* Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter. *From:* Josh Luthman j

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2015-05-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:29 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:05 PM *To:* af@afmug.com

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2015-05-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
they didn’t know how to give their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner. *From:* TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good

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2015-05-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter LOL! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 26, 2015 9:03 PM

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2015-05-26 Thread Jaime Solorza
Trout t...@voltbb.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good will... On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: But don’t they also vow to help

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2015-05-26 Thread Josh Reynolds
for dinner. *From:* TJ Trout mailto:t...@voltbb.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good will... On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ken

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2015-05-26 Thread Josh Luthman
years as a kid, and 2 young Mormons knocked on our door. Turns out they didn’t know how to give their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner. *From:* TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter

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2015-05-26 Thread Brett A Mansfield
young Mormons knocked on our door. Turns out they didn’t know how to give their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner. From: TJ Trout Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter They are capitalists first, you can't

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2015-05-26 Thread Rory Conaway
- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Scary Letter Every so often, I send out something similar to the text below. Critiques welcome A WIRELESS ROUTER IS AN OPEN DOOR TO YOUR HOME Most people use

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2015-05-26 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter IMHO the wording of #1 makes you sound too much like an evil ISP. I would say appears to law enforcement not appears to us. Actually, we just say in our TOS that WiFi routers must be secured and not available for use by the general public. We also say

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2015-05-26 Thread Rory Conaway
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter I do serve in a predominantly Mormon community. I myself am LDS. I agree that #5 should be ousted. It's not theft of service if they have family or friends staying

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2015-05-26 Thread Brett A Mansfield
on there to help his neighbor. Rory -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter I do serve in a predominantly Mormon community. I myself am LDS. I

[AFMUG] Scary Letter

2015-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Every so often, I send out something similar to the text below. Critiques welcome A WIRELESS ROUTER IS AN OPEN DOOR TO YOUR HOME Most people use a wireless router so they can use their handheld devices. Wireless routers are great, but there are some very important reasons they need to be

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2015-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter IMHO the wording of #1 makes you sound too much like an evil ISP. I would say appears to law enforcement not appears to us. Actually, we just say in our TOS that WiFi routers must be secured and not available for use by the general public. We also say

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2015-05-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Of Brett A Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter I do serve in a predominantly Mormon community. I myself am LDS. I agree that #5 should be ousted. It's not theft of service if they have family or friends staying with them for a short

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2015-05-26 Thread Josh Luthman
...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Scary Letter Every so often, I send out something similar to the text below. Critiques welcome A WIRELESS ROUTER IS AN OPEN DOOR TO YOUR HOME Most people use a wireless router so

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2015-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Thanks. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter your are jeopardizing your own service too you are jeopardizing your service as well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

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2015-05-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
using someone's unsecured WiFi as illegal, in fact many phones will connect to any unsecured WiFi by default. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Scary Letter Every so often, I send out something similar

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2015-05-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
enforcement to blame you for bad things someone else did on the Internet via your IP address. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter Brett, Ken does this wording work better? 5)Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection

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2015-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
. This is intended to remind themthat this is not an honest behavior. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter Not for me. I would avoid the whole theft of service approach. I think you are on shaky legal ground, plus it sounds

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2015-05-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
why waste the excess Internet when others are in need? Does McDonalds Arctic Circle stop you from taking a doggie bag and giving your uneaten fries to the homeless? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter If you run a coax

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2015-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
utility world, that is called theft of service. Same as tapping your power meter ahead of your meter or after your meter if it is flat rate. -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter I do serve

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2015-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
Brett, Ken does this wording work better? 5)Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead of purchasing service for their own house is a crime called “Theft of Service”. You are collaborating in this theft and jeopardizing your own service as well.

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2015-05-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
5)Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead of purchasing service for their own house is a crime called “Theft of Service”. You are collaborating in this theft and jeopardizing your own service as well. If they are downloading child porn, you will be arrested. On Tue, May 26,

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2015-05-26 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I like both. I was unsure this is what was meant, but this makes it very clear. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 26, 2015, at 1:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: 5)Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead of purchasing service for their

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2015-05-26 Thread Chuck McCown
I changed it to you could be arrested. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:42 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter I like both. I was unsure this is what was meant, but this makes it very clear. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 26, 2015, at 1:40 PM

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2015-05-26 Thread TJ Trout
to the homeless? *From:* Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:19 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter If you run a coax to the neighbors to use DirecTV or Comcast, they will call it “theft of service”. Criminal theft of service. Federal code

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2015-05-26 Thread Ken Hohhof
out they didn’t know how to give their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner. From: TJ Trout Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good will... On Tue, May 26, 2015