Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:45:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network No, probably 2 feet under would solve it too. Just slightly buoyant. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:40

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread chuck
sliding up and down the duct when placing it. Once on the bottom, the duct floats to the top of the cavity in the cinder block. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network out of curiousity, how would you drop

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread chuck
Yes, just need to strive to put the slot down when installing or wrap the block with some stainless wire. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:48 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network The slot is so you can slip it onto the duct without

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Steve Jones
. > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:40 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network > > Is that all it takes? Weights so it doesn't float? > > > -- Original Message -- > From: ch...@wbmfg.com > To

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Adam Moffett
The slot is so you can slip it onto the duct without feeding it through each block? -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/21/2017 10:46:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network Yeah, even with a large count fiber it will still float

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread chuck
To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network Is that all it takes? Weights so it doesn't float? -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/21/2017 10:38:54 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network 1.25” is fine

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread chuck
No, probably 2 feet under would solve it too. Just slightly buoyant. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network If you bored say 20 or 30 feet under the floor, would you still have floating issues

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Mike Hammett
, 2017 9:38:54 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network 1.25” is fine, but it will float. On a water crossing you will need cinder blocks every 10 feet or so to hold it down. Chop a hole out of one of the sides large enough so the duct can slip inside one of the cavities. From

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Is that all it takes? Weights so it doesn't float? -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 6/21/2017 10:38:54 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network 1.25” is fine, but it will float. On a water crossing you will need cinder blocks every

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread chuck
@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network 7. You don't need that large of duct for this, 1" or 1.25" at the most would be sufficient. Expect to pay around 0.25 per ft for 1" and 0.35 per ft for 1.25", ballpark numbers. 8. If it's going to all be in conduit,

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread chuck
Fabien Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:09 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network 1. You want innerduct buried in the soil several feet under the water. Thia would be done by directional boring. 300ft is no problem. Probably "should" require erosion/se

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread chuck
: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 10:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network adding to list: 7: 2-4 in duct, good price vendors, preference is mutilple innerduct 8. appropriate general purpose fiber for this type of project vendor 9. good price vendor

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread chuck
Normally, when a parcel is subdivided, a public utility easement (PUE) is recorded around the edge of all lots. 1.Normal duct, not fiber. 1a. I have never had a problem. But I have never asked permission. 2. One hand hole per two homes, on the property line between the two. 3. No, your

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Chris Fabien
7. You don't need that large of duct for this, 1" or 1.25" at the most would be sufficient. Expect to pay around 0.25 per ft for 1" and 0.35 per ft for 1.25", ballpark numbers. 8. If it's going to all be in conduit, I would use 12F drop cable instead of "normal" loose tube cable. Actually on a

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:32:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network adding to list: 7: 2-4 in duct, good price vendors, preference is mutilple innerduct

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Adam Moffett
nt: 6/21/2017 2:12:53 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network I guess I should have run a 10 10. is anybody able to justify 8050+ feet for 8 customers ROI on fiber 10a. this is a testbed, unrelated to the WISP I work for other than I plan on backhauling into it for the boss, wheth

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Chris Fabien
1. You want innerduct buried in the soil several feet under the water. Thia would be done by directional boring. 300ft is no problem. Probably "should" require erosion/sedmentation control permit and possibly wetlands study. But you can get away with about anything in a private location. 2.

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-21 Thread Steve Jones
I guess I should have run a 10 10. is anybody able to justify 8050+ feet for 8 customers ROI on fiber 10a. this is a testbed, unrelated to the WISP I work for other than I plan on backhauling into it for the boss, whether he owns the customers, I own the customers or the subdivision owns the

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-20 Thread Adam Moffett
1) Never done it, but I'm pretty sure you bury conduit under the bottom. 1a) Dunno. 2) You put a handhole wherever you'll need to pull, or anywhere you'll need to put a splice enclosure. 3) Depends who wrote it. I think you'd have to read the terms of the ROW/easement to know for sure. I had

Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network

2017-06-20 Thread Steve Jones
adding to list: 7: 2-4 in duct, good price vendors, preference is mutilple innerduct 8. appropriate general purpose fiber for this type of project vendor 9. good price vendor for handholes 9a. would it just be cheaper to form a bunch of handholes and get concrete at 80 bucks a yard On Tue, Jun