Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc
No one on this List or the FCC will convince me that the telco needed this to get federal funds to help them with network builds. THEY have PISSED AWAY all USF funds they keep getting. How the hell do you think Century Link bought Embarq! The USF FEE has been around since 1934 and added to

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I don’t think the USF pool happened prior to NECA. It started with the 1996 act I believe. Before NECA ATT was in charge of sharing the bounty with the rural telcos. There was a doctrine of USF but the guvmn’t had nothing to do with it. ATT was in charge. Or rather in CHARGE writ LARGE.

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Tyson Burris @ Internet Comm. Inc
No one on this List or the FCC will convince me that the telco needed this to get federal funds to help them with network builds. THEY have PISSED AWAY all USF funds they keep getting. How the hell do you think Century Link bought Embarq! The USF FEE has been around since 1934 and added to

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Seems more logical to fix the high cost process than to enable it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:12:38 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Just the cost of BLM compliance to extend fiber to a few homes in Nevada exceed $20K per home. When you do it the government way, it costs 10 times more than in reasonable. So they compensate with providing a way to serve the debt. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 8:54 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Bill Prince
People have been complaining about that for decades. Think we will make a difference here? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/31/2015 8:14 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Seems more logical to fix the high cost process than to enable it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Mike Hammett
I didn't expect Chuck to fix it, but because something is hard doesn't mean you ignore it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Rex-List Account
Hey I know Jack Schitt. Nice fella. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNqLSch84aQ Not sure if he is a Comcast customer though. J From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Mike Hammett
Just as WISPs have been, I think RLECs have been painted with a large brush. Many good, fewer (but too many) bad apples. Those stories of $20k+/year in subsidies per line. The reception of subsidies (of any amount) to bring the rural cost of a line less than the urban cost of a line. Windstream

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Trying to find a pony in this pile of manure, I guess we could look at this as saying they’re not going to give the telcos CAF money for 10/1 and watch them take 5 years and just deploy some ADSL2+ remote DSLAMs on existing copper, we want the money spent on fiber so it will still be useful in

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
My career in the telecom industry spanned mostly the 80’s and 90’s, the period that included equal access, divestiture, and the 1996 Telecom Act that launched all the CLECs. What I saw was a transition from the maternalistic attitude of Ma Bell (Mom as benevolent dictator) to a bunker

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Are rural telcos willing to bury fiber and only get Internet revenue, while the cellcos get the voice revenue and OTT content providers get the video revenue? And if 25/3 mobile broadband becomes available, will this keep the telco from getting CAF money for fiber? I forget how that works.

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
In reality, with the subsidies that exist, rural telcos could bury fiber for telco only. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions Are rural telcos willing to bury fiber and only get Internet revenue, while the

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
me thinks if the FCC gave me 100 mhz from, oh, i don't know, 600 to 700 mhz, i could offer 25/3. Easily. Give me what I want FCC! - Original Message - From: Jeremy To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps How many WISPs out

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I think if you're in a house full of people - mom, dad, 2 kids, if they're all streaming or using the web (more than one stream, 2 or 3 streams), yes, you'd need 25 meg. - Original Message - From: Andy Trimmell To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:56 AM

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
david, with your rolling pmp450, what plans are you offering now? (i guess i could hit your website) - Original Message - From: David Milholen To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps I hope everyone here is responding to the

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Bill Prince
Ah. So TV is important enough to put up a tower, but internet is not. Is that the story? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/31/2015 10:43 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: yes, you are indeed spot on sir. And you know, in this area, lots of houses actually put up towers 30-40 years ago for TV.

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread cstanners
A number of our customers in trees are willing to spend a few hundred to put up a 30-40ft tower to get above the trees, but those who need a 68ft tower are rarely interested in paying a few $K for new. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com Sender: Af

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
well, we don't do towers by default. in fact, i think we've had six customers or so who ever wanted towers and usually we told them to put their own up. I'm not sure to be honest, probably need to pull some work orders and find out why. I mean, some of those are in very close proximity!

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I honestly believe the following: The FCC and the powerful lobbies don’t give a rat’s ass about WISPS and they wish they would die. Hell will reach a temperature 100 degrees (K) below absolute zero before WISPS get a piece of the USF and settlement pie. Telcos will continue to get large welfare

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
what if you setup a roku in a house on a static ip and put a mikrotik in front of it - then controled its usage via a queue? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps The Net Neutrality

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Tyler Treat
Why aren't they? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread cstanners
You can offer it right now in 2.4, 3.65 or 5.8, the customers just need to pay the money for it and to cut trees and/or buy a big tower. A few people are, the hard part is finding them... -Original Message- From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net Sender: Af af-boun...@afmug.com

[AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i glanced but didn't see any discussion on that yetany thoughts? anyone know what i'm talking about ? :)

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
yes, you are indeed spot on sir. And you know, in this area, lots of houses actually put up towers 30-40 years ago for TV. - Original Message - From: cstann...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps You can

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread cstanners
That's a quite high percentage of failures. Why? Trees and those customers didn't want to pay you to put up a residential tower? -Original Message- From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net Sender: Af af-boun...@afmug.com Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 18:45:56 To: af@afmug.com Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Remember too that most video streaming services follow Parkinson’s Law ... they expand to fill the bandwidth available. Look mommy, I’m watching My Little Pony in 4K resolution using 15 Mbps. From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Josh Reynolds
Mmm Golden Corral will make you fat and sleepy :) On January 31, 2015 9:57:17 AM AKST, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Rodizio is not the best place to eat meat… lots of other places with better quality / offerings… But if you want to pass out on a full stomach go either Rodizio or

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
They are, slowly. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions Why aren't they? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
If you’re wanting brazillian, I always prefer Braza Grill in Murray over all others in the valley. Plus they have Guarana on tap :) -c On Jan 31, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Rodizio is not the best place to eat meat… lots of other places with better

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Tyler Treat
As someone who's never been to AF, I've heard you guys talk about Rodizio before- what is it? There's a Golden Corral down the road from my office. I don't feel like I get my money's worth on lunch there anymore. It all sorta tastes the same ___ Mangled by my

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
The times they are a changin.. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps .. Govt should buy people in high cost areas TV towers from the USF fund. Right off the bat that cuts how fast they need their Internet to be, because let’s

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Colin Stanners
Eh? When you are in a highly-treed area, you need to do towers or be quick to send customers to a company that does. There's no other easy way to get NLOS. On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 12:53 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: well, we don't do towers by default. in fact, i

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/31/15 11:11, Tyler Treat wrote: As someone who's never been to AF, I've heard you guys talk about Rodizio before- what is it? There's a Golden Corral down the road from my office. I don't feel like I get my money's worth on lunch there anymore. It all sorta tastes the same Every

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I am misunderstanding something here. When I lived in Nevada, the grocery stores had alcohol and slots. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio On 1/31/15 11:11, Tyler Treat wrote: As

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I would not be surprised, but normally alligator, buffalo, ostrich... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio Define “exotic meat”. Are you talking monkey brain and tiger penis? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, January 31,

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Josh Reynolds
That's a very different list of the places I end up in Vegas :) On January 31, 2015 10:32:25 AM AKST, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: When I go to Nevada, I seem to find alcohol and slots in almost every indoor place; grocery stores, gas stations, Denny's, bathrooms, warehouses, and so

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Tyler Treat
Ah, like Texas de Brazil! Love that place! ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread David Milholen
We are doing 3x1, 5x5 and 10x10 anything above this turns into a custom plan. I just loaded up our first 3.65 AP with 45+ subs and no worries on it yet. Our 5Ghz Aps are not even breathing hard yet. My biggest issue is just closing the gaps in coverage and ensuring our backbone capacity is

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Tyler Treat
O TdB doesn't have that. Impressive. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Jan 31, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
makes you wonder!!! lol - Original Message - From: Bill Prince To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps Ah. So TV is important enough to put up a tower, but internet is not. Is that the story? bp

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
we tried a different place one year...i didn't like it as much. i'm a very picky eater tho. in my opinion no place touches a buffett place like SLC's own CHUCK-A-RAMA. Found it when we were visiting Chuck's crew laying fiber...i thought it was another one of chuck's side projects lol i mean -

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
heck, i still think satellite tv is the best medium for receiving TVas long as its one way c ommunication and not two...and it's not raining cats and dawgs - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:09 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i disagree. we're over 600 customers now. very few have towers. but we have a lot of rejections too due to weak signals. talk to other wisp companies at wispa - the solution is more towers. well, too many towers and that gets expensive... - Original Message - From: Colin

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
like former paging spectrum? - Original Message - From: David Milholen To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps Jay, Keep an eye out on the upper end of 900Mhz for changes and possibilities to license it for broadband.

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Mathew Howard
That sounds interesting... not as interesting as monkey brain, but probably more edible... On Jan 31, 2015 1:29 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I would not be surprised, but normally alligator, buffalo, ostrich... *From:* Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Saturday, January 31,

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Gino Villarini
Do rodizio really carry this? Never seen it the couple of times I have been there Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.commailto:mhoward...@gmail.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Gino Villarini
Rodizio is not the best place to eat meat… lots of other places with better quality / offerings… But if you want to pass out on a full stomach go either Rodizio or Golden Corral Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr From: CBB Fuller

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
I have heard these Brazillian places wax their meat. Not totally sure that that means. From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio If you’re wanting brazillian, I always prefer Braza Grill in Murray over all others in the

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Govt should buy people in high cost areas TV towers from the USF fund. Right off the bat that cuts how fast they need their Internet to be, because let’s face it, if you have free OTA TV and a DVR, something is seriously wrong with you if you still NEED 25 Mbps of Internet video streaming on

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Bill Prince
Is that kind of like Guano? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/31/2015 11:05 AM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: If you�re wanting brazillian, I always prefer Braza Grill in Murray over all others in the valley. Plus they have Guarana on tap :)

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Bill Prince
I saw some new blurb about $45B worth of spectrum just being sold. ATT got around $18B worth, another $13B to someone else. Anyone know what spectrum they were talking about? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/31/2015 11:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Oh, and I think the FCC actually wants

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on your table with red and green. If you are showing green they will stop by. All kinds of weird exotic meat along with normal types of meats come around. If you like meat, it

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
Define “exotic meat”. Are you talking monkey brain and tiger penis? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Josh Reynolds
Deep fried alligator bites are yum. I had a friend in college who's dad owned a meat packing plant in Louisiana. He went home for Christmas one year with 4 bags of clothes. He came back with 1 bag of clothes and 3 bags of vacuum packed meat. For poor college students surviving on ramen, it was

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Bill Prince
When I go to Nevada, I seem to find alcohol and slots in almost every indoor place; grocery stores, gas stations, Denny's, bathrooms, warehouses, and so on. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/31/2015 11:28 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I am misunderstanding something here. When I lived in Nevada,

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/31/15 11:28, Chuck McCown wrote: I am misunderstanding something here. When I lived in Nevada, the grocery stores had alcohol and slots. -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:25 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio On 1/31/15 11:11,

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread David Milholen
Jay, Keep an eye out on the upper end of 900Mhz for changes and possibilities to license it for broadband. On 1/31/2015 12:53 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: well, we don't do towers by default. in fact, i think we've had six customers or so who ever wanted towers and usually we told them to put

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
it's part of the AF experience. It's more like a family reunion nowyou just can't change the experience. i mean, geez, changing the hotel this year is going to be depressing enough. lol. - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31,

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
yes, we just completed 1gig to Atlanta. I feel like I got my Burger King crown from that!! - Original Message - From: David Milholen To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps We are doing 3x1, 5x5 and 10x10 anything above

[AFMUG] Test

2015-01-31 Thread Matt Jenkins
I have not gotten a message from the list in over a week. I just resubscribed, but still haven't since yesterday. Can someone reply to this on list and offlist for me? Thanks.

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
The experience also includes Red Iguana, and Arctic Circle for Fry Sauce, right? I’m still amazed that mixing mayonnaise and ketchup counts as an invention. Thousand Island dressing without the pickles, right? From: CBB - Jay Fuller Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Test

2015-01-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Reply Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 31, 2015 3:50 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote: I have not gotten a message from the list in over a week. I just resubscribed, but still haven't since yesterday. Can

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
It has a dash of mustard and other spices too. Makes it extra special and addictive. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio The experience also includes Red Iguana, and Arctic Circle for Fry Sauce, right? I’m still amazed

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Jay Weekley
They have good salads too. Chuck McCown wrote: They walk around with swords with all kinds of different meat skewered on them. You have a little colored thing on your table with red and green. If you are showing green they will stop by. All kinds of weird exotic meat along with normal

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread cstanners
So you disagree when your own high number of rejections show you should be doing it? The advantage is that it's the customer paying for the height that they need to get service, not you (mostly). -Original Message- From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net Sender: Af

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Rory Conaway
We are seeing that now. The new mantra is stream, baby, stream. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 11:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps Remember too that most video streaming services follow Parkinson’s Law ...

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Rory Conaway
Are you talking about above 928MHz? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Milholen Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 12:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps Jay, Keep an eye out on the upper end of 900Mhz for changes and possibilities to license it for

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Tyler Treat
There's a newish burger joint in Springfield called Freddy's with some form of this fry sauce you speak of. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Glen Waldrop
I think part of it is the generation gap. Those that put up the towers for TV are used to having to work for something. A huge number of the first time home owners now expect people to do everything for free to get them as a customer. - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Gino Villarini
AWS3 1.9 and 2.1 ghz Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Jan 31, 2015, at 3:15 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: I saw some new blurb about $45B worth of spectrum just being sold. ATT got around $18B worth, another $13B to someone else. Anyone know what spectrum they were

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i think there is more to it. the safety of our installers...who put the tower upif the tower is 50 years old and in bad shapei think we have even dropped pole installs due to their complexity. we have to support what is put up too and it can be time consuming. i guess we can discuss

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Chuck McCown
Love squeaky cheese curds. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 4:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio In Baltimore, you’d have to order gravy fries (remember the movie Diner?) And they have some disgusting version in Quebec that involves “squeaky cheese curds”.

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Rex-List Account
I still love Gallagher’s joke on opposites. If the opposite of pro is con then the opposite of progress is ……. wait for it….. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 5:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Sounds logical :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] rodizio Date: Sat, Jan 31, 2015 7:44 PM Most of us will be there Tuesday night, correct? Is that a good night for

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Jaime Solorza
I think we are going to YO Steakhouse Wednesday evening @ the West End. I will compare it to Cattleman's Steakhouse. .I have shared pictures of their ribs and rib eye with you folks before. Best steak I have ever had was in Santa Cruz Bolivia then White Buffalo restaurant in Marathon

Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions

2015-01-31 Thread Glen Waldrop
You didn't just use the word logical in reference to anything involving our government, did you? - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Two FCC related questions Seems more logical to fix

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Glen Waldrop
Well, the way I figure it three bastards voted this with a couple of million getting pissed and the general masses going, OMG!! About time! We should have bajillionMBPS cat videos at our house for $4 a month!!! The biggest problem we have is our elected officials are professional politicians,

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Jeremy
It's a new year! Let's do AF steak night at Ruth Chris'!! On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 6:56 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Sounds logical :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Pirate Bay

2015-01-31 Thread That One Guy
the mirrors never went down On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 9:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Doesn't change I bet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 31, 2015 10:42 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Bill Prince
I've had some interesting conversations with some of our subs about that. I talk about downloading, and they respond, we're not downloading, we're streaming. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 1/31/2015 1:41 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: We are seeing that now. The new mantra is stream, baby,

Re: [AFMUG] rodizio

2015-01-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
In Baltimore, you’d have to order gravy fries (remember the movie Diner?) And they have some disgusting version in Quebec that involves “squeaky cheese curds”. From: Tyler Treat Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] rodizio There's a newish burger

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 1/31/15 15:28, Glen Waldrop wrote: Those that put up the towers for TV are used to having to work for something. A huge number of the first time home owners now expect people to do everything for free to get them as a customer. Oh definitely. They're doing you a favor by letting you

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread David Milholen
Shoot for 10G and make em squirm to get you what you need. I predict the 1G dia we have now with one of our carriers is only going to last till the end of the year and we will be scrambling to get more. On 1/31/2015 1:54 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: yes, we just completed 1gig to Atlanta. I

Re: [AFMUG] 25Mbps

2015-01-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder what would happen if ISPs sent out letters that starting next billing period, everyone is being moved to the 25 Mbps tier (at the 25 Mbps price) because that is the new minimum. Of course that is not what they’re saying, they want everyone to “have access to” 25/3. Kind of like every

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Pirate Bay

2015-01-31 Thread Josh Luthman
Doesn't change I bet Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 31, 2015 10:42 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: It’s Back. I wonder what that does to the average ISP network – if torrent traffic will increase again… what

[AFMUG] OT: The Pirate Bay

2015-01-31 Thread Daniel White
It's Back. I wonder what that does to the average ISP network - if torrent traffic will increase again. what happened when it went offline? Daniel White (303) 746-3590

Re: [AFMUG] [FS] Training ONLINE

2015-01-31 Thread Butch Evans
On 01/30/2015 12:18 PM, Matt wrote: Can we get a detailed syllabus for what is covered in this class? This class was as full as I can do for online training class. I didn't see this question until just now, so I apologize. This particular class was the routing course. We covered (very