Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

We had some issues with the first to ports on some smaller industrial planet switches with some other switches having to do with negotiation if I remember correctly. If you are using the first two ports, maybe move those to another port to see if it still happens? Probably not related but maybe

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

All Ethernet gear has to have some surge protection built in or it will not pass certain specs. But you need replicable/expendable robust external surge suppressors as the first line of defense. If the surge suppressor is designed properly it will not degrade performance. From: Ken

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

Looks like a stealth product. Maybe WikiLeaks can get us a spec sheet. David, can you post a photo of your setup? It looks like around $1000 street price for 4 ports, plus a separate controller, plus a UGPS? Wowzers. Compare to CTM2 from LMG which is 8 ports with integral controller.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay (Electrical)

On 1/10/17 12:34, Nate Burke wrote: I'm looking for a countdown relay. Where the relay will be energized when a switch is thrown then continue to run for another 15 minutes once the switch is turned off. I'm having trouble coming up with the right search term to find it. Anyone know what I'm

[AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay (Electrical)

I'm looking for a countdown relay. Where the relay will be energized when a switch is thrown then continue to run for another 15 minutes once the switch is turned off. I'm having trouble coming up with the right search term to find it. Anyone know what I'm looking for?

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

I would definitely lock the SFP+ interface(s) to 1G or 10G, whatever is installed in the slot. Auto might work the first time, but if the link goes down, it won't work again until you force it and then set back to auto, or reboot the switch. So just leave it forced. On 1/10/2017 1:20 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay (Electrical)

This might be one option: https://cdn.automationdirect.com/static/specs/fuji116timers.pdf -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:34 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay (Electrical)

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay (Electrical)

I've built several relays to do much more complicated things using raspberry pi's and either single or octal bank relays. All the parts and instruction are easy to google, but if you need assistance, just hit me up off list. Thank You, Jordan Gregory Founder / CEO Hive Wireless, LLC On Tue, Jan

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay (Electrical)

Time delay relay. Dayton and Macromatic are the two that come to my mind. On 1/10/2017 2:34 PM, Nate Burke wrote: I'm looking for a countdown relay. Where the relay will be energized when a switch is thrown then continue to run for another 15 minutes once the switch is turned off. I'm having

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay (Electrical)

It sounds like he wants something similar to the time delay relay that keeps the fan running in your furnace for a minute after the heat or air conditioner turns off. Or in your garage door opener to control the garage light. Someone actually has a Youtube tutorial:

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

Thats all there is that I could find or get at this time. I am sure more to follow. On 01/10/2017 12:14 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: Through online chat I asked Cambium the other day for a spec sheet. All they gave me was the quick start guide. Attached. On 1/10/2017 10:55 AM, Ken Hohhof

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

Thanks, that explains a lot. So the controller exists. And it can go side-by-side with an injector. And that’s quite a honkin’ heat sink. So it’s more than 1U high. Do you think it generates regulated 56V (or 29.5V for the other version) from 48V in? If not, why the big heat sink? To be

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

He probably spent a few hundred on the planet switch... 10k is probably more than the worth of all gear at the site :) On Jan 10, 2017 5:33 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" wrote: > How about Cisco NCS 5000 series? > > http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/ >

[AFMUG] Email address

Hi, I just realized today that I have had the same email address for 18.5 years. I'm on every spam and mailing list ever created. LOL Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

On 1/10/17 16:52, Ken Hohhof wrote: What happened to tlj1 or tlj? (Or does the "2" stand for something else?) 2 legit 2 quit

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

What I like about the MGSW-28240F is: $1k, 24x SFP + 4x SFP+ (rings), single AC and dual DC built in. I believe max power consumption is about 40 watts. 24 vs 48 means less customers go down if a switch fails or is brought down for maintenance. I looked at Planet's modular switch. Uh, no.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay (Electrical)

A, like for the vent fan in a bathroom? To keep it running for 15 minutes after someone steams it up by taking a shower, or stinks it up by … never mind. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

What happened to tlj1 or tlj? (Or does the "2" stand for something else?) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:49 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Email address Hi, I just realized today that I have

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

Cambium would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling kids! On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I sent the gang out to look for any Cambium documentation on the CMM5. > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

Budget? Brocade VDX may come close. IgniteNet has one with 24x SFPs. Their sister company EdgeCore probably has one. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Sterling Jacobson"

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

Is that it's power supply hanging off of the back? On 1/10/2017 5:14 PM, Dave wrote: Thats all there is that I could find or get at this time. I am sure more to follow. On 01/10/2017 12:14 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: Through online chat I asked Cambium the other day for a spec sheet. All

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

Is there any other switch out there with around 48 ports 1U of SFP ports? I would use an IBM or Force10, but their power consumption is MUCH higher per 1U/Port than the Planet switch. Was going for low power high port density SFP switch with a few SFP+ ports/access. Maybe I should be looking

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

It's a poor man's Virtual Chassis ;) On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > But 100Gig!!! > > I also really like this feature: > > It can also operate as an extension shelf of Cisco ASR 9000 Series > Aggregation Services Routers using network

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

Haha. The tlj2 email is used only for this list. :) My t...@ida.net is still my primary email account. Travis On 1/10/2017 5:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: What happened to tlj1 or tlj? (Or does the "2" stand for something else?) -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Help Finding a Relay (Electrical)

I actually found exactly what I was looking for with the right terminology https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EVWFPS On 1/10/2017 4:15 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: It sounds like he wants something similar to the time delay relay that keeps the fan running in your furnace for a minute after

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

Ken, I have not fully reviewed the specs but from what I gather the voltage is passive and the 29v has to have 29v supply. This gives it a more segmented service that is deserved by the cambium gear connected to it. I like the idea of no moving parts. I have always been a Mil-spec kind of

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

But he cashed out? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Seth Mattinen" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 6:58:22 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Email

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

So uh when that email server quits working...what then? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:02 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > Haha. The tlj2 email is used only for this list. :) > > My t...@ida.net

[AFMUG] OT - T-Mobile commercial "Oh my goodness, you have fees"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrhV6aApeqs

Re: [AFMUG] OT - T-Mobile commercial "Oh my goodness, you have fees"

That’s just nasty. I had 4 daughters, and lice happens... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:01 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT - T-Mobile commercial "Oh my goodness, you have fees" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrhV6aApeqs

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

It’s in the basement of Travis’ house. Rise is still looking for it. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Email address So uh when that email server quits working...what then?

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

Negative, Notice the green ports in the front for making your direct connections to a DC source. This design works well for us since all of our sites now have a 29v and 48v supply system. When we add one of these to an older site for upgrade we will leave the cmm4 for the 29v gear and

Re: [AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

Should work quite well. I imagine PDMnet has lots of FSK 900APs and SMs for sale. On Jan 10, 2017 9:32 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Would a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a 1/2 mile shot > with trees and whatnot? It is in a river valley, connecting buildings

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

Haha... I wish... we had 15,000 email accounts (@ida.net) when we sold. I could charge $1/month/account and make good money. :) Rise moved all the emails to Everyone.Net within six months after I sold... and they have had 3 major outages (more than 24 hours long) just during the last 3

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

My personal email has been on yahoo since 1994. Kind of amazing to me. Don't give me any snide remarks about yahoo. It's actually worked pretty well; I even have emails going back that far. bp On 1/10/2017 4:48 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I just realized

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

I'm guessing yours was involved in the recent leak? :) On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:43 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > My personal email has been on yahoo since 1994. Kind of amazing to me. > > Don't give me any snide remarks about yahoo. It's actually worked pretty > well; I even

Re: [AFMUG] 15.0.2 on 450i / 900mhz

Matt, I can create self interference on my 450i 900mhz by not using colocation settings on my FSK that is 16 miles away so I would suspect that the frame size was important. I can cause issues just by not matching up closely enough on download % and so on as outlined in the white paper. That

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

How about Cisco NCS 5000 series? http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/routers/network-convergence-system-5000-series/datasheet-c78-736153.html 40x1/10GE +

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

But 100Gig!!! I also really like this feature: It can also operate as an extension shelf of Cisco ASR 9000 Series Aggregation Services Routers using network virtualization (nV) technology, consolidating multiple layers in the network and dramatically reducing operational costs. > On Jan

Re: [AFMUG] Email address

All the leaks reported were at least 2 years ago. I've since changed my passwords, and I don't put important stuff in email without precautions anyway. I always advise people that email is not secure. bp On 1/10/2017 10:07 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: I'm guessing

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

That's what VMs are for. On Jan 10, 2017 11:22 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > I have older network devices that don't use modern TLS. None of the > browsers want to talk to them anymore. Used to be I could make it work in > Firefox by tweaking config options. > > Most of the

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

ooohNetscape 9. Good idea. -- Original Message -- From: "Ken Hohhof" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/10/2017 12:47:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions This is unlikely to auto update: http://www.oldversion.com/windows/netscape/ From: Af

[AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

I have older network devices that don't use modern TLS. None of the browsers want to talk to them anymore. Used to be I could make it work in Firefox by tweaking config options. Most of the forum posts on this topic say "It's the server's fault, fix the server." Naturally, I can't fix the

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

Roger -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/10/2017 12:38:43 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions Don't shut down the VM, pause it. On Jan 10, 2017 11:37 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: Yes, but I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

dedicated images for everything, this, stupid java, all that jazz On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I have older network devices that don't use modern TLS. None of the > browsers want to talk to them anymore. Used to be I could make it work in >

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

Yes, but I'm impatient and I hate waiting for the VM to boot. I'd rather load an application. -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/10/2017 12:35:24 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions That's what VMs are for.

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

Don't shut down the VM, pause it. On Jan 10, 2017 11:37 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Yes, but I'm impatient and I hate waiting for the VM to boot. I'd rather > load an application. > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Josh Reynolds" > To:

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

Just suspend it. It'll come up in a few seconds. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:37 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Yes, but I'm impatient and I hate waiting for the VM to boot. I'd

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

This is unlikely to auto update: http://www.oldversion.com/windows/netscape/ From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:23 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions I have older network

[AFMUG] PtP Link w\ Foliage

Would a PtP link in 900 with FSK gear be appropriate for a 1/2 mile shot with trees and whatnot? It is in a river valley, connecting buildings on either side of the river. It's just running a webcam and it's going to DSL, so there's not THAT much throughput needed or available. AP at camera

[AFMUG] Planet Switch

I have a 48 port SFP switch with four SFP+ ports that keeps losing connectivity randomly to my IBM switch. It requires a reboot to fix. Nothing in the logs or reported by either switch other than the link is down from the IBM switch. Anyone seen or experienced this with Planet?

Re: [AFMUG] Hex

We have a few of them running on micro POPs, having 48v and GigE support is really nice for using with ePMP APs. Definitely a nice upgrade to the 750UP. On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:09 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: > Mikrotik did an upgrade to 750UP called hEX PoE. > > Just playing

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

Thanks for the suggestion. This is working beautifully for accessing the antiques. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/10/2017 1:21:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions ooohNetscape 9. Good idea. --

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

Opera seems to work well enough when I run into these cases, but I haven't had a case in a while, so, they may have patched it. -- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 Emergency Support:

Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions

Keep your old copy. I downloaded a new version of Opera and it gives me the same attitude as Firefox & Chrome. -- Original Message -- From: "Sam Kirsch" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 1/10/2017 1:36:26 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Browser for old SSL versions Opera seems to

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

What model Planet 48 SFP switch are you using? My experience is with the MGSW-28240F. The SFP+ slots will work on auto... until they don't. Auto in this case being 1G/10G module speed detection. I don't think there's ethernet auto-negotiation on those interfaces at all. You have to set the

Re: [AFMUG] Planet Switch

It's a GS-5220-46S2C4X 48 port SFP switch with four SFP+ ports. So maybe I need to lock down the SFP+ port to 10Gbps. Also, I can't seem to find updated firmware for this switch. Is Planet actively supporting and updating firmware for their switches? The original and only firmware appears to

Re: [AFMUG] VoLTE

I've never had static on a volte call yet. Works very well in our area. We did have a verizon contractor accidentally cut and remove a few of our sectors on a shared grain leg site. They were removing their gear and going to a nearby monopole. Anyway, contractor thought our small sectors were

Re: [AFMUG] Home RG routers -

Im partial to the Cambium E400/E500 Series line of products. Easy to deploy and very feature rich without the extra gear. http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/wifi/cnpilot-indoor/ On 1/8/2017 7:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Is Unifi all the latest AC dual band etc etc? I should upgrade the

Re: [AFMUG] 450m

If anyone is going 450m I would really suggest the CMM5 line of products to go with it. Takes all the guess work out of gps timing and surge protection at the base or control point. Also, its a long term solution for those needing high capacity within highly dense areas. Just got our

[AFMUG] Hex

Mikrotik did an upgrade to 750UP called hEX PoE. Just playing around. Very nice tool. All 5 Ethernet Ports are GigE and can be HW-switched together. Features a SFP ;-) which cant be HW-switched just SW-Bridged or routed. Eats 12-57V on barrel or POE in on Port1. If you feed it with 48V it