[AFMUG] OT: Solar Edge

2017-09-27 Thread Jason McKemie
Has anyone used this stuff? A customer of mine has it, pretty nice solar monitoring setup. https://www.solaredge.com/

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Joe Novak
Even Comcast is jumping head first into a streaming service that will be able to use smart TVs and Rokus as the client devices. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Comcasts-New-20-Streaming-Service-Wont-Count-Against-Caps-140411 On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: > IGMP

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Have a cousin whose husband's parents live in Puerto Rico and they have not had contact with them? Does Gino have email or phone service yet? On Sep 26, 2017 10:40 PM, "Brian Webster" wrote: Just got an update on this request, they have enough volunteers for this now.

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Chris Fabien
We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their system is true IGMP multicast and needs some specific network features to support that. Also will NOT handle packet loss or network congestion well at all. It's not like netflix where it

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Rory Conaway
We will have a service announced shortly based on Viva Entertainment. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 8:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Yeah, kinda like deploying ISDN right when the internet was

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Dave
Rory,  Are you doing the whole middle ware thing and adding content to it? Or, are you doing something like I mentioned ? Thanks Dave On 09/27/2017 11:32 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: We will have a service announced shortly based on Viva Entertainment. Rory *From:*Af

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Mike Hammett
There's not much investment to make those types of systems work (as opposed to DIY headends) so not a long term ROI problem. Linear TV will still have a significant presence for several years. 5 - 10 years at least. I like the quality capabilities of an on-net video solution, but anyone not

Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
I talked to an airforce contact today. His recommendation was to go to the PR air national guard with very detailed cargo information and the reasoning it is or could be considered infrastructure/critical infrastructure and they will get it into the transport queue. It would probably need

Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
If folks have not looked at a map recently, this is not a three hour cruise. PR is a long way off. Not close like Cuba. It is way down there. So you need a truly ocean going vessel that is set up for spending days on the high seas. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 8:24

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
I gave up once Directv Now, Playstation VUE and Sling TV hit the scene. From: Dave Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:08 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 5ghz AP possible case water intrusion

2017-09-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I have had a lot of them fail for this issue, Cambium was initially repairing/replacing old 450AP's even ones that were out of warranty until they realized how many I had. Then they started to say that basically since it was out of warranty they weren't going to do anything anymore. I have an

Re: [AFMUG] Gino - status update

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
On of my best technicians ever and tower climbers retired and moved to PR in between storms. Talk about timing... He knows Gino. If you can let Gino know that Jeff Hodges is living there and will be attempting to contact Gino he could not find a guy better suited to provide the exact

[AFMUG] Today on ISP Radio

2017-09-27 Thread Dennis Burgess
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Re: [AFMUG] Gino

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
If leaving Miami VFR, things could change by the time you got there. I guess you could always go alternate to somewhere that may have IFR capabilities, but I imagine surrounding islands have their own problems. From: Brian Webster Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:08 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
You'd be adding a lot of technical and financial (possibly) and customer education headaches to support a dying media model. On Sep 27, 2017 10:08 AM, "Dave" wrote: > Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? > If so, What are some issues you deal with and which

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
Yeah, kinda like deploying ISDN right when the internet was getting going... the better technology is here already. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:27 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV You'd be adding a lot of technical and financial (possibly) and

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
IGMP IPTV is something I wasted 5 years of my life on. Never again. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV We are in process of deploying Rodeo. It's been a long process and still not ready to launch. Be advised their

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
What set top boxes can utilize YouTube tv ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Roger Timmerman" To: Subject: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Date: Wed, Sep 27, 2017 1:48 PM We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back.  We still

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Joe Novak
It doesn't look like much of anything just yet Android based boxes for the most part it looks like. https://support.google.com/youtubetv/answer/7129767?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid=en On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 2:03 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > What set top boxes

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Layne Sisk
One of the problems you will see is that when using OTT, as it is defined by the carriers, is that some of the most important content is not now nor will it be available for at least the foreseeable future. OTT as they define it is available over the open internet similar to what Sling and Vue

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Roger Timmerman
We ditched our own IPTV system a couple years back. We still promote 3 partner multicast IPTV systems across our network and Sling for OTT. However, Youtube TV launched in our market and is way better than any other OTT system I've seen. Local channels, network channels, cloud DVR and a much

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Jason McKemie
There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing it, such as HBO. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:38 PM, wrote: > Sucks they don’t have discovery. So far, only Sony and Directv Now have >

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Roger Timmerman
Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome browser. I watch it mostly on my Vizio TV that has built in chromecast or on another TV that has an Apple TV. Basically, you use your phone, tablet, or PC as a super remote-control. As far

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
Cannot find how you can view upcoming programs for a channel. It only shows the next program, but so far cannot figure how to scroll forward and record something in the future. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV I

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
Roger, how do you get the bundling deal? Can you buy wholesale or what? From: Roger Timmerman Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Youtube TV uses chromecast (they will send you a free one after your first payment), IOS devices, and Chrome

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
Sucks they don’t have discovery. So far, only Sony and Directv Now have it. I really like slingtv but this youtube tv seems much easier to set up a series recording and find it later. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:18 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Jason McKemie
I'd like to have Syfy OTT, that's not an option yet, is it? On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:54 PM, wrote: > I get all my favorite pay channels on OTT now. > > *From:* Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:52 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV >

[AFMUG] Tower construction accident in Miami today

2017-09-27 Thread Wireless Administrator
Ouch ... http://wsvn.com/news/local/3-dead-after-falling-from-television-tower-in-mia mi-gardens/ Steve B.

Re: [AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Do you need me to translate the Spanish for you? It says "ha ha ha we got you!" On Sep 27, 2017 7:25 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Already took out my brother in laws baby monitor, they cant walk over now. > I told them to call comed and raise hell > > On Sep 27, 2017

[AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
I have a location thats solely down to multipath reflective fading. The best analogy i have is noise cancelling headphones, which makes total sense to me... but still the same dull look. Is there aome rf for dummies visuals?

Re: [AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread Jason McKemie
Faraday-cage it. On Wednesday, September 27, 2017, Steve Jones wrote: > Already took out my brother in laws baby monitor, they cant walk over now. > I told them to call comed and raise hell > > On Sep 27, 2017 8:09 PM, "Mathew Howard"

Re: [AFMUG] Tower construction accident in Miami today

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
We were working in Cedar Hills, Texas when this same company lost three tower guys near Joe Poole Lake where all those monster towers are that serve DFW area...sad... On Sep 27, 2017 3:13 PM, "Wireless Administrator" wrote: > Ouch ….. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
Shine a flashlight through a bush. If you're lucky sometimes the light reflects off multiple leaves onto roughly the same spot. (Constructive reflection) On Sep 27, 2017 8:43 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > I have a location thats solely down to multipath reflective

Re: [AFMUG] Tower construction accident in Miami today

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Have you seen those gin poles used on large towers? I have turned down high paying gigs on crews like these. Cranes near guyed towers...not my cup of Tecate. On Sep 27, 2017 8:26 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: > They were "attached to the gin pole, when it collapsed and they

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Laymen, laymen, laymen. How do i visualize the fact that the same thing at the same level, can cancel itself out? Beyond that, how do i show the variance factors, temp, humidity, radio mites? Even better would be a live display of reasonable things they understand. My old man would be easy. Id

[AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, aren't you lucky! On Sep 27, 2017 8:01 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Already took out my brother in laws baby monitor, they cant walk over now. I told them to call comed and raise hell On Sep 27, 2017 8:09 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: Well, aren't you lucky! On Sep 27, 2017 8:01 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: >

[AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc-net-neutrality-isp I pretty much had to quit reading when this idiot sated what the FCCs job is

Re: [AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Some 900 MHz video transmitter can cause meters problems. On Sep 27, 2017 8:02 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: Faraday-cage it. On Wednesday, September 27, 2017, Steve Jones wrote: > Already took out my brother in laws baby monitor,

Re: [AFMUG] Tower construction accident in Miami today

2017-09-27 Thread Jeremy
They were "attached to the gin pole, when it collapsed and they fell". Who in the hell ties off to a gin pole? On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > We were working in Cedar Hills, Texas when this same company lost three > tower guys near Joe Poole

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not. Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked. On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc- > net-neutrality-isp > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Use an adjustable beam version...good way to visualize On Sep 27, 2017 8:28 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: Shine a flashlight through a bush. If you're lucky sometimes the light reflects off multiple leaves onto roughly the same spot. (Constructive reflection) On Sep 27,

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Above example to get variance\variability across woul be smash the fingers on a table, then smash the fingers in a tub of water. The finger smashing in the wayer would have less force, theyd understand that. I wish everybody had the mindset of those who grew up in the 50s, where smashing fingers

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
I understand phase cancellation, you understand phase cancellation. Now imagine youd never seen an oscilliscope. Visualize that On Sep 27, 2017 9:54 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Look up phase cancellation > > On Sep 27, 2017 8:49 PM, "Steve Jones"

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Here you go Stevie.. https://goo.gl/images/958nWE On Sep 27, 2017 8:54 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Look up phase cancellation > > On Sep 27, 2017 8:49 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > >> Laymen, laymen, laymen. >> >> How do i visualize the fact

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
"Sometimes the wind blows and the leaves move. This changes where the light moves." Almost everything in RF can be visualized with light. Some things are harder than others (ducting for example). On Sep 27, 2017 9:49 PM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Laymen, laymen, laymen.

Re: [AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Unless i see that the web interface gives me enough insight into my consumption, i can guarantee this meter and every meter in my neighborhood will require visual readings. I have 3 alvarion 900mhz fhss access points and subscribers that ensures that On Sep 27, 2017 9:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Thats for us jaime, imagine youre explaining to your grandmother why you cant give her internet On Sep 27, 2017 9:58 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Here you go Stevie.. > https://goo.gl/images/958nWE > > On Sep 27, 2017 8:54 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Headlights on hilly area roads...you see glow as it grows and then boom..brights in your eyes... On Sep 27, 2017 9:00 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > "Sometimes the wind blows and the leaves move. This changes where the > light moves." > > Almost everything in RF can be

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Thats line of site On Sep 27, 2017 10:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Headlights on hilly area roads...you see glow as it grows and then > boom..brights in your eyes... > > On Sep 27, 2017 9:00 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > >> "Sometimes the wind

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Were we fucked 4 years ago? On Sep 27, 2017 9:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > There's some points that are obviously wrong, and some that are not. > > Also, as consumers, if net neutrality is repealed we are fucked. > > On Sep 27, 2017 8:27 PM, "Steve Jones"

[AFMUG] Chapter 63 - Tales from the Towers posted

2017-09-27 Thread Rory Conaway
http://muniwireless.com/2017/09/27/tales-towers-chapter-63-growing-pains/ Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net "A hot dog at the game

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Rory Conaway
No middleware necessary. Everything goes back to the server. Runs on Roku and Android devices. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:55 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV Rory, Are you doing the whole middle ware

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
How so? It depends on which session. Sometimes we at least had lube, or there was the threat of getting fucked, but we just hadn't been moved into the same cell block of our admirer yet. Sometimes we just got "raw dogged". On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Even two lights doesnt cancel, it mixes. Remember, im looking for laymen. This is to explain to the boss why particular customers need fired, and then to explain to the customer why they are being fired so they dont go nuclear on usnin our coverage area On Sep 27, 2017 10:06 PM, "Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > Thats line of site > > On Sep 27, 2017 10:06 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: >> >> Headlights on hilly area roads...you see glow as it grows and then >> boom..brights in your eyes... >> >> On

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/27/17 2:52 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are already doing it, such as HBO. It's starting to get annoying though where everyone is starting to offer their own online

Re: [AFMUG] AT & T Rural broadband

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Theyre replacing a tower here five feet from the current tower. I assume my bosses taxes are helping to fund this assholes On Sep 27, 2017 6:50 PM, "Tushar Patel" wrote: https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/27/att-rural-wireless- internet-expands-to-9-more-states/

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Directvnow has Syfy... I'm not sure if any of the others do or not, but I would assume so. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > I'd like to have Syfy OTT, that's not an option yet, is it? > > On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 4:54 PM,

[AFMUG] AT & T Rural broadband

2017-09-27 Thread Tushar Patel
https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/27/att-rural-wireless-internet-expands-to-9 -more-states/

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
I just signed up for the youtube tv trial. I like that when you hit the plus button on a series it gives you a season pass on the series as part of the record option. I don’t like the channel guide, unless I have not found it yet. I like the directv style of guide. From: Roger Timmerman

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Roger Timmerman
There were a few things it took me a while to find. For a guide of what's currently on click on the Live icon. For future stuff, best to just search for it. It takes some getting used to. I'm about a week in, and I really like it now that I'm used to it. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 3:16 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread chuck
I get all my favorite pay channels on OTT now. From: Jason McKemie Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV There is going to be a tipping point where all the big networks have to start selling OTT, or lose customers. A few networks are

[AFMUG] Pai is not getting the love

2017-09-27 Thread Rory Conaway
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/27/16374136/ajit-pai-fcc-net-neutrality-isp Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO 4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040 602-426-0542 r...@triadwireless.net www.triadwireless.net "A hot dog at the game

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Dude im drunk, as usual, and that exceeded my level of wtf did he say On Sep 27, 2017 10:08 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: How so? It depends on which session. Sometimes we at least had lube, or there was the threat of getting fucked, but we just hadn't been moved into the

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
If nn had existed on day one, at wouldnt have built long lines and wed all still be taught morse code in school... thats the only real On Sep 27, 2017 11:50 PM, "Nathan Anderson" wrote: > +1 > > > > Also, if we are going to waste time on hypotheticals, why don't people > also

Re: [AFMUG] Pai is not getting the love

2017-09-27 Thread Rory Conaway
Sorry guys, didn't realize this was already posted. My bad. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Pai is not getting the love

Re: [AFMUG] AT & T Rural broadband

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Off the topic, but we have a customer who keeps trying to get our cs to ise the term broadband. Hes limited to 6x2 and thinks (semi correctly) he can fule an fcc complaint if they use that word. Hes also accused us of violating federal monopoly laws because we have an exclusive contract on the

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Shut up george, dont make logical sense On Sep 28, 2017 12:25 AM, "George Skorup" wrote: > I thought half or most of the issue was the "edge providers"? > > Consumer wants edge providers' content. > Edge provider makes money from the consumer. Advertising. The content

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Fing george On Sep 28, 2017 12:34 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > Shut up george, dont make logical sense > > On Sep 28, 2017 12:25 AM, "George Skorup" > wrote: > >> I thought half or most of the issue was the "edge providers"? >> >> Consumer

Re: [AFMUG] AT & T Rural broadband

2017-09-27 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
I need to hear the voicemails On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:30 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > Off the topic, but we have a customer who keeps trying to get our cs to > ise the term broadband. Hes limited to 6x2 and thinks (semi correctly) he > can fule an fcc complaint if

Re: [AFMUG] AT & T Rural broadband

2017-09-27 Thread Mathew Howard
I don't really see how redefining "broadband" to 10/1 is a bad thing... shouldn't that mean that other companies wouldn't (in theory, anyway) be able to get funding to overbuild areas where we are already providing 10mbps, which they currently could, unless we have at least 25mbps? On Sep 28,

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
This is a nice visual, but it doesnt show anything. Water ripples is all i can see right now to visualize. Could probably do full cancellation as well as degrees of attennuation Thinking out loud here... If i had a tray of water, and a respectable camera. If i dropped a stone on the left

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Oil film on water. The colors are due to cancellation of some wavelengths. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin-film_interference From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 9:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please) Ductings easy, i

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread George Skorup
I think Steve is saying, what was broken 4 years ago that needed NN to come fix it? On 9/27/2017 10:08 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: How so? It depends on which session. Sometimes we at least had lube, or there was the threat of getting fucked, but we just hadn't been moved into the same cell

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
But if therer wher a reflective wall, 180 psi (ish) would be reflected At 1 inch it would be 179 psi But loss isnt x over distance is it? Its percentage of power\distance?! Put this in laymens terms and a measurable input and measurable output on the recipient end On Sep 27, 2017 10:51 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Tower construction accident in Miami today

2017-09-27 Thread Jeremy
I haven't ever seen them. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Have you seen those gin poles used on large towers? I have turned down > high paying gigs on crews like these. Cranes near guyed towers...not my > cup of Tecate. > > On Sep 27, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
You need a wideband Cylink radio to knock them off the air..or an Engenius original long range cordless phone...they were 900mW handsets... On Sep 27, 2017 9:49 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Problem is, it'll still work. > > On 9/27/2017 9:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Mathew Howard
That's pretty much how I've always seen it... NN always seemed to me more of a solution to a problem that people were afraid might be there someday, which the market would more than likely take care of by itself if it actually does happen, than a solution to an actual real problem. On Sep 27,

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Nathan Anderson
+1 Also, if we are going to waste time on hypotheticals, why don't people also pause to consider how the internet of today may or may not have come to exist in its current form if NN was something already on the regulatory books the first day that it started carrying commercial traffic? --

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I am sure there are better examples, but this gives a rough audio analogy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCB8UTePQLE From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 7:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please) I have a location thats solely

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Chuck... make a water video. On Sep 27, 2017 10:38 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Oil film on water. The colors are due to cancellation of some > wavelengths. > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin-film_interference > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 27, 2017

Re: [AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread George Skorup
Problem is, it'll still work. On 9/27/2017 9:59 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Unless i see that the web interface gives me enough insight into my consumption, i can guarantee this meter and every meter in my neighborhood will require visual readings. I have 3 alvarion 900mhz fhss access points and

Re: [AFMUG] Multipath fading for a laymen (visuals please)

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
If i punch water (giving it a hypothetical 2d plane) with 360 psi pressure, it should send 1 psi out in each 1 degree? Correct? Each x distance of water absorbs y of that 1 psi? Say its 1psi per inch som meter would measure 0? 1/2 would measure .o5? On Sep 27, 2017 10:45 PM, "Steve Jones"

Re: [AFMUG] Tower construction accident in Miami today

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
They are huge and scary looking..World's Toughest Jobs show had episode on tall tower construction with these gin poles...impressive but I will not work on them...my Superman days are long gone On Sep 27, 2017 10:11 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: I haven't ever seen them. On Wed,

Re: [AFMUG] &*$@

2017-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
Nah, there was some configuration options in the last firmware release of baii. I think it was an engineers fuck you to motorola fsk, you can make them chatter across the band at full power. It costs you the whole 1.2mbps throughput, so i guess i wouldnt be able to run a good wisp on it, lol On

Re: [AFMUG] Wanna throw up in your mouth?

2017-09-27 Thread Jason McKemie
I'd think the big guys getting greedy (and being allowed to do as they wish with their networks) would only help the smaller providers. It's certainly possible that I'm missing something though. On Wednesday, September 27, 2017, George Skorup wrote: > I think Steve is

Re: [AFMUG] Gino

2017-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://www.elpasoproud.com/news/fort-bliss-soldiers-deploy-to-puerto-rico-to-help-with-hurricane-relief-efforts/819790978 On Sep 26, 2017 7:35 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > I saw that on news..they need gasoline for generators..I have seen the > COWs military uses

[AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Dave
Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are you working with? We are looking into Rodeo and RealChoice for this solution. Being that we are all wireless we want to be able to provide voip and some video with our

Re: [AFMUG] OTT-TV

2017-09-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
You already do. Its called Netflix and HULU. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:08 AM Dave wrote: > Anyone here doing Over The Top TV with their subs? > If so, What are some issues you deal with and which content provider are > you working with? > We are looking into Rodeo and