don't mess around with the low end, the sort of customers who want $100/mo
colocation for one server are more of a pain in the ass than they're worth.
the hosting/colo business has very thin margins.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:16 PM, TJ Trout via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Has anyone made a
Cambium PTP820c
Exalt ExtremeAir
Both will give you 1gig in a single radio.
Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net
530.272.4000
On 10/27/2014 03:25 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
Has anyone shopped full Gig licensed links lately, which is the best
bargain?
*Peter Kranz
We just put up a Ceragon IP20c link last week, 3.5 miles, one 60Mhz
frequency pair, 1030Mbps full duplex using 2048QAM, uses two cores
(same frequency) in a single FODU chasis and a combiner on the
antenna. Looks like any other single FODU install, very clean. Not
inexpensive however.
On Tue,
I used to run some medium sized colo. I concur with Eric's comment
below. However:
To get or keep 'smarter' and lower maintenance customers offer this type
of service:
-Offer PPP
--(Ping Pipe Power ONLY to the customer. HVAC is included.
-NO physical/unescorted access to their machine.
--If
Anyone know when Cambium is going to add a management IP address for ePMP
when configured to run NAT/PPPoE. The lack of management IP is really
getting to be a PIA.
Steve B.
We have had success on both ends of the spectrum. We have a number of “shared
colo” customers who pay $99/month for 1-2U of space and get 10Mb/s of bandwidth
included. They must visit physically during regular business hours or
additional charges apply. Then we have full rack customers who
I haven't looked at mine for 6 months, still on the bench. On the newest
firmware are you able to view SNMP or IP via the AP interface, and maybe
clickable links? Last time I looked I could only see the MAC address and
stats
Heith
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of
I wonder if 10 minutes of runtime remaining with a 10% load means the thing can
run a full load for 1 minute?
From: Adam Moffett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 8:31 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] APC load in watts
This is the first time I've ever taken a very close look at the
Use myq phone application
On Oct 28, 2014 7:18 AM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I have a double steel garage door with Alumnium siding on the house. The
Remote's have always been finicky since the opener/door was installed, but
now I changed the lights in the Opener to LED Bulbs, and
On 10/28/14, 7:31 AM, Adam Moffett via Af wrote:
This is the first time I've ever taken a very close look at the
management page on one of the APC's here. I had been thinking they were
somebody else's problem.
Why do I see Load in Watts with a value of 10.4%? My first thought
was maybe the %
Many of these devices are in the 315 or 390 MHz range. I think 315 is more
common.
In free space, the quarter wavelength dimension of 315 MHz is about 18.75
inches.
Measure the wire coming out of the device. That will give you a hint. It is
probably a quarter wavelength long. If so,
Is that one winter in a non temperature controlled environment? I would assume
in an office environment they would be pretty stable.
From: That One Guy via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC load in watts
I only use that number to know when
For what it's worth since most people are not used to power factor (PF)
Power is measured as volts * amps * PF = Watts
VA ratings are volts * amps
For DC the power factor is effectively 1 and can be ignored (we are
talking supply power here... you RF guys don't need to go off on a
tangent
I am still pissed at getting marked wrong on an exam in college. Freshman EE
class.
The question was: What is Power Factor.
My answer: Cosine of the Phase Angle
I was right. They were wrong. I was robbed of some points. Somebody has to
pay someday...
From: Mark Radabaugh via Af
Sent:
thats how campus shootings start, somebody needs to get the FBI to chucks
house
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I am still pissed at getting marked wrong on an exam in college.
Freshman EE class.
The question was: What is Power Factor.
My answer:
I installed an adapter kit for these folks over the summer to get their
built in opener in their car to work with the one in their garage, it was a
tranciever that plugged into the wall outlet, I assume it was two circuits,
one for communicating with the opener and one for the car.
I suppose you
Great! I will need to look again, and try to find a place in this congested
network to finally deploy
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Jenkins via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 9:47 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP feature
Yep
I found room by replacing most of our Ubnt.
Matthew Jenkins
SmarterBroadband
m...@sbbinc.net
530.272.4000
On 10/28/2014 08:50 AM, Heith Petersen via Af wrote:
Great! I will need to look again, and try to find a place in this congested
network to finally deploy
-Original Message-
From:
Be happy you don't go to school now.
The whole online test and homework thing is completely asinine in most
implementations.
The kids spend more time trying to convince the computer that A+B is
correct when the computer insists it's only correct as B+A.
It's really nice when it's a test
http://exchange.nagios.org/directory/Plugins/Hardware/UPS/APC/check_apc-2Epl/details
In order to show output load in watts, the maximum power load
wattage must be included in the check. This can be found on your UPS
management page under the UPS tab and then About using the real
Had a very strange issue last night where all of the AP's and a backhaul
attached to a TS5 reset to defaults.
We are unclear as to what the cause was, we suspect it happened while a
backhaul was being moved from one mount to another. It's possible there is
a little corrosion on the pins that
yes it does, that has become standard after reprogramming an AP cluster
that werent labelled at the bottom end which radio was which in a snowstorm
at 8 oclock at night we wont be doing that again.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af
af@afmug.com wrote:
Had a
We run ejabberd on a small debian vm and use Gajim or Pandion for the
client. Ejabberd is configured to automatically show all users in the
contact list. Chat rooms work pretty well in addition to the IM
functionality.
On 10/27/2014 7:26 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af wrote:
run your own internal
Yes it does disable reset via POE. It does still leave recovery mode
enabled but I don't know if that works both via POE and the hardware button
or just the hardware button. Anyone?
-Ty
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:28 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
yes it does, that has become
Is that mount serious? I mean it may be convenient to mount on the other
side but c'mon. Any no place for the radio? Could have at least made a nice
spot on there for a radio on one of those plates so that you can put the
radio on the non-mount side. Weird.
-Ty
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM,
They are setup for an ePMP radio to attach to the plate on the non-mount side,
it's just not designed for a 450... looks like it worked fine to do it that way
though.
From: Af [af-boun...@afmug.com] on behalf of Ty Featherling via Af
[af@afmug.com]
Sent:
Ok okay so that circle with the 4 holes around it at the top maybe? If so
that's not so bad.
-Ty
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Mathew Howard via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
They are setup for an ePMP radio to attach to the plate on the non-mount
side, it's just not designed for a 450... looks
I take it you haven't assembled one of these before...
At least watch their demonstration video to know what's going on.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Not exactly, the antenna cables go through the big hole at the top and the four
holes around it are for attaching a cover that goes over the top of the radio.
The actual radio is held on with a hook at the top and a screw at the bottom...
it makes more sense if you're familiar with how the ePMP
I haven't used the ePMP line at all. I will educate myself.
-Ty
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Mike Hammett via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
I take it you haven't assembled one of these before...
At least watch their demonstration video to know what's going on.
-
Mike Hammett
http://www.ispradio.com/
http://www.ispradio.com/images/ispLogoWoodWhite.PNGTomorrow we Jack Lehmann
from Straight Path. We will be talking about 29/38Ghz Licensed options that
you don’t have to deal with the FCC on!
11am CST, 9am PST !
Don’t forgot you can download the previous
The back, or inside of the remote should also list the operating frequency.
bp
On 10/28/2014 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Many of these devices are in the 315 or 390 MHz range. I think 315 is
more common.
In free space, the quarter wavelength dimension of 315 MHz is about
18.75
Anyone doing this? Pros, cons?
Seems like an echo of the WISPA list a couple days ago.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Jerry Richardson (airCloud) via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:17:11 PM
Subject:
Wasn’t watching that list.
Yeah? Nay?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 12:18 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dielectric grease on RJ45 for radios
Seems like an echo of the WISPA list a couple days ago.
We have a local school district that put out a RFQ for Aerohive AP's:
http://www.aerohive.com/
Anyone ever worked with these before?
I've not heard of them until now.
I don't see why anyone would do this, if water gets into your RJ45, something
has failed and needs to be replaced.
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Richardson \(airCloud\) via Af af@afmug.com
Sender: Af af-boun...@afmug.com
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 19:17:11
To: af@afmug.comaf@afmug.com
It seems to be a normal thing that not a lot of people do, if that makes sense.
Someone (Ken, maybe?) even posted a screen shot of the Canopy manual showing
how much to put in.
I guess I'll start doing it.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Condensation\corrosion from non-running water as well.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: cstanners--- via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:39:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
I hadn't heard of them until a local school was talking about them as well.
They bought them and I haven't heard anything bad. I haven't heard anything
good either.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Robert
It was to address the potential of corrosion.
We got burned yesterday where moving an active backhaul somehow sent a reset
signal to all of the AP's. The only think I can think of is that the
connector might have had some corrosion.
Crazy shit.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
It's absolutely helpful.
We put it both inside the RJ45 before inserting the wire and on the jack
before inserting the connector. It avoids a whole host of Ethernet
issues with minor corrosion on the connectors. Keep in mind we are
using these in environments where humidity and
Some people get corrosion just from moisture and/or salt in the air.
It's not about leaking if that's what you're saying.
But no, we don't do it here. Might be a good idea, but it seems like it
would be a mess later.
I don't see why anyone would do this, if water gets into your RJ45,
http://www.ispradio.com/
http://www.ispradio.com/images/ispLogoWoodWhite.PNGTomorrow we Jack Lehmann
from Straight Path. We will be talking about 29/38Ghz Licensed options that
you don’t have to deal with the FCC on!
11am CST, 9am PST !
Don’t forgot you can download the previous
Joint venture between Gino and Beehive
(removing tongue from cheek)
From: Robert Haas via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 1:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Aerohive AP's
We have a local school district that put out a RFQ for Aerohive AP’s:
http://www.aerohive.com/
Anyone ever
Open fire. It is AD integrated as well if you would like.
http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/
Charles Bender, President
Skynet Broadband ~ Biz IT Pros ~ Xpert PC Plus
1502 Cole Street, Enumclaw, WA 98022
(360) 802-6657 Fax (888) 522-7409
From: Af
It is cheap insurance.
I'd rather be overprotective than have an outage due to pride.
Nothing is perfect. I've got equipment that has been in the air since 2008
without so much as a hiccup. I've got a few customers that apparently every
time it rains they funnel it into their CPE.
Grease
Robert,
If they are open to other products, we can offer you Ruckus, HP, or Aruba.
Mark Chamerlik
WAV(r), Inc
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Haas via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Aerohive AP's
We have a local school
Usually when a bid goes out for specific equipment through a local bid,
either they already have some or the fix is in.
Rory
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Super WISP via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2014 2:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerohive AP's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh5oYmTURhc
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 3:31 PM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv
--
All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if
The SAF links were around $15k-16k with dishes and accessories etc (I
think, I don't buy stuff I just make it work)
Again, call a distributor or Daniel at SAF :)
On Monday, October 27, 2014, Keefe John via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
what's their pricing?
Keefe
On 10/27/2014 5:45 PM, Darin
Nope it just form fits on the radio, it should be snug.
On 10/28/2014 4:35 PM, Peter Kranz via Af wrote:
Are you supposed to add some kind of adhesive to keep the focus ring
from blowing off?
**
*-Peter*
It's FM (F@kin Magic)
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Are you supposed to add some kind of adhesive to keep the focus ring from
blowing off?
*-Peter*
99% of the time it will be at max modulation. Offering lots of cheaper
bandwidth compared to cellular hotspots fits many wisp business models...
-Jon
On Oct 28, 2014, at 6:22 PM, Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
yeah, 2048QAM, but what is your fade margin from the threshold required
What do ya engineer it for? Most of the licensed stuff I've dealt with has been
engineered to be hotter than -40.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Eric Kuhnke via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent:
We've always done it.. it has no cons that I am aware of and all pros.
Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com mailto:pkr...@unwiredltd.com
From: Af
I'd think one con would be dust and other crap getting in the silicon.
Probably not a big con, but nonetheless.
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014, Peter Kranz via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We’ve always done it.. it has no cons that I am aware of and all pros…
*Peter Kranz*Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
The old ones (with the screw in the back) needed some double-stick tape
to hold them in place. We found they wanted to twist or ride up like
cheap undershorts.
The new ones (without the screw) seem to fit pretty snuggly. We still
put some double stick (outdoor flavor) under the tab at the
Or thereabouts. Our newest link was engineered for -43. No smoke.
bp
On 10/28/2014 4:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
What do ya engineer it for? Most of the licensed stuff I've dealt with
has been engineered to be hotter than -40.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
We are a 1500 customer WISP that has been using Sandvine for the past
year for DPI and traffic prioritization. This has allowed us to change
to a different business model selling services instead of Mbps. These
are our residential tiers:
http://www.webformix.com/residential-services/
This is our
Powercode/procera prob best optionNETEQ is a little more simple but dose a lot
less
Pfsense with Ntop would be a free option but 99% more manual labor involved
—
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Stu Thom via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We are a 1500 customer WISP that has
I'd imagine most WISPs don't know who Sandvine is. IIRC, something like four of
the top five MSOs have Sandvine.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Stu Thom via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday,
http://www.ntop.org/products/ndpi/
ndpi is a fork of the opendpi project that was started by ipoque
Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com http://www.spitwspots.com
On 10/28/2014 07:30 PM, timothy steele via Af wrote:
Powercode/procera prob best option
NETEQ
Interesting stuff Josh, we had tried just ntop by itself a few times
years ago using port mirroring I think, and saw faulty numbers for
data used. I am not our network engineer, but in hindsight I would
have tried a few different ways to try to get it to work. How is the
accuracy and the frequency
Is the focus ring a 450 only product? Epmp?
On Oct 28, 2014 7:50 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
The old ones (with the screw in the back) needed some double-stick tape
to hold them in place. We found they wanted to twist or ride up like
cheap undershorts.
The new ones (without
I have two goals, mounting the bastard and grounding the bastard
If you knew the volume of fecal matter I have had to ea tot get this
achieved you would understand my very short fuse about dealing with
dickheads like me that I have.
I need to first mount this thing. Its likely to be a SAF link,
What's the top 3 fastest single radio's available right now? I'm assuming
it will be 80mhz and 2048qam+?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Bill Prince via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Or thereabouts. Our newest link was engineered for -43. No smoke.
bp
On 10/28/2014 4:37 PM, Mike Hammett via Af
What's pricing like on the sandvine stuff? Or is that a if you have to
ask kind of question?
On Tuesday, October 28, 2014, Stu Thom via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
We are a 1500 customer WISP that has been using Sandvine for the past
year for DPI and traffic prioritization. This has allowed us to
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