Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber drop ethernet on minimum modulation
Modulation? No. Link out? Yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 28, 2015 9:51 AM, Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com wrote: Does the AirFiber have, or will it have, an option to drop the data Ethernet port if RF modulation drops below defined level, and reenable it once the RF modulation gets back above said threshold and stays there for an appropriate length of time?
Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber drop ethernet on minimum modulation
They said it would, but it has been a while since they said it. Year or two? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:51:05 AM Subject: [AFMUG] AirFiber drop ethernet on minimum modulation Does the AirFiber have, or will it have, an option to drop the data Ethernet port if RF modulation drops below defined level, and reenable it once the RF modulation gets back above said threshold and stays there for an appropriate length of time?
Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber drop ethernet on minimum modulation
That would be a good feature, though. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Modulation? No. Link out? Yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 28, 2015 9:51 AM, Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com wrote: Does the AirFiber have, or will it have, an option to drop the data Ethernet port if RF modulation drops below defined level, and reenable it once the RF modulation gets back above said threshold and stays there for an appropriate length of time?
[AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Streaming live http://www.fcc.gov/live
[AFMUG] AirFiber drop ethernet on minimum modulation
Does the AirFiber have, or will it have, an option to drop the data Ethernet port if RF modulation drops below defined level, and reenable it once the RF modulation gets back above said threshold and stays there for an appropriate length of time?
Re: [AFMUG] AirFiber drop ethernet on minimum modulation
Right after Beam DFS LOL Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 28, 2015 10:00 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: They said it would, but it has been a while since they said it. Year or two? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Shayne Lebrun sleb...@muskoka.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:51:05 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] AirFiber drop ethernet on minimum modulation Does the AirFiber have, or will it have, an option to drop the data Ethernet port if RF modulation drops below defined level, and reenable it once the RF modulation gets back above said threshold and stays there for an appropriate length of time?
Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Anyone else get the feeling that this guy is simplifying things, throwing in a few lies, or perhaps just knows nothing about networking? I've always called my company an Internet Service Provider. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Streaming live http://www.fcc.gov/live
Re: [AFMUG] tower mount
The big issue with the 100' variety is the sides at the top are not big enough to put two feet in and if you move around to much you bend the supports up as they are so thin. But yes a climbed it a number of times. The issue with them is at 100' the engineered load is so small it is nearly impossible not to overload them. One omni AP is about all they can handle. Not that they won't stand for years with a lot more, but when really tested they fail. On Apr 27, 2015 11:18 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Dang man. You climb it? Every time we needed to work on it we laid it down. Last time the truck we hired to lay it down we ended up just using the lift truck to ride up and make the repairs. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 9:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower mount Yeah, we have two of these and they are flimsy as hell. I wouldn't do a 3' dish. I am putting a 2' on one, but staying as close to the bottom as possible. We inherited one that had a 2' halfway, and a bunch of 3' grids up top. It had been standing for 8 years. We removed all of the grids and added sectors. These things still scare the crap out of me. I have been pricing boom trucks because I hate climbing these so bad. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: Normally yes, but in this case guy wires would likely cause premature failure as I doubt the legs have the compression strength to sustain the additional load. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 6:12 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: Guy wires are your friend. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mano Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower mount do you have a link of that mount? From: Af af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 9:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] tower mount I had a few of those towers and I would not recommend mounting a 3' dish trip a single leg. They are really thin and tend to twist. Trylon makes a mount that runs across the face bolting to two legs. That way when you overload it it blows straight over instead of twisting around. On Apr 26, 2015 12:50 AM, Steve Utick sut...@gmail.com wrote: I've put a standard MTOW on our trylon by flipping the inside mount backwards and clamping the leg in the MTOW mount.You have to be up a bit so the legs are small enough to fit in between the bolts, but it's pretty sturdy. On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 11:39 PM, Ryan Mano rm...@corp.mdswireless.com wrote: need to mount a 3' dish to the leg of a trylon tower...am looking at WB but am not sure what to get...am guessing it would be something like a M-TOW-P? but from the picture the mount is attached to the leg of the tower is round in shape my tower is an L shape
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Obama. Nazis. Ancient Aliens. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:50:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power It's funny how fast we go off topic around here. :) On 4/28/2015 7:43 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Exactly my concern. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote And also didn't have a reputation for durability or long term dependability. On April 28, 2015 2:58:12 PM AKDT, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: blockquote They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: blockquote Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave woes
I believe Relay Networks just called me the other day with some. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Edward Brooks broo...@mt.net wrote: Does anyone out there have a Horizon Compact+ CHHP18B1C 18GHz High Band ODU with full cap key? We are having to limp along with a back-up right now due to our aging unit going mute. -Ed -- Edward Brooks *Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation* 406-443-3347 X506
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
On 4/28/15 5:57 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: I heard the first generation ubnt toughcable had about that failure rate? The lesson is if the product is named tough it will be exactly the opposite. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?
DC - Site monitor with shunt? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: Speaking of power monitoring – anyone have anything they like to monitor DC power consumption? This is for deployment in some datacenters where the DC connections come in directly from colo providers panels vs having a DC distribution in our cages… Thanks, Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter? http://www.nighthawksystems.com/ They might have something -Sean On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter. I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the landlord can check it out. Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini President
Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?
I have had good luck with a TED (The Energy Detective). They are like $300. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter. I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the landlord can check it out. Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini President
Re: [AFMUG] Kalamath Falls
Chuck, I just sent you an email. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Chilloquin actually. 8 miles south of town hwy 87 Anyone serve there?
Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..
This is why I am a firm believe in head-end shaping, especially for wireless networks. In the wireline model, shaping at the access node (before the CPE) can make more sense for various reasons. Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/28/2015 06:30 PM, David Milholen wrote: Gotcha... similar to sdp overload ... On 4/27/2015 8:59 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t think you’re understanding the situation that we are speculating is happening. He is using Cambium QoS. However, he is seeing twice that amount of traffic destined to the customer, the SM is throwing half of it away (as it should), and as a result the customer’s service sucks. The problem is that the sender is not observing traditional congestion control, it is not backing off the sending rate when it sees high packet loss. That’s why I say it is similar to a DoS attack, someone sending far more traffic than the subscriber can receive. *From:* David Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 7:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. This is why we like setting the QOS at the subscriber. If I remember the cambium burst allocation ignores tcp and udp and work strictly on a token bit system. We do not receive these complaints. The only time I hear them is if we get overloaded at the backhaul link. On 4/26/2015 8:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I think George forgot the sarcasm emoticon. Also note that the problem here is the edge provider is sending more than the customer’s plan rate, ignoring TCP congestion control. Not only does this consume Internet bandwidth over and above what the customer has subscribed to, it makes anything else the customer is trying to do on the Internet unusable because normal TCP is unusable with 50% packet loss. It is not surprising the customer calls saying his Internet is slow. There’s a saying that comes to mind, involving a 5 pound bag. *From:* Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. I see that the net neutrality is going to be the next boogieman under the bed for WISP's from now on... Please, please, please, correct your understanding on Net-Neutrality... It allows for one to traffic shape any and all kinds of traffic, as long as :- a) You declare your practice on your website. b) You DONT DO IT specific to A SPECIFIC Network.. i.e. all VOIP, or all Video, or ALL Streaming.. (applying a throttle on video to netflix while allowing Hulu would be considered a violation, but applying throttle to all types of video content is NOT !) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:12:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. So you'd be purposely slowing down or blocking legitimate traffic from an edge provider to the customer? Oh no, net neutrality violation! So when everyone starts with the 4k streaming and we're selling the customer 20Mbps, then we have to take on 40Mbps because of this!? On 4/26/2015 5:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I could justify declaring such traffic an attack and blocking the source as malicious. *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Yep, I see this all the time and Ken is exactly right. The Canopy QoS works exactly as designed, the AP is definitely not delivering more than the sustained rate, but is instead discarding the extra 50%. I've tested this situation thoroughly. Stick a MT simple queue in at the upstream router and the 2X rate traffic stops hitting the AP's ethernet interface, but it's still coming in at double the sustained rate farther upstream. There's no way around it except throwing bandwidth at it. This is CDN traffic. And when the customer thinks they can install one of those internet download managers to speed up their connection. The only thing it does is screw with TCP acks or window sizes or something which just puts more traffic on your transit just to be discarded at the congestion point (SM, queue, Procera, whatever). Gotta love it. You'd think with 70% of the internets being streaming video they'd think hmm.. maybe we
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Well if they really had experience in the field then Ubnt really screwed the pooch on that one. I've never seen 100% product failure before my couple of ToughSwitches. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?
Speaking of power monitoring – anyone have anything they like to monitor DC power consumption? This is for deployment in some datacenters where the DC connections come in directly from colo providers panels vs having a DC distribution in our cages… Thanks, Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter? http://www.nighthawksystems.com/ They might have something -Sean On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter. I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the landlord can check it out. Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini President
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
Look in the manual for gallons per hour fuel burn. Then run that calc against your tank size. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: How would I calculate estimated run time per tank of fuel for this? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tyfeatherl...@gmail.com'); wrote: I doubt it but it's the questions I don't ask or think I know that always seem to get me. -Ty On Apr 28, 2015 12:34 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','se...@rollernet.us'); wrote: On 4/28/15 8:40, Ty Featherling wrote: Is there any concern about sine vs square wave output on something like this? I want to get one but don't want to run into a gotcha I am unfamiliar with. It looks like an alternator. Is it even possible for a rotating alternator to output a square wave? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
True...but they will have a chart for the different load %. I always calculate off of 75% and it seems to be accurate and leave us some buffer. You could be conservative and use the 100% load value. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Will vary with load. *From:* Sean Heskett javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:34 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen Look in the manual for gallons per hour fuel burn. Then run that calc against your tank size. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tyfeatherl...@gmail.com'); wrote: How would I calculate estimated run time per tank of fuel for this? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Ty Featherling javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tyfeatherl...@gmail.com'); wrote: I doubt it but it's the questions I don't ask or think I know that always seem to get me. -Ty On Apr 28, 2015 12:34 PM, Seth Mattinen javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','se...@rollernet.us'); wrote: On 4/28/15 8:40, Ty Featherling wrote: Is there any concern about sine vs square wave output on something like this? I want to get one but don't want to run into a gotcha I am unfamiliar with. It looks like an alternator. Is it even possible for a rotating alternator to output a square wave? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@imaginenetworksllc.com'); wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@spitwspots.com'); wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com'); wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','pkr...@unwiredltd.com'); -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
OK, RTFM. So I assume the Lumina chassis isn't referenced to ground then? That's good because I'll probably be mixing this with other +48 equipment and I was hoping not to have to use any DC-DC converters. On 4/28/2015 5:02 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 4/28/15 14:38, Josh Luthman wrote: The CFIP Lumina accepts both polarities from what I'm told. I have only ever done it one way. Page 120 in the manual. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
And also didn't have a reputation for durability or long term dependability. On April 28, 2015 2:58:12 PM AKDT, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote: Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joshba...@gmail.com'); wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Exactly my concern. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: And also didn't have a reputation for durability or long term dependability. On April 28, 2015 2:58:12 PM AKDT, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote: They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@imaginenetworksllc.com'); wrote: People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
It's funny how fast we go off topic around here. :) On 4/28/2015 7:43 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Exactly my concern. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: And also didn't have a reputation for durability or long term dependability. On April 28, 2015 2:58:12 PM AKDT, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote: They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@imaginenetworksllc.com'); wrote: People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Sounds like the tagline of a new movie. Make it so Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 04/28/2015 04:52 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Obama. Nazis. Ancient Aliens. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:50:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power It's funny how fast we go off topic around here. :) On 4/28/2015 7:43 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Exactly my concern. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com mailto:j...@spitwspots.com wrote: And also didn't have a reputation for durability or long term dependability. On April 28, 2015 2:58:12 PM AKDT, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
I heard the first generation ubnt toughcable had about that failure rate? On Apr 28, 2015 6:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well if they really had experience in the field then Ubnt really screwed the pooch on that one. I've never seen 100% product failure before my couple of ToughSwitches. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
[AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?
We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter. I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the landlord can check it out. Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini President [cid:6253D44A-3FEA-41BA-B499-7D7EC9F29F94]
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
Will vary with load. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen Look in the manual for gallons per hour fuel burn. Then run that calc against your tank size. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: How would I calculate estimated run time per tank of fuel for this? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Ty Featherling javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tyfeatherl...@gmail.com'); wrote: I doubt it but it's the questions I don't ask or think I know that always seem to get me. -Ty On Apr 28, 2015 12:34 PM, Seth Mattinen javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','se...@rollernet.us'); wrote: On 4/28/15 8:40, Ty Featherling wrote: Is there any concern about sine vs square wave output on something like this? I want to get one but don't want to run into a gotcha I am unfamiliar with. It looks like an alternator. Is it even possible for a rotating alternator to output a square wave? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Truck booster install
Ha! We put it under passenger side seat. It ia going to help them a few miles on Highway 62 but for a 60 mile stretch there are no cell towers. Thursday we are headed to Orla Texas to install a BDA to improve service in a cement plant. Fun stuff Jaime Solorza On Apr 28, 2015 4:06 PM, Sam Lambie samtaos...@gmail.com wrote: Put that under your seat so your balls get a nice dose of sterilization! On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Worked well in a Ford 350 truck .. Jaime Solorza -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?
Hi Gino, Do a google search on electric sub-meter and you will find all flavors of them.. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:59:32 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter? We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter. I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the landlord can check it out. Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini President
Re: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions
I haven't had a chance to look through what people contributed yet, but currently, that's what it is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:33:15 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions Easy: Level 1: Call Mike Level 2: Call Mike Level 3: Call Mike Gino A. Villarini President From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 12:23 PM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions Super dependent on your back end systems, who has access to what and to what degree, at what point is it clearly defined that it needs escalation On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: It’s usually quite specific to your business and it’s objectives. Start with what promises you have made and wish to keep to your customers. Then vision calling into your company or emailing at 12 noon vs 12 midnight and how that should be handled. Step by step you can build the process this way. Along the way, how fast do you want to commit to answering the initial problem and how fast do want to commit to resolving the issue. This should help you get started…. Paul From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:31 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions I'm being asked for the following and I'm hoping to put something more sophisticated than just, E-mail me. Ideas? I'm assuming I will actually have to develop some procedures, but I don't really know where to start. # Quoting process / contact-escalation list # Ordering process / contact-escalation list # NOC process (including tickets and maintenance windows) / contact-escalation list - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Higher, if possible. I have cable that's never sat in the sun that has faded. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:57:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I heard the first generation ubnt toughcable had about that failure rate? On Apr 28, 2015 6:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well if they really had experience in the field then Ubnt really screwed the pooch on that one. I've never seen 100% product failure before my couple of ToughSwitches. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: blockquote They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: blockquote Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: blockquote Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: blockquote Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: blockquote I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote /blockquote
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Oh, I see. So you're saying Obama is an illegal alien nazi? I knew it, makes perfect sense now! Wait, I thought his white half was Irish? O'bama, duh! OK, I'm done. Thanks for the laugh. On 4/28/2015 7:52 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Obama. Nazis. Ancient Aliens. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSILhttps://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalbhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutionshttps://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestixhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchangehttps://twitter.com/mdwestix *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, April 28, 2015 7:50:25 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power It's funny how fast we go off topic around here. :)
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Hmm. Pretty close! I'm sure we still have at least 1 customer with that green cable. I remember replacing a couple of cables last year on towers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:57 PM, Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com wrote: I heard the first generation ubnt toughcable had about that failure rate? On Apr 28, 2015 6:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Well if they really had experience in the field then Ubnt really screwed the pooch on that one. I've never seen 100% product failure before my couple of ToughSwitches. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote: Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions
Easy: Level 1: Call Mike Level 2: Call Mike Level 3: Call Mike Gino A. Villarini President [cid:974D1C28-72C3-4AFF-B495-DEE09440FD24] From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.commailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Date: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 at 12:23 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions Super dependent on your back end systems, who has access to what and to what degree, at what point is it clearly defined that it needs escalation On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.orgmailto:p...@paulstewart.org wrote: It’s usually quite specific to your business and it’s objectives. Start with what promises you have made and wish to keep to your customers. Then vision calling into your company or emailing at 12 noon vs 12 midnight and how that should be handled. Step by step you can build the process this way. Along the way, how fast do you want to commit to answering the initial problem and how fast do want to commit to resolving the issue. This should help you get started…. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.commailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:31 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions I'm being asked for the following and I'm hoping to put something more sophisticated than just, E-mail me. Ideas? I'm assuming I will actually have to develop some procedures, but I don't really know where to start. # Quoting process / contact-escalation list # Ordering process / contact-escalation list # NOC process (including tickets and maintenance windows) / contact-escalation list - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com [http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] Dragonwave woes
Does anyone out there have a Horizon Compact+ CHHP18B1C 18GHz High Band ODU with full cap key? We are having to limp along with a back-up right now due to our aging unit going mute. -Ed -- Edward Brooks /Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation/ 406-443-3347 X506
Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave woes
Anyone know if the CHHP18B1CR1 will work in place of the CHHP18B1C ? -Ed -- Edward Brooks /Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation/ 406-443-3347 X506 On 4/28/2015 7:53 PM, Edward Brooks wrote: Thanks Josh On 4/28/2015 7:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I believe Relay Networks just called me the other day with some. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Edward Brooks broo...@mt.net mailto:broo...@mt.net wrote: Does anyone out there have a Horizon Compact+ CHHP18B1C 18GHz High Band ODU with full cap key? We are having to limp along with a back-up right now due to our aging unit going mute. -Ed -- Edward Brooks /Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation/ 406-443-3347 X506 tel:406-443-3347%20X506
Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..
Thanks for all the information about this that everyone shared, I now know that I'm not crazy. Although it sounds like we may have this as more of a problem in the future Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I’ve spotted exactly as George describes, torch at our border router sees way more traffic than I see at the SM or the customer’s router. I think one time I traced it to a Limelight Networks IP, but I didn’t write it down so I’m relying on memory so I could well be wrong. *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 10:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Yeah, it's almost always streaming video. Except the one guy I found running the download manager on his PC was doing USENET crap, probably porn, movies, music, etc. It's fairly easy to see what's going on. For instance, a customer is on 6x1 Canopy. There's 6Mbps RF downlink and 12Mbps Rx at AP's ethernet interface. This is all fine and dandy with Canopy because the AP controls the downlink traffic and doesn't put more on it than the QoS allows. Like Kurt, the first time I saw this, I was running the MT torch tool and thought the Canopy QoS was broken, too. Now, for UBNT or really anything else where the CPE does the limiting, the AP is sending all that traffic to the CPE. So now you have to resort to policing at an upstream router which I'd rather not do to keep the load off of the little MT routers. Even still, after you do that, all that extra traffic is still coming in on the backhaul, so all you've done is moved the problem, which helps relieve the AP stress, but it still sucks to have to take on double the traffic. You can move the limiting all the way to your border(s), but that extra traffic is still taking up bandwidth somewhere. On 4/27/2015 9:48 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I haven’t been following this thread closely, but has anyone identified the traffic? *From:* Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 8:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. If we could get Procera to create a signature for this type of behavior, then we could create a rule to restrict this traffic to some percentage less than 50% of the subscriber’s speed tier. This would perhaps have several desirable results: - if the CDN algorithm aims to oversubscribe the customer’s pipe by 2X, then making the pipe look 0.5X as small should counteract that - I would actually set it lower than 50%, the objective to have the customer say “XYZ service sucks” and complain to them or stop using them, rather than “my Internet sucks” - if we can pool our information about who is doing this (not just the CDN but the content provider paying them), we could complain directly to them, and if necessary take the position that blocking or throttling their traffic would be reasonable network management and allowable under net neutrality rules, since they are in effect attacking our network with a flood of traffic beyond what the customer has subscribed to Another approach would be to rate limit this traffic with a queue that has a very large buffer, introducing latency rather than packet loss, hoping that their algorithm recognizes late ACKs as a sign of congestion and will back off the sending rate. But when I asked Simon about buffer size in Procera, my understanding was that it’s more of a traffic policing box than a shaping box. *From:* Wireless Admin wirel...@htn.net *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 9:08 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Ken, Your assessment of the problem is exactly correct. I was going to compare it tor DoS as you did here. I don’t see an easy fix for this. Steve -- *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 10:00 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. I don’t think you’re understanding the situation that we are speculating is happening. He is using Cambium QoS. However, he is seeing twice that amount of traffic destined to the customer, the SM is throwing half of it away (as it should), and as a result the customer’s service sucks. The problem is that the sender is not observing traditional congestion control, it is not backing off the sending rate when it sees high packet loss. That’s why I say it is similar to a DoS attack, someone sending far more traffic than the subscriber can receive. *From:* David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 7:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Oh Thermal Camera Muse hear me my plea!
Had no idea you can change those lenses. Do they unscrew? From: Sean Heskett Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 8:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Oh Thermal Camera Muse hear me my plea! What about a gopro 3+ or 4 with the IR lens from ir-pro.com? They also sell already modified cameras if you don't want to mess with unscrewing the stock gopro lens or use a higher end camera instead. I've been using their IR-NDVI BLUE lenses with my drone to map some fields for a friend who's a farmer. Great products! And they won't break the bank. 2cents --sean On Monday, April 27, 2015, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: What's up hepcats? Can someone please point to an affordable (under $2000.00) thermal camera to be set up on a barricade system that comes from ground level to stop a car. Most I haves seen are overkill and in the 5 to 20 k range. Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
Do NOT assume 10% load means 10% fuel consumption, especially if it doesn’t have an eco-throttle mode or whatever that’s called. So if the load is 50 watts, a smaller generator might be better. But if it’s recharging your batteries, that’s different. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen Will vary with load. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen Look in the manual for gallons per hour fuel burn. Then run that calc against your tank size. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: How would I calculate estimated run time per tank of fuel for this? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Ty Featherling javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tyfeatherl...@gmail.com'); wrote: I doubt it but it's the questions I don't ask or think I know that always seem to get me. -Ty On Apr 28, 2015 12:34 PM, Seth Mattinen javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','se...@rollernet.us'); wrote: On 4/28/15 8:40, Ty Featherling wrote: Is there any concern about sine vs square wave output on something like this? I want to get one but don't want to run into a gotcha I am unfamiliar with. It looks like an alternator. Is it even possible for a rotating alternator to output a square wave? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
They had considerably more experience in the field. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: People bought Ubnt ToughSwitches!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:40 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com'); wrote: Haven't they only been making switches / in the electronics business for a short amount of time? Makes me wonder about long term dependability... On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','joshba...@gmail.com'); wrote: Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?
http://shop.openenergymonitor.com/emontx-v3-electricity-monitoring-transmitter-unit/ http://openenergymonitor.org/emon/ ryan On 4/28/15 4:59 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter. I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the landlord can check it out. Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini President -- D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc broadband | telco | colo | communities PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294 http://www.ngc457.com/
Re: [AFMUG] Remote SNMP AC Meter?
http://www.nighthawksystems.com/ They might have something -Sean On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: We have a rooftop that is requiring us to have a private AC meter. I was thinking one with remote web or snmp capability so that the landlord can check it out. Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini President
Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave woes
Thanks Josh On 4/28/2015 7:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I believe Relay Networks just called me the other day with some. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Edward Brooks broo...@mt.net mailto:broo...@mt.net wrote: Does anyone out there have a Horizon Compact+ CHHP18B1C 18GHz High Band ODU with full cap key? We are having to limp along with a back-up right now due to our aging unit going mute. -Ed -- Edward Brooks /Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation/ 406-443-3347 X506 tel:406-443-3347%20X506
Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..
Is there a wireshark capture I could review.. Do we know what is triggering it? On 4/27/2015 8:59 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t think you’re understanding the situation that we are speculating is happening. He is using Cambium QoS. However, he is seeing twice that amount of traffic destined to the customer, the SM is throwing half of it away (as it should), and as a result the customer’s service sucks. The problem is that the sender is not observing traditional congestion control, it is not backing off the sending rate when it sees high packet loss. That’s why I say it is similar to a DoS attack, someone sending far more traffic than the subscriber can receive. *From:* David Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 7:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. This is why we like setting the QOS at the subscriber. If I remember the cambium burst allocation ignores tcp and udp and work strictly on a token bit system. We do not receive these complaints. The only time I hear them is if we get overloaded at the backhaul link. On 4/26/2015 8:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I think George forgot the sarcasm emoticon. Also note that the problem here is the edge provider is sending more than the customer’s plan rate, ignoring TCP congestion control. Not only does this consume Internet bandwidth over and above what the customer has subscribed to, it makes anything else the customer is trying to do on the Internet unusable because normal TCP is unusable with 50% packet loss. It is not surprising the customer calls saying his Internet is slow. There’s a saying that comes to mind, involving a 5 pound bag. *From:* Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. I see that the net neutrality is going to be the next boogieman under the bed for WISP's from now on... Please, please, please, correct your understanding on Net-Neutrality... It allows for one to traffic shape any and all kinds of traffic, as long as :- a) You declare your practice on your website. b) You DONT DO IT specific to A SPECIFIC Network.. i.e. all VOIP, or all Video, or ALL Streaming.. (applying a throttle on video to netflix while allowing Hulu would be considered a violation, but applying throttle to all types of video content is NOT !) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:12:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. So you'd be purposely slowing down or blocking legitimate traffic from an edge provider to the customer? Oh no, net neutrality violation! So when everyone starts with the 4k streaming and we're selling the customer 20Mbps, then we have to take on 40Mbps because of this!? On 4/26/2015 5:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I could justify declaring such traffic an attack and blocking the source as malicious. *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Yep, I see this all the time and Ken is exactly right. The Canopy QoS works exactly as designed, the AP is definitely not delivering more than the sustained rate, but is instead discarding the extra 50%. I've tested this situation thoroughly. Stick a MT simple queue in at the upstream router and the 2X rate traffic stops hitting the AP's ethernet interface, but it's still coming in at double the sustained rate farther upstream. There's no way around it except throwing bandwidth at it. This is CDN traffic. And when the customer thinks they can install one of those internet download managers to speed up their connection. The only thing it does is screw with TCP acks or window sizes or something which just puts more traffic on your transit just to be discarded at the congestion point (SM, queue, Procera, whatever). Gotta love it. You'd think with 70% of the internets being streaming video they'd think hmm.. maybe we can cut down on the peering congestion by NOT doing this crap. But no. On 4/26/2015 11:01 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Sorry to answer a question with a question, but are you measuring at the SM, or at some upstream router?
Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..
Gotcha... similar to sdp overload ... On 4/27/2015 8:59 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I don’t think you’re understanding the situation that we are speculating is happening. He is using Cambium QoS. However, he is seeing twice that amount of traffic destined to the customer, the SM is throwing half of it away (as it should), and as a result the customer’s service sucks. The problem is that the sender is not observing traditional congestion control, it is not backing off the sending rate when it sees high packet loss. That’s why I say it is similar to a DoS attack, someone sending far more traffic than the subscriber can receive. *From:* David Milholen mailto:dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 7:05 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. This is why we like setting the QOS at the subscriber. If I remember the cambium burst allocation ignores tcp and udp and work strictly on a token bit system. We do not receive these complaints. The only time I hear them is if we get overloaded at the backhaul link. On 4/26/2015 8:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I think George forgot the sarcasm emoticon. Also note that the problem here is the edge provider is sending more than the customer’s plan rate, ignoring TCP congestion control. Not only does this consume Internet bandwidth over and above what the customer has subscribed to, it makes anything else the customer is trying to do on the Internet unusable because normal TCP is unusable with 50% packet loss. It is not surprising the customer calls saying his Internet is slow. There’s a saying that comes to mind, involving a 5 pound bag. *From:* Faisal Imtiaz mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. I see that the net neutrality is going to be the next boogieman under the bed for WISP's from now on... Please, please, please, correct your understanding on Net-Neutrality... It allows for one to traffic shape any and all kinds of traffic, as long as :- a) You declare your practice on your website. b) You DONT DO IT specific to A SPECIFIC Network.. i.e. all VOIP, or all Video, or ALL Streaming.. (applying a throttle on video to netflix while allowing Hulu would be considered a violation, but applying throttle to all types of video content is NOT !) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:12:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. So you'd be purposely slowing down or blocking legitimate traffic from an edge provider to the customer? Oh no, net neutrality violation! So when everyone starts with the 4k streaming and we're selling the customer 20Mbps, then we have to take on 40Mbps because of this!? On 4/26/2015 5:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I could justify declaring such traffic an attack and blocking the source as malicious. *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Yep, I see this all the time and Ken is exactly right. The Canopy QoS works exactly as designed, the AP is definitely not delivering more than the sustained rate, but is instead discarding the extra 50%. I've tested this situation thoroughly. Stick a MT simple queue in at the upstream router and the 2X rate traffic stops hitting the AP's ethernet interface, but it's still coming in at double the sustained rate farther upstream. There's no way around it except throwing bandwidth at it. This is CDN traffic. And when the customer thinks they can install one of those internet download managers to speed up their connection. The only thing it does is screw with TCP acks or window sizes or something which just puts more traffic on your transit just to be discarded at the congestion point (SM, queue, Procera, whatever). Gotta love it. You'd think with 70% of the internets being streaming video they'd think hmm.. maybe we can cut down on the peering congestion by NOT doing this crap. But no. On 4/26/2015 11:01 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Sorry to answer a question with a question, but are you measuring at the SM, or at some upstream router? The reason I ask, is I have seen
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
Microsoft. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to begin with? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You're very welcome. Just remember to type redist after your search and you'll save your sanity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Longtime customer got one of our postcard mailings. Calls saying “I see you have high speed Internet now.” From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 9:50 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security I stopped saying ISP years ago. As soon as Canopy was invented we became a broadband provider. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security Anyone else get the feeling that this guy is simplifying things, throwing in a few lies, or perhaps just knows nothing about networking? I've always called my company an Internet Service Provider. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Streaming live http://www.fcc.gov/live
[AFMUG] Kalamath Falls
Chilloquin actually. 8 miles south of town hwy 87 Anyone serve there?
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
You're very welcome. Just remember to type redist after your search and you'll save your sanity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
Those guys that have one on of these on the Packetflux controller, How are you weathersealing the generator? Did you build a small enclosure around it? Put it in a building and plumb the exhaust? I'm guessing it's not just setting out to the weather with the plugs and controls exposed on the side. Nate On 4/28/2015 10:30 AM, Rob Genovesi wrote: It says it's CARB approved for all 50 states (and national parks): http://portablegeneratorguide.com/duromax-xp4850eh-dual-fuel-review/ Steve - are you able to do remote start/stop through PacketFlux? -Rob On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can't be sold in California.� It doesn't meet that CARB garbage so the rest of the country can benefit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com mailto:cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Did a container fall off a boat? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I did order one. Adam � *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Utick *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen � We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the event we don't have enough solar.� � Has been running great there so far. � On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969 � Adam �
Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
I stopped saying ISP years ago. As soon as Canopy was invented we became a broadband provider. From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:21 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security Anyone else get the feeling that this guy is simplifying things, throwing in a few lies, or perhaps just knows nothing about networking? I've always called my company an Internet Service Provider. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Streaming live http://www.fcc.gov/live
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
It says it's CARB approved for all 50 states (and national parks): http://portablegeneratorguide.com/duromax-xp4850eh-dual-fuel-review/ Steve - are you able to do remote start/stop through PacketFlux? -Rob On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can't be sold in California. It doesn't meet that CARB garbage so the rest of the country can benefit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Did a container fall off a boat? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I did order one. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Utick *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the event we don't have enough solar. Has been running great there so far. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969 Adam
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
Is there any concern about sine vs square wave output on something like this? I want to get one but don't want to run into a gotcha I am unfamiliar with. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The ebay listing says: Cannot be sold in or shipped to California Residents Ironically, it's located in La Verne, California. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Rob Genovesi r...@corp.coastside.net wrote: It says it's CARB approved for all 50 states (and national parks): http://portablegeneratorguide.com/duromax-xp4850eh-dual-fuel-review/ Steve - are you able to do remote start/stop through PacketFlux? -Rob On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can't be sold in California. It doesn't meet that CARB garbage so the rest of the country can benefit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Did a container fall off a boat? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I did order one. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Utick *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the event we don't have enough solar. Has been running great there so far. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969 Adam
[AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to begin with? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You're very welcome. Just remember to type redist after your search and you'll save your sanity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
Did a container fall off a boat? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I did order one. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Utick *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the event we don't have enough solar. Has been running great there so far. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969 Adam
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
Can't be sold in California. It doesn't meet that CARB garbage so the rest of the country can benefit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Did a container fall off a boat? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I did order one. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Utick *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the event we don't have enough solar. Has been running great there so far. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969 Adam
Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
One of the questions I get most often is What is broadband?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 7:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I stopped saying ISP years ago. As soon as Canopy was invented we
became a broadband provider.
*From:* Brett A Mansfield mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Anyone else get the feeling that this guy is simplifying things,
throwing in a few lies, or perhaps just knows nothing about networking?
I've always called my company an Internet Service Provider.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Streaming live
http://www.fcc.gov/live
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
I did order one. Adam From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Utick Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the event we don't have enough solar. Has been running great there so far. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969 hash=item27ee61d969 Adam
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave woes
DragonWave knew... They said that the two units are one and the same, its just a labeling thing. The first bunch of radios that went out did not have the R1 in the part number. If you send one in for repair with the old part number they put a new label with the same serial number and the updated part number on it when they send it back to you. -Ed -Original Message- From: Edward Brooks [broo...@mt.net] Date: 04/28/2015 08:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dragonwave woes Anyone know if the CHHP18B1CR1 will work in place of the CHHP18B1C ? -Ed -- Edward Brooks Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation 406-443-3347 X506 On 4/28/2015 7:53 PM, Edward Brooks wrote: Thanks Josh On 4/28/2015 7:41 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I believe Relay Networks just called me the other day with some. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 9:34 PM, Edward Brooks broo...@mt.netwrote: Does anyone out there have a Horizon Compact+ CHHP18B1C 18GHz High Band ODU with full cap key? We are having to limp along with a back-up right now due to our aging unit going mute. -Ed -- Edward Brooks Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation 406-443-3347 X506
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
They sell generator tents. http://www.amazon.com/GenTent-weather-safety-portable-generators/dp/B0088EVIR4?tag=pugen-20 Also one thing I have noticed about consumer grade generators, you are supposed to change the oil every 20 hours of runtime. Not sure anyone does that. But a consideration in a remote location. I know on my little Honda generator, changing the oil is a pain in the butt. It doesn’t look low or dirty after 20 hours. I also find it interesting that this generator has a 12VDC output, which I usually associate with inverter style generators. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 10:42 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen Those guys that have one on of these on the Packetflux controller, How are you weathersealing the generator? Did you build a small enclosure around it? Put it in a building and plumb the exhaust? I'm guessing it's not just setting out to the weather with the plugs and controls exposed on the side. Nate On 4/28/2015 10:30 AM, Rob Genovesi wrote: It says it's CARB approved for all 50 states (and national parks): http://portablegeneratorguide.com/duromax-xp4850eh-dual-fuel-review/ Steve - are you able to do remote start/stop through PacketFlux? -Rob On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can't be sold in California. It doesn't meet that CARB garbage so the rest of the country can benefit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Did a container fall off a boat? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I did order one. Adam  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Utick Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen  We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the event we don't have enough solar.  Has been running great there so far.  On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969  Adam Â
Re: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions
Super dependent on your back end systems, who has access to what and to what degree, at what point is it clearly defined that it needs escalation On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: It’s usually quite specific to your business and it’s objectives. Start with what promises you have made and wish to keep to your customers. Then vision calling into your company or emailing at 12 noon vs 12 midnight and how that should be handled. Step by step you can build the process this way. Along the way, how fast do you want to commit to answering the initial problem and how fast do want to commit to resolving the issue. This should help you get started…. Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 6:31 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions I'm being asked for the following and I'm hoping to put something more sophisticated than just, E-mail me. Ideas? I'm assuming I will actually have to develop some procedures, but I don't really know where to start. # Quoting process / contact-escalation list # Ordering process / contact-escalation list # NOC process (including tickets and maintenance windows) / contact-escalation list - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..
The other thing that really sucks about this is the SM is almost unmanageable with the VC being so overloaded. In this condition, you can use the AP LUID proxy to get into the SM just fine, but that's not really what I care about, dropped SNMP to/from the SM is the bigger issue. I suppose you could use the AP's SNMP proxy, but then you'd have to know the LUID, which changes on reboot, and is just not optimal. I wonder if Cambium can go back to prioritizing management in a future release. My memory is foggy, but I think this was hurting HP traffic a long, long time ago. On 4/28/2015 8:02 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thanks for all the information about this that everyone shared, I now know that I'm not crazy. Although it sounds like we may have this as more of a problem in the future Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: I’ve spotted exactly as George describes, torch at our border router sees way more traffic than I see at the SM or the customer’s router. I think one time I traced it to a Limelight Networks IP, but I didn’t write it down so I’m relying on memory so I could well be wrong. *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 10:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Yeah, it's almost always streaming video. Except the one guy I found running the download manager on his PC was doing USENET crap, probably porn, movies, music, etc. It's fairly easy to see what's going on. For instance, a customer is on 6x1 Canopy. There's 6Mbps RF downlink and 12Mbps Rx at AP's ethernet interface. This is all fine and dandy with Canopy because the AP controls the downlink traffic and doesn't put more on it than the QoS allows. Like Kurt, the first time I saw this, I was running the MT torch tool and thought the Canopy QoS was broken, too. Now, for UBNT or really anything else where the CPE does the limiting, the AP is sending all that traffic to the CPE. So now you have to resort to policing at an upstream router which I'd rather not do to keep the load off of the little MT routers. Even still, after you do that, all that extra traffic is still coming in on the backhaul, so all you've done is moved the problem, which helps relieve the AP stress, but it still sucks to have to take on double the traffic. You can move the limiting all the way to your border(s), but that extra traffic is still taking up bandwidth somewhere. On 4/27/2015 9:48 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I haven’t been following this thread closely, but has anyone identified the traffic? *From:* Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 8:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. If we could get Procera to create a signature for this type of behavior, then we could create a rule to restrict this traffic to some percentage less than 50% of the subscriber’s speed tier. This would perhaps have several desirable results: - if the CDN algorithm aims to oversubscribe the customer’s pipe by 2X, then making the pipe look 0.5X as small should counteract that - I would actually set it lower than 50%, the objective to have the customer say “XYZ service sucks” and complain to them or stop using them, rather than “my Internet sucks” - if we can pool our information about who is doing this (not just the CDN but the content provider paying them), we could complain directly to them, and if necessary take the position that blocking or throttling their traffic would be reasonable network management and allowable under net neutrality rules, since they are in effect attacking our network with a flood of traffic beyond what the customer has subscribed to Another approach would be to rate limit this traffic with a queue that has a very large buffer, introducing latency rather than packet loss, hoping that their algorithm recognizes late ACKs as a sign of congestion and will back off the sending rate. But when I asked Simon about buffer size in Procera, my understanding was that it’s more of a traffic policing box than a shaping box. *From:* Wireless Admin mailto:wirel...@htn.net *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 9:08 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Ken, Your assessment of the problem is exactly correct. I was going to compare it tor DoS as you did here. I don’t see an easy fix for this.
Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
100%.
And that's only the beginning.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 9:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Are you serious?
On April 28, 2015 6:59:06 AM AKDT, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
One of the questions I get most often is What is broadband?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 7:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I stopped saying ISP years ago. As soon as Canopy was invented
we became a broadband provider.
*From:* Brett A Mansfield mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Anyone else get the feeling that this guy is simplifying things,
throwing in a few lies, or perhaps just knows nothing about
networking?
I've always called my company an Internet Service Provider.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Streaming live
http://www.fcc.gov/live
--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
Damn them and their free software. On 4/28/2015 12:32 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: +1 yup.. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!! Microsoft. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to begin with? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You're very welcome. Just remember to type redist after your search and you'll save your sanity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
+1 yup.. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!! Microsoft. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to begin with? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You're very welcome. Just remember to type redist after your search and you'll save your sanity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Are you serious?
On April 28, 2015 6:59:06 AM AKDT, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the questions I get most often is What is broadband?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 7:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I stopped saying ISP years ago. As soon as Canopy was invented we
became a broadband provider.
*From:* Brett A Mansfield mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Anyone else get the feeling that this guy is simplifying things,
throwing in a few lies, or perhaps just knows nothing about
networking?
I've always called my company an Internet Service Provider.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Streaming live
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[AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused.
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
How would I calculate estimated run time per tank of fuel for this? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt it but it's the questions I don't ask or think I know that always seem to get me. -Ty On Apr 28, 2015 12:34 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 4/28/15 8:40, Ty Featherling wrote: Is there any concern about sine vs square wave output on something like this? I want to get one but don't want to run into a gotcha I am unfamiliar with. It looks like an alternator. Is it even possible for a rotating alternator to output a square wave? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
On 4/28/15 14:38, Josh Luthman wrote: The CFIP Lumina accepts both polarities from what I'm told. I have only ever done it one way. Page 120 in the manual. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused.
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Even more so if they start shipping the DC versions. On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:07 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
The CFIP Lumina accepts both polarities from what I'm told. I have only ever done it one way. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 5:35 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused.
Re: [AFMUG] Truck booster install
Put that under your seat so your balls get a nice dose of sterilization! On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 3:29 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Worked well in a Ford 350 truck .. Jaime Solorza -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com http://www.newmex.com
Re: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power
Netonix sounds more and more badass every day. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Lumina can run off a netonix HV port, which is 48+. On April 28, 2015 2:02:29 PM AKDT, Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com wrote: I don't think this is abnormal.. The Dragonwave Compact says -48v DC.. but it actually ships with a +48V power supply.. You hook it up in reverse to the power injector. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 2:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] SAF Lumina power I thought all the SAF stuff was +48, but the CFIP Lumina FODU datasheet says -48? Is this the built-in DC-DC converter thing? I'm confused. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] Oh Thermal Camera Muse hear me my plea!
Yeah on the gopro hero 3+ and 4 they unscrew. The earlier ones (like the hero 3 2) you have to disassemble a lot of the camera. There's a lot of videos on YouTube. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Had no idea you can change those lenses. Do they unscrew? *From:* Sean Heskett javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us'); *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 8:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com'); *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Oh Thermal Camera Muse hear me my plea! What about a gopro 3+ or 4 with the IR lens from ir-pro.com? They also sell already modified cameras if you don't want to mess with unscrewing the stock gopro lens or use a higher end camera instead. I've been using their IR-NDVI BLUE lenses with my drone to map some fields for a friend who's a farmer. Great products! And they won't break the bank. 2cents --sean On Monday, April 27, 2015, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','losguyswirel...@gmail.com'); wrote: What's up hepcats? Can someone please point to an affordable (under $2000.00) thermal camera to be set up on a barricade system that comes from ground level to stop a car. Most I haves seen are overkill and in the 5 to 20 k range. Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
High speed seems to be the right word for customers, just clarify it isn't
satellite. The satellite guys are (wrongly) calling their service high
speed.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Some people think it means DOCSIS, some think it means a MiFi or
Hughesnet. Some probably think it is a female musical ensemble.
http://broadbandgirls.net/
I’ve had plenty of people say I want “high speed” but I don’t want
“broadband”. What’s broadband? I don’t know, but I don’t want it.
What’s the difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don’t know, and I don’t care.
*From:* Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:55 AM
*To:* Motorola III af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
100%.
And that's only the beginning.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 9:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Are you serious?
On April 28, 2015 6:59:06 AM AKDT, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
part15...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the questions I get most often is What is broadband?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 7:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I stopped saying ISP years ago. As soon as Canopy was invented we
became a broadband provider.
*From:* Brett A Mansfield li...@silverlakeinternet.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Anyone else get the feeling that this guy is simplifying things,
throwing in a few lies, or perhaps just knows nothing about networking?
I've always called my company an Internet Service Provider.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Streaming live
http://www.fcc.gov/live
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Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
On 4/28/15 9:21, Ken Hohhof wrote: I also find it interesting that this generator has a 12VDC output, which I usually associate with inverter style generators. Those little pick-up portable Coleman Powermate generators had 12V outputs since a long time ago. ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
On 4/28/15 8:40, Ty Featherling wrote: Is there any concern about sine vs square wave output on something like this? I want to get one but don't want to run into a gotcha I am unfamiliar with. It looks like an alternator. Is it even possible for a rotating alternator to output a square wave? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Some people think it means DOCSIS, some think it means a MiFi or Hughesnet.
Some probably think it is a female musical ensemble.
http://broadbandgirls.net/
I’ve had plenty of people say I want “high speed” but I don’t want “broadband”.
What’s broadband? I don’t know, but I don’t want it.
What’s the difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don’t know, and I don’t care.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:55 AM
To: Motorola III
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
100%.
And that's only the beginning.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 9:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Are you serious?
On April 28, 2015 6:59:06 AM AKDT, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
wrote:
One of the questions I get most often is What is broadband?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 7:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I stopped saying ISP years ago. As soon as Canopy was invented we became
a broadband provider.
From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:21 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Anyone else get the feeling that this guy is simplifying things, throwing
in a few lies, or perhaps just knows nothing about networking?
I've always called my company an Internet Service Provider.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Streaming live
http://www.fcc.gov/live
--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..
Was it Mark who suggested bringing this to NANOG? I like that. Maybe anyone who sees this should track down who is sourcing the traffic and then follow up with the customer to find out what app or service they were using. Post to this list. When enough information is collected, someone who participates in NANOG brings it up there. If that doesn’t work, maybe try publicly shaming the service. If Netflix can shame ISPs for being slow, ISPs should be able to shame edge providers for aggressive TCP acceleration techniques that push other traffic aside. Speaking of which, it doesn’t address this exact topic, but Sandvine had an interesting blog post (somewhat dated) about streaming traffic and its tendency to push regular web traffic aside, and the commercial incentives for “selfish” behavior. It should be mandatory reading for any regulators who the technical issues are simple, and the incentives are all stacked on the side of the mean old ISPs trying to throttle the virtuous content and edge providers. https://www.sandvine.com/downloads/general/global-internet-phenomena/2013/exposing-the-technical-and-commercial-factors-underlying-internet-quality-of-experience.pdf From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. The other thing that really sucks about this is the SM is almost unmanageable with the VC being so overloaded. In this condition, you can use the AP LUID proxy to get into the SM just fine, but that's not really what I care about, dropped SNMP to/from the SM is the bigger issue. I suppose you could use the AP's SNMP proxy, but then you'd have to know the LUID, which changes on reboot, and is just not optimal. I wonder if Cambium can go back to prioritizing management in a future release. My memory is foggy, but I think this was hurting HP traffic a long, long time ago. On 4/28/2015 8:02 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thanks for all the information about this that everyone shared, I now know that I'm not crazy. Although it sounds like we may have this as more of a problem in the future Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I’ve spotted exactly as George describes, torch at our border router sees way more traffic than I see at the SM or the customer’s router. I think one time I traced it to a Limelight Networks IP, but I didn’t write it down so I’m relying on memory so I could well be wrong. From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:29 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Yeah, it's almost always streaming video. Except the one guy I found running the download manager on his PC was doing USENET crap, probably porn, movies, music, etc. It's fairly easy to see what's going on. For instance, a customer is on 6x1 Canopy. There's 6Mbps RF downlink and 12Mbps Rx at AP's ethernet interface. This is all fine and dandy with Canopy because the AP controls the downlink traffic and doesn't put more on it than the QoS allows. Like Kurt, the first time I saw this, I was running the MT torch tool and thought the Canopy QoS was broken, too. Now, for UBNT or really anything else where the CPE does the limiting, the AP is sending all that traffic to the CPE. So now you have to resort to policing at an upstream router which I'd rather not do to keep the load off of the little MT routers. Even still, after you do that, all that extra traffic is still coming in on the backhaul, so all you've done is moved the problem, which helps relieve the AP stress, but it still sucks to have to take on double the traffic. You can move the limiting all the way to your border(s), but that extra traffic is still taking up bandwidth somewhere. On 4/27/2015 9:48 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I haven’t been following this thread closely, but has anyone identified the traffic? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 8:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. If we could get Procera to create a signature for this type of behavior, then we could create a rule to restrict this traffic to some percentage less than 50% of the subscriber’s speed tier. This would perhaps have several desirable results: - if the CDN algorithm aims to oversubscribe the customer’s pipe by 2X, then making the pipe look 0.5X as small should counteract that - I would actually set it lower than 50%, the objective to have the customer say “XYZ service sucks” and complain to them or stop using them, rather than “my Internet sucks” - if we can pool our information about who is doing
Re: [AFMUG] Kalamath Falls
The incumbent has a wisp I think On Apr 28, 2015 8:04 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Chilloquin actually. 8 miles south of town hwy 87 Anyone serve there?
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0l-Ac7fTU -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:55:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!! Damn them and their free software. On 4/28/2015 12:32 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: +1 yup.. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!! Microsoft. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to begin with? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You're very welcome. Just remember to type redist after your search and you'll save your sanity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
I doubt it but it's the questions I don't ask or think I know that always seem to get me. -Ty On Apr 28, 2015 12:34 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 4/28/15 8:40, Ty Featherling wrote: Is there any concern about sine vs square wave output on something like this? I want to get one but don't want to run into a gotcha I am unfamiliar with. It looks like an alternator. Is it even possible for a rotating alternator to output a square wave? ~Seth
Re: [AFMUG] Oh Thermal Camera Muse hear me my plea!
here's a link to the thermal cameras that ir-pro.com has http://www.ir-pro.com/thermal-cameras/ On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: What's up hepcats? Can someone please point to an affordable (under $2000.00) thermal camera to be set up on a barricade system that comes from ground level to stop a car. Most I haves seen are overkill and in the 5 to 20 k range. Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] Kalamath Falls
A guy there is on hughesnet and is wondering if there is something better. From: TJ Trout Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:31 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Kalamath Falls The incumbent has a wisp I think On Apr 28, 2015 8:04 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Chilloquin actually. 8 miles south of town hwy 87 Anyone serve there?
Re: [AFMUG] Oh Thermal Camera Muse hear me my plea!
I prefer these over gopro, but I'm not sure if they have any thermal or IR options. http://contour.com/cameras?mc_cid=8651fa1368mc_eid=3f8e58ccc0 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Yeah on the gopro hero 3+ and 4 they unscrew. The earlier ones (like the hero 3 2) you have to disassemble a lot of the camera. There's a lot of videos on YouTube. On Tuesday, April 28, 2015, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Had no idea you can change those lenses. Do they unscrew? *From:* Sean Heskett *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 8:55 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Oh Thermal Camera Muse hear me my plea! What about a gopro 3+ or 4 with the IR lens from ir-pro.com? They also sell already modified cameras if you don't want to mess with unscrewing the stock gopro lens or use a higher end camera instead. I've been using their IR-NDVI BLUE lenses with my drone to map some fields for a friend who's a farmer. Great products! And they won't break the bank. 2cents --sean On Monday, April 27, 2015, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: What's up hepcats? Can someone please point to an affordable (under $2000.00) thermal camera to be set up on a barricade system that comes from ground level to stop a car. Most I haves seen are overkill and in the 5 to 20 k range. Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
Hehe.. yeah, I now work in an extremely heavy Windows environment .. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Tyler Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 1:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu0l-Ac7fTU -- Christopher Tyler MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Services 417.851.1107 - Original Message - From: Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:55:28 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!! Damn them and their free software. On 4/28/2015 12:32 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: +1 yup.. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!! Microsoft. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to begin with? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You're very welcome. Just remember to type redist after your search and you'll save your sanity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..
Yeah...at one time management traffic was higher priority than high priority. On a congested AP you could make your VoIP call jittery by loading the Sessions page. On 4/28/2015 1:06 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote: The other thing that really sucks about this is the SM is almost unmanageable with the VC being so overloaded. In this condition, you can use the AP LUID proxy to get into the SM just fine, but that's not really what I care about, dropped SNMP to/from the SM is the bigger issue. I suppose you could use the AP's SNMP proxy, but then you'd have to know the LUID, which changes on reboot, and is just not optimal. I wonder if Cambium can go back to prioritizing management in a future release. My memory is foggy, but I think this was hurting HP traffic a long, long time ago. On 4/28/2015 8:02 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thanks for all the information about this that everyone shared, I now know that I'm not crazy. Although it sounds like we may have this as more of a problem in the future Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: I’ve spotted exactly as George describes, torch at our border router sees way more traffic than I see at the SM or the customer’s router. I think one time I traced it to a Limelight Networks IP, but I didn’t write it down so I’m relying on memory so I could well be wrong. *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 10:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Yeah, it's almost always streaming video. Except the one guy I found running the download manager on his PC was doing USENET crap, probably porn, movies, music, etc. It's fairly easy to see what's going on. For instance, a customer is on 6x1 Canopy. There's 6Mbps RF downlink and 12Mbps Rx at AP's ethernet interface. This is all fine and dandy with Canopy because the AP controls the downlink traffic and doesn't put more on it than the QoS allows. Like Kurt, the first time I saw this, I was running the MT torch tool and thought the Canopy QoS was broken, too. Now, for UBNT or really anything else where the CPE does the limiting, the AP is sending all that traffic to the CPE. So now you have to resort to policing at an upstream router which I'd rather not do to keep the load off of the little MT routers. Even still, after you do that, all that extra traffic is still coming in on the backhaul, so all you've done is moved the problem, which helps relieve the AP stress, but it still sucks to have to take on double the traffic. You can move the limiting all the way to your border(s), but that extra traffic is still taking up bandwidth somewhere. On 4/27/2015 9:48 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I haven’t been following this thread closely, but has anyone identified the traffic? *From:* Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 8:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. If we could get Procera to create a signature for this type of behavior, then we could create a rule to restrict this traffic to some percentage less than 50% of the subscriber’s speed tier. This would perhaps have several desirable results: - if the CDN algorithm aims to oversubscribe the customer’s pipe by 2X, then making the pipe look 0.5X as small should counteract that - I would actually set it lower than 50%, the objective to have the customer say “XYZ service sucks” and complain to them or stop using them, rather than “my Internet sucks” - if we can pool our information about who is doing this (not just the CDN but the content provider paying them), we could complain directly to them, and if necessary take the position that blocking or throttling their traffic would be reasonable network management and allowable under net neutrality rules, since they are in effect attacking our network with a flood of traffic beyond what the customer has subscribed to Another approach would be to rate limit this traffic with a queue that has a very large buffer, introducing latency rather than packet loss, hoping that their algorithm recognizes late ACKs as a sign of congestion and will back off the sending rate. But when I asked Simon about buffer size in Procera, my understanding was that it’s more of a traffic policing box than a shaping box. *From:* Wireless Admin mailto:wirel...@htn.net *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 9:08 AM *To:* af@afmug.com
Re: [AFMUG] Oh Thermal Camera Muse hear me my plea!
Mobius cameras are similar to the contour and only 70$ and in my opinion are better image quality than gopro On Apr 28, 2015 11:46 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: here's a link to the thermal cameras that ir-pro.com has http://www.ir-pro.com/thermal-cameras/ On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: What's up hepcats? Can someone please point to an affordable (under $2000.00) thermal camera to be set up on a barricade system that comes from ground level to stop a car. Most I haves seen are overkill and in the 5 to 20 k range. Thanks Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390
Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
All marketing departments will eventually adopt all descriptive words to
make them all non-descriptive.
* Digital
* Carrier Grade
* Scalable
* Future Proof
* User Friendly
* High Speed
On 4/28/2015 1:19 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
High speed seems to be the right word for customers, just clarify it
isn't satellite. The satellite guys are (wrongly) calling their
service high speed.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
Some people think it means DOCSIS, some think it means a MiFi or
Hughesnet. Some probably think it is a female musical ensemble.
http://broadbandgirls.net/
I’ve had plenty of people say I want “high speed” but I don’t want
“broadband”. What’s broadband? I don’t know, but I don’t want it.
What’s the difference between ignorance and apathy?
I don’t know, and I don’t care.
*From:* Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:55 AM
*To:* Motorola III mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
100%.
And that's only the beginning.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 9:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
Are you serious?
On April 28, 2015 6:59:06 AM AKDT, Bill Prince
mailto:part15...@gmail.com wrote:
One of the questions I get most often is What is broadband?
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On 4/28/2015 7:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
I stopped saying ISP years ago. As soon as Canopy was
invented we became a broadband provider.
*From:* Brett A Mansfield mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:21 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] subscriber records - security
Anyone else get the feeling that this guy is simplifying
things, throwing in a few lies, or perhaps just knows
nothing about networking?
I've always called my company an Internet Service Provider.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Streaming live
http://www.fcc.gov/live
--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..
I guess the ultimate solution would be having more than two priority levels, but maybe it would be easier to make those internal priority options configurable by the end user? I feel like there's a feature request here, but keeping the request attainable makes it more likely to happen IMO. On 4/28/2015 3:35 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Yeah...at one time management traffic was higher priority than high priority. On a congested AP you could make your VoIP call jittery by loading the Sessions page. On 4/28/2015 1:06 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) wrote: The other thing that really sucks about this is the SM is almost unmanageable with the VC being so overloaded. In this condition, you can use the AP LUID proxy to get into the SM just fine, but that's not really what I care about, dropped SNMP to/from the SM is the bigger issue. I suppose you could use the AP's SNMP proxy, but then you'd have to know the LUID, which changes on reboot, and is just not optimal. I wonder if Cambium can go back to prioritizing management in a future release. My memory is foggy, but I think this was hurting HP traffic a long, long time ago. On 4/28/2015 8:02 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Thanks for all the information about this that everyone shared, I now know that I'm not crazy. Although it sounds like we may have this as more of a problem in the future Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com http://www.wavelinc.com/ tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote: I’ve spotted exactly as George describes, torch at our border router sees way more traffic than I see at the SM or the customer’s router. I think one time I traced it to a Limelight Networks IP, but I didn’t write it down so I’m relying on memory so I could well be wrong. *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) mailto:geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 10:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Yeah, it's almost always streaming video. Except the one guy I found running the download manager on his PC was doing USENET crap, probably porn, movies, music, etc. It's fairly easy to see what's going on. For instance, a customer is on 6x1 Canopy. There's 6Mbps RF downlink and 12Mbps Rx at AP's ethernet interface. This is all fine and dandy with Canopy because the AP controls the downlink traffic and doesn't put more on it than the QoS allows. Like Kurt, the first time I saw this, I was running the MT torch tool and thought the Canopy QoS was broken, too. Now, for UBNT or really anything else where the CPE does the limiting, the AP is sending all that traffic to the CPE. So now you have to resort to policing at an upstream router which I'd rather not do to keep the load off of the little MT routers. Even still, after you do that, all that extra traffic is still coming in on the backhaul, so all you've done is moved the problem, which helps relieve the AP stress, but it still sucks to have to take on double the traffic. You can move the limiting all the way to your border(s), but that extra traffic is still taking up bandwidth somewhere. On 4/27/2015 9:48 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I haven’t been following this thread closely, but has anyone identified the traffic? *From:* Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 8:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com mailto:af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. If we could get Procera to create a signature for this type of behavior, then we could create a rule to restrict this traffic to some percentage less than 50% of the subscriber’s speed tier. This would perhaps have several desirable results: - if the CDN algorithm aims to oversubscribe the customer’s pipe by 2X, then making the pipe look 0.5X as small should counteract that - I would actually set it lower than 50%, the objective to have the customer say “XYZ service sucks” and complain to them or stop using them, rather than “my Internet sucks” - if we can pool our information about who is doing this (not just the CDN but the content provider paying them), we could complain directly to them, and if necessary take the position that blocking or throttling their traffic would be reasonable network management and allowable under net neutrality rules, since they are in effect attacking our network with a flood of traffic beyond what the customer has subscribed to Another approach would be to rate limit this traffic with a queue that has a very large buffer, introducing latency rather than packet loss, hoping that their algorithm recognizes late
Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen
The ebay listing says: Cannot be sold in or shipped to California Residents Ironically, it's located in La Verne, California. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Rob Genovesi r...@corp.coastside.net wrote: It says it's CARB approved for all 50 states (and national parks): http://portablegeneratorguide.com/duromax-xp4850eh-dual-fuel-review/ Steve - are you able to do remote start/stop through PacketFlux? -Rob On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can't be sold in California. It doesn't meet that CARB garbage so the rest of the country can benefit. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Did a container fall off a boat? On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:07 AM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: I did order one. Adam *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Utick *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 5:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like a great deal on a backup gen We've got almost that exact same generator at one of our solar sites hooked up to a PacketFlux Generator controller for backup power in the event we don't have enough solar. Has been running great there so far. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:52 PM, SmarterBroadband li...@smarterbroadband.com wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DuroMax-XP4850EH-Hybrid-Portable-Dual-Fuel-Propane-Gas-Camping-RV-Generator/171503114601?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item27ee61d969 Adam
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
Too true. Funny because my answer whenever some stupid problem with configuring or managing an iDevice occurs is Apple. Anyone that develops or engineers anything should be forced to use that product as intended/designed. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Microsoft. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to begin with? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You're very welcome. Just remember to type redist after your search and you'll save your sanity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty
