Re: [AFMUG] Lady bug deterrent

2015-12-27 Thread Mathew Howard
Fire is more satisfying. On Dec 27, 2015 9:15 AM, "Jeremy" wrote: > I use a shop vac. > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Jay Weekley > wrote: > >> That's my favorite suggestion. >> >> That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >> >>> >>> Copious amounts of

Re: [AFMUG] flooding....tornadoes....and a high of 76

2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Dallas area hammered by tornado.. some fatalities... On Dec 27, 2015 10:25 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Pretty blanketed still. Many churches cancelled services to keep folks > off streets. > On Dec 27, 2015 5:32 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Nothing is ever good enough for that damn state. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 27, 2015 1:23 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > We need about another 100 trillion... > > bp > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
haters. bp On 12/27/2015 10:48 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: Wow, truer words have never been spoken. Rory *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:39 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hey hold your caballos HolmesI was born in East LA ..really was.. lived in Downey for 2 yrs before dad moved us to Texas...I feel like Sheldon at times...trying to teach evolution to creationistslol. too too easy On Dec 27, 2015 11:39 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Yes but

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Rory Conaway
Wow, truer words have never been spoken. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on? Yes but only 1 in 10 Californians are true Americans... (buh du dum tis) From: Bill

[AFMUG] phone lines for Ethernet transmission

2015-12-27 Thread Chris Herrington
Did this some years ago, and now I need to do it again—use existing phone cabling for Ethernet cabling. 100Mbps OK for this application. I have seen a couple of solutions but they seem terribly expensive, at lease a lot more expensive than I remember. Thanks for any help finding

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I offered you a billion gallons of rain... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 27, 2015 1:20 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > I've sent a couple of messages this morning. The show up in my inbox, but > I'm not

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
We need about another 100 trillion... bp On 12/27/2015 10:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: I offered you a billion gallons of rain... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 27, 2015 1:20 PM, "Bill Prince"

Re: [AFMUG] OT: DJI Phantom 3 Pro, wireless protocol?

2015-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
FHSS maybe? Or possibly small channel size since it needs distance, not throughput. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 27, 2015 1:18 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > > My nephew got a new DJI Phantom 3 Pro model

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes but only 1 in 10 Californians are true Americans... (buh du dum tis) From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:33 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on? 1 of 10 Americans are Californians. bp On 12/27/2015 10:28 AM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] OT: DJI Phantom 3 Pro, wireless protocol?

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
They call it "auto-home". When you start it up, you calibrate the compass, and it records the starting point. Then you're supposed to just push the "Home" button, and it is supposed to fly back to that position and hover. When it started flying off into the distance, he pushed the home

Re: [AFMUG] Lady bug deterrent

2015-12-27 Thread Jay Weekley
That's my favorite suggestion. That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Copious amounts of fire On Dec 26, 2015 11:27 PM, "Jay Weekley" > wrote: Yeah, good luck. CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: i think we had a problem at jones

Re: [AFMUG] flooding....tornadoes....and a high of 76

2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Clearing up now but snow in the desert is hypnotic On Dec 27, 2015 10:31 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Dallas area hammered by tornado.. some fatalities... > On Dec 27, 2015 10:25 AM, "Jaime Solorza" > wrote: > >> Pretty blanketed still.

[AFMUG] How much energy is in a lightsaber

2015-12-27 Thread Rory Conaway
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Re: [AFMUG] flooding....tornadoes....and a high of 76

2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Pretty blanketed still. Many churches cancelled services to keep folks off streets. On Dec 27, 2015 5:32 AM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Sleet pummeled everything last night. Yesterday afternoon it was muggy and > 68. Front blew in, sleet, now 35. Seems like Jaime's really

Re: [AFMUG] OT: DJI Phantom 3 Pro, wireless protocol?

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
Possibly. Although the one he's got has a 4K camera. That's gotta use some bandwidth. bp On 12/27/2015 10:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: FHSS maybe? Or possibly small channel size since it needs distance, not throughput. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: DJI Phantom 3 Pro, wireless protocol?

2015-12-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Saw a thing on the interwebs yesterday about how to not crash your drone the first time you use it. Apparently they have something similar to an E Stop button that turns on the autopilot and flies them back to the starting poitn. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:23 AM

Re: [AFMUG] OT: DJI Phantom 3 Pro, wireless protocol?

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
The intent was to hover it a low level over his back yard. All the high-voltage lines, phone lines, and cable lines were street-side, so the air was clear over his back yard. Should have been easy. However, when I started up my sniffer, I was getting at least 30 WiFi hotspots in the area (on

[AFMUG] OT: DJI Phantom 3 Pro, wireless protocol?

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
My nephew got a new DJI Phantom 3 Pro model drone, and in the process of setting it up, I was trying to find the WiFi frequencies/protocols it was using to communicate between the controller and drone. Nothing showed up in my sniffer, so I wonder if it's using 802.11 at all. The specs

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Chuck McCown
You gotta have compassion for them, with all that extra cancer n stuff, makes ‘em cranky. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on? Nothing is ever good enough for that damn state. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] OT: DJI Phantom 3 Pro, wireless protocol?

2015-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
I've heard the same, should also kick in when the battery is low. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 27, 2015 1:27 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Saw a thing on the interwebs yesterday about how to not crash your

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Rory Conaway
I lived in California back in the early 80’s which is when I saw it going downhill. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 11:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on? haters. bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha On Dec 27, 2015 12:19 PM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > You realize, of course, that most Californians are from the other 49 > states. So you're just pointing your fingers back at yourselves. > > Quitters leave and mess up the other states. > > bp >

[AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
I've sent a couple of messages this morning. The show up in my inbox, but I'm not seeing them in the AF archive... -- bp

Re: [AFMUG] OT: DJI Phantom 3 Pro, wireless protocol?

2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
If it used FHSS it would be harder to jam... On Dec 27, 2015 11:23 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > FHSS maybe? Or possibly small channel size since it needs distance, not > throughput. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
1 of 10 Americans are Californians. bp On 12/27/2015 10:28 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: You gotta have compassion for them, with all that extra cancer n stuff, makes ‘em cranky. *From:* Josh Luthman *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
You realize, of course, that most Californians are from the other 49 states. So you're just pointing your fingers back at yourselves. Quitters leave and mess up the other states. bp On 12/27/2015 11:05 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: I lived in California back in the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: New Medical Diagnostic Codes in 2015

2015-12-27 Thread Bill Prince
Just checking... bp On 12/27/2015 10:06 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Science News published this in the latest issue. I'm intrigued by V91.07 regarding water skis on fire.

Re: [AFMUG] phone lines for Ethernet transmission

2015-12-27 Thread Colin Stanners
http://www.netsys-direct.com/product_p/nv-202ekit.htm The only cheaper option is probably back-to-back SDSL modems from eBay of the like, which will he slower. On Dec 27, 2015 2:22 PM, "Chris Herrington" wrote: > Did this some years ago, and now I need to do it again—use existing

Re: [AFMUG] Lady bug deterrent

2015-12-27 Thread Jeremy
I use a shop vac. On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Jay Weekley wrote: > That's my favorite suggestion. > > That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: > >> >> Copious amounts of fire >> >> On Dec 26, 2015 11:27 PM, "Jay Weekley" >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: DJI Phantom 3 Pro, wireless protocol?

2015-12-27 Thread Joe Novak
No other high voltage lines or anything like that right? It makes them act up too. If it wasn't so windy today it'd be a good day to go fly. On Sun, Dec 27, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > They call it "auto-home". When you start it up, you calibrate the compass, >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Rory Conaway
Many Californians aren’t from other states, they are from other countries. And they didn’t go through a legal process to get there. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 12:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
This is what happens when I discuss science with two friends of mine who are on the far right of things boom... On Dec 27, 2015 5:21 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Yeabut I was talkin’ bout the liberals... > > *From:* Rory Conaway > *Sent:* Sunday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Glen Waldrop
If they float then they are made of wood... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on? The problem is, liberals look just like people on the outside. You need to see if they weigh the same as a duck. From: Chuck McCown

[AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-27 Thread Glen Waldrop
We’ve had another lightning strike, at least the second one this year. I’ve got this feeling that our insurance company is probably going to start to get a little difficult in the near future. Who do you guys recommend? I’ve read about a few that cover everything, CPE, tower equipment, towers,

Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-27 Thread Craig House
2 in a year? We had 7 last night. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 27, 2015, at 21:22, Glen Waldrop wrote: > > We’ve had another lightning strike, at least the second one this year. > > I’ve got this feeling that our insurance company is probably going to start > to

Re: [AFMUG] phone lines for Ethernet transmission

2015-12-27 Thread Glen Waldrop
My link from my home to my father’s is over burial phone line. Two pair, twisted. Does 100Mb FD, or at least it did until we had a mouse chew through it. I’ve had the correct cable on hand for a decade or more, but the damn thing just keeps working. By the time we decide to upgrade we’ll have

Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-27 Thread Glen Waldrop
We only file if it is a complete shutdown. $500 deductible, no sense in filing anything below complete tower electronics loss. We've had more than 2 strikes this year, but only two that completely killed the towers. We actually had at least 3 hits since the 23rd. Not sure how many customers

Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-27 Thread Josh Luthman
Never made a claim for equipment... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 27, 2015 10:22 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > We’ve had another lightning strike, at least the second one this year. > > I’ve got this

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
You got better? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 10:01 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on? She turned me into a newt.. On Dec 27, 2015 8:20 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: If they float then they are made of wood... From:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Chuck McCown
The far right and the far left meet at the bottom of the circle. I like to troll both... From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:51 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on? This is what happens when I discuss science with two friends of mine who are on the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Ken Hohhof
The problem is, liberals look just like people on the outside. You need to see if they weigh the same as a duck. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 6:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on? Yeabut I was talkin’ bout the liberals... From: Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Chuck McCown
I once had an employee become a US citizen. We threw him a party. He started asking me about voting and parties and what the difference was. He was from Guatemala. This was in the mid 1980s. It ended up with me saying that I think the Republicans were more business friendly and the

Re: [AFMUG] new lake - filled in one day

2015-12-27 Thread Jay Weekley
I think the total was 8 inches in one day with more to come. We have it to spare. On December 27, 2015 11:09:56 AM CST, Bill Prince wrote: >Feel free to send any excess water to California... > >bp > > >On 12/26/2015 1:08 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD

2015-12-27 Thread Brian Sullivan
The latest firmware for the AF series (all models) now calculates the expected signal level it's on the Main screen of the GUI as "Ideal". It uses the GPS data to calculate FSL and assumes clear LOS. On 12/26/2015 11:46 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Ok, cool. -Original Message- From:

Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD

2015-12-27 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Oh, ok, that's even better! -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sullivan Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 5:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Airfiber 24 HD The latest firmware for the AF series (all models) now calculates the expected

Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-27 Thread Jay Weekley
We did that once for a lightning strike to one tower and after a tornado and had to find a new provider each time. I would limit claims to catastrophic event only and rely on the compassion of your fellow wisps if necessary . Josh Luthman wrote: Never made a claim for equipment... Josh

Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-27 Thread Glen Waldrop
Thanks. Normally I have at least an entire tower’s worth of equipment on hand, but I’ve been phasing out my old equipment and upgrading to 802.11n. Keep having to replace something, so spare parts are a tad lean at the moment. Parts on the UPS truck. They’ll probably be here long before the

Re: [AFMUG] phone lines for Ethernet transmission

2015-12-27 Thread Rory Conaway
Netsys products work really well. We have used them for almost 9 years. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 1:34 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] phone lines for Ethernet transmission

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeabut I was talkin’ bout the liberals... From: Rory Conaway Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2015 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on? Many Californians aren’t from other states, they are from other countries. And they didn’t go through a legal process to get there.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Josh Reynolds
Aye carumba On Dec 27, 2015 10:01 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > She turned me into a newt.. > On Dec 27, 2015 8:20 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > >> If they float then they are made of wood... >> >> >> >> *From:* Ken Hohhof >>

Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-27 Thread George Skorup
I'd have to ask the boss, but I think we're with Hartford. It's a per incident deductible. So if a storm comes through and takes out 10 towers, we pay once. Right now we only have core sites and any others with more than $5k worth of gear on it. And yes, generally, it's only used if we lose

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing on?

2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
She turned me into a newt.. On Dec 27, 2015 8:20 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > If they float then they are made of wood... > > > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Sunday, December 27, 2015 7:04 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This thing

Re: [AFMUG] WISP insurance

2015-12-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Let's us know if you need gear to get back up... On Dec 27, 2015 8:22 PM, "Glen Waldrop" wrote: > We’ve had another lightning strike, at least the second one this year. > > I’ve got this feeling that our insurance company is probably going to > start to get a little

Re: [AFMUG] flooding....tornadoes....and a high of 76

2015-12-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
Sleet pummeled everything last night. Yesterday afternoon it was muggy and 68. Front blew in, sleet, now 35. Seems like Jaime's really cold stuff is still one county to the NW. On Sun, Dec 27, 2015, 1:02 AM That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > In Illinois the weather is

Re: [AFMUG] Animal Farm

2015-12-27 Thread Lewis Bergman
TVWS huh? That would definitely would make them the loser. On Sat, Dec 26, 2015, 11:27 PM Jay Weekley wrote: > How about a Cambium versus Ubiquiti MMA style cage match? Ray against > Matt. Aaron against Ben. The loser develops a TV whitespace product. > > CBB - Jay