Re: [AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna

[TJ Trout]

Weboost is wilson re-branded

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Rory Conaway 
wrote:

> I’m not sure.  The customer had bought something called a Weboost.  We
> think the antenna had a direct short in it.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:17 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna
>
>
>
> Wilson and SureCall both have wide band yagi and panels with 700 to
> 2700mhz spread.   Tessco has a good selection of DAS antennas as well.
> Which amp did you get?
>
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:29 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
> Any suggestions on long-range, multi-band antennas?  It’s for a Wilson
> repeater and the cable is 100’ long or more.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “Baseball, it is said, is only a game.  True.  And the Grand Canyon is
> only a hole in Arizona”.  -  George Frederick Will
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna

[Rory Conaway]

I’m not sure.  The customer had bought something called a Weboost.  We think 
the antenna had a direct short in it.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:17 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna


Wilson and SureCall both have wide band yagi and panels with 700 to 2700mhz 
spread.   Tessco has a good selection of DAS antennas as well.   Which amp did 
you get?

On Aug 24, 2016 12:29 AM, "Rory Conaway" 
> wrote:
Any suggestions on long-range, multi-band antennas?  It’s for a Wilson repeater 
and the cable is 100’ long or more.

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO
4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

“Baseball, it is said, is only a game.  True.  And the Grand Canyon is only a 
hole in Arizona”.  -  George Frederick Will

Re: [AFMUG] 3.6 GHz Licenses for Sale?

[Graham McIntire]

We have a NN license I'd be happy to part with. It's completely useless in
our area around Dallas because of TowerStream. Hit me offlist and I'll make
a great deal.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I have a suspicion that a certain large WISP aggregator is tired of UL and
> will be a big bidder on PALs in their territories.*  Also from the
> standpoint of valuation, wireless companies tend to be valued based on
> their licensed spectrum holdings.  Even warehoused spectrum seems to
> increase valuation, as long as it’s licensed.  CBRS spectrum isn’t quite
> like 600 MHz or 2.5 GHz spectrum, but still probably viewed as an asset,
> unlike unlicensed.
>
> *based on lots of Part 101 upgrades without corresponding last mile
> upgrades, plus stated interest in LTE
>
>
> *From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists 
> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 12:14 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 3.6 GHz Licenses for Sale?
>
> Last I heard was MAYBE by the end of the 2nd quarter of 2017.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Aug 5, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Maybe Michael Anderson isn't using WQHV410.  Interesting the 2017
> expiration.  That's a reminder that most of them will be expiring in the
> next 1-2 years.  No worries, CBRS should be up and running by then, right?
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Sam Morris
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:17 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] 3.6 GHz Licenses for Sale?
>
> Does anyone have a (or know anyone who has a) 3.6-3.7 GHz license they
> aren't using and would like to sell (or donate)?
>
> Thanks
> Sam
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[Adam Moffett]

On the server authoritative for the [inverse ip].in-addr.arpa zone.


-- Original Message --
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
To: "af@afmug.com" 
Sent: 8/24/2016 8:50:55 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions


Im lost.
We have two production authoritative DNS servers for our domains and 
allocation
Im building the first of two recursive servers for our customers, and 
office


where would I actually put these records?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Josh Baird  
wrote:

For infrastructure:

vl[A]-[B][C].[D].net.domain.com

A = vlan-id
B = device type (irtr, artr, cr, etc)
C = device index (0, 1, 2, etc)
D = location id

Example:

vl7-artr1.dan100.net.domain.com

(vlan 7 interface of "artr1" at "dan100")

For customer/dymamic pools, we just do something simple like:

ip-1.2.3.4.cust.domain.com

Josh

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 wrote:
thats the space im talking about, infrastructure like 
---.domain.com for traceroutes 
(remote site matches my ip documentation and will help catch a 
forgotten update if we move a backhaul)
i guess alot of it is how much is enough, not enough, and too much, I 
assume i dont want  in it


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Jesse DuPont 
 wrote:

I pretty much stick to these:

dyn-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
static-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
.celerityinernet.com

I know it's forward notation, but I prefer to keep them simple.
Also valuable in some cases is setting a longer TTL value for your 
non-dynamic-use PTR records (like 86400 or 43200). It avoids you 
having to change them later when someone with a static IP gets black 
listed on a DUL email server list.


Also, right or wrong, I use loose geographical naming conventions 
(based on CLLI naming convention) for PTR records for L3 interfaces 
so traceroutes are more intuitive. So, one of our towers is called 
SDPB and it's in Spearfish so I might use 
"sprf-sdpb-ccr-eth1.celerityinternet.com". If nothing else, as the 
network grows, it's helpful internally.


Jesse DuPont

Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
Celerity Networks LLC

Celerity Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc

Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband

On 8/24/16 8:11 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
I know this is alot like asking which mail server is best or which 
cable to use. Im putting up a DNS server with our rfc1918 space 
thats in use on it. Ive been reading a ton of conventions people 
use, some granular, some vague.

anybody care to share some examples?

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
team.






--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Im lost.
We have two production authoritative DNS servers for our domains and
allocation
Im building the first of two recursive servers for our customers, and office

where would I actually put these records?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:42 AM, Josh Baird  wrote:

> For infrastructure:
>
> vl[A]-[B][C].[D].net.domain.com
>
> A = vlan-id
> B = device type (irtr, artr, cr, etc)
> C = device index (0, 1, 2, etc)
> D = location id
>
> Example:
>
> vl7-artr1.dan100.net.domain.com
>
> (vlan 7 interface of "artr1" at "dan100")
>
> For customer/dymamic pools, we just do something simple like:
>
> ip-1.2.3.4.cust.domain.com
>
> Josh
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> thats the space im talking about, infrastructure like
>> ---.domain.com for traceroutes
>> (remote site matches my ip documentation and will help catch a forgotten
>> update if we move a backhaul)
>> i guess alot of it is how much is enough, not enough, and too much, I
>> assume i dont want  in it
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Jesse DuPont <
>> jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I pretty much stick to these:
>>>
>>> dyn-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
>>> static-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
>>> .celerityinernet.com
>>>
>>> I know it's forward notation, but I prefer to keep them simple.
>>> Also valuable in some cases is setting a longer TTL value for your
>>> non-dynamic-use PTR records (like 86400 or 43200). It avoids you having to
>>> change them later when someone with a static IP gets black listed on a DUL
>>> email server list.
>>>
>>> Also, right or wrong, I use loose geographical naming conventions (based
>>> on CLLI naming convention) for PTR records for L3 interfaces so traceroutes
>>> are more intuitive. So, one of our towers is called SDPB and it's in
>>> Spearfish so I might use "sprf-sdpb-ccr-eth1.celerityinternet.com". If
>>> nothing else, as the network grows, it's helpful internally.
>>>
>>> *Jesse DuPont*
>>>
>>> Network Architect
>>> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
>>> Celerity Networks LLC
>>>
>>> Celerity Broadband LLC
>>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>>>
>>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
>>> On 8/24/16 8:11 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> I know this is alot like asking which mail server is best or which cable
>>> to use. Im putting up a DNS server with our rfc1918 space thats in use on
>>> it. Ive been reading a ton of conventions people use, some granular, some
>>> vague.
>>> anybody care to share some examples?
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] new GIGE-POE-APCs backwards?

[George Skorup]

Nope.

On 8/24/2016 7:19 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Are the tabs flipped from previous also?

-Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, August 
24, 2016 7:13 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] new GIGE-POE-APCs 
backwards?
Chuck, I just got some new ones dropped shipped from you today. They 
have the "POE" label on the RJ45 closest to the terminal block. These 
have always had the POE on the one opposite the terminal block. Are 
these just marked wrong?

Re: [AFMUG] new GIGE-POE-APCs backwards?

[Ken Hohhof]

Are the tabs flipped from previous also?

-Original Message- 
From: George Skorup 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 7:13 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] new GIGE-POE-APCs backwards? 

Chuck, I just got some new ones dropped shipped from you today. They 
have the "POE" label on the RJ45 closest to the terminal block. These 
have always had the POE on the one opposite the terminal block. Are 
these just marked wrong?

[AFMUG] new GIGE-POE-APCs backwards?

[George Skorup]

Chuck, I just got some new ones dropped shipped from you today. They 
have the "POE" label on the RJ45 closest to the terminal block. These 
have always had the POE on the one opposite the terminal block. Are 
these just marked wrong?

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Jaime Solorza]

It's not yours ese

On Aug 24, 2016 5:20 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" 
wrote:

>
> hahahh. no.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:35 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>
> is this your first day on this list?
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> What does a dead cochroach have to do with a force 180?
>> just sayin'.. ? LOL
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>> *To:* af 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:59 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>>
>> Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He
>>> said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down.
>>> '80s were fun times.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
 Eww

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

> Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the
> cockroaches
> disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's
> evidence
> that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
> everywhere. Bad example.
>
> On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> It is only empty when observed...
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>>
>> “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
>> an empty desk a sign?”
>>
>>
>> ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router
>>> just
>>> up
>>> and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>

 

 You just described me perfectly.

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
  wrote:

>
> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to
> work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin?
>> =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini <
>> ginovi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them
>>> for up
>>> to
>>> 3
>>> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>  wrote:
>>>

 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:

>
> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium
> Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>



>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

hahahh. no.

  - Original Message - 
  From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 5:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP


  is this your first day on this list?


  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  
wrote:


What does a dead cochroach have to do with a force 180?
just sayin'.. ? LOL

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP


  Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...



  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He 
said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down. '80s 
were fun times. 


On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

  Eww

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup  
wrote:

Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the 
cockroaches
disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's 
evidence
that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead 
ones
everywhere. Bad example.

On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  It is only empty when observed...

  -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

  “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, 
then, is
  an empty desk a sign?”


  ― Albert Einstein

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a 
router just
up
and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.

On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


  

  You just described me perfectly.

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
   wrote:


Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and 
come to
work
late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware



On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
 

wrote:


  Well of course the installers do.  What about the network 
admin? =P


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 

  wrote:


Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we 
use them for up
to
3
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:


  The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
   wrote:


What is the longest link anyone has done with a 
piar of Cambium
Force
180's?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390













  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Jaime Solorza]

Wow.  That's so damn kool.. Can I use it?

On Aug 24, 2016 5:02 PM, "Joshaven Mailing Lists" 
wrote:

Enjoy the enlightenment.



Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

A Tecate will open my mind to all these enlightened posts.

On Aug 24, 2016 4:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> is this your first day on this list?
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> What does a dead cochroach have to do with a force 180?
>> just sayin'.. ? LOL
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>> *To:* af 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:59 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>>
>> Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He
>>> said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down.
>>> '80s were fun times.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
 Eww

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

> Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the
> cockroaches
> disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's
> evidence
> that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
> everywhere. Bad example.
>
> On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> It is only empty when observed...
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>>
>> “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
>> an empty desk a sign?”
>>
>>
>> ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router
>>> just
>>> up
>>> and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>

 

 You just described me perfectly.

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
  wrote:

>
> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to
> work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin?
>> =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini <
>> ginovi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them
>>> for up
>>> to
>>> 3
>>> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>  wrote:
>>>

 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:

>
> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium
> Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>



>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

Enjoy the enlightenment. 



Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On Aug 24, 2016, at 6:49 PM, Jaime Solorza  wrote:
> 
> A Tecate will open my mind to all these enlightened posts.   
> 
> 
> On Aug 24, 2016 4:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm"  > wrote:
> is this your first day on this list?
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  > wrote:
>  
> What does a dead cochroach have to do with a force 180?
> just sayin'.. ? LOL
> - Original Message -
> From: Mathew Howard 
> To: af 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
> 
> Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  > wrote:
> My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He said 
> nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down. '80s 
> were fun times.
> 
> 
> On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> Eww
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup  > wrote:
> Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the cockroaches
> disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's evidence
> that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
> everywhere. Bad example.
> 
> On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> It is only empty when observed...
> 
> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
> 
> “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
> an empty desk a sign?”
> 
> 
> ― Albert Einstein
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup  > wrote:
> One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router just
> up
> and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.
> 
> On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> You just described me perfectly.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> > wrote:
> 
> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to
> work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
> 
> 
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman"  >
> 
> wrote:
> 
> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini  >
> wrote:
> 
> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up
> to
> 3
> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
> > wrote:
> 
> The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
> > wrote:
> 
> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium
> Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Jaime Solorza]

A Tecate will open my mind to all these enlightened posts.

On Aug 24, 2016 4:36 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> is this your first day on this list?
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> What does a dead cochroach have to do with a force 180?
>> just sayin'.. ? LOL
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Mathew Howard 
>> *To:* af 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:59 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>>
>> Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He
>>> said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down.
>>> '80s were fun times.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
 Eww

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

> Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the
> cockroaches
> disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's
> evidence
> that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
> everywhere. Bad example.
>
> On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> It is only empty when observed...
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>>
>> “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
>> an empty desk a sign?”
>>
>>
>> ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router
>>> just
>>> up
>>> and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>

 

 You just described me perfectly.

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
  wrote:

>
> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to
> work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin?
>> =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini <
>> ginovi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them
>>> for up
>>> to
>>> 3
>>> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>  wrote:
>>>

 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:

>
> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium
> Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>



>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

is this your first day on this list?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> What does a dead cochroach have to do with a force 180?
> just sayin'.. ? LOL
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *To:* af 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>
> Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He
>> said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down.
>> '80s were fun times.
>>
>>
>> On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>>> Eww
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the
 cockroaches
 disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's evidence
 that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
 everywhere. Bad example.

 On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

> It is only empty when observed...
>
> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>
> “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
> an empty desk a sign?”
>
>
> ― Albert Einstein
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router
>> just
>> up
>> and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.
>>
>> On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> You just described me perfectly.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>  wrote:
>>>

 Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to
 work
 late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware


 On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>

 wrote:

>
> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini <
> ginovi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for
>> up
>> to
>> 3
>> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>>  wrote:
>>>

 What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium
 Force
 180's?
 Thanks
 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Ken Hohhof]

I didn’t realize Pidgin was an IM client, and thought you were making fun of 
his grammar.  Which was maybe somewhat Yodaspeak but not pidgin.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:59 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

Pidgen now isn't it?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Aug 24, 2016 5:57 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

  I used it a lot about 12 years ago. Not so much anymore.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions

  Midwest Internet Exchange

  The Brothers WISP






--

  From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:14:09 PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?


  We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for 
interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration 
  the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different 
username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without configuring a 
boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login logout everytime 
you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and histories only logged on 
the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the same account as my workstation 
it wouldnt have the workstation history.

  trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects to 
your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple devices at 
the same time

  They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid client 
with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing and 
optional renewal

  It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient days 
it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my unsuspecting 
victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown, but is it still a 
toy software?


  -- 

  If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Eric Kuhnke]

pidgin is the client/GUI, the back end is libpurple which is the basis for
a lot of popular XMPP/Jabber type open source clients

https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/WhatIsLibpurple

https://developer.pidgin.im/



On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Pidgen now isn't it?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 5:57 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> I used it a lot about 12 years ago. Not so much anymore.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:14:09 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?
>>
>> We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
>> interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
>> the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
>> username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
>> configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login
>> logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
>> histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
>> same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
>>
>> trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it
>> connects to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from
>> multiple devices at the same time
>>
>> They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
>> client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing
>> and optional renewal
>>
>> It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
>> days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
>> unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown,
>> but is it still a toy software?
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Josh Luthman]

Pidgen now isn't it?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 24, 2016 5:57 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> I used it a lot about 12 years ago. Not so much anymore.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:14:09 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?
>
> We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
> interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
> the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
> username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
> configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login
> logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
> histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
> same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
>
> trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects
> to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
> devices at the same time
>
> They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
> client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing
> and optional renewal
>
> It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
> days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
> unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown,
> but is it still a toy software?
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Mike Hammett]

I used it a lot about 12 years ago. Not so much anymore. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "That One Guy /sarcasm"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:14:09 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM? 


We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for 
interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration 
the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different username 
on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without configuring a boot on 
the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login logout everytime you 
changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and histories only logged on the 
server, so if i popped on my laptop on the same account as my workstation it 
wouldnt have the workstation history. 


trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects to 
your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple devices at 
the same time 


They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid client 
with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing and 
optional renewal 


It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient days it 
was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my unsuspecting 
victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown, but is it still a 
toy software? 


-- 




If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. 

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Ken Hohhof]

Force 180 ... clean desk ... dead cockroach

Stream of consciousness.

What, you want him to read from a teleprompter and stay on message?  Where’s 
the fun in that?

USA, USA, USA!


From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP


What does a dead cochroach have to do with a force 180?
just sayin'.. ? LOL

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

  Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...


  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He 
said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down. '80s 
were fun times. 


On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

  Eww

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the 
cockroaches
disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's evidence
that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
everywhere. Bad example.

On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  It is only empty when observed...

  -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

  “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
  an empty desk a sign?”


  ― Albert Einstein

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup  
wrote:

One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router 
just
up
and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.

On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


  

  You just described me perfectly.

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
   wrote:


Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and 
come to
work
late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware



On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
 

wrote:


  Well of course the installers do.  What about the network 
admin? =P


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 

  wrote:


Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use 
them for up
to
3
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:


  The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
   wrote:


What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of 
Cambium
Force
180's?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Mathew Howard]

I'm pretty sure they're both somehow related to Einstein's messy desk.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:39 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller  wrote:

>
> What does a dead cochroach have to do with a force 180?
> just sayin'.. ? LOL
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Mathew Howard 
> *To:* af 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:59 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>
> Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
>> My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He
>> said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down.
>> '80s were fun times.
>>
>>
>> On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>>> Eww
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the
 cockroaches
 disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's evidence
 that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
 everywhere. Bad example.

 On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

> It is only empty when observed...
>
> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>
> “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
> an empty desk a sign?”
>
>
> ― Albert Einstein
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup 
> wrote:
>
>> One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router
>> just
>> up
>> and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.
>>
>> On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> You just described me perfectly.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>  wrote:
>>>

 Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to
 work
 late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware


 On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" <
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>

 wrote:

>
> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini <
> ginovi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for
>> up
>> to
>> 3
>> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>>  wrote:
>>>

 What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium
 Force
 180's?
 Thanks
 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

What does a dead cochroach have to do with a force 180?
just sayin'.. ? LOL

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mathew Howard 
  To: af 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP


  Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...



  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He 
said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down. '80s 
were fun times.


On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

  Eww

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the 
cockroaches
disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's evidence
that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
everywhere. Bad example.

On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  It is only empty when observed...

  -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

  “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
  an empty desk a sign?”


  ― Albert Einstein

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup  
wrote:

One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router 
just
up
and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.

On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


  

  You just described me perfectly.

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
   wrote:


Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and 
come to
work
late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware



On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 


wrote:


  Well of course the installers do.  What about the network 
admin? =P


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 

  wrote:


Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use 
them for up
to
3
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:


  The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
   wrote:


What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of 
Cambium
Force
180's?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Rick Harnish]

Yes Dan. That was the meaning of this sentence: Also, there is opportunistic use of licensed PAL spectrum, if it is not being used as governed by the SAS database.Respectively,Rick HarnishDirector of WISP MarketsDirect: 972.922.1443Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc.Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DroidOn Aug 24, 2016 4:22 PM, Dan Petermann  wrote:Isn’t the spectrum available for use until the PAL license holder actually starts transmitting?Isn’t that the whole point of the database?On Aug 24, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:There are approximately 500,000 PAL licenses, (7) 10 MHz per license per census tract. No company can buy more than four licenses per census tract. There is also an additional 80 MHz of GAA spectrum, which will include 3.65-3.7.  I would guess metro areas will go fairly high but rural areas not so much. Since the census tracts are so small, small WISPs may see more value in their coverage area than the big guys.In my opinion, this is the best opportunity for WISPs to gain access to affordable licensed spectrum ever. Also, there is opportunistic use of licensed PAL spectrum, if it is not being used as governed by the SAS database. Read the rules, keep up on the upcoming auction proceedings, identify the census tracts in your area and get prepared to bid!Respectively,Rick HarnishDirector of WISP MarketsDirect: 972.922.1443Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc.Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DroidOn Aug 24, 2016 2:45 PM, Jason McKemie  wrote:Maybe, I'm having a pessimistic kind of week.On Wednesday, August 24, 2016, Mike Hammett  wrote:I don't believe they can purchase all of the GAA, well, not one company anyway.I think you're also over-estimating the geographic reach that they'll be purchasing licenses in.-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISPFrom: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.comSent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:38:23 PMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghzThey could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though.  The 3.65 band is pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is.On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
  

  
  70 mhz is reserved for GAA


On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie
  wrote:


  Why not?
  
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe
  John 
  wrote:
  
They can't buy them all.
  
  
 
  On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
  
  
Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area. 
  Probably none of us could outbid those guys.
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS
  LTE in 3.5 ghz
 

  
Good
  thing or bad thing?
  
  

-
Mike
  Hammett
Intelligent Computing
  Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

  
  

  
  
 
  From:
"Gino Villarini" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016
12:23:38 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align
behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/

  
  

  

  
  

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Mike Hammett]

Yes. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Dan Petermann"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 4:22:28 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 

Isn’t the spectrum available for use until the PAL license holder actually 
starts transmitting? 


Isn’t that the whole point of the database? 



On Aug 24, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Rick Harnish < rick.harn...@baicells.com > wrote: 




There are approximately 500,000 PAL licenses, (7) 10 MHz per license per census 
tract. No company can buy more than four licenses per census tract. There is 
also an additional 80 MHz of GAA spectrum, which will include 3.65-3.7. 


I would guess metro areas will go fairly high but rural areas not so much. 
Since the census tracts are so small, small WISPs may see more value in their 
coverage area than the big guys. 


In my opinion, this is the best opportunity for WISPs to gain access to 
affordable licensed spectrum ever. Also, there is opportunistic use of licensed 
PAL spectrum, if it is not being used as governed by the SAS database. 


Read the rules, keep up on the upcoming auction proceedings, identify the 
census tracts in your area and get prepared to bid! 




Respectively, 


Rick Harnish 
Director of WISP Markets 
Direct: 972.922.1443 
Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc. 


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid 
On Aug 24, 2016 2:45 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > 
wrote: 


Maybe, I'm having a pessimistic kind of week. 

On Wednesday, August 24, 2016, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 



I don't believe they can purchase all of the GAA, well, not one company anyway. 

I think you're also over-estimating the geographic reach that they'll be 
purchasing licenses in. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Jason McKemie"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:38:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 


They could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though. The 3.65 band is 
pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is. 


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John  wrote: 




70 mhz is reserved for GAA 


On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: 



Why not? 


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John  wrote: 





They can't buy them all. 




On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 



Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area. Probably none of us could outbid those 
guys. 


-- Original Message -- 
From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 




Good thing or bad thing? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Gino Villarini"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 


http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
 

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Dan Petermann]

Isn’t the spectrum available for use until the PAL license holder actually 
starts transmitting?

Isn’t that the whole point of the database?

On Aug 24, 2016, at 2:02 PM, Rick Harnish  wrote:

> There are approximately 500,000 PAL licenses, (7) 10 MHz per license per 
> census tract. No company can buy more than four licenses per census tract. 
> There is also an additional 80 MHz of GAA spectrum, which will include 
> 3.65-3.7. 
> 
> I would guess metro areas will go fairly high but rural areas not so much. 
> Since the census tracts are so small, small WISPs may see more value in their 
> coverage area than the big guys.
> 
> In my opinion, this is the best opportunity for WISPs to gain access to 
> affordable licensed spectrum ever. Also, there is opportunistic use of 
> licensed PAL spectrum, if it is not being used as governed by the SAS 
> database.
> 
> Read the rules, keep up on the upcoming auction proceedings, identify the 
> census tracts in your area and get prepared to bid!
> 
> 
> Respectively,
> 
> Rick Harnish
> Director of WISP Markets
> Direct: 972.922.1443
> Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid
> On Aug 24, 2016 2:45 PM, Jason McKemie  
> wrote:
> Maybe, I'm having a pessimistic kind of week.
> 
> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> I don't believe they can purchase all of the GAA, well, not one company 
> anyway.
> 
> I think you're also over-estimating the geographic reach that they'll be 
> purchasing licenses in.
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Jason McKemie" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:38:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
> 
> They could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though.  The 3.65 band 
> is pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is.
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
> 70 mhz is reserved for GAA
> 
> On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
> Why not?
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
> They can't buy them all.
> 
> On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
> Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area.  Probably none of us could outbid 
> those guys.
>  
>  
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>  
> Good thing or bad thing?
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Gino Villarini" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
> 
> http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Bill Prince]

So the solution to cockroaches is to leave the lights on?

bp


On 8/24/2016 1:46 PM, George Skorup wrote:
Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the 
cockroaches disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? 
There's evidence that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, 
there's dead ones everywhere. Bad example.


On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

It is only empty when observed...

-Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
an empty desk a sign?”


― Albert Einstein

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup  
wrote:
One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router 
just up

and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.

On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:




You just described me perfectly.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:


Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come 
to work

late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware


On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 


wrote:


Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 


wrote:


Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them 
for up to

3
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:


The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:


What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of 
Cambium Force

180's?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Mathew Howard]

Well, that probably fixed the cockroach problems anyway...

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:53 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He
> said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house down.
> '80s were fun times.
>
>
> On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
>> Eww
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>>> Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the cockroaches
>>> disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's evidence
>>> that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
>>> everywhere. Bad example.
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
 It is only empty when observed...

 -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
 Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

 “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
 an empty desk a sign?”


 ― Albert Einstein

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup 
 wrote:

> One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router just
> up
> and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.
>
> On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
>>
>> 
>>
>> You just described me perfectly.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to
>>> work
>>> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini <
 ginovi...@gmail.com>
 wrote:

>
> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for
> up
> to
> 3
> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium
>>> Force
>>> 180's?
>>> Thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[George Skorup]

My dad told me that story when he was rehabbing houses 30 years ago. He 
said nope, I'm out. Then some crackheads ended up burning that house 
down. '80s were fun times.


On 8/24/2016 3:47 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:

Eww

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the cockroaches
disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's evidence
that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
everywhere. Bad example.

On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

It is only empty when observed...

-Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
an empty desk a sign?”


― Albert Einstein

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router just
up
and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.

On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:




You just described me perfectly.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:


Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to
work
late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware


On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
wrote:


Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:


Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up
to
3
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:


The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:


What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium
Force
180's?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Joe Novak]

+1 hangouts.

I really like Gapps though... sort of a sucker.



Joe

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Everybody has a company Android on our Apps domain, so we just use
> Hangouts.
>
> On 8/24/2016 3:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
> interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
> the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
> username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
> configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login
> logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
> histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
> same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
>
> trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects
> to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
> devices at the same time
>
> They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
> client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing
> and optional renewal
>
> It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
> days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
> unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown,
> but is it still a toy software?
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Josh Reynolds]

Slack allows multiple devices from the same account, with multiple
permissions / control levels per user/group. Also many NMS systems now
have slack support, so our outages, alarts, etc got send to a #NOC
channel

Really, try it out. It's free / easy for most things, depending on your needs.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:
> xabber seems to work well with openfire
>
> I did like some features of openfire like it could fetch emails and send
> them to groups for outage alerting and the integration of sip allowed us to
> use the spark client as a softphone. I just dont like that the same account
> cant be logged in from multiple clients at the same time
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>> I used trillian for a long time to communicate with friends. Hated the way
>> multiple platform part of it worked, but it worked.
>>
>> For private IM we now mostly use WhatsApp, as it has some cost advantages
>> for the people in our circle that travel internationally.
>>
>> For work IM, we now are using Slack. It's goofy in a couple of ways, and
>> when you're in a poor cell zone (we have a lot of those around here), it
>> doesn't work at all/
>>
>>
>> bp
>> 
>>
>> On 8/24/2016 1:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
>> interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
>> the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
>> username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
>> configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login
>> logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
>> histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the same
>> account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
>>
>> trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects
>> to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
>> devices at the same time
>>
>> They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
>> client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing
>> and optional renewal
>>
>> It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
>> days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
>> unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown, but
>> is it still a toy software?
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

xabber seems to work well with openfire

I did like some features of openfire like it could fetch emails and send
them to groups for outage alerting and the integration of sip allowed us to
use the spark client as a softphone. I just dont like that the same account
cant be logged in from multiple clients at the same time

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> I used trillian for a long time to communicate with friends. Hated the way
> multiple platform part of it worked, but it worked.
>
> For private IM we now mostly use WhatsApp, as it has some cost advantages
> for the people in our circle that travel internationally.
>
> For work IM, we now are using Slack. It's goofy in a couple of ways, and
> when you're in a poor cell zone (we have a lot of those around here), it
> doesn't work at all/
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/24/2016 1:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
> interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
> the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
> username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
> configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login
> logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
> histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
> same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
>
> trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects
> to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
> devices at the same time
>
> They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
> client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing
> and optional renewal
>
> It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
> days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
> unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown,
> but is it still a toy software?
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Josh Reynolds]

Eww

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:46 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the cockroaches
> disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? There's evidence
> that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, there's dead ones
> everywhere. Bad example.
>
> On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> It is only empty when observed...
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>>
>> “If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
>> an empty desk a sign?”
>>
>>
>> ― Albert Einstein
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>>
>>> One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router just
>>> up
>>> and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:


 

 You just described me perfectly.

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
  wrote:
>
>
> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to
> work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up
>>> to
>>> 3
>>> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>  wrote:


 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:
>
>
> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium
> Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390



>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[George Skorup]

Is that like when you flip the light switch on and all of the 
cockroaches disappear? But were they ever there in the first place? 
There's evidence that they were, but how can you really know? Oh yeah, 
there's dead ones everywhere. Bad example.


On 8/24/2016 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

It is only empty when observed...

-Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
an empty desk a sign?”


― Albert Einstein

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router 
just up

and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.

On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:




You just described me perfectly.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:


Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to 
work

late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware


On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
wrote:


Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:


Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for 
up to

3
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:


The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:


What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium 
Force

180's?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Bill Prince]

I used trillian for a long time to communicate with friends. Hated the 
way multiple platform part of it worked, but it worked.


For private IM we now mostly use WhatsApp, as it has some cost 
advantages for the people in our circle that travel internationally.


For work IM, we now are using Slack. It's goofy in a couple of ways, and 
when you're in a poor cell zone (we have a lot of those around here), it 
doesn't work at all/



bp


On 8/24/2016 1:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for 
interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different 
username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without 
configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to 
login logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, 
and histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop 
on the same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation 
history.


trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it 
connects to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) 
from multiple devices at the same time


They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid 
client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual 
licensing and optional renewal


It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient 
days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my 
unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have 
grown, but is it still a toy software?


--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Josh Reynolds]

+2 for slack, although Ryver looks pretty good too
(http://www.ryver.com/) but I haven't used it.

Slack has a TON of integrations too. Once of the things we did was
have a #socialMedia channel, and all of our mentions from twitter,
facebook, etc ended up reposting into the channel window. This let us
stay on top of questions and complaints

They have a pretty slick API.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Josh Baird  wrote:
> +1 for Slack.
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Christopher Tyler
>  wrote:
>>
>> We are using slack.com now. Works pretty well.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher Tyler
>> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
>> Total Highspeed Internet Services
>> 417.851.1107
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:23:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?
>>
>> openfire is jabber/xmpp, just easy for a guy who doesnt give a shit about
>> doing any work on an IM server besides installing it from a script and
>> occasionally pushing an update.
>>
>> A non battery drain on mobile is a big deal, and dumb user file transfer
>> has been a godsend
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>>
>> > Everybody has a company Android on our Apps domain, so we just use
>> > Hangouts.
>> >
>> > On 8/24/2016 3:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>> >
>> > We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
>> > interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
>> > the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
>> > username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
>> > configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to
>> > login
>> > logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
>> > histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
>> > same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
>> >
>> > trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it
>> > connects
>> > to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
>> > devices at the same time
>> >
>> > They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
>> > client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual
>> > licensing
>> > and optional renewal
>> >
>> > It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
>> > days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
>> > unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown,
>> > but is it still a toy software?
>> >
>> > --
>> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as
>> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Airview Camera

[Josh Reynolds]

You can change that. I plugged in a usb stick and keyboard and
installed Debian on mine, then layered the UBNT NVR package on top.
This was years ago though.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Lewis Bergman  wrote:
> I have to say that the most disappointing thing about my ubnt NVR is that
> the HDMI port is pretty useless. I was hoping it would just spit out video
> from the cameras but all it does is give the IP address =(  Big bummer!
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>>
>> We have a camera that has been up for several years that started doing
>> this..
>> we did have several storms last few days.
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Chuck McCown]

It is only empty when observed...

-Original Message- 
From: Josh Reynolds

Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
an empty desk a sign?”


― Albert Einstein

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router just up
and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.

On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:




You just described me perfectly.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:


Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work
late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware


On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
wrote:


Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:


Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up 
to

3
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:


The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:


What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium 
Force

180's?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Josh Reynolds]

“If a cluttered desk is a sign of a cluttered mind, of what, then, is
an empty desk a sign?”


― Albert Einstein

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:12 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
> One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router just up
> and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.
>
> On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> You just described me perfectly.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work
>>> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>>> wrote:

 Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
 wrote:
>
> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to
> 3
> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>  wrote:
>>
>> The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
>>> 180's?
>>> Thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Josh Baird]

+1 for Slack.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Christopher Tyler  wrote:

> We are using slack.com now. Works pretty well.
>
> --
> Christopher Tyler
> MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
> Total Highspeed Internet Services
> 417.851.1107
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:23:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?
>
> openfire is jabber/xmpp, just easy for a guy who doesnt give a shit about
> doing any work on an IM server besides installing it from a script and
> occasionally pushing an update.
>
> A non battery drain on mobile is a big deal, and dumb user file transfer
> has been a godsend
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM, George Skorup  wrote:
>
> > Everybody has a company Android on our Apps domain, so we just use
> > Hangouts.
> >
> > On 8/24/2016 3:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> >
> > We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
> > interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
> > the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
> > username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
> > configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to
> login
> > logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
> > histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
> > same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
> >
> > trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it
> connects
> > to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
> > devices at the same time
> >
> > They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
> > client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual
> licensing
> > and optional renewal
> >
> > It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
> > days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
> > unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown,
> > but is it still a toy software?
> >
> > --
> > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Christopher Tyler]

We are using slack.com now. Works pretty well.

-- 
Christopher Tyler 
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE 
Total Highspeed Internet Services 
417.851.1107

- Original Message -
From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 3:23:58 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

openfire is jabber/xmpp, just easy for a guy who doesnt give a shit about
doing any work on an IM server besides installing it from a script and
occasionally pushing an update.

A non battery drain on mobile is a big deal, and dumb user file transfer
has been a godsend

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Everybody has a company Android on our Apps domain, so we just use
> Hangouts.
>
> On 8/24/2016 3:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
> interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
> the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
> username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
> configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login
> logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
> histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
> same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
>
> trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects
> to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
> devices at the same time
>
> They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
> client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing
> and optional renewal
>
> It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
> days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
> unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown,
> but is it still a toy software?
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

openfire is jabber/xmpp, just easy for a guy who doesnt give a shit about
doing any work on an IM server besides installing it from a script and
occasionally pushing an update.

A non battery drain on mobile is a big deal, and dumb user file transfer
has been a godsend

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:18 PM, George Skorup  wrote:

> Everybody has a company Android on our Apps domain, so we just use
> Hangouts.
>
> On 8/24/2016 3:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
> interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
> the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
> username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
> configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login
> logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
> histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
> same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
>
> trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects
> to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
> devices at the same time
>
> They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
> client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing
> and optional renewal
>
> It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
> days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
> unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown,
> but is it still a toy software?
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Rick Harnish]

By the way, I have some 3.65 license holders willing to sell their licenses. If you don't have one, but want to get started in LTE, contact me off list. I have hooked up 8 clients with licenses in the last two weeks. Respectively,Rick HarnishDirector of WISP MarketsDirect: 972.922.1443Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc.Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DroidOn Aug 24, 2016 3:08 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:Yep, any one entity can only own up to four PALs, but two companies could buy them all... however, since these things are per census tract, I think the chances of them having any interest in most rural areas are very, very low. And even if they do buy them all up, there's still 70mhz of GAA.On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:I don't believe they can purchase all of the GAA, well, not one company anyway.I think you're also over-estimating the geographic reach that they'll be purchasing licenses in.-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISPFrom: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.comSent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:38:23 PMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghzThey could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though.  The 3.65 band is pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is.On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
  

  
  
70 mhz is reserved for GAA


On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie
  wrote:


  Why not?
  
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe
  John 
  wrote:
  

  They can't buy them all.
  
  
 
  On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
  
  
Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area. 
  Probably none of us could outbid those guys.
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS
  LTE in 3.5 ghz
 

  
Good
  thing or bad thing?
  
  

-
Mike
  Hammett
Intelligent Computing
  Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

  
  

  
  
 
  From:
"Gino Villarini" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016
12:23:38 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align
behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/

  
  

  

  
  

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[George Skorup]

Everybody has a company Android on our Apps domain, so we just use Hangouts.

On 8/24/2016 3:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for 
interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different 
username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without 
configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to 
login logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, 
and histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop 
on the same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation 
history.


trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it 
connects to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) 
from multiple devices at the same time


They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid 
client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual 
licensing and optional renewal


It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient 
days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my 
unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have 
grown, but is it still a toy software?


--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[Eric Kuhnke]

Why not run ircd-hybrid on your own non-publicly accessible server and use
actual IRC clients?  If this is for company/internal use.

or run a jabber/XMPP daemon and use any of your choice of CLI and GUI XMPP
clients.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
> interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
> the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
> username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
> configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login
> logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
> histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
> same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.
>
> trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects
> to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
> devices at the same time
>
> They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
> client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing
> and optional renewal
>
> It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient
> days it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my
> unsuspecting victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown,
> but is it still a toy software?
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

[AFMUG] anyone using trillian IM?

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

We run an openfire server and have always used the spak im client for
interoffice communication between TS, CS and and administration
the problem is we never knew who was where and it required a different
username on each device, workstation, mobile, laptop, etc without
configuring a boot on the openfire server, just a pita to remember to login
logout everytime you changed locations if you wanted uniformity, and
histories only logged on the server, so if i popped on my laptop on the
same account as my workstation it wouldnt have the workstation history.

trillian solves this as you connect to the trillian server and it connects
to your inhouse im server (or yahoo aol or facebook, etc) from multiple
devices at the same time

They have a free client with their server with ads or whatever, a paid
client with some features, and an in house server with perpetual licensing
and optional renewal

It seems to meet the need, however, im my previous interweb miscreient days
it was trillian and ICQ i used to deliver sub7 packages to my unsuspecting
victims, ie, it was a toy software. It seems to have grown, but is it still
a toy software?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Airview Camera

[Lewis Bergman]

I have to say that the most disappointing thing about my ubnt NVR is that
the HDMI port is pretty useless. I was hoping it would just spit out video
from the cameras but all it does is give the IP address =(  Big bummer!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:58 PM Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> We have a camera that has been up for several years that started doing
> this..
> we did have several storms last few days.
>
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[George Skorup]

One time I thoroughly cleaned my desk and 5 minutes later a router just 
up and failed. So I don't clean my desk anymore.


On 8/24/2016 2:17 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:



You just described me perfectly.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:

Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work
late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware


On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
wrote:

Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
wrote:

Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to 3
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 wrote:

The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
 wrote:

What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
180's?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Mathew Howard]

Yep, any one entity can only own up to four PALs, but two companies could
buy them all... however, since these things are per census tract, I think
the chances of them having any interest in most rural areas are very, very
low. And even if they do buy them all up, there's still 70mhz of GAA.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I don't believe they can purchase all of the GAA, well, not one company
> anyway.
>
> I think you're also over-estimating the geographic reach that they'll be
> purchasing licenses in.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Jason McKemie" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:38:23 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>
> They could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though.  The 3.65
> band is pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is.
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
>
>> 70 mhz is reserved for GAA
>>
>> On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> They can't buy them all.
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>
>>> Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area.  Probably none of us could outbid
>>> those guys.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Mike Hammett" 
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>>>
>>>
>>> Good thing or bad thing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Gino Villarini" 
>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>>>
>>> http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-
>>> and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Mike Hammett]

Sorry, I said GAA, I meant PAL. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jason McKemie"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:45:08 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 

Maybe, I'm having a pessimistic kind of week. 

On Wednesday, August 24, 2016, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I don't believe they can purchase all of the GAA, well, not one company anyway. 

I think you're also over-estimating the geographic reach that they'll be 
purchasing licenses in. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:38:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 


They could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though. The 3.65 band is 
pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is. 


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John < keefe...@ethoplex.com > wrote: 




70 mhz is reserved for GAA 


On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: 



Why not? 


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John < keefe...@ethoplex.com > wrote: 






They can't buy them all. 




On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 



Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area. Probably none of us could outbid those 
guys. 


-- Original Message -- 
From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 




Good thing or bad thing? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Gino Villarini" < ginovi...@gmail.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 


http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
 

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Rick Harnish]

There are approximately 500,000 PAL licenses, (7) 10 MHz per license per census tract. No company can buy more than four licenses per census tract. There is also an additional 80 MHz of GAA spectrum, which will include 3.65-3.7.  I would guess metro areas will go fairly high but rural areas not so much. Since the census tracts are so small, small WISPs may see more value in their coverage area than the big guys.In my opinion, this is the best opportunity for WISPs to gain access to affordable licensed spectrum ever. Also, there is opportunistic use of licensed PAL spectrum, if it is not being used as governed by the SAS database. Read the rules, keep up on the upcoming auction proceedings, identify the census tracts in your area and get prepared to bid!Respectively,Rick HarnishDirector of WISP MarketsDirect: 972.922.1443Baicells Technologies N.A. Inc.Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DroidOn Aug 24, 2016 2:45 PM, Jason McKemie  wrote:Maybe, I'm having a pessimistic kind of week.On Wednesday, August 24, 2016, Mike Hammett  wrote:I don't believe they can purchase all of the GAA, well, not one company anyway.I think you're also over-estimating the geographic reach that they'll be purchasing licenses in.-Mike HammettIntelligent Computing SolutionsMidwest Internet ExchangeThe Brothers WISPFrom: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.comSent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:38:23 PMSubject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghzThey could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though.  The 3.65 band is pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is.On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John  wrote:
  

  
  
70 mhz is reserved for GAA


On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie
  wrote:


  Why not?
  
On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe
  John 
  wrote:
  

  They can't buy them all.
  
  
 
  On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
  
  
Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area. 
  Probably none of us could outbid those guys.
 
 
-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS
  LTE in 3.5 ghz
 

  
Good
  thing or bad thing?
  
  

-
Mike
  Hammett
Intelligent Computing
  Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP

  
  

  
  
 
  From:
"Gino Villarini" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016
12:23:38 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align
behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/

  
  

  

  
  

  

  


  


  

Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

They are both ways to clean the pipe but they seem pretty different at first 
glance.


Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On Aug 24, 2016, at 3:14 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
> 
> Is this similar to Team Cymru's UTRS?
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>   
>  
>  
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>   
>  
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> From: "Joshaven Mailing Lists"  >
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:40:45 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service
> 
> For years I've provided a FREE blacklist service for MikroTik users. I have 
> recently upgraded my server environment for higher reliability and speed. If 
> you are interested in a dynamic IP blacklist for your routers are are not 
> already using my list then checkout my writeup:
> http://joshaven.com/resources/tricks/mikrotik-automatically-updated-address-list/
>  
> If
>  you are already use my list than don't worry, your service just got faster 
> and you don't need to do anything... unless you want to include the newly 
> added list from malc0de.
> 
> 
> 
> Below is a shameless advertisement for a company that I’m pretty excited 
> about.  I’d highly recommend checking out CloudFlare if you have a busy site 
> that you want to make quicker….
> 
> I am using CloudFlare as a web caching CDN and it is working very well!  The 
> performance has been spectacular and the implementation has been painless.  
> Performance is kinda the point of a CDN however when it doesn’t cost me a 
> dime and works so well I am just amazed.  So far this week it has saved me 
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> 
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> Roam  124ms to 12.5ms
> Tokyo 158ms to 88ms
> Singapore 240ms to 180ms
> 
> 
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> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Jason McKemie]

Maybe, I'm having a pessimistic kind of week.

On Wednesday, August 24, 2016, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> I don't believe they can purchase all of the GAA, well, not one company
> anyway.
>
> I think you're also over-estimating the geographic reach that they'll be
> purchasing licenses in.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Jason McKemie"  >
> *To: *af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:38:23 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>
> They could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though.  The 3.65
> band is pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is.
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John  > wrote:
>
>> 70 mhz is reserved for GAA
>>
>> On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John > > wrote:
>>
>>> They can't buy them all.
>>>
>>> On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>
>>> Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area.  Probably none of us could outbid
>>> those guys.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Mike Hammett" >> >
>>> To: af@afmug.com 
>>> Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>>>
>>>
>>> Good thing or bad thing?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Gino Villarini" >> >
>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" >> >
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>>>
>>> http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-
>>> and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Mike Hammett]

I don't believe they can purchase all of the GAA, well, not one company anyway. 

I think you're also over-estimating the geographic reach that they'll be 
purchasing licenses in. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jason McKemie"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 2:38:23 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 


They could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though. The 3.65 band is 
pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is. 


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John < keefe...@ethoplex.com > wrote: 




70 mhz is reserved for GAA 


On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: 



Why not? 


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John < keefe...@ethoplex.com > wrote: 






They can't buy them all. 




On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 



Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area. Probably none of us could outbid those 
guys. 


-- Original Message -- 
From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 




Good thing or bad thing? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Gino Villarini" < ginovi...@gmail.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 


http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
 

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Jason McKemie]

They could purchase all of the exclusive-use spectrum though.  The 3.65
band is pretty much worthless around here anymore as-is.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

> 70 mhz is reserved for GAA
>
> On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>
> Why not?
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John 
> wrote:
>
>> They can't buy them all.
>>
>> On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>
>> Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area.  Probably none of us could outbid
>> those guys.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Mike Hammett" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>>
>>
>> Good thing or bad thing?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Gino Villarini" 
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>>
>> http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-
>> other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[can...@believewireless.net]

They were! (Woke up at 4:45 AM)

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> When you *say* you were up til 5 am...
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>
>
> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to
>>> 3 mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>


>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Josh Reynolds]

You just described me perfectly.

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
 wrote:
> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to 3
>>> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>  wrote:

 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza
  wrote:
>
> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390


>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Mathew Howard]

I really need to try digging up my desk one of these days...

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:30 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to
>>> 3 mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>


>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Keefe John]

70 mhz is reserved for GAA


On 8/24/2016 12:48 PM, Jason McKemie wrote:

Why not?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John > wrote:


They can't buy them all.


On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:

Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area. Probably none of us could
outbid those guys.
-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

Good thing or bad thing?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


Midwest Internet Exchange 


The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Gino Villarini" >
*To: *"Animal Farm" >
*Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz


http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Jaime Solorza]

configured and will be installed in a few.

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

> When you *say* you were up til 5 am...
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:30 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP
>
>
> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to
>>> 3 mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>


>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Chuck McCown]

When you say you were up til 5 am...

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:30 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work late 
when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware


On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

  Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P


  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to 3 
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them! 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.



  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

  On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza 
 wrote:

What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force 
180's? 
Thanks

Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] M2 WiFi Mode to ePMP AP WiFi Mode 10 MHz

[Christopher Gray]

I decided to click the little (?) button.

To operate in WiFi mode, "...The AP must have WDS enabled."

Bingo, everything works fine.


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Christopher Gray <
cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote:

> I'm having a hard time getting this to work. I'm working a very simple
> setup:
>
> AP: UBNT NSM2, airMax off, WDS off, bridge mode, WPA2, v5.6.3
>
> SM: ePMP 2.4 GHz integrated, WiFi SM mode, bridge mode, WPA2, v3.0
>
> I can't even get the ePMP to connect to a test WiFi network, so I expect
> I'm missing something very basic on the ePMP. ePMP will see the network,
> but will not register. Any suggestions?
>
> -Chris
>
>
> --
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Jerry Head 
> wrote:
>
>> Yep.
>>
>>
>> On 8/23/2016 8:55 PM, Christopher Gray wrote:
>>
>>> I'm about to swap out some UBNT M2 hardware for ePMP hardware. I plan to
>>> be changing the AP to ePMP first, then all the SMs.
>>>
>>> Will 2.4 GHz M2 hardware connect in WiFi mode to an ePMP AP in a 10 MHz
>>> wide channel?
>>>
>>> Thank you - Chris
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Mike Hammett]

because they can't, per regulation. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Jason McKemie"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:48:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 


Why not? 


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John < keefe...@ethoplex.com > wrote: 




They can't buy them all. 




On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: 



Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area. Probably none of us could outbid those 
guys. 


-- Original Message -- 
From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 




Good thing or bad thing? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Gino Villarini" < ginovi...@gmail.com > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 


http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
 

Re: [AFMUG] M2 WiFi Mode to ePMP AP WiFi Mode 10 MHz

[Christopher Gray]

I'm having a hard time getting this to work. I'm working a very simple
setup:

AP: UBNT NSM2, airMax off, WDS off, bridge mode, WPA2, v5.6.3

SM: ePMP 2.4 GHz integrated, WiFi SM mode, bridge mode, WPA2, v3.0

I can't even get the ePMP to connect to a test WiFi network, so I expect
I'm missing something very basic on the ePMP. ePMP will see the network,
but will not register. Any suggestions?

-Chris


--

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Jerry Head 
wrote:

> Yep.
>
>
> On 8/23/2016 8:55 PM, Christopher Gray wrote:
>
>> I'm about to swap out some UBNT M2 hardware for ePMP hardware. I plan to
>> be changing the AP to ePMP first, then all the SMs.
>>
>> Will 2.4 GHz M2 hardware connect in WiFi mode to an ePMP AP in a 10 MHz
>> wide channel?
>>
>> Thank you - Chris
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Josh Luthman]

Only another 3 db?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Aug 24, 2016 1:42 PM, "Gino Villarini"  wrote:

> these are not the original integrated units, the new ones
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to
>>> 3 mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>


>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Jason McKemie]

Why not?

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

> They can't buy them all.
>
> On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area.  Probably none of us could outbid
> those guys.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>
>
> Good thing or bad thing?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Gino Villarini" 
> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>
> http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-
> and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

I agree with Gino.  WE have used them in a 1-2 mile PTP config.  Mainly to link 
a small site up to a larger site.

The other thing that really impressed us was short 100ft shots to remote 
buildings with trees getting -60s.

 

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Internet Communications Inc. 
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Franklin, IN 46131 
  
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317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:43 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

 

these are not the original integrated units, the new ones 

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:

Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini  > wrote:

Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to 3 mile 
shots. Working great! Installers love them! 

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:

The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza  > wrote:

What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force 180's?

Thanks


Jaime Solorza

Wireless Systems Architect

915-861-1390  

 

 

 

 

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Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Gino Villarini]

these are not the original integrated units, the new ones

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to 3
>> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
 180's?
 Thanks
 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Jaime Solorza]

They have impressed me on how well they work even with noise. Going to try
a 3.2 mile link

On Aug 24, 2016 11:30 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
wrote:

> Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work
> late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to
>>> 3 mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
 The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza <
 losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>


>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Gino Villarini]

I believe its a good thing as it drives more movement towards the ecosystem.

The only one in the group with posible interest of bidding would be google,
Nokia is in because they are a infrastructure manufacturer, Qualcomm for
chipsets and ruckus for enterprise  coverage

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

> They can't buy them all.
>
> On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area.  Probably none of us could outbid
> those guys.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Mike Hammett" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>
>
> Good thing or bad thing?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Gino Villarini" 
> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz
>
> http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-
> and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Cool, Will hit you off list on it as soon as I am able to clear up some time to 
spend on it ! 

Thanks. 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Joshaven Mailing Lists" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 1:29:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

> I’m all for it and would be quite happy to be a part of the effort. Hit me off
> list if you want to organize this together or chat about it further.

> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com

>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > 
>> wrote:
>> BTW, I have been toying with the idea of using part of your code and concept 
>> to
>> setup a method of doing auto update of BGP Filters from Routing Registry
>> Database.

>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

>>> From: "Joshaven Mailing Lists" < lis...@joshaven.com >
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:27:19 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

>>> It’s mostly a good neighbor thing but I also benefit from it indirectly.

>>> I benefit in that the more my site is used the more my online reputation is
>>> improved and that indirectly drives consulting business my way. I expect 
>>> that
>>> it is a true win/win.

>>> So your instinct to expect a selfish motive (sorry if that is putting words 
>>> in
>>> your mouth) is partially correct. I don’t get anything out of the list other
>>> then search engine attention which does in a way put food on the table.

>>> Sincerely,
>>> Joshaven Potter
>>> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
>>> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
>>> supp...@joshaven.com

 On Aug 24, 2016, at 11:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 > wrote:
 Is this a good neighbor thing? Not questioning, just curious what reason 
 you
 have in offering this. I have no issue with a "because I can" response

 On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists < 
 lis...@joshaven.com >
 wrote:

> For years I've provided a FREE blacklist service for MikroTik users. I 
> have
> recently upgraded my server environment for higher reliability and speed. 
> If
> you are interested in a dynamic IP blacklist for your routers are are not
> already using my list then checkout my writeup:

> http://joshaven.com/resources/tricks/mikrotik-automatically-updated-address-list/

> If you are already use my list than don't worry, your service just got 
> faster
> and you don't need to do anything... unless you want to include the newly 
> added
> list from malc0de.

> Below is a shameless advertisement for a company that I’m pretty excited 
> about.
> I’d highly recommend checking out CloudFlare if you have a busy site that 
> you
> want to make quicker….

> I am using CloudFlare as a web caching CDN and it is working very well! 
> The
> performance has been spectacular and the implementation has been painless.
> Performance is kinda the point of a CDN however when it doesn’t cost me a 
> dime
> and works so well I am just amazed. So far this week it has saved me 
> 54.39GB of
> my sites total 124.74GB of bandwidth. Next week it will save me even more 
> as I
> have been tweaking things to get the most out of CloudFlare…

> Latency Reduction:
> San Francisco 69ms to 2ms
> Dallas 38ms to 0.5ms
> Atlanta 46ms to 0.4ms
> Mexico City 68ms to 26ms
> Argentina 172ms to 120ms
> Frankfort DE 104ms to 0.5ms
> Roam 124ms to 12.5ms
> Tokyo 158ms to 88ms
> Singapore 240ms to 180ms

> Below are some screenshots of the analytics that show how CloudFlare is 
> kicking
> in and really handling a lot of traffic that my server was having to 
> handle
> before...

> 

> 

> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team 
 as part
 of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Keefe John]

They can't buy them all.


On 8/24/2016 12:26 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area.  Probably none of us could 
outbid those guys.

-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" >
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

Good thing or bad thing?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 





*From: *"Gino Villarini" >

*To: *"Animal Farm" >
*Sent: *Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Fuck the network admins, we get to have the messy desks and come to work
late when we were up til 5am rolling out firmware

On Aug 24, 2016 12:27 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
wrote:

> Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini 
> wrote:
>
>> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to 3
>> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
 180's?
 Thanks
 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

I’m all for it and would be quite happy to be a part of the effort.  Hit me off 
list if you want to organize this together or chat about it further.


Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On Aug 24, 2016, at 1:26 PM, Faisal Imtiaz  wrote:
> 
> BTW, I have been toying with the idea of using part of your code and concept 
> to setup a method of doing  auto update of BGP Filters from Routing Registry 
> Database.
> 
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> 
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> 
> From: "Joshaven Mailing Lists" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:27:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service
> It’s mostly a good neighbor thing but I also benefit from it indirectly.
> 
> I benefit in that the more my site is used the more my online reputation is 
> improved and that indirectly drives consulting business my way.  I expect 
> that it is a true win/win.
> 
> So your instinct to expect a selfish motive (sorry if that is putting words 
> in your mouth) is partially correct.  I don’t get anything out of the list 
> other then search engine attention which does in a way put food on the table.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co 
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com 
> On Aug 24, 2016, at 11:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
> > wrote:
> Is this a good neighbor thing? Not questioning, just curious what reason you 
> have in offering this. I have no issue with a "because I can" response
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists  > wrote:
> For years I've provided a FREE blacklist service for MikroTik users. I have 
> recently upgraded my server environment for higher reliability and speed. If 
> you are interested in a dynamic IP blacklist for your routers are are not 
> already using my list then checkout my writeup:
> http://joshaven.com/resources/tricks/mikrotik-automatically-updated-address-list/
>  
> If
>  you are already use my list than don't worry, your service just got faster 
> and you don't need to do anything... unless you want to include the newly 
> added list from malc0de.
> 
> 
> 
> Below is a shameless advertisement for a company that I’m pretty excited 
> about.  I’d highly recommend checking out CloudFlare if you have a busy site 
> that you want to make quicker….
> 
> I am using CloudFlare as a web caching CDN and it is working very well!  The 
> performance has been spectacular and the implementation has been painless.  
> Performance is kinda the point of a CDN however when it doesn’t cost me a 
> dime and works so well I am just amazed.  So far this week it has saved me 
> 54.39GB of my sites total 124.74GB of bandwidth.  Next week it will save me 
> even more as I have been tweaking things to get the most out of CloudFlare… 
> 
> Latency Reduction:
> San Francisco   69ms to 2ms
> Dallas   38ms to 0.5ms
> Atlanta   46ms to 0.4ms
> Mexico City   68ms to 26ms
> Argentina  172ms to 120ms
> Frankfort DE  104ms to 0.5ms
> Roam124ms to 12.5ms
> Tokyo  158ms to 88ms
> Singapore  240ms to 180ms
> 
> 
> Below are some screenshots of the analytics that show how CloudFlare is 
> kicking in and really handling a lot of traffic that my server was having to 
> handle before...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co 
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 
> supp...@joshaven.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> 
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Josh Luthman]

Well of course the installers do.  What about the network admin? =P


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

> Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to 3
> mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza > > wrote:
>>
>>> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
>>> 180's?
>>> Thanks
>>> Jaime Solorza
>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>> 915-861-1390
>>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

No, I think it's cool. I was just curious how you justify the associated
headaches when a guy like me goes to implement it and somehow manages to
not follow the very clear instructions and ends up bugging you. Did you
build this up purpose driven from your own need to have it and it just was
simple enough for you to make it public?

On Aug 24, 2016 12:19 PM, "Joshaven Mailing Lists" 
wrote:

CloudFlare (by default) doesn’t cache html or php pages as they can contain
dynamic content and in my case they do.  So my lists are being served out
of cache along with images, js & css and other static content but my html
files are still being served live from my server. I had to create a few
custom cache rules to cover the .rsc file extension but that was easy.
CloudFlare has a nifty feature called Railgun which makes the dynamic
content work properly with the CDN which has an associated cost… I
don’t need it at this point, however, so I haven’t become a paid customer
yet.


Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
wrote:

Cool.

So on your site, the cloudflare is set up to cache your website data/pages
in other CDN locations, so customers of your website get quicker access to
content through a local (to them) CDN.

Is that correct?

*From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On Behalf
Of *Joshaven Mailing Lists
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:41 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service


For years I've provided a FREE blacklist service for MikroTik users. I have
recently upgraded my server environment for higher reliability and speed.
If you are interested in a dynamic IP blacklist for your routers are are
not already using my list then checkout my writeup:

http://joshaven.com/resources/tricks/mikrotik-automatically-
updated-address-list/

If you are already use my list than don't worry, your service just got
faster and you don't need to do anything... unless you want to include the
newly added list from malc0de.



Below is a shameless advertisement for a company that I’m pretty excited
about.  I’d highly recommend checking out CloudFlare if you have a busy
site that you want to make quicker….

I am using CloudFlare as a web caching CDN and it is working very well!
The performance has been spectacular and the implementation has been
painless.  Performance is kinda the point of a CDN however when it doesn’t
cost me a dime and works so well I am just amazed.  So far this week it has
saved me 54.39GB of my sites total 124.74GB of bandwidth.  Next week it
will save me even more as I have been tweaking things to get the most out
of CloudFlare…

Latency Reduction:
San Francisco69ms to 2ms
Dallas38ms to 0.5ms
Atlanta  46ms to 0.4ms
Mexico City  68ms to 26ms
Argentina172ms to 120ms
Frankfort DE   104ms to 0.5ms
Roam   124ms to 12.5ms
Tokyo  158ms to 88ms
Singapore240ms to 180ms


Below are some screenshots of the analytics that show how CloudFlare is
kicking in and really handling a lot of traffic that my server was having
to handle before...






Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com

Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

[Faisal Imtiaz]

BTW, I have been toying with the idea of using part of your code and concept to 
setup a method of doing auto update of BGP Filters from Routing Registry 
Database. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Joshaven Mailing Lists" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:27:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

> It’s mostly a good neighbor thing but I also benefit from it indirectly.

> I benefit in that the more my site is used the more my online reputation is
> improved and that indirectly drives consulting business my way. I expect that
> it is a true win/win.

> So your instinct to expect a selfish motive (sorry if that is putting words in
> your mouth) is partially correct. I don’t get anything out of the list other
> then search engine attention which does in a way put food on the table.

> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com

>> On Aug 24, 2016, at 11:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < 
>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>> Is this a good neighbor thing? Not questioning, just curious what reason you
>> have in offering this. I have no issue with a "because I can" response

>> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists < 
>> lis...@joshaven.com >
>> wrote:

>>> For years I've provided a FREE blacklist service for MikroTik users. I have
>>> recently upgraded my server environment for higher reliability and speed. If
>>> you are interested in a dynamic IP blacklist for your routers are are not
>>> already using my list then checkout my writeup:

>>> http://joshaven.com/resources/tricks/mikrotik-automatically-updated-address-list/

>>> If you are already use my list than don't worry, your service just got 
>>> faster
>>> and you don't need to do anything... unless you want to include the newly 
>>> added
>>> list from malc0de.

>>> Below is a shameless advertisement for a company that I’m pretty excited 
>>> about.
>>> I’d highly recommend checking out CloudFlare if you have a busy site that 
>>> you
>>> want to make quicker….

>>> I am using CloudFlare as a web caching CDN and it is working very well! The
>>> performance has been spectacular and the implementation has been painless.
>>> Performance is kinda the point of a CDN however when it doesn’t cost me a 
>>> dime
>>> and works so well I am just amazed. So far this week it has saved me 
>>> 54.39GB of
>>> my sites total 124.74GB of bandwidth. Next week it will save me even more 
>>> as I
>>> have been tweaking things to get the most out of CloudFlare…

>>> Latency Reduction:
>>> San Francisco 69ms to 2ms
>>> Dallas 38ms to 0.5ms
>>> Atlanta 46ms to 0.4ms
>>> Mexico City 68ms to 26ms
>>> Argentina 172ms to 120ms
>>> Frankfort DE 104ms to 0.5ms
>>> Roam 124ms to 12.5ms
>>> Tokyo 158ms to 88ms
>>> Singapore 240ms to 180ms

>>> Below are some screenshots of the analytics that show how CloudFlare is 
>>> kicking
>>> in and really handling a lot of traffic that my server was having to handle
>>> before...

>>> 

>>> 

>>> Sincerely,
>>> Joshaven Potter
>>> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
>>> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
>>> supp...@joshaven.com

>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
>> part
>> of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Adam Moffett]

Bad if they bid on PAL's in your area.  Probably none of us could outbid 
those guys.



-- Original Message --
From: "Mike Hammett" 
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/24/2016 1:24:33 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz


Good thing or bad thing?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP





From: "Gino Villarini" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/

Re: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Mike Hammett]

Good thing or bad thing? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




- Original Message -

From: "Gino Villarini"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:23:38 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz 


http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/
 

[AFMUG] Big Guns align behind CBRS LTE in 3.5 ghz

[Gino Villarini]

http://telecoms.com/475034/google-intel-nokia-qualcomm-and-other-form-3-5-ghz-alliance/

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Gino Villarini]

Actually, we have been some what amazed at them.. we use them for up to 3
mile shots. Working great! Installers love them!

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:18 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza 
> wrote:
>
>> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
>> 180's?
>> Thanks
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Comtrend

[Matt Hopkins]

Hey all,

Quick question, anyone have any experience with Comtrend endpoints? 
Specifically their higher end VDSL, and residential gateways. 
Opinions,results?



--


Matt Hopkins
Network Administrator
supp...@onlinenw.com
onlinenw.com 

Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

CloudFlare (by default) doesn’t cache html or php pages as they can contain 
dynamic content and in my case they do.  So my lists are being served out of 
cache along with images, js & css and other static content but my html files 
are still being served live from my server. I had to create a few custom cache 
rules to cover the .rsc file extension but that was easy.  CloudFlare has a 
nifty feature called Railgun which makes the dynamic content work properly with 
the CDN which has an associated cost… I don’t need it at this point, however, 
so I haven’t become a paid customer yet. 


Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On Aug 24, 2016, at 12:46 PM, Sterling Jacobson  wrote:
> 
> Cool.
>  
> So on your site, the cloudflare is set up to cache your website data/pages in 
> other CDN locations, so customers of your website get quicker access to 
> content through a local (to them) CDN.  
>  
> Is that correct?
>  
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Joshaven Mailing Lists
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 8:41 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service
>  
> For years I've provided a FREE blacklist service for MikroTik users. I have 
> recently upgraded my server environment for higher reliability and speed. If 
> you are interested in a dynamic IP blacklist for your routers are are not 
> already using my list then checkout my writeup:
> http://joshaven.com/resources/tricks/mikrotik-automatically-updated-address-list/
>  
> 
> If you are already use my list than don't worry, your service just got faster 
> and you don't need to do anything... unless you want to include the newly 
> added list from malc0de.
>  
>  
>  
> Below is a shameless advertisement for a company that I’m pretty excited 
> about.  I’d highly recommend checking out CloudFlare if you have a busy site 
> that you want to make quicker….
>  
> I am using CloudFlare as a web caching CDN and it is working very well!  The 
> performance has been spectacular and the implementation has been painless.  
> Performance is kinda the point of a CDN however when it doesn’t cost me a 
> dime and works so well I am just amazed.  So far this week it has saved me 
> 54.39GB of my sites total 124.74GB of bandwidth.  Next week it will save me 
> even more as I have been tweaking things to get the most out of CloudFlare… 
>  
> Latency Reduction:
> San Francisco69ms to 2ms
> Dallas38ms to 0.5ms
> Atlanta  46ms to 0.4ms
> Mexico City  68ms to 26ms
> Argentina172ms to 120ms
> Frankfort DE   104ms to 0.5ms
> Roam   124ms to 12.5ms
> Tokyo  158ms to 88ms
> Singapore240ms to 180ms
>  
>  
> Below are some screenshots of the analytics that show how CloudFlare is 
> kicking in and really handling a lot of traffic that my server was having to 
> handle before...
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co 
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
> supp...@joshaven.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Josh Luthman]

The integrated?  Ehh...please don't.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 1:10 PM, Jaime Solorza 
wrote:

> What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force
> 180's?
> Thanks
> Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>

[AFMUG] Force 180 PTP

[Jaime Solorza]

What is the longest link anyone has done with a piar of Cambium Force 180's?
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] FREE Mikrotik Blacklist Service

[Joshaven Mailing Lists]

It’s mostly a good neighbor thing but I also benefit from it indirectly.

I benefit in that the more my site is used the more my online reputation is 
improved and that indirectly drives consulting business my way.  I expect that 
it is a true win/win.

So your instinct to expect a selfish motive (sorry if that is putting words in 
your mouth) is partially correct.  I don’t get anything out of the list other 
then search engine attention which does in a way put food on the table.

Sincerely,
Joshaven Potter
Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co
Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370
supp...@joshaven.com



> On Aug 24, 2016, at 11:05 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is this a good neighbor thing? Not questioning, just curious what reason you 
> have in offering this. I have no issue with a "because I can" response
> 
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Joshaven Mailing Lists  > wrote:
> For years I've provided a FREE blacklist service for MikroTik users. I have 
> recently upgraded my server environment for higher reliability and speed. If 
> you are interested in a dynamic IP blacklist for your routers are are not 
> already using my list then checkout my writeup:
> 
> http://joshaven.com/resources/tricks/mikrotik-automatically-updated-address-list/
>  
> If
>  you are already use my list than don't worry, your service just got faster 
> and you don't need to do anything... unless you want to include the newly 
> added list from malc0de.
> 
> 
> 
> Below is a shameless advertisement for a company that I’m pretty excited 
> about.  I’d highly recommend checking out CloudFlare if you have a busy site 
> that you want to make quicker….
> 
> I am using CloudFlare as a web caching CDN and it is working very well!  The 
> performance has been spectacular and the implementation has been painless.  
> Performance is kinda the point of a CDN however when it doesn’t cost me a 
> dime and works so well I am just amazed.  So far this week it has saved me 
> 54.39GB of my sites total 124.74GB of bandwidth.  Next week it will save me 
> even more as I have been tweaking things to get the most out of CloudFlare… 
> 
> Latency Reduction:
> San Francisco   69ms to 2ms
> Dallas  38ms to 0.5ms
> Atlanta 46ms to 0.4ms
> Mexico City 68ms to 26ms
> Argentina 172ms to 120ms
> Frankfort DE  104ms to 0.5ms
> Roam  124ms to 12.5ms
> Tokyo 158ms to 88ms
> Singapore 240ms to 180ms
> 
> 
> Below are some screenshots of the analytics that show how CloudFlare is 
> kicking in and really handling a lot of traffic that my server was having to 
> handle before...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> Joshaven Potter
> Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co 
> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 
> supp...@joshaven.com 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna

[Jaime Solorza]

I think Rory is still asleep...

On Aug 24, 2016 9:28 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

> I used the Wilson log periodic for the outdoor antenna.  The flying saucer
> disk antenna inside.  Works like a champ.
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2016 6:17 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna
>
>
> Wilson and SureCall both have wide band yagi and panels with 700 to
> 2700mhz spread.   Tessco has a good selection of DAS antennas as well.
> Which amp did you get?
>
> On Aug 24, 2016 12:29 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions on long-range, multi-band antennas?  It’s for a Wilson
>> repeater and the cable is 100’ long or more.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net *
>>
>>
>>
>> “Baseball, it is said, is only a game.  True.  And the Grand Canyon is
>> only a hole in Arizona”.  -  George Frederick Will
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna

[Chuck McCown]

I used the Wilson log periodic for the outdoor antenna.  The flying saucer disk 
antenna inside.  Works like a champ.  

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 6:17 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna

Wilson and SureCall both have wide band yagi and panels with 700 to 2700mhz 
spread.   Tessco has a good selection of DAS antennas as well.   Which amp did 
you get? 


On Aug 24, 2016 12:29 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

  Any suggestions on long-range, multi-band antennas?  It’s for a Wilson 
repeater and the cable is 100’ long or more.



  Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO

  4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040

  602-426-0542

  r...@triadwireless.net

  www.triadwireless.net



  “Baseball, it is said, is only a game.  True.  And the Grand Canyon is only a 
hole in Arizona”.  -  George Frederick Will

Re: [AFMUG] M2 WiFi Mode to ePMP AP WiFi Mode 10 MHz

[Jerry Head]

Yep.

On 8/23/2016 8:55 PM, Christopher Gray wrote:
I'm about to swap out some UBNT M2 hardware for ePMP hardware. I plan 
to be changing the AP to ePMP first, then all the SMs.


Will 2.4 GHz M2 hardware connect in WiFi mode to an ePMP AP in a 10 
MHz wide channel?


Thank you - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[Josh Baird]

For infrastructure:

vl[A]-[B][C].[D].net.domain.com

A = vlan-id
B = device type (irtr, artr, cr, etc)
C = device index (0, 1, 2, etc)
D = location id

Example:

vl7-artr1.dan100.net.domain.com

(vlan 7 interface of "artr1" at "dan100")

For customer/dymamic pools, we just do something simple like:

ip-1.2.3.4.cust.domain.com

Josh

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> thats the space im talking about, infrastructure like
> ---.domain.com for traceroutes
> (remote site matches my ip documentation and will help catch a forgotten
> update if we move a backhaul)
> i guess alot of it is how much is enough, not enough, and too much, I
> assume i dont want  in it
>
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Jesse DuPont <
> jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:
>
>> I pretty much stick to these:
>>
>> dyn-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
>> static-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
>> .celerityinernet.com
>>
>> I know it's forward notation, but I prefer to keep them simple.
>> Also valuable in some cases is setting a longer TTL value for your
>> non-dynamic-use PTR records (like 86400 or 43200). It avoids you having to
>> change them later when someone with a static IP gets black listed on a DUL
>> email server list.
>>
>> Also, right or wrong, I use loose geographical naming conventions (based
>> on CLLI naming convention) for PTR records for L3 interfaces so traceroutes
>> are more intuitive. So, one of our towers is called SDPB and it's in
>> Spearfish so I might use "sprf-sdpb-ccr-eth1.celerityinternet.com". If
>> nothing else, as the network grows, it's helpful internally.
>>
>> *Jesse DuPont*
>>
>> Network Architect
>> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
>> Celerity Networks LLC
>>
>> Celerity Broadband LLC
>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>>
>> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
>> On 8/24/16 8:11 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>
>> I know this is alot like asking which mail server is best or which cable
>> to use. Im putting up a DNS server with our rfc1918 space thats in use on
>> it. Ive been reading a ton of conventions people use, some granular, some
>> vague.
>> anybody care to share some examples?
>>
>> --
>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[Simon Westlake]

I agree with Jesse. You want enough data to find things out without 
excessive digging, but you don't need to document the world. 
Place-Device-Interface is plenty for traceroutes, and dyn/static is 
enough for pools.


On 8/24/2016 9:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
thats the space im talking about, infrastructure like 
---.domain.com 
 for traceroutes (remote site matches my ip 
documentation and will help catch a forgotten update if we move a 
backhaul)
i guess alot of it is how much is enough, not enough, and too much, I 
assume i dont want  in it


On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Jesse DuPont 
> 
wrote:


I pretty much stick to these:

dyn-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com

static-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com

.celerityinernet.com 

I know it's forward notation, but I prefer to keep them simple.
Also valuable in some cases is setting a longer TTL value for your
non-dynamic-use PTR records (like 86400 or 43200). It avoids you
having to change them later when someone with a static IP gets
black listed on a DUL email server list.

Also, right or wrong, I use loose geographical naming conventions
(based on CLLI naming convention) for PTR records for L3
interfaces so traceroutes are more intuitive. So, one of our
towers is called SDPB and it's in Spearfish so I might use
"sprf-sdpb-ccr-eth1.celerityinternet.com
". If nothing
else, as the network grows, it's helpful internally.

*_Jesse DuPont_*

Network Architect
email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net

Celerity Networks LLC

Celerity Broadband LLC
Like us! facebook.com /celeritynetworksllc

Like us! facebook.com /celeritybroadband

On 8/24/16 8:11 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

I know this is alot like asking which mail server is best or
which cable to use. Im putting up a DNS server with our rfc1918
space thats in use on it. Ive been reading a ton of conventions
people use, some granular, some vague.
anybody care to share some examples?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see

your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of
the team.





--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


--
Simon Westlake
Skype: Simon_Sonar
Email: simon@sonar.software
Phone: (702) 447-1247
---
Sonar Software Inc
The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
https://sonar.software

Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

thats the space im talking about, infrastructure like
---.domain.com for traceroutes
(remote site matches my ip documentation and will help catch a forgotten
update if we move a backhaul)
i guess alot of it is how much is enough, not enough, and too much, I
assume i dont want  in it

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Jesse DuPont  wrote:

> I pretty much stick to these:
>
> dyn-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
> static-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
> .celerityinernet.com
>
> I know it's forward notation, but I prefer to keep them simple.
> Also valuable in some cases is setting a longer TTL value for your
> non-dynamic-use PTR records (like 86400 or 43200). It avoids you having to
> change them later when someone with a static IP gets black listed on a DUL
> email server list.
>
> Also, right or wrong, I use loose geographical naming conventions (based
> on CLLI naming convention) for PTR records for L3 interfaces so traceroutes
> are more intuitive. So, one of our towers is called SDPB and it's in
> Spearfish so I might use "sprf-sdpb-ccr-eth1.celerityinternet.com". If
> nothing else, as the network grows, it's helpful internally.
>
> *Jesse DuPont*
>
> Network Architect
> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
> Celerity Networks LLC
>
> Celerity Broadband LLC
> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>
> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
> On 8/24/16 8:11 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> I know this is alot like asking which mail server is best or which cable
> to use. Im putting up a DNS server with our rfc1918 space thats in use on
> it. Ive been reading a ton of conventions people use, some granular, some
> vague.
> anybody care to share some examples?
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
I pretty much stick to these:

dyn-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
static-192-168-1-1.celerityinternet.com
.celerityinernet.com

I know it's forward notation, but I prefer to keep them simple.
Also valuable in some cases is setting a longer TTL value for your
non-dynamic-use PTR records (like 86400 or 43200). It avoids you
having to change them later when someone with a static IP gets black
listed on a DUL email server list.

Also, right or wrong, I use loose geographical naming conventions
(based on CLLI naming convention) for PTR records for L3 interfaces
so traceroutes are more intuitive. So, one of our towers is called
SDPB and it's in Spearfish so I might use
"sprf-sdpb-ccr-eth1.celerityinternet.com". If nothing else, as the
network grows, it's helpful internally.


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
Jesse DuPont

  Network
  Architect
  email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
  Celerity Networks LLC
  Celerity
  Broadband LLC
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On 8/24/16 8:11 AM, That One Guy
  /sarcasm wrote:


  I know this is alot like asking which mail server
is best or which cable to use. Im putting up a DNS server with
our rfc1918 space thats in use on it. Ive been reading a ton of
conventions people use, some granular, some vague. 
anybody care to share some examples?
  
  
  -- 
  

  
If you only see yourself
as part of the team but you don't see your team
as part of yourself you have already failed as
part of the team.
  

  

  


  

Re: [AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[can...@believewireless.net]

router.domain.com

On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 10:11 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I know this is alot like asking which mail server is best or which cable
> to use. Im putting up a DNS server with our rfc1918 space thats in use on
> it. Ive been reading a ton of conventions people use, some granular, some
> vague.
> anybody care to share some examples?
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

[AFMUG] infrastructure PTR naming conventions

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

I know this is alot like asking which mail server is best or which cable to
use. Im putting up a DNS server with our rfc1918 space thats in use on it.
Ive been reading a ton of conventions people use, some granular, some
vague.
anybody care to share some examples?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna

[Jaime Solorza]

Wilson and SureCall both have wide band yagi and panels with 700 to 2700mhz
spread.   Tessco has a good selection of DAS antennas as well.   Which amp
did you get?

On Aug 24, 2016 12:29 AM, "Rory Conaway"  wrote:

> Any suggestions on long-range, multi-band antennas?  It’s for a Wilson
> repeater and the cable is 100’ long or more.
>
>
>
> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>
> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>
> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>
> *r...@triadwireless.net *
>
> *www.triadwireless.net *
>
>
>
> “Baseball, it is said, is only a game.  True.  And the Grand Canyon is
> only a hole in Arizona”.  -  George Frederick Will
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] PPS DDOS

[Josh Reynolds]

I have seen the specs and have deployed both products.

One is a dual core 1GHz PPC proc, the other uses a 36 core TILE
processor at 1.2GHz. Not exactly apples to apples. The performance
show in the "Performance Test Results" not only doesn't equate to
"about 10 times more PPS" (depending on the test, sometimes up to ~17x
increase), but also doesn't consider the fact that it's an "All Ports"
test. With the CCRs dedicating a core (at least) per port, it's not an
identical comparison.

If you consider all 13 ports on an 1100AHx2 are shared between 2
cores, and just assume that the 12 ports on that model CCR are using
12 TILE cores (and no more), then you end up with a 2.84x increase in
per-core PPS performance BEST CASE (with FastPath). If you look at the
overall system best case (fastpath), of course you have a 17x increase
in kpps performance "as a system". Worst case however, you find a
5.35x increase in system performance.

A huge improvement, to be sure, but the TILE processor package can be
very deceiving depending on the context of the evaluation.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
 wrote:
> You can see this info in the specs...
>
> ---
> https://routerboard.com/RB1100AHx2-LM
> https://routerboard.com/RB1100Hx2
>
> https://routerboard.com/CCR1036-12G-4S
> ==
>
> just scroll down to the bottom of the page, and look at the kpps column
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Josh Reynolds" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 11:40:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PPS DDOS
>
>> "besides those cores can handle about 10 time more pps..."
>> ... than what, a core on a RB1100?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 10:02 PM, Faisal Imtiaz
>>  wrote:
>>> Pretty Common, can fly under the radar...
>>>
>>> BTW, here is where you are seeing the Beauty of a CCR...
>>> CCR has many small cores for CPU, and has one dedicated CPU per port,
>>> Thus traffic such as this will not affect the Router as a whole..
>>>
>>> besides those cores can handle about 10 time more pps...
>>> and that is not the case with the RB1100  :)
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>
>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>>
>>> - Original Message -
 From: "Nate Burke" 
 To: "Animal Farm" 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 9:00:54 PM
 Subject: [AFMUG] PPS DDOS
>>>
 Just had a DDOS that was only 30mb/s but running over 110,000 pps It
 took down a RB 1100, but a CCR 1036 upstream was still at 0% CPU (and a
 trango licensed link didn't care either)  Followed the typical Gamer
 DDOS of lasting <10min.  In the torch I captured, almost all the src
 traffic was from an Asian telco /13 so I'm guessing it was sourced from
 a bunch of compromised modems.

 I don't think I've seen one like this before with low Bandwidth but high
>> >> PPS.

[AFMUG] cellular repeater antenna

[Rory Conaway]

Any suggestions on long-range, multi-band antennas?  It's for a Wilson repeater 
and the cable is 100' long or more.

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"Baseball, it is said, is only a game.  True.  And the Grand Canyon is only a 
hole in Arizona".  -  George Frederick Will