Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

Matt, Thanks for the idea. We actually have turned all the RF visible FSK off. Unfortunately there was no change with the 450i performance. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

[AFMUG] OT: Organized Pseudolegal commercial arguments

Have any of you ever encountered these "freemen on the land" nutjobs? For reference: http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abqb/doc/2012/2012abqb571/2012abqb571.pdf

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

From what he told me today, yes, and the new integrated sector was pretty much a replacement. And I did ask if they listened to us about null fill for their in-house developed antennas. Yup, just like the Laird's. I'm really impressed with the compactness. It does have a bit of heft from the

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber advertising / mailers?

I have been using market broadband proximity mailing. Provide them with your coverage area and they send cards to your folks in your coverage area only. Send them the clients you install and they send to the area around your install. I can send contact information off list. On Sep 28, 2016 7:47

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber advertising / mailers?

Making some right now, remind me again in a week and I should have proof. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jon Langeler Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Fiber advertising / mailers? Does anyone have any

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Is that the panel that Matt said wasn’t for frequency reuse because it didn’t have the F/B or sidelobe performance? More for sticking on a rooftop to hit a few business customers? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:22

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

You missed an e500 raffle. I didn't win one. :( On 9/28/2016 8:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Oh yeah, that was today. I've been too busy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Oh yeah, that was today. I've been too busy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 8:21:30 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

I was looking at radio porn all day at Cambium HQ. Medusa is sexy. The radio, not the freak, I mean Greek chick. And did anyone know that there's a new 5GHz 450i 90 degree integrated sector? I'm not talking about the one that has not-so-good f/b ratio (which Matt said is not being sold

Re: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question

The only time I had stuff go flying is when I took the work van into the ditch due to black ice on hwy 39. The old Astro vans at that time had the cage behind the seats but the mid section/door removed. Stuff really goes when you hit the snow filled ditch at 65. I honestly had very little reason

Re: [AFMUG] Can't downgrade mikrotik routeros

I don't think it's wise to downgrade below shipped firmware. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Darin Steffl" To: "Mikrotik Users" ,

Re: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question

I pulled the door out of my van, haven't missed it at all. On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Probably be fine.The first couple we did had the center door in the > panel. I thought it was cool that you could walk back and forth and I > liked being

Re: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question

Probably be fine.The first couple we did had the center door in the panel. I thought it was cool that you could walk back and forth and I liked being able to work inside and get to the tools and equipment when it was rainy or cold out. Of course the installers promptly piled everything

Re: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question

Some partitions (e.g. Adrian Steel) are ordered as 3 panels. I wonder if it would be acceptable to just install the side panels and leave out the center panel. The ones that let you stow a 6 ft stepladder sideways at the bottom are clever. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

Re: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question

I've always thought their main purpose was for security, I'm guessing you're not in/near a big city or a place with a lot of drug addicts... I usually see partitions on windowless contractor vans that also have locks like these on the rear and side door:

Re: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question

Here you go https://goo.gl/images/fDrG66

Re: [AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question

I don’t know that there is any legal requirement, but I wouldn’t want to have an employee injured in a work van without one and have to deal with that. I suppose in your van you can do what you want :-) I have had one (ex) employee total a Sprinter in a front end collision. There was a lot

Re: [AFMUG] Can't downgrade mikrotik routeros

Ccr-1009-8g-1s-1s+ On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Nathan Anderson wrote: > (Holy cross-posting, Batman!) > > > > It is possible that MT did a board revision, and the newer revision of the > hardware requires 6.35.2 as minimum for the reasons Josh stated > (drivers/hardware

[AFMUG] cargo van partition/bulkhead question

Is there any legal or insurance requirement to have one of these? I hate them, and while I understand they are to prevent decapitation by a flying object from the cargo area, I can't recall ever having such a flying object. I like having a rear window on the van for visibility, and even with

Re: [AFMUG] Can't downgrade mikrotik routeros

(Holy cross-posting, Batman!) It is possible that MT did a board revision, and the newer revision of the hardware requires 6.35.2 as minimum for the reasons Josh stated (drivers/hardware support, etc.). However, you could certainly try your luck with Netinstall. What model of CCR is this?

Re: [AFMUG] Can't downgrade mikrotik routeros

Probably a requirement for drivers or the firmware :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 28, 2016 7:05 PM, "Darin Steffl" wrote: > Looks like the os won't let me go below the factory version according

Re: [AFMUG] Can't downgrade mikrotik routeros

Yes I clicked downgrade already and tried it from the command line. On Wednesday, September 28, 2016, Josh Luthman wrote: > Did you click downgrade? You don't do this like a normal update. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elon Musk about to talk about colonizing Mars

Yep.. I watch it on Sundays on MeTV On Sep 28, 2016 4:58 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Do you mean as in "Bang, zoom, you're going to the moon, Alice"? > > -Original Message- > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince > Sent: Wednesday, September 28,

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Can't downgrade mikrotik routeros

Did you click downgrade? You don't do this like a normal update. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 28, 2016 6:58 PM, "Darin Steffl" wrote: > Hello all, > > We are trying to install our normal mikrotik

[AFMUG] Can't downgrade mikrotik routeros

Hello all, We are trying to install our normal mikrotik os version which is 6.32.4 since we have tested and found it the most stable. The latest ccr router we received has 6.35.2 on it and we're not having any luck getting it to downgrade to the stable bug fix version. Some mikrotik forum posts

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elon Musk about to talk about colonizing Mars

Do you mean as in "Bang, zoom, you're going to the moon, Alice"? -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 5:06 PM To: Motorola III Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elon Musk about to talk about colonizing

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elon Musk about to talk about colonizing Mars

Hopefully soon enough? bp On 9/28/2016 2:40 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > I would like to see a few choice folks go to Mars Not too soon.

Re: [AFMUG] Billing system survey rehash

Might just be that Simon had a pretty impressive salary. IDK,JS bp On 9/27/2016 9:27 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: personal thoughts?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elon Musk about to talk about colonizing Mars

I would like to see a few choice folks go to Mars Not too soon. On Sep 28, 2016 3:30 PM, "Craig Schmaderer" wrote: > I was thinking the same thing! > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Wright > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elon Musk about to talk about colonizing Mars

I was thinking the same thing! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chris Wright Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elon Musk about to talk about colonizing Mars He certainly didn't let me down, but those inane questions from

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

First post I read in this thread. I don’t think I want to know. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow Sex with Chuck and what else?

Re: [AFMUG] Calix gigacenter 844E

you need to get the consumer connect product from calix for it to be worth it. It's the management portion that really makes it shine. ​ Carlos Alcantar Race Communications / Race Team Member 1325 Howard Ave. #604, Burlingame, CA. 94010 Phone: +1 415 376 3314 / car...@race.com /

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

What about the Timbersled mentioned earlier in the thread? As soon as I mentioned SEX the thread went down the toilet. Steve B. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:58 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Thought she was not particularly interested in guys... bp On 9/28/2016 12:26 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > Fix you right up with K.D. Lang...

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Yuk... I should have slept longer... Where is my eye and memory wash? On Sep 28, 2016 1:34 PM, "Wireless Administrator" wrote: > Ouch, > > > > This K.D. Lang > > > > > > > > I thought we were friends. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Ouch, This K.D. Lang I thought we were friends. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow Fix you right up with K.D. Lang... From: Wireless

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Wow... See what happens when I sleep for a few hours during the day. I miss all this. On Sep 28, 2016 1:26 PM, wrote: > Fix you right up with K.D. Lang... > > *From:* Wireless Administrator > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:23 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Fix you right up with K.D. Lang... From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:23 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow He’s not my type but does he have a sister and does she have a girlfriend friend? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

He’s not my type but does he have a sister and does she have a girlfriend friend? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 3:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow Sex with Chuck and what else? -

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Well he did say two things. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:16:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Re: [AFMUG] Calix gigacenter 844E

Well it works with the E7 GPON card on the other end. So yeah, you kinda gotta be a Calex using company to make the G version work. The E version will work on anything but you will only get all the nice things if you are setup with Calix to make use of the whole suite of features. From: James

Re: [AFMUG] Calix gigacenter 844E

I thought the 844G was the gpon version. So you can't get the software for them unless you're setup to buy them directly from Calix? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andy Trimmell Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Giggity giggity goo! On Sep 28, 2016 2:16 PM, wrote: > Like that’s not enough? > > *From:* Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:09 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow > > Sex with Chuck and what else? > > > > - > Mike Hammett

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Like that’s not enough? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow Sex with Chuck and what else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Sex with Chuck and what else? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Wireless Administrator" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 1:23:09 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Calix gigacenter 844E

Its only feature rich with the software Calix gives you. Just selling you a router is just sending you a router with a fiber gpon interface. Doesn't do any good without the horse. If you talk to Calix they'll help you understand the hardware and let you try stuff out. No reason to even buy it

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Now I can think of two reasons to move to Utah. Steve -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Wireless Administrator Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow OK, I got it now! You're Mormon..

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

We are pretty good at some things -Original Message- From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow OK, I got it now! You're Mormon.. Steve -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

OK, I got it now! You're Mormon.. Steve -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow You must not be doin' it right... -Original

Re: [AFMUG] Well kinda LTE

Yep On Sep 28, 2016 10:58 AM, "Chris Wright" wrote: > Looks like your camera found your Tecate stash. > > > > Chris Wright > > Network Administrator > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:44 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Well kinda LTE

Must be oreillys that you help setup -Original Message- From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Date: 09/28/16 12:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Well kinda LTE Ha... Didn't use focus button. Wanna be Critic you  On Sep 28, 2016 10:45 AM, "Josh

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Elon Musk about to talk about colonizing Mars

He certainly didn't let me down, but those inane questions from audience members certainly did. Makes me want to leave this planet even more. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Craig Schmaderer Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 11:29 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Well kinda LTE

Looks like your camera found your Tecate stash. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 9:44 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Well kinda LTE Installed a Digi LTE WAN router and Help Cloud

[AFMUG] Calix gigacenter 844E

So, you guys have said some good things about these routers. I don't want to go through all the trouble getting setup with them if they don't end up being something that we want to sell to our customers. Can one of you guys who use them now just sell me one? James Howard LiteWire Internet

Re: [AFMUG] Well kinda LTE

Velo Cloud not Help... Too early for phone.. On Sep 28, 2016 10:45 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Is that the new iPhone 7 camera? Looks like it went the way of the > headphone jack. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St >

Re: [AFMUG] Well kinda LTE

Is that the new iPhone 7 camera? Looks like it went the way of the headphone jack. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 12:43 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Installed a Digi LTE WAN

Re: [AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting

+1 for the concept. We use Banana Pi's running Debian for smokeping remotes and iperf. They have gig ports and have enough CPU to take advantage of them. We started with rPi's but their Ethernet couldn't keep up. Costs under $100 for a board, box, and sd card. On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 8:53 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

I don't think so! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYCT-qWZz44 -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow You must not be doin' it right...

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

LOL -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:08 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow You must not be doin' it right... -Original Message- From: Wireless Administrator Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

You must not be doin' it right... -Original Message- From: Wireless Administrator Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 10:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow It's the only machine I know of that's more fun than sex. -Original Message- From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

It's the only machine I know of that's more fun than sex. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 12:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow Looks like a great way to get the tow line

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Looks like a great way to get the tow line for the nice warm comfy sno-cat to the next tree On 09/28/2016 08:51 AM, Wireless Administrator wrote: I have the machine for you ,, Timbersled Problem Solved!!! I�d be on tower service calls every day. Steve B *From:*Af

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Yeah, did you see the vid posted last year of the sno-cat sliding sideways down the hill... Not a fun ride... On 9/28/16 8:00 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: They look cool, and would be "fun" to have... but they would never get to some of the tower sites we had in Idaho. All their demo videos are

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Robert, time to eat a Snickers Bar. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 9:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow Rory, ��� A) do you know something about the weather down in Phx that no one else

[AFMUG] Fiber advertising / mailers?

Does anyone have any fiber advertising mailers or pamphlets they are willing to share? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.

Re: [AFMUG] Bring on the snow

Nah, just that I have drooled over those for my Jeep for years.. Just can't convince myself to pull the trigger... then there is the point that I would need to put them on a trailer to haul them to where I can put them on... But Droooll.. On 9/28/16 7:24 AM, Rory Conaway

Re: [AFMUG] Small PC for remote Troubleshooting

If all you want is something to connect to remotely and don't need an actual Windows desktop, you could use a Raspberry Pi Zero with a USB Ethernet adapter attached for the whopping sum of about $40. Of course you would need -some- linux know how as well unless someone was willing to write up a

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

> In response to you and George. Yes I am on a 7mhx channel. Co located with > FSK. We froze the conversion for now from FSK to the 450i because of the > concerns we had with the uplink and control slots needed. Obviously if we > got rid of the FSK or did a lot of configuration changes network

[AFMUG] ISP Radio Today -- 11am CST

Nathan Stooke will be on today; we will be talking about WISAPALOOZA and what you can expect from this year's show! Watch live at http://www.ispradio.com Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik Certified