Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Display port is like usb of video. All kinds of possibilities that may or may not actually work On Feb 17, 2017 10:58 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort ;-) > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

[AFMUG] Current 5ghz rules and firmwares

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
So this week, as far as I know I have the whole network on current firmware operating at the current typeset. It's cost me on oob rules for backhauls. As I understand it though, if I had not done this, even if I replaced an existing radio with the same model since its new hardware I would have to

Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-02-17 Thread Mike Hammett
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 10:56:17 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-02-17 Thread Nate Burke
Has display port changed any? I have no displays that are inherently display port, so the back of my machine now is a mess of adapters and power supplies to convert 4 monitors from Display port to HDMI. On 2/17/2017 7:42 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Display port is the shit, you can do

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I share all my food with my kids. My daughter in particular is a little foodie.but the few times I lay my hands on authentic real tamales, always made by a Mexican aunt, I hoard them, I'll eat them in the dark in a closet with the door shut. On Feb 17, 2017 7:48 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I always though Lewis was a liberal with a bad spell checker On Feb 17, 2017 8:39 PM, "Robert" wrote: > I think the points on oil you make are valid. Your point that I have no > clue, is a personal attack a) in that you have no idea who I am b) you have > no idea of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Robert
I think the points on oil you make are valid. Your point that I have no clue, is a personal attack a) in that you have no idea who I am b) you have no idea of what I know or how I might know what I profess to know. You may debate that there are two factions controlling this effort and

Re: [AFMUG] Titanfall 2 Servers

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha funny On Feb 17, 2017 7:23 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > 8.8.8.8 > > On Feb 17, 2017 8:21 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > >> *bump* >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>

Re: [AFMUG] Titanfall 2 Servers

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
8.8.8.8 On Feb 17, 2017 8:21 PM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > *bump* > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Titanfall 2 Servers

2017-02-17 Thread Mike Hammett
*bump* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 9:05:32 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Titanfall 2 Servers Does

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
OK.. Deal On Feb 17, 2017 6:40 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > A real tamale recipe, but it can only come from a Mexican aunt (they're > the only ones who truly know how to make them) with clear gringo > preparation instructions, from sourcing the right

Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Display port is the shit, you can do 2-4 monitors from a single port On Feb 17, 2017 4:46 PM, "Nate Burke" wrote: I found the Dell Refurb site. AMD Video card gives a Display port and DVI, I5 8gb ram for $209. That might be what I'm looking for. On 2/17/2017 4:44 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
A real tamale recipe, but it can only come from a Mexican aunt (they're the only ones who truly know how to make them) with clear gringo preparation instructions, from sourcing the right ingredients to how old of a pan to use. If I have this, I might say Fuck Trump and drink tecate On Feb 17,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I have a link, never was great, but the numbers were spot in when I installed it, sent the guys out to raise it, turns out they must have spent the day blowing each other and cuddling because when we paid to have a guy come test the output at the radios, the feedhorns and test the leads, it was

Re: [AFMUG] Stable tik firmware

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I'll ultimately need to have bgp I and e if there is a difference, ospf, and whatever for mpls functional. I love these mikrotiks for cost and featurset with a good user base for reaching out to, but I tell you, the ubiquiti level of firmware mishaps is frustrating. I should have just done CC$$

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
Please ignore the "it", that's what happens when I try to email on my phone. On Friday, February 17, 2017, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > So it DHCP wasn't working correctly through a VPLS tunnel? > > On Friday, February 17, 2017, Sterling Jacobson

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
So it DHCP wasn't working correctly through a VPLS tunnel? On Friday, February 17, 2017, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > Yes, I have two. > > > > I tried to relay them to an offsite DHCP server for simplicity but > something wasn’t working and I had to revert back. > > > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Stable tik firmware

2017-02-17 Thread Mathew Howard
I've been slowly upgrading things to 6.36.4, and it seems fine, but we've still got a lot on 6.35.4 too. I haven't done anything to speak of with anything newer yet. On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 1:43 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > we run rb100AHx2 across the network,

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'd like to know where you get a case like that for $15. I was happy to find a supplier for the 19 rackmount cases for the new rackmount injectors under $100 in quantity. -forrest On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote: > Seriously doubt it. More like $10-15 on a

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Yes, I have two. I tried to relay them to an offsite DHCP server for simplicity but something wasn’t working and I had to revert back. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 4:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS Do you

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
(should say "switches" or "routers", sorry cooking dinner) On Feb 17, 2017 5:46 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > No, no it's not. > > VPLS creates a transparent layer2 tunnel by itself running over switched > or IP routed infrastructure. Overlaying QinQ on top of that can make

Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

2017-02-17 Thread Chris Wright
I can attest to it. Some customers who were fringe at 2x leapt to 6x modulation, at least one went from 2x to 8x. 450 AP @ 40 degree sector -> 450M AP. Chris Wright Network Administrator -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
Destination IP and subnet mask vs. label. On Friday, February 17, 2017, Ken Hohhof wrote: > Why do you say “full route”? > > > > Seems like the lookup is destination IP à next hop. Doesn’t seem like > rocket science. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread

2017-02-17 Thread Justin Wilson
This is from Andy at Bridgemaxx. In all cases, they would be riding along customer traffic, so probably only a few hundred mbps available .. 104.37.102.206 speedtest / bridgemaxx Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers -

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Why do you say “full route”? Seems like the lookup is destination IP --> next hop. Doesn’t seem like rocket science. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 5:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] MPLS MPLS is

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
Do you keep your DHCP server(s) at the core in this setup? On Friday, February 17, 2017, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > We use it for both and then a few more tags for business clients with > multiple POPs hanging off our network. > > > > Works great. > > > > Just want to push

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Carl Peterson
"You stretch vlans over your mpls fabric?" Thats what VPLS is for... On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 6:02 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote: > MPLS is supposed to be “faster” than pure IP routing. It wont have to > lookup the full route in the route table.. just match the appropriate

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I believe it is something about processing packets for fastpath on the VPLS end tunnel that hasn’t been added yet in Mikrotik. So I keep waiting for it to show up, but haven’t seen it yet. Could also be something else about implementing MPLS across that path, but that’s when everything ‘slowed

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep between 1 10 and 1 20 past Ft Stockton there are thousands of them .. On Feb 17, 2017 3:55 PM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > The worst part for me is the freaking eye-sore these things create. I > drive a couple times a year from Fort Worth to Taos, NM and west Texas is >

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
MPLS is supposed to be “faster” than pure IP routing. It wont have to lookup the full route in the route table.. just match the appropriate label to the label table. If that is true on Mikrotik, I couldn’t tell you. > On Feb 17, 2017, at 3:59 PM, Sterling Jacobson

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Or Awesome? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 4:17 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin... Only if it is fabulous On

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Sterling Jacobson
We use it for both and then a few more tags for business clients with multiple POPs hanging off our network. Works great. Just want to push the envelope more with my capacity. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 3:36 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread

2017-02-17 Thread Cameron Crum
The worst part for me is the freaking eye-sore these things create. I drive a couple times a year from Fort Worth to Taos, NM and west Texas is littered with these things as far as the eye can see. Looks like shit and half of them are never even spinning. I'd much rather see the boring prairie

Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Get one with Display port and get converter to HDMI On Feb 17, 2017 3:37 PM, "Nate Burke" wrote: > The Wife is looking for a new Desktop, She doesn't need anything fancy > (i3, i5 is fine), but want's to have 2 monitors hooked up to it (HDMI > Inputs) I really don't feel

Re: [AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-02-17 Thread Nate Burke
I found the Dell Refurb site. AMD Video card gives a Display port and DVI, I5 8gb ram for $209. That might be what I'm looking for. On 2/17/2017 4:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Get one with Display port and get converter to HDMI On Feb 17, 2017 3:37 PM, "Nate Burke"

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Vlad Sedov
Seriously doubt it. More like $10-15 on a bad day.. Vlad On 2/17/2017 4:25 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: The case cost more than $50 On Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 4:03 PM Keefe John > wrote: So they're charging $995.00 for something that likely

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/17/17 13:09, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: OMG it IS a raspberry pi and a DC-DC converter in a box. (Yeah I know you said that but the picture definitely drives it home). I thought it was a joke, like "I could do this with a Pi". But then it literally is a Pi. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Vlad Sedov
4x markup for something that works is very reasonable. 10x or more markup for a poorly-built device is a bit much.. They could have at least included a hot glue stick to fix the dang power connector. Vlad On 2/17/2017 4:20 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Nothing new. Solectek got started by using

[AFMUG] Searching for a simple Desktop PC

2017-02-17 Thread Nate Burke
The Wife is looking for a new Desktop, She doesn't need anything fancy (i3, i5 is fine), but want's to have 2 monitors hooked up to it (HDMI Inputs) I really don't feel like building one. Oh, and she want's it cheap. Looking at the Dell, HP, and Lenovo sites, cheap PC's are really easy to

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
I was debating on whether to just use VPLS for my management traffic and then routing customer traffic as normal, or put both in separate VPLS instances. On Friday, February 17, 2017, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > I’m using it on 6.38 and so far so good. > > > > I use it all

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Lewis Bergman
The case cost more than $50 On Fri, Feb 17, 2017, 4:03 PM Keefe John wrote: > So they're charging $995.00 for something that likely cost them < $50. > Now you know their profit margins on radios and other hardware. > > Keefe > > On 2/17/2017 3:28 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote: > >

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Nothing new. Solectek got started by using a PC, SMC Ethernet card, NCR WaveLAN card and KarlNet software on memory card. Back then parts about 600..sold for 2499.00 if I recall... Same with OverLAN and TTI. On Feb 17, 2017 3:06 PM, "Vlad Sedov" wrote: > Well, I can see

Re: [AFMUG] DC -48 voltage grounding

2017-02-17 Thread chuck
No, not dumb. Put a fuse in the -48 leg. Hopefully neither the radio or the power supply connect either side to ground. If one of them does the other needs to be floating or matching. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 3:15 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Only if it is fabulous On Feb 17, 2017 2:59 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Is he channeling Shep Smith? > > > > Or maybe he went to the White House and Trump made him order the meatloaf, > like Christie. > > > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of

[AFMUG] DC -48 voltage grounding

2017-02-17 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Is it dumb of me to run a pair of wires up a tower 30 feet to connect DC voltage to the radio straight to the power supply in a cabinet at the base? If so, what do I do to ground it or fuse it or isolate it?

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I’m using it on 6.38 and so far so good. I use it all over and at the core. But I’m still experiencing ‘slow downs’ at the VPLS port where I don’t get 9Gbps anymore, and it appears to be reduced to 5Gbps and 2Gbps for up/down. So I’m thinking of reverting back to straight OSPF and VRRP for my

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Vlad Sedov
So Trump's secret plan was to get WISPs to pay for the wall... Vlad On 2/17/2017 4:07 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: They need to cover the 35% tax for building it in Mexico. *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Keefe John *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 4:03 PM *To:*

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
They need to cover the 35% tax for building it in Mexico. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 4:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium? So they're charging $995.00 for something that

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Vlad Sedov
Well, I can see paying premium for radios.. After all, they work good, and make us lots of money.. They are well-engineered and tested for the most part. The CMM5 controller is a hobby-grade piece of untested off-the-shelf crap, and does not justify the price tag. Vlad On 2/17/2017 4:02 PM,

[AFMUG] Items for sale

2017-02-17 Thread Timothy Yent
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Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Keefe John
So they're charging $995.00 for something that likely cost them < $50. Now you know their profit margins on radios and other hardware. Keefe On 2/17/2017 3:28 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote: Awesome! Can't wait. We have a bunch of these Medusas going up in the near future.. Vlad On 2/17/2017

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Is he channeling Shep Smith? Or maybe he went to the White House and Trump made him order the meatloaf, like Christie. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was

Re: [AFMUG] Lightening protection

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
https://www.lashdelivery.com delivers On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > We install near radio and indoors. We also you air terminals above > antennas and radios So far, we have not had any blown radios in > southern NM and West Texas

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
I thought you just used vpls for that... On Friday, February 17, 2017, Josh Reynolds wrote: > You stretch vlans over your mpls fabric? > > :( > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Carl Peterson > > wrote: > > I've never used it on

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Ha...good one On Feb 17, 2017 2:45 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > [image: Inline image 1] > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:43 PM, wrote: > >> OK, when this changes to Fuck Trump? >> >> Then we know we hit a milestone. >> >> *From:* Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] Lightening protection

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
We install near radio and indoors. We also you air terminals above antennas and radios So far, we have not had any blown radios in southern NM and West Texas Here is a picture of lightning protection on water tank... Air terminals just arrived today but I came home to deal with water

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
[image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 3:43 PM, wrote: > OK, when this changes to Fuck Trump? > > Then we know we hit a milestone. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 2:41 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread chuck
OK, when this changes to Fuck Trump? Then we know we hit a milestone. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 2:41 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin... Anger? Not really... Fuck Trump... Dealing with water line damage in attic...

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Anger? Not really... Fuck Trump... Dealing with water line damage in attic... Three rooms affected as well as outlets and equipment damage... Water heater caused problem. Contractor friend jumped on it.. House full of pumps and fans Not weekend I had planned... BTW. Fuck Trump On Feb

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Maybe It's time for this to come out and play: [image: Inline image 1] On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:10 PM, wrote: > Forest, I’ll bet you can offer them for $799, right? > > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) > *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 2:09 PM > *To:* af >

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
You stretch vlans over your mpls fabric? :( On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: > I've never used it on Router OS, so I can't speak to that, but we use it > between each POP and the BNG. > Only real drawbacks that I see are: > You need to be

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Vlad Sedov
Awesome! Can't wait. We have a bunch of these Medusas going up in the near future.. Vlad On 2/17/2017 3:17 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: So this looks like as good of a place as any to provide this tidbit: I finally found the component I was looking for to complete the

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Not really. I've looked at this a few times - one of the things I've played with in the skunkworks is a "SiteMonitor Pi" which wouldn't hide what it was - a base unit, with a pi compute module instead of the normal CPU, and running a Raspbian based distro. Between power consumption, undefined

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Luthman
That's what I said!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 4:09 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > OMG it IS a raspberry pi and a DC-DC converter in a box. (Yeah I know you >

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
So this looks like as good of a place as any to provide this tidbit: I finally found the component I was looking for to complete the cambium sync design here, and I now have a breadboarded solution to sync Medusa (and 450i) via 'cambium sync) here. Seems to be working. I'm in the process of

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread chuck
Forest, I’ll bet you can offer them for $799, right? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 2:09 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium? OMG it IS a raspberry pi and a DC-DC converter in a box. (Yeah I know you said that but

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
OMG it IS a raspberry pi and a DC-DC converter in a box. (Yeah I know you said that but the picture definitely drives it home). On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote: > This is a finished product, minus lid (see pic) > > Most of the code is just opensource OS for

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
he will be ok as long as when he hits the bargaining phase he doesnt try jewing On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:49 PM, wrote: > Not the first time Tropical anal mist has been mentioned here. > > I am just waiting for Jaime to get through the 5 levels of grief. > Denial > Anger >

Re: [AFMUG] Lightening protection

2017-02-17 Thread chuck
Here is a very non biased opinion... (tongue firmly implanted in cheek)... It is the strikes in the 0-2 mile zone that induce the damaging currents in all conductors. http://www.surge-suppression.org/ From: Jason McKemie Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 1:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread chuck
Not the first time Tropical anal mist has been mentioned here. I am just waiting for Jaime to get through the 5 levels of grief. Denial Anger Bargaining Depression Acceptance I think he is in the anger phase at the moment... From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 1:16 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Carl Peterson
I've never used it on Router OS, so I can't speak to that, but we use it between each POP and the BNG. Only real drawbacks that I see are: You need to be careful about MTUs. It is harder to use diverse geographically separated upstreams. It makes life simple. We run a SVLAN over VPLS to each

Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

2017-02-17 Thread Matt Mangriotis
I would suggest trying it. The 450m also has 5-6 dB better uplink sensitivity. When you add the uplink beamforming gains to this, you'll see uplink modulation improvements in nearly all the SMs on the sector. Others can chime in with their experiences, but there's enough evidence of this,

[AFMUG] Lightening protection

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm curious if anyone else has seen a benefit to installing suppression outdoors near the radio in tower situations (either straight DC or PoE). I've seen mixed results with this, but had a couple of situations last season that had me wondering if it would make a difference. -Jason

Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

2017-02-17 Thread Matt
> IIRC, the 450m does not have the active filter like the 450i. They are > instead relying on the beam-steering to combat the noise. That's a bit disappointing. We have sites that have PTP450 backhauls and PMP450 AP's in 5 ghz band on same tower.

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
I'll have to catch up on some of those, just wondered what others had found. On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > There are a lot of NANOG presentations on this topic in Google. > > On Feb 17, 2017 2:27 PM, "Jason McKemie"

Re: [AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
There are a lot of NANOG presentations on this topic in Google. On Feb 17, 2017 2:27 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > I'm starting to utilize MPLS/VPLS at the edge of my network for a specific > location, but am wondering if there is any reason to not just use it

[AFMUG] MPLS

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
I'm starting to utilize MPLS/VPLS at the edge of my network for a specific location, but am wondering if there is any reason to not just use it all the way back to the core. What are the pros/cons of using MPLS? I would think that you could save some public IPs if nothing else. Also, has anyone

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chevy Bolt

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL On Feb 17, 2017 2:11 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Here is a test to resolve the question. > > Hold up 2 photos, 1 of a car, and 1 of Justin Trudeau. Which photo are > you staring at? > > If it’s not the car, you and Ivanka can go shoe shopping. > > > > *From:* Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
Tropical anal mist. Never thought I'd read that phrase on this list. I'm not offended, I'm impressed. On Feb 17, 2017 2:12 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Boom. Bullshit. it was racist... I know every Chicano, Latino, > Mexican and Tropical Anal Mist one out

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Adam Moffett
.but do you know Joe from Canada? -- Original Message -- From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: 2/17/2017 3:12:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin... Boom. Bullshit. it was racist... I know every

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread Jaime Solorza
Boom. Bullshit. it was racist... I know every Chicano, Latino, Mexican and Tropical Anal Mist one out there... I will set up a meeting. I feel like I spitting up to heaven So bad On Feb 17, 2017 12:50 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > with

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chevy Bolt

2017-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Here is a test to resolve the question. Hold up 2 photos, 1 of a car, and 1 of Justin Trudeau. Which photo are you staring at? If it’s not the car, you and Ivanka can go shoe shopping. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 1:59

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chevy Bolt

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
You sure you don't just want to see my junk? I mean, hey, it's 2017. Not my thing, but whatever man :P On Feb 17, 2017 1:24 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: I'm not calling you the girl. I should have used a quoted format. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Reynolds
LOL On Feb 17, 2017 1:52 PM, wrote: > Did they really think one of us would not have opened the lid? > > Can you imagine the collective groans coming from Cambium land today. > > There was a disturbance in the force, like dozens of engineers getting > lashed by the tongues of

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread chuck
Did they really think one of us would not have opened the lid? Can you imagine the collective groans coming from Cambium land today. There was a disturbance in the force, like dozens of engineers getting lashed by the tongues of pointy haired managers... -Original Message- From:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
with scumbags like her, that was by design to trip him up and call him a racist She tried to pull the lie about the whitehouse having dossiers on reporters and threatening her, but got caught when it turns out she was being recorded She would be a great reporter for the onion On Fri, Feb 17,

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread chuck
Too funny. When I considered using Pi, I discovered that there was a severe limitation in obtaining production quantities. Has that changed. -Original Message- From: Vlad Sedov Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 10:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread was Obama admin...

2017-02-17 Thread chuck
When she said CBC, I heard CDC. I didn’t know what CBC was, it appeared Trump didn’t either. But I thought he recovered well enough. Seemed obvious he didn’t know what CBC was (neither did I). If she had said Congressional Black Caucus, then it would have never been an issue. From: That

[AFMUG] Stable tik firmware

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we run rb100AHx2 across the network, not alot to the configs, straight routing, OSPF a couple bridges and a DHCP relay we have been on 6.35.4 with no issues for a while Checking current releases, we are a bit behind. but i see 6.36 gives me fqdn for firewall acl, I need this for my remote

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Vlad Sedov
Oh, and get this.. Disconnect power from it and let it boot a few times... After a few cycles, web server no longer works. There's a service bulletin for this problem as of Monday... "Can't access GUI Interface" / //"We expect to have a software fix identified and available// //shortly.

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Lewis Bergman
Hey...give'em a break. Those ferrite beads are pricey. On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 1:30 PM Vlad Sedov wrote: > Yup. Pi 3, 2015 edition. You can plug in HDMI and watch it boot. > > > > Vlad > > > > On 2/17/2017 1:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > LOL it literally is a Pi. I thought

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Vlad Sedov
Yup. Pi 3, 2015 edition. You can plug in HDMI and watch it boot. Vlad On 2/17/2017 1:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: LOL it literally is a Pi. I thought you were talking relatively. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 17,

Re: [AFMUG] CMM5 controller.. Are you serious, Cambium?

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Luthman
LOL it literally is a Pi. I thought you were talking relatively. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 12:11 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote: > This is a finished product, minus lid (see pic) > > Most of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Chevy Bolt

2017-02-17 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm not calling you the girl. I should have used a quoted format. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I don't have a Hyundai. I have a Jeep (bought when I

Re: [AFMUG] 450M limited vs 450i integrated sector

2017-02-17 Thread George Skorup
IIRC, the 450m does not have the active filter like the 450i. They are instead relying on the beam-steering to combat the noise. On 2/17/2017 11:31 AM, SmarterBroadband wrote: Hi Craig We had a 450 fail a while back and we replaced it with a 450i. The customers connections improved so we

[AFMUG] FS: Misc from office cleaning

2017-02-17 Thread Jason McKemie
I have the following available: 9x Cyclone Rotopol 5700 (unused) 7x Motorola 600ss (unused) 4x Motorola 2400sm (used, believed to be working) 1x Motorola 5700sm (used, believed to be working) 2x WBH 2.4GHz stinger (unused) 1x WBH 5.7GHz 450 stinger (unused) 1x WBH RCL-1 (unused) 2x Motorola 5GHz

[AFMUG] OT - fire spewing drones

2017-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
http://gizmodo.com/power-company-sends-fire-spewing-drone-to-burn-trash-of-1 792482517 Sorry, no recipes. But . fire spewing drones!

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread

2017-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
As part of the zoning approval, they pretty much get forced to put in that language. Otherwise, they could avoid setting aside money to restore the land, and just skip town leaving the landowners with rusting hulks and concrete blocks to clean up. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread

2017-02-17 Thread Ken Hohhof
Lots of things are head scratchers. Like supposedly Chevy loses money selling the Bolt. But maybe that makes sense if it helps them achieve required fleet averages. But what if Trump's EPA nixes all that? Does it still make sense to lose money on Bolts? Maybe it still does, if it helps

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jaime's thread

2017-02-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
The lease on the turbine on the old ladies family estate has the 10 year renewing lease (it auto renews with a bunch of numbers about changes to the calculation) but it does state it is intended to cease operation in 30 years. There is a residual trust on each one to cover the cost of removal,

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