Re: [AFMUG] Shenanigans
no, youre south, this is central On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com wrote: Central On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Do you know how I know you're from the south? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, April 2, 2015 9:51:00 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Shenanigans If you're going that route, 2 J arm feet and a 10' stick of emt will fix you right up. ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Apr 2, 2015, at 6:55 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: It wouldn't be so bad if there were two attachment points into the brick, 18-24 apart and it would hold up just fine. On 4/2/2015 6:48 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote: Wow. How? I'm guessing with that tall of a pole there are a lot of trees all around? - Original Message - *From:* Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 4:19 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shenanigans Corn field wind. Normal thunderstorms are 30-40 mph. On 4/2/2015 2:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Do you not have wind there? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net wrote: Reminding operators to Q.C. their tech's work. Fortunately this has held up for nearly a year as-is. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Something New and Exciting!
oh man, i just notices the adjustable tilt. Im in love with this thing On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Right now, they are plates with round stock at the ends. They do hook over the vertical tower legs and are a third class lever with the bolt sucking the plate against the tower leg and the channel. Nothing is attached to any of the crossbars. Four points of attachment. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:08 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: those clamps are hooks? I like that if thats what it is, dual bolt clamps on 25g always end up on a crossbar On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Time will tell. It will be a similar margin as all of our other products. We won't gouge you too bad. At this exact moment I don't have all my costs, just estimates. Once I have all my costs, I will let the dealers know the MSRP and the price to them. From that point on it is between you and them. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: I was hoping rough was closer to sand and not pyramid sized boulders, but... kudos, well done :) Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 04/20/2015 01:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: $100-$500 *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2015 3:37 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Something New and Exciting! rough price range? :) Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 04/20/2015 01:34 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Working on that. Dealers should have their pricing in the next day or two. It will be affordable. *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2015 3:24 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Something New and Exciting! I like it. How much? Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 04/20/2015 01:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Really bigish dish on a really smallish tower Actually a decent way to put a 2-3’ dish on a Rohn without causing torque on an individual leg. This torques the whole tower. Much more stable. *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2015 3:11 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Something New and Exciting! Really big tower or really small dish? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 2015-04-20 17:09 GMT-04:00 ch...@wbmfg.com: -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] reset bind 9.8.2
Ive totally hosed a bind configuration through webmin. I was dicking around trying to migrate over to the new server copying config files for the zones, now all i get are errors I dont care to troubleshoot. I just want to factory default bind and start over, Ill manually create all the records, there arent alot and I didnt build the originals or configure them anyway, so what little i do know about configuring one I dont know if the last guy googled differently than me. Some day I will have to learn how to actually use Linux stuff but is there something along the lines of a factory default? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] FCC Makes 150 Megahertz of Spectrum Available for Mobile Broadband
thats a huge question here, if the AP is grandfathered, what about new subscribers? On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That's usually my reaction whenever anyone makes an FCC related post. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, April 23, 2015 9:54:20 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Makes 150 Megahertz of Spectrum Available forMobile Broadband Are you not in WISPA??? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know what they all did here yet? http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-makes-150-megahertz-spectrum-available-mobile-broadband -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] FCC Makes 150 Megahertz of Spectrum Available for Mobile Broadband
why not just answer the guys question On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: This was discussed a bunch last week I think? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote: Are you not in WISPA??? Not a lot of answers on members list yet. Anyone know what they all did here yet? http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-makes-150-megahertz-spectrum-available-mobile-broadband -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] reset bind 9.8.2
I have another image of this VM, I just wanted to keep using it out of spite. We have two, Im replacing the primary right now, then Ill build a new slave to replace the other. These were built originally using prebuilt appliance VMs that wont update anymore. I ended up just deleting all the zones. Then I added the zones manually as slaves and once they synced I copied each ones config file and deleted the slave zone (it errors when you try to convert a slave back to master) created the zone again as a master and pasted the config in. Just copying the configs directly had errors, that was part of the problem, doing the slave transfer must put it syntactically correct. Is there a way in mass to reset all the ttls to the system default, alot of these over the years had been changed for migrations to short times, etc, would prefer to not have to go in and manually change all that back. On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:12 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Heres an example $ scp -P 2264 foobar.txt your_usern...@remotehost.edu:/some/remote/directory -P is for the port being used when using from CLI be sure your in the directory where foobar.txt is Foobar.txt being the good file to send over to damaged box On 04/20/2015 09:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Ive totally hosed a bind configuration through webmin. I was dicking around trying to migrate over to the new server copying config files for the zones, now all i get are errors I dont care to troubleshoot. I just want to factory default bind and start over, Ill manually create all the records, there arent alot and I didnt build the originals or configure them anyway, so what little i do know about configuring one I dont know if the last guy googled differently than me. Some day I will have to learn how to actually use Linux stuff but is there something along the lines of a factory default? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] And this is how its done
When I put one up at my house we made one out of 1' water pipe with a T at the top woth 2 pulleys and ubolts on the bottom On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote: I think we have that exact same gin pole.Do you always run/rig it that high? It seems like I have had better luck keeping the gin pole about 7' over the last section and lifting the next section at about 2/3 height, but I have not stacked anywhere near as much tower. Mark On 4/24/15 9:38 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Voila ..last section about to be installed. Jaime Solorza -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site
I would definitely get photos, with the serials visible if you can before taking any action, if they dont own the tower, the landlord might be a good direction to go, no different than having a meth lab in a rental, landlords dont like nonsense On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: Don't worry about what is actually up there. Just ask your coordinator to engineer a link, and give him/her what your preferences are. If there are legitimate links there, the coordinator should find them. if they're not legitimate links, that will come out in the wash. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/21/2015 5:27 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: Hey guys, We've been looking at a new site for the last 12 months now and finally got to climb it last week to do the survey. 9 months ago from the ground, we could see two SAF licensed links up there but upon searching the FCC database, could not identify any licensed links on this site. I figured maybe they were in process and don't show up right away. Anyway, fast forward to today and we climbed and saw the links are 18GHz links and have the company's sticker on there we thought they belonged to. We checked the FCC database and found all their other licensed links and confirmed they're accurate and used their exact spelling and FRN to search all the licensed links and none of them correspond to their two SAF radio on this site that have been installed and running for 9 months now. So to sum up, their other licensed links are registered and correct but the two links on this site do not show up anywhere. What would be the best course of action to see if there's something wrong here? This WISP has not been friendly to us in the past and I just want to make sure their links don't interfere with ours if they're illegally operating in licensed bands. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site
lol guys on ebay On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:16 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Who spends 10k+ and doesn't get a license ? Come on guys. Stop wasting your time on this subject. Lol On Apr 21, 2015 10:06 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: I would definitely get photos, with the serials visible if you can before taking any action, if they dont own the tower, the landlord might be a good direction to go, no different than having a meth lab in a rental, landlords dont like nonsense On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: Don't worry about what is actually up there. Just ask your coordinator to engineer a link, and give him/her what your preferences are. If there are legitimate links there, the coordinator should find them. if they're not legitimate links, that will come out in the wash. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/21/2015 5:27 PM, Darin Steffl wrote: Hey guys, We've been looking at a new site for the last 12 months now and finally got to climb it last week to do the survey. 9 months ago from the ground, we could see two SAF licensed links up there but upon searching the FCC database, could not identify any licensed links on this site. I figured maybe they were in process and don't show up right away. Anyway, fast forward to today and we climbed and saw the links are 18GHz links and have the company's sticker on there we thought they belonged to. We checked the FCC database and found all their other licensed links and confirmed they're accurate and used their exact spelling and FRN to search all the licensed links and none of them correspond to their two SAF radio on this site that have been installed and running for 9 months now. So to sum up, their other licensed links are registered and correct but the two links on this site do not show up anywhere. What would be the best course of action to see if there's something wrong here? This WISP has not been friendly to us in the past and I just want to make sure their links don't interfere with ours if they're illegally operating in licensed bands. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site
our licensed link ended up registered to the wrong FRN. We go through our partner company to order product (something to do with sales tax and inventory) we went through the vendor to do the licensing. Since the actual customer of the vendor was our partner company, it ended up registered to them (a risk when you play three card monte with your purchases). maybe its registered under another company name, it costs close to a grand to move that registration so they may have just left it On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, don't invite The Man into your life if you can avoid it. If you need an 18Ghz path, file away, follow the rules, and if you see interference when you set it up then use your coordinator to start the hammer process. If there is noise it will be *real* obvious right after you get it dialed in as the link will fall on its face. Odds are the coordinator will get it figured out before you get that far though. On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Anytime you get the FCC involved, you will get the FCC involved – in your life too. *From:* Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:29 AM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site I'd try contacting them before I did anything else, it's a lot more likely that they just screwed up the licensing (or completely forgot to file it) than that they're intentionally running illegally. If it turns out that they did just throw the links up and not bother to license them, then it might teach them a good lesson to get the FCC involved... On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: +1 Don’t try to cause trouble at the FCC. You will regret it. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:54 PM *To:* af af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site I'd guess that it might be one they just forgot to submit the license for after a PCN. I'd just give them a holler and let them know that you couldn't find it in the FCC license database and was wondering if it had been coordinated recently. -forrest On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com wrote: Hey guys, We've been looking at a new site for the last 12 months now and finally got to climb it last week to do the survey. 9 months ago from the ground, we could see two SAF licensed links up there but upon searching the FCC database, could not identify any licensed links on this site. I figured maybe they were in process and don't show up right away. Anyway, fast forward to today and we climbed and saw the links are 18GHz links and have the company's sticker on there we thought they belonged to. We checked the FCC database and found all their other licensed links and confirmed they're accurate and used their exact spelling and FRN to search all the licensed links and none of them correspond to their two SAF radio on this site that have been installed and running for 9 months now. So to sum up, their other licensed links are registered and correct but the two links on this site do not show up anywhere. What would be the best course of action to see if there's something wrong here? This WISP has not been friendly to us in the past and I just want to make sure their links don't interfere with ours if they're illegally operating in licensed bands. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi -- *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian http://facebook.com/packetflux http://twitter.com/@packetflux -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24 - cut them up??
I have both chucks and the APC I attached the DIN clips to. I prefer the WB, but cant justify the 4x cost. I REAY wish chuck would make a single/double slot residential version so we dont have to maintain two separate sets of SS, If he put a grounding grommet on the existing ones to fasten them into the SS housings- sweet On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:47 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I'd rather just give Chuck the money for his effort instead of wasting my time trying to do it myself cheaper. We also just got a couple of the WB modified PRM4 chassis's from WAV if anyone is looking for some, maybe they still have some. On 4/24/2015 12:22 PM, TJ Trout wrote: Although I must say chucks metal din clip is amazing On Apr 24, 2015 10:21 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote: Din clips are $1 On Apr 24, 2015 10:18 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: PRM4's are ~$15, and the MSRP for that is $70. So, I'm guessing they are ~$50 from a distributor? On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=39 On Friday, April 24, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote: PRM4's are hard to find these days. Anybody have a secret source? On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: No, but I have used multiple PRM4’s at a site. *From:* Gino Villarini *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2015 9:44 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24 - cut them up?? No, but why… they are not that expensive Gino A. Villarini President From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Date: Friday, April 24, 2015 at 10:40 AM To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24 - cut them up?? Anybody cut these in half (or thirds) for when you need more than 4 and a lot less than 24 ports? Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell www.pdmnet.com pa...@pdmnet.net -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] MT config mirror script
If I have a production router on the network, and a virtual router in the lab, is there a script to keep the production configuration mirrored onto the lab router? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHZ and Cambium 450
hopefully WISPA will do the industry a favor and get clear instructions and FAQ together, primarily dealing with the grandfathered gear, what can and cannot be done, etc. On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Check your WISPA mail. They've made the announcements and initial analysis. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://midwest-ix.com/ -- *From: *David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, April 20, 2015 7:07:12 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHZ and Cambium 450 I havent been updated to know if the fcc has opened up the lower 3.5 side yet. On 4/18/2015 7:42 AM, Matt wrote: Has anyone heard how the Cambium 450 gear will work with the new 3.5Ghz FCC rules and additional spectrum? Will he still have 20Mhz channels and ABAB capability? How will this all work? -- -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] WTS Working/tested Ubiquiti NB5G-25 field pulls.
these are M I assume? On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: I’m definitely interested. 10 or 20, just got to crunch some numbers. *From:* Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2015 1:26 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] WTS Working/tested Ubiquiti NB5G-25 field pulls. I have 40 NB5G-25 5Ghz Ubiquiti 25db Nanobridges available. These are working pulls from our network that and I will provide a 90-day warranty on the units. As working pulls, some of the dishes may have slight corrosion or sun bleaching. We will test and default all units before shipping. $50 per unit.. 10 units minimum order. *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/ Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions
Super dependent on your back end systems, who has access to what and to what degree, at what point is it clearly defined that it needs escalation On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: It’s usually quite specific to your business and it’s objectives. Start with what promises you have made and wish to keep to your customers. Then vision calling into your company or emailing at 12 noon vs 12 midnight and how that should be handled. Step by step you can build the process this way. Along the way, how fast do you want to commit to answering the initial problem and how fast do want to commit to resolving the issue. This should help you get started…. Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 6:31 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions I'm being asked for the following and I'm hoping to put something more sophisticated than just, E-mail me. Ideas? I'm assuming I will actually have to develop some procedures, but I don't really know where to start. # Quoting process / contact-escalation list # Ordering process / contact-escalation list # NOC process (including tickets and maintenance windows) / contact-escalation list - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.
I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands. I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in the long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol. -Ty On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/ On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg -Ty On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Imgur! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold... -Ty On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No picture Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft difference in elevation. I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about. -Ty -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
802.11a, runs token ring and uses coax. Its their retro model On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: Is it 802.11n or 802.11ac? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:51 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.! New ePMP form factor. Connectorized. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/29/2015 10:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org p...@paulstewart.org *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:16:10 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.! “You are not authorized to access this page.” *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:13 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.! https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.! Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small dipoles, so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit. -- Forwarded message -- From: FCCID.NET i...@fccid.net Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.! To: cstann...@gmail.com Cc: A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.! It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS - Digital Transmission System). Full details on this application and possible product images can be found at http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141 If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :) Cheers, FCCID.NET -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.
I never said the band belonged to us. Its a fiscal responsibility thing. They have spectrum set aside for them, so when they need the data its there. But they go cheap because of the upfront cost, but pay more in the long run in support costs. On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: there you go..a business opportunity Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: Oh don't get me wrong at all Jaime, I don't have any problem with them using the band. I just pray they use it responsibly which, according to what I can see on the installation of these units, is not likely. Good news is I have a meeting with a Captain soon about a water tower we are building out and I intend to find out who to talk to about those radios. Might be able to offer some services in the name of making sure they play nice. -Ty On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: These bands are not exclusive to WISPs. The police can use whatever they want or can afford like the rest of us. Always astounds me how much many WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands. Damn they opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you maybe you are not doing it right. I doubt many of you have the noise border towns like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about non Wisps using these bands. If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900 recently on mtn and it didn't work. We installed a small POP to service the area and moved on. Jaime Solorza On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands. I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in the long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol. -Ty On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/ On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg -Ty On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Imgur! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold... -Ty On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No picture Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft difference in elevation. I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about. -Ty -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..
interesting. I wonder if this could impact video quality and buffering in an odd way, could explain a customer issue we have had On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Did you update the signatures? That sounds awfully generic. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 26, 2015 11:47 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote: You have got to be kidding me? CDN traffic being discarded 50%? What exactly would this be? The Procera box picked this traffic up as HTTP Download so it wasn't streaming. Only other thing I can think of is this customer has an XBOX maybe it was downloading an update? with 50% packet loss no wonder they called and complained, said they couldn't do anything Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: Sorry, I missed that .. :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 9:50:17 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. I know. I was being sarcastic. It doesn't seem fair that they do TCP congestion control in a way that doubles the traffic and we end up discarding 50% anyway, but it still fills up our pipes. Just sayin'. On 4/26/2015 8:37 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: I see that the net neutrality is going to be the next boogieman under the bed for WISP's from now on... Please, please, please, correct your understanding on Net-Neutrality... It allows for one to traffic shape any and all kinds of traffic, as long as :- a) You declare your practice on your website. b) You DONT DO IT specific to A SPECIFIC Network.. i.e. all VOIP, or all Video, or ALL Streaming.. (applying a throttle on video to netflix while allowing Hulu would be considered a violation, but applying throttle to all types of video content is NOT !) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com geo...@cbcast.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:12:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. So you'd be purposely slowing down or blocking legitimate traffic from an edge provider to the customer? Oh no, net neutrality violation! So when everyone starts with the 4k streaming and we're selling the customer 20Mbps, then we have to take on 40Mbps because of this!? On 4/26/2015 5:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I could justify declaring such traffic an attack and blocking the source as malicious. *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:30 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working.. Yep, I see this all the time and Ken is exactly right. The Canopy QoS works exactly as designed, the AP is definitely not delivering more than the sustained rate, but is instead discarding the extra 50%. I've tested this situation thoroughly. Stick a MT simple queue in at the upstream router and the 2X rate traffic stops hitting the AP's ethernet interface, but it's still coming in at double the sustained rate farther upstream. There's no way around it except throwing bandwidth at it. This is CDN traffic. And when the customer thinks they can install one of those internet download managers to speed up their connection. The only thing it does is screw with TCP acks or window sizes or something which just puts more traffic on your transit just to be discarded at the congestion point (SM, queue, Procera, whatever). Gotta love it. You'd think with 70% of the internets being streaming video they'd think hmm.. maybe we can cut down on the peering congestion by NOT doing this crap. But no. On 4/26/2015 11:01 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Sorry to answer a question with a question, but are you measuring at the SM, or at some upstream router? The reason I ask, is I have seen some CDN traffic that does not seem to follow traditional TCP congestion control. It will send at twice the rate limit, causing 50% packet loss to its own traffic and everything else to that same subscriber. Evidently some TCP geniuses have decided to use latency rather than packet loss as the indicator of congestion, and that the objective is goodput not throughput. Works for last mile technologies like T1 and DSL with big buffers at the
Re: [AFMUG] In concert...Chicago
I always thought Jay would look mor Duck Dynastyish On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Nice Jaime Solorza On Apr 26, 2015 11:48 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: alone i had front row :) - Original Message - *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 9:54 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] In concert...Chicago cool..are they alone or with EWF Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:48 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Tonight in Huntsville alThey r in intermission Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] In concert...Chicago Date: Sun, Apr 26, 2015 9:30 PM where was this? Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 6:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: The band says hi ! Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties
I love these bands, we did a city job on light poles over a highway and needed to put the surge suppressors somewhare, we ended up getting a srteet sign blank and banded it to the pole (this is what holds the signs to poles), mounted all the SS to the blank, it looked like a pretty butterfly On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: AT$T has visited the site we share a lot more often than I have. ;-) Well, once I exclude fixing stuff they've messed up. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- *From: *Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:48:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties Sure it will. Even the highest quality stuff. Had a site back in my WISP days that had LMR-400 running to a licensed radio head going 50ft up a tower attached every 5ft using 3m tape along the tower leg. A good snow storm with 100MPH winds came along and ripped the cable off the tower one day… I think 6 months after installation (so you can’t blame UV exposure). Went back and used hose clamps (after a helicopter ride later and two weeks of an area of our network limping along on a backup backhaul path) and never had issues again. Learned that lesson once after losing a lot of customers and feeling a lot of frustration (the site was on a 14,000 ft mountain and wind/snow conditions made it inaccessible during the winter basically… so it took two weeks for a narrow window to get up there). Will electrical tape or zip ties fail in most WISP applications for the life of the cable or installation of the equipment, probably not (heck I used zip ties on the cable for the SAF Integra radio on the roof of our office). But SCADA (and even the carriers) operate in a “do it right the first time by a well-worn and time tested book and never visit the site again”. It is a CAPEX/OPEX question really… and customers like Jaime is working with here can’t afford to take the hit on OPEX since it way outpaces the cost of the upfront CAPEX to overbuild the site. That site might take hours to get to, and the downtime cost could be in the hundreds of thousands of dollars. Why risk it on electrical tape vs. band-it (cost difference is maybe an additional hour of Jaime’s time and $20 in supplies?). The greatest gift being on the manufacturing side has given me is the opportunity to see hundreds of networks and thousands of different ways of doing things. Some are wrong, many are different shades of right. Some amaze me at the gratuitous overkill (here is looking at you Ricochet). As Lewis said in another thread recently, there is a point where spending more on the grounding system than the equipment it is protecting doesn’t make sense for an incremental improvement. Food for thought :-D *** Daniel White - Managing Director SAF North America LLC Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com Skype: danieldwhite Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84 *** *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties Black tape won't fail in your lifetime On Apr 26, 2015 11:32 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Zip ties will do the same freaking thing if you cut them with diagonal cutters. *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:49 AM *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties Yes that was blood.. I took my gloves off to take pictures and grabbed tower leg to adjust and got a two inch cut on right thumb. Still healing. Jaime Solorza -- [image: Avast logo] http://www.avast.com/ This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency
If he can order, order a toshiba tecra, theyre workhorses. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't think they carry anything one would consider business class. It appeared to be all consumer models. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, April 27, 2015 11:52:55 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency BestBuy ? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 12:40 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency I have a friend in Miami, leftover from the MUM. Where's a place he could buy a new laptop. Something along the lines of a Thinkpad or Latitude. Something business class. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency
sometimes an emergency can wait 24 hours. If its an emergency, like right now, just need to get by, go rent a 300 dollar laptop from best buy or walmart and return it tommorrow On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Emergency != order =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: If he can order, order a toshiba tecra, theyre workhorses. On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't think they carry anything one would consider business class. It appeared to be all consumer models. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Monday, April 27, 2015 11:52:55 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency BestBuy ? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 12:40 PM *To:* Animal Farm *Subject:* [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency I have a friend in Miami, leftover from the MUM. Where's a place he could buy a new laptop. Something along the lines of a Thinkpad or Latitude. Something business class. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] FW: What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth?
offer to provide him a replacement radio, not cash On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:53 AM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Tell him to go after the guy that left there to take up space all those years it wasnt in use. This is why we have an agreement or contract signed before anything or any work happens on our towers. On 5/3/2015 10:56 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: No.� We didn�t even check though.� � This guys is too uninformed to have any idea what the equipment is worth but when I said they were worth $1000, that�s all he heard.� He didn�t hear the part where I said 10 years ago and he isn�t listening to reason. � Rory � *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen *Sent:* Sunday, May 3, 2015 8:18 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth? � got any lightning damaged units or panels? hmm, On 5/3/2015 7:57 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: I took one off a tower and threw it away along with the very large 900MHz sector antenna.� It was disconnected and the company that put it up there is out of business.� However, the tower manager thinks I should reimburse him for it.� �� � *Rory Conaway � Triad Wireless � CEO* *4226 S. 37th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040* *602-426-0542 602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net* *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/* *�* *�There is only one way in this world to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.� - Aristotle* � � -- -- -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] FW: What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth?
definitely sounds like a good reason to look into breaking your contract and go elsewhere On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: I did but he isn’t being reasonable. This guy wanted to file theft charges against us for stealing his property off the tower. We do have a contract. We just have to add a clause that says we can take stuff off that’s older than my dog, not plugged in, has damaged cables, and the company has long since gone to the big corporation in the sky. At this point though, we are going over his head. I’m thinking if he is this psychotic with us, his board might be getting tired of him. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy /sarcasm *Sent:* Monday, May 4, 2015 7:29 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FW: What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth? offer to provide him a replacement radio, not cash On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:53 AM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Tell him to go after the guy that left there to take up space all those years it wasnt in use. This is why we have an agreement or contract signed before anything or any work happens on our towers. On 5/3/2015 10:56 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: No.� We didn�t even check though.� � This guys is too uninformed to have any idea what the equipment is worth but when I said they were worth $1000, that�s all he heard.� He didn�t hear the part where I said 10 years ago and he isn�t listening to reason. � Rory � *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen *Sent:* Sunday, May 3, 2015 8:18 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth? � got any lightning damaged units or panels? hmm, On 5/3/2015 7:57 PM, Rory Conaway wrote: I took one off a tower and threw it away along with the very large 900MHz sector antenna.� It was disconnected and the company that put it up there is out of business.� However, the tower manager thinks I should reimburse him for it.� �� � *Rory Conaway � Triad Wireless � CEO* *4226 S. 37th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040* *602-426-0542 602-426-0542* *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net* *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/* *�* *�There is only one way in this world to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.� - Aristotle* � � -- -- -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website
that is a nice looking coverage map On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Graham McIntire gra...@vntx.net wrote: Ty, What did you use to generate the service coverage area with Google maps? Graham On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: After hiring a new guy for tech support that turns out to be quite savvy at web-design, we turned him loose on our crappy website. We have been live with the new one for about a week and I am very pleased with it. Please check it out and let me know if you see anything of concern. www.zeecon.com -Ty -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!
Their paid software is as much of a disaster to deal with. They obfuscate their obfuscation using multiple levels of dual factor obfuscation On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com wrote: Damn them and their free software. On 4/28/2015 12:32 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: +1 yup.. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:40 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!! Microsoft. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to begin with? -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: You're very welcome. Just remember to type redist after your search and you'll save your sanity. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got it downloading now. Thanks Josh. -Ty On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just put redistributable behind your search https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some resources! F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express? I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't. -Ty -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Noooo! Simon is Leaving!
theyre in wisconsin, their no compete has the value of a rat turd in a court room probably I hear that simon is becoming a DJ at a radio station, kbillys super sounds of the seventies On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: So maybe we need to start a rumor that JAB bought Bertram. *From:* Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com *Sent:* Monday, May 04, 2015 8:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving! I always heard Bertram has a ridiculously broad non-compete - to the point where it might be unenforceable depending on who you ask? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On May 4, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I asked. I think he even considered it for at least 1 second. He didn't actually say no. Just gave a strategic reply. I'm taking it as he is still considering. On May 4, 2015 8:27 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: LOL :) Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 05/04/2015 05:23 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: He's coming to work for us. Maybe but probably not. Almost. On May 4, 2015 7:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I am pretty sure Jacob is not a programmer ... :( Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving! Date: Mon, May 4, 2015 3:43 PM Apparently today is Simon's last day at Powercode. I don't need to know the why's and all that gossip but I do think we need to give him a good send off and say thanks for taking such good care of his customers. He's been a true professional in our industry and he had advanced Powercode in leaps and bounds beyond anything else out there. Any sort of new feature or idea we had he would implement it if it were possible. He's going to be a huge loss to our industry! Its going to be a massive job for Jacob to fill his shoes even though Jacob is also a great guy but wow this is devastating news to us.. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Noooo! Simon is Leaving!
Banjo He's going to cbb On May 5, 2015 3:32 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Yes...and much more. Feel free to contact me offlist Keefe. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com wrote: does wispmon do billing? On 5/5/2015 10:09 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I have WISPMon and haven't seen anything elsewhere to incite me to change. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 10:05:46 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving! What would you consider the best option? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 6:54 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving! I didn't consider them the best option in the first place. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 8:50:21 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving! I just sent them an email to evaluate them and another product for a new company. So, given all the postings, are the still considered the best option? Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 6:45 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving! This is sad news! I only went with Powercode knowing that Simon was on the team! Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I have seen it and I have paid to have it evaluated by an attorney. Two words from your post come to mind “ridiculously broad” and “unenforceable”. *From:* Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com *Sent:* Monday, May 04, 2015 7:39 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving! I always heard Bertram has a ridiculously broad non-compete - to the point where it might be unenforceable depending on who you ask? ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On May 4, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: I asked. I think he even considered it for at least 1 second. He didn't actually say no. Just gave a strategic reply. I'm taking it as he is still considering. On May 4, 2015 8:27 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: LOL :) Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com On 05/04/2015 05:23 PM, Cameron Crum wrote: He's coming to work for us. Maybe but probably not. Almost. On May 4, 2015 7:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: I am pretty sure Jacob is not a programmer ... :( Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving! Date: Mon, May 4, 2015 3:43 PM Apparently today is Simon's last day at Powercode. I don't need to know the why's and all that gossip but I do think we need to give him a good send off and say thanks for taking such good care of his customers. He's been a true professional in our industry and he had advanced Powercode in leaps and bounds beyond anything else out there. Any sort of new feature or idea we had he would implement it if it were possible. He's going to be a huge loss to our industry! Its going to be a massive job for Jacob to fill his shoes even though Jacob is also a great guy but wow this is devastating news to us..
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
i guess im just a crybaby, turned out the orientals blew a fuse and didnt know how to reset the breaker. our outage was no power, the cable company still shows 137 down modems though. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: ROFL *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:31 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Please review and then talk cable :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso I love this video :) Anytime the word cable or even if I have a customer switch to cable this is what I pull up to watch at the end of the day :) On 5/6/2015 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: im down for alot of things i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one of the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network that 137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a single person calling or powercycling On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Steve, it reminds me of that Star Trek movie where V’ger insists the coded message be delivered in person, so it can join with the Creator. I hope you like bald chicks in shorty bathrobes. *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they say theres no outage On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do a remote power cycle on that modem? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Do it right, do it well or don't do it at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only thing we make any money there on is the hosted email. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No cable. Only paying for fiber. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes. You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be providing it yourself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
fuck me. I used oriental specifically because i thought asian was the non PC term. take these PC shitbuckets and shove the world up their asses On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: Yeah, I think that's just made up, though. Something to make us feel bad about. All kinds of places still have Oriental in their name, the Asians I know still call people Oriental. I don't think it's the same as terms for other races. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:09:11 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot I’m sure you meant to say “Asians”. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oriental *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot i guess im just a crybaby, turned out the orientals blew a fuse and didnt know how to reset the breaker. our outage was no power, the cable company still shows 137 down modems though. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: ROFL *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:31 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Please review and then talk cable :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso I love this video :) Anytime the word cable or even if I have a customer switch to cable this is what I pull up to watch at the end of the day :) On 5/6/2015 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: im down for alot of things i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one of the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network that 137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a single person calling or powercycling On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Steve, it reminds me of that Star Trek movie where V’ger insists the coded message be delivered in person, so it can join with the Creator. I hope you like bald chicks in shorty bathrobes. *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they say theres no outage On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do a remote power cycle on that modem? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Do it right, do it well or don't do it at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only thing we make any money there on is the hosted email. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No cable. Only paying for fiber. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
we had a tunnel up at one point for that, but this last issue where we switched to the air router, we dropped that since we have the server there. Neither of which matters when the modem is offline. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just do a tunnel for the management traffic (or everything if you want) from the Fortigate to your network so the BMU can get to it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: lol this is strictly internet, layer 2. We had had a BMU there but when we went to V10 we pulled it and put in a Fortigate. Then because of the way they handle static IP space it quit working, we got tired of dealing with it and stuck an air router in until the site sells. We have no direct monitoring on the customers other than a server that sits over there that calls home, we take over a session to troubleshoot any customer issue On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: In some cases, yes, but in most cases no. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:48:40 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Just because there’s fiber doesn’t mean it’s available to you. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:21 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Where at? There's lots of fiber all over the state. There's still a ton not on that map. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only thing we make any money there on is the hosted email. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No cable. Only paying for fiber. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes. You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be providing it yourself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
lol this is strictly internet, layer 2. We had had a BMU there but when we went to V10 we pulled it and put in a Fortigate. Then because of the way they handle static IP space it quit working, we got tired of dealing with it and stuck an air router in until the site sells. We have no direct monitoring on the customers other than a server that sits over there that calls home, we take over a session to troubleshoot any customer issue On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: In some cases, yes, but in most cases no. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:48:40 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Just because there’s fiber doesn’t mean it’s available to you. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:21 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Where at? There's lots of fiber all over the state. There's still a ton not on that map. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only thing we make any money there on is the hosted email. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No cable. Only paying for fiber. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes. You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be providing it yourself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] please reboot
we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes. You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be providing it yourself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only thing we make any money there on is the hosted email. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No cable. Only paying for fiber. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes. You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be providing it yourself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] PTP650 and the 5.1 band
iirc new firmware is 2 on 5.1 and 5.4 and 7 on 5.2 BUT this is the integrated firmware with 40 selected, not the connectorized firmware, connectorized may be less restrictive On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: We have a PTP650 operating in 5.1 GHz and it's on FW 01-21. It appears to be capping itself at 30 dBm EIRP. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/6/2015 3:34 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote: If I install 01-40 firmware can I select and use the 5.1 band in a PTP650? � If yes, what is the max radio power approved for the PTP650 in 5.1? � thanks -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
Its in a building we own we are trying to sell. The current tenants dont speak english, last time we tried to have them do anything, it turned out very poorly. If they ever close on the building, it will become a non issue. The point is when there are 137/137 down devices, I doubt nobody has power-cycled. Its going to be a wasted 100 mile round trip, other than I get paid to cruse around for a couple hours. The prices on the other two options are just because of the lack of infrastructure on those providers parts, same reason ot would cost any of these customers an arm and a leg for us to bring any real bandwidth to them, build out costs arent justified to do it and offer a cheap connection in an area we arent interested in growing. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:45 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: call your power company and report a power outage lol - Original Message - *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 6:22 PM *Subject:* [AFMUG] please reboot we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
im down for alot of things i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one of the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network that 137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a single person calling or powercycling On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Steve, it reminds me of that Star Trek movie where V’ger insists the coded message be delivered in person, so it can join with the Creator. I hope you like bald chicks in shorty bathrobes. *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they say theres no outage On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do a remote power cycle on that modem? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Do it right, do it well or don't do it at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only thing we make any money there on is the hosted email. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No cable. Only paying for fiber. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes. You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be providing it yourself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they say theres no outage On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do a remote power cycle on that modem? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:22 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Do it right, do it well or don't do it at all? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only thing we make any money there on is the hosted email. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No cable. Only paying for fiber. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems. On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yes. You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be providing it yourself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz integrated cases
the integrated SMs are the same, just swap the card from the connectorized AP On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net wrote: Looking for some 900 MHz cases integrated for use with connectorized APs that I currently have. Get me off list Sent from my iPhone -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff
my sister cleaned out her attic, also some older camera On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Wow, amazing old shit. They definitely don't make stuff like that anymore. On 5/11/2015 7:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: On May 11, 2015 7:02 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: On May 11, 2015 7:01 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: On May 11, 2015 6:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Ano of this stuff have any nostalgic worth to you old timers -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] OT Diesel
I think any boat i will ever have will be able to float in that tank On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com wrote: I just wish I had that much boat!!! ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On May 11, 2015, at 9:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: I hope it stays cheaper! Just put $750 worth in my boat for the second time in three weeks! On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com wrote: It's been trending cheaper than gas here for the last few months although this is more of a spread than normal. I'll take it. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] please reboot
I take offense to that On May 8, 2015 7:41 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: Well said! - Original Message - *From:* Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 7:32 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Only the people on this list... bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/8/2015 5:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: If you eliminate the stupid and the easily offended, how many people are left? *From:* Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 7:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot I find stupid people and those easily offended offensive. - Original Message - *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com *To:* af af@afmug.com *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 5:49 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Personally, I'm starting to get a bit offended with the whole having to tiptoe around trying to find the politically correct non-offensive word to describe someone or something. I understand there are some terms for groups of people which are just plain offensive. But this whole this term that used to be ok is now offensive so you shouldn't use it thing is getting old. Especially when the same group of people have been referred to two or three different ways since I can remember. And just when you figure out what you *think* is accurate, someone decides that's offensive too. It's almost like you need a twitter feed to keep up. And honestly, I think that no matter which supposedly politically correct term you used, someone would be offended by it. People just need to grow a thicker skin and get on with their lives. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I am occidental, they are oriental. Just a different way of saying from the west and east. *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:14 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Yeah, I think that's just made up, though. Something to make us feel bad about. All kinds of places still have Oriental in their name, the Asians I know still call people Oriental. I don't think it's the same as terms for other races. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:09:11 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot I’m sure you meant to say “Asians”. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oriental *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:00 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot i guess im just a crybaby, turned out the orientals blew a fuse and didnt know how to reset the breaker. our outage was no power, the cable company still shows 137 down modems though. On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: ROFL *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:31 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot Please review and then talk cable :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso I love this video :) Anytime the word cable or even if I have a customer switch to cable this is what I pull up to watch at the end of the day :) On 5/6/2015 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: im down for alot of things i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one of the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network that 137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a single person calling or powercycling On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Steve, it reminds me of that Star Trek movie where V’ger insists the coded message be delivered in person, so it can join with the Creator. I hope you like bald chicks in shorty bathrobes. *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:25 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they say theres no outage On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do a remote power cycle on that modem? *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06
Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] Installer training materials
I just sat through the UBNT training with the installers, the RF side of the training is very lacking, I would much preferred they focused more on the RF theory. If you can locate one of the old alvarion training manuals, that is the best source I have ever found, the info is clearly delivered in human non rf engineer speak. The one I had disappeared, very disappointing On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Justin Wilson - MTIN li...@mtin.net wrote: It’s still relevant, get Jack Unger’s Book http://www.amazon.com/Deploying-License-Free-Wireless-Wide-Area-Networks/dp/1587057905 Very good read. Justin Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics http://www.midwest-ix.com Peering – Transit – Internet Exchange On May 12, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com wrote: Hey guys, My techs are asking for more training material so they can understand RF and our Ubiquiti gear a little better. Minus the UBNT wiki, are there other online materials you recommend similar to the Airmax training class without having to send my guys somewhere? It amazes me they're asking for learning material to understand it all better. Thanks -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi ___ WISP mailing list w...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wisp -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff
Those we believe are rotor controllers On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: I think Chuck meant these brown things... I'm also curious what they are... On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:18 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: the brown stands? One is a TV, there is a replacement tube we think is for it, it looks like the tube has never been fired up, thats whats in the box with the CBS logo, 17 hp4. The other is the flip out radio, and a turntable. If I had time and space this stuff would be a hobby goldmine for me and the kids. I have no time and even less space. We have a HAM guy who is a family friend taking this to some radio show hes going to, hopefuly somebody has use for it, I hate to see it end up in a landfill. Im swiping that motorola logo though if it goes that route, thats just too cool to let go On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: In the second picture, there are pair of interesting brown things. Any idea what those are? *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff On May 11, 2015 6:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Ano of this stuff have any nostalgic worth to you old timers -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable
Bbdge and finding the squirrels nest and pissing in it resolved our squirrel issues On May 11, 2015 6:47 PM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: Yeah, thats the ticket !! On 5/11/2015 8:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Set up a roadside squirrel stand like the squirrel lady in the movie “Rat Race”. “You should have bought a squirrel.” *From:* David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:48 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable make a large funnel with a deep enclosure for the funnel to fit on top of so the base of the funnel is inside the drum/enclosure. place some peanut butter in the base of the drum and coat the inside of the funnel with teflon oh and yes be sure the base of the funnel has a large enough hole big enough to allow them to get in and it must have a neck on the funnel. Give them a plank to walk over the funnel. This way the little suckers will fall into the drum and if its deep enough cant get out. Or you could get some of the larger rodent traps at farm supply that do the same thing accept they lay flat on the ground I dont like catching the big ones that are larger than the trap cuz they get a little angry. On 5/10/2015 11:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s now they won't be. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com mhoward...@gmail.com *To: *af mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little vermin would be so much more satisfying... On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit. I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't). I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with you, but I'm not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running cable. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense. I don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff. 2 cents -Sean On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them all than run conduit up the grain leg. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
Re: [AFMUG] Installer roof boots
Yeah, very disappointed On May 13, 2015 7:05 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I was expecting something else from a Cougar Paws web site. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange https://twitter.com/mdwestix -- *From: *Work timothy.pct...@gmail.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, May 13, 2015 6:03:17 AM *Subject: *[AFMUG] Installer roof boots Anyone using the cougar paw boots? I'm told they let you walk up a 12/12 can anyone put any truth to that? http://www.cougarpaws.com/en/2-shoes-boots — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox
[AFMUG] Mikrotik stable OS version
just got in an rb1100ahx2 What is the current most stable software version recomended on these? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!
If it was a sale, it was probably evil jab On May 16, 2015 8:34 AM, Trey Scarborough t...@3dsc.co wrote: Truly my personal guess about what is going on after all of the events lately with powercode is that someone bought them up. This would be something that I am sure would make any employee rethink there career options. Just by the way they seem to be leaving and very open about accepting new offers, but not certain what they are wanting to do going on. I have been in the position of buyout and mergers from large companies before. It usually means that key employees get large bonuses to stick around and support transitioning. I as well had to decide to stick around or leave and have done both. From all the anouncments and changes I would suspect that there is a very good chance this could end up going either good or bad. If it is a larger company with a great deal of resources they may take powercode and greatly improve the product or stick it on the shelf and let it rot. I would hope it would be for the better. On 05/15/2015 10:31 AM, WaveDirect wrote: Well I heard they were gearing up for bigger things. The reasons for them leaving were private and really don't matter as far as the product is concerned. They both were there for a while so maybe a change in life is good for them both. Powercode is in a pretty good state at the moment but I just hope they can hire someone SOON.. a ringer who'll give Powercode the same care and consideration that Simon and Jacob gave it. - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! The good thing about it is there wont be any safe major updates for a while so everybody can focus on their summer projects, but with these two gone, there is no way the company vision wont change. With simon there it had become a beautiful usercentric product. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:15 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: Yes the culling has begun... Not happy. - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:28:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! Say aint so? From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto: par...@cyberbroadband.net Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto: af@afmug.com Date: Friday, May 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! hmmm, not sure i like what i am hearing - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:51 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! Wow... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Powercode
They should hire me to interface the customers. I can get expectations lowered in no time On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com wrote: I'll say this again. Powercode needs to hire some people from VISP.net, specifically Dave Thomas and Veronica Perrin. They are some of the best people I've had the chance to speak with. While I'm going with Powercode for the product, the people at VISP are top notch! If Dave and Veronica went to work for Powercode, it would be a solid product and things would get done and customers would be happy. They're great at PR and Customer service, something Powercode is really struggling with at this time from my experience. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:28 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: Yeah gotta realize that Simon left a huge void. Jacob will try his best to fill it. Just need to remember most coders (that I know) don't have the best bedside manners and tend to like to dwell in basements cut off from social contact. They need to find a PR guy to fill that void and let Jacob focus on filling Simon's technical work. So give them some time I'm sure some people will pick up the slack. - Original Message - From: Andreas Wiatowski andr...@silowireless.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:41:45 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Powercode Anyone know what's going on with Powercode? I know Simon left...but we have a bunch of outstanding issues...and getting the attention of anyone is becoming a concern. One in particular is costing me money.. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 1-866-727-4138 x-600 Web: www.silowireless.comhttp://www.silowireless.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless Twitter: @silowireless -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] using airview in the latest crome
Im pretty sure thats googles stance on it, which is why theyre depreciating it. I know java is like everybodys golden dildo, but they really need to find a new fetish On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Java sucks. It continues to suck. STOP USING IT! How hard can it be to write your own HTML5 page to replicate the applet? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 14, 2015 9:37 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com wrote: ya its a pain *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Vince West *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] using airview in the latest crome I struggled with this for an hour. I didn't know it was anything to do with Chrome. It worked in IE much to my surprise. Another tech found it online. It was rather annoying for 10 minutes. On May 13, 2015 9:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Open Chrome and browse to chrome://flags/#enable-npapi 2. Click the Enable NPAPI setting. Then add the ip of the radio to java trusted sites -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Odd looking tower
I think its a jade helm listening post. get your tinfoil helmets, the jackboots are coming! On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Justin Wilson - MTIN li...@mtin.net wrote: We have a lot of similar looking towers in Indiana. Mainly around Indianapolis. The are DOT. Justin Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics http://www.midwest-ix.com Peering – Transit – Internet Exchange On May 13, 2015, at 3:05 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Could be DOT or EMA. On 5/13/2015 1:58 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote: Genoa, IL. I saw this along the road about a mile from one of our towers. Anyone know what it's for? Mail Attachment.jpegMail Attachment.jpeg -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Good looking billboard!
sweet! did you venture back out? On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Cool! Cha ching! ! Jaime Solorza On May 14, 2015 6:18 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Nice! On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com wrote: ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] Sales shout
I mentioned this guy once before. But Im dealing with him again on a couple projects, I suspect the boss may screw him out of free labor (get the sales guy to do the quote, then price shop his product offering). So Im hoping somebody here will pick up on him and send some business his way. I hate sales guys, I cant stand them, I dont like people in general, but sales guys are the worst. This guy is the only sales guy I answer the phone for. the follow up calls are friendly, he remembers me and offers up relevant products if theyre on his radar. If I tell him im climbing up some grain leg, he says ok and ends the call if I have time to talk he finds out what projects are going on and what offerings he has to meet the need. Ive never seen longer than a 48 hour turnaround on a quote. We have made a total of 1 purchase in the three years almost Ive been dealing with him, yet he treats us like we are his number 1 customer (I hope to god we arent :-) ) This is the guy, if your looking for some stuff, hit him up: jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] oklahoma guy
My railroad guy took a job in oklahoma, near oklahoma city. If anybody out in that area needs a project guy I can put you in contact. Hes a tower safety instructor for the railroad, he has built up a crew here in illinois for project work (fri-sun) and is working to build a crew out there. Hes no nonsense reliable, tower work, fiber work (hes built up a legitimate fiber toolset) general radioman. He went full businessman and got his insurance and the necessities to do jobs for guys on the side. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!
The good thing about it is there wont be any safe major updates for a while so everybody can focus on their summer projects, but with these two gone, there is no way the company vision wont change. With simon there it had become a beautiful usercentric product. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:15 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: Yes the culling has begun... Not happy. - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:28:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! Say aint so? From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto: par...@cyberbroadband.net Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto: af@afmug.com Date: Friday, May 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! hmmm, not sure i like what i am hearing - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:51 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! Wow... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 registration
Cheryl Black Program Analyst Federal Communications Commission Wireless Telecommunications Bureau Broadband Division Telephone: 717-338-2617 Email: cheryl.bl...@fcc.gov On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: What's her number? On 5/15/2015 11:22 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: call her On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: I have a bunch of pending 3.65ghz site registrations. What's the best way to find out what the hold up is? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 registration
call her On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: I have a bunch of pending 3.65ghz site registrations. What's the best way to find out what the hold up is? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 registration
my brain just fell out of my eye On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:41 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote: I wonder if it has to do with the new rule changes coming for 3.55-3.8 ? On 05/15/2015 10:28 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Thank you Steve. On 5/15/2015 11:23 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: Cheryl Black Program Analyst Federal Communications Commission Wireless Telecommunications Bureau Broadband Division Telephone: 717-338-2617 Email: cheryl.bl...@fcc.gov On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: What's her number? On 5/15/2015 11:22 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: call her On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: I have a bunch of pending 3.65ghz site registrations. What's the best way to find out what the hold up is? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!
disconcerting On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: Whatchu talkin bout willis? Josh Luthman wrote: Wow... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] google domains?
any issues with using google domains to register and manage a domain name? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Powercode
Who the hell is Alexander? On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: well, while we're discussing powercode, the biggest / only issue we have right now is google calendar intregration with our installers. last i read on the forum, it was an outdated api issue. is anyone working with powercode on this currently? thanks :) - Original Message - *From:* Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net *To:* memb...@wispa.org *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 11:51 AM *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Powercode Uh.WTH. On May 15, 2015 11:43 AM, Adrian Folsom afol...@ptera.com wrote: So now Jacob is gone too, and personally I am now becoming worried. For those who did not receive the emails, here they are: On May 4, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote: Adrian, I wanted to let you know that today is my last day at Powercode. In my absence, please use Jacob as a point of contact - you can reach him at ja...@powercode.com. I greatly appreciate the opportunity I've had to work with you in my time at Powercode, and I wish you all the best in the future. I am confident that I leave you in good hands with the team at Powercode, and that they will continue to provide you with the same exceptional service and quality product as I hope you agree you've received over the past few years. I wish you all the best and I hope our paths cross again in the future! On May 15, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Jacob Kailing ja...@powercode.com wrote: Hello, I am contacting you to inform you that today will be my last day at Powercode. It has been a pleasure getting to know you during our time working together and I wish you continued success in the future. Zach Curry will be your new point of contact in my absence. Please contact supp...@powercode.com or z...@powercode.com for support or sales inquiries. It was a pleasure getting to know you and building a great relationship. I wish you the best! Adrian Folsom, MBA Director of Sales Marketing *Ptera Inc.* d. 509.464.6941 c. 509.294.0027 ptera.com facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Kameron Blomquist kame...@sightlinewireless.com wrote: or here... first i am hearing about it... Interesting. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:16 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote: No email here Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: Casey|WISPA airl...@airlinkrb.com To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA Members] Powercode Date: Thu, May 14, 2015 9:12 AM I never saw an email. Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Me either, got the news here! I think PC is lacking on PR. They should have someone dealing with this “situation” , No one is here on answering questions … From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com Reply-To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:47 AM To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa..org memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Powercode I never received an email either and assuming Daniel didn't.. I get all emails. Not in spam either. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: It was and Simon had even admitted about I but I know they were working on it. On May 14, 2015 8:20 AM, Tekwav Lists tekwavli...@gmail.com wrote: And not this Powercode customer. In my opinion, I actually think their customer service levels are starting to slip. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote: Not this powercode customer. On May 14, 2015 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: He sent a message announcing it to all Powercode customers. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 14, 2015 3:08 AM, Daniel Moore daniel.mo...@unggoy.net wrote: Does anyone know the truth behind Simon and Powercode? I have seen emails from AF mailing lists that Simon is no longer with them. I am not a member of AF so do not get those emails, can anyone confirm/deny? If this is true, I wonder how this might affect them… as I understand he is (or was) the driving force behind it. -Daniel ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members ___ Members mailing list memb...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/members
[AFMUG] visual ospf mapping
Does the dude have any method to indicate OSPF paths visually? We are far from implentation, so its no priority, Im just curious how best to monitor such things. I havent messed with the dud much before, always had problems. But installed it the other day and had it scan the office network. how long has it been mapping physical ports? I thought that was like a buttered bee. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!
UBNT would, take out the primary Air CRM competitor, put all the remaining coders on one of their boats, in the 2 years it takes that boat to get anywhere ther ewill be no updates or support. It will be madness on the ship, first with some cannibalism then... well its not pretty On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:23 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: If its digis it'll mean they'll let it rot. They don't use it. Although it is a separate company from Bertram I don't see how anyone would buy it to let it die. - Original Message - From: Trey Scarborough t...@3dsc.co To: af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:34:07 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! Truly my personal guess about what is going on after all of the events lately with powercode is that someone bought them up. This would be something that I am sure would make any employee rethink there career options. Just by the way they seem to be leaving and very open about accepting new offers, but not certain what they are wanting to do going on. I have been in the position of buyout and mergers from large companies before. It usually means that key employees get large bonuses to stick around and support transitioning. I as well had to decide to stick around or leave and have done both. From all the anouncments and changes I would suspect that there is a very good chance this could end up going either good or bad. If it is a larger company with a great deal of resources they may take powercode and greatly improve the product or stick it on the shelf and let it rot. I would hope it would be for the better. On 05/15/2015 10:31 AM, WaveDirect wrote: Well I heard they were gearing up for bigger things. The reasons for them leaving were private and really don't matter as far as the product is concerned. They both were there for a while so maybe a change in life is good for them both. Powercode is in a pretty good state at the moment but I just hope they can hire someone SOON.. a ringer who'll give Powercode the same care and consideration that Simon and Jacob gave it. - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! The good thing about it is there wont be any safe major updates for a while so everybody can focus on their summer projects, but with these two gone, there is no way the company vision wont change. With simon there it had become a beautiful usercentric product. On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:15 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: Yes the culling has begun... Not happy. - Original Message - From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:28:10 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! Say aint so? From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto: par...@cyberbroadband.net Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto: af@afmug.com Date: Friday, May 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! hmmm, not sure i like what i am hearing - Original Message - From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:51 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Jacob too?! Wow... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] powercode
not cool bro On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:27 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote: Yeah also deleting posts as well that were active. - Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net To: memb...@wispa.org, af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:55:14 PM Subject: [AFMUG] powercode so i was trolling through the forum just now, it's one of a few places i like to hit several times a week to see whats been posted, done, etc. i've noticed king alex (as i've named him) seems to be a new guy and has also been trolling through the forum - even old posts - and answering a ton of questions. so far, he seems to be really knowledgeable in sql. ...and knowledgeable in the database (since he's answering requests - both new and old - for how to get custom data out of the db) anyone know how long alex has worked there? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Broken website wbmfg.com
i did it On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: Yeah it's been that way for a while :( On Sunday, May 17, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Someone broke the Products menu =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] how much to worry about SSDP vulnerable customers
I keep meaning to address all the shadowserver reports, we get like 5 different ones each day I think now. I wonder if you could write some sort of email parser to pull in the reports and take the data from the attachments to automatically generate rules On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com wrote: If you don’t block it, or they don’t fix it, they’ll more than likely participate in a DDOS. Plus, it could impact their service and they think it’s your fault :) I’ve seen a few of those types of DDOS this year. -c On May 18, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: I finally started getting ShadowServer reports which are nice. One thing I notice is that about 5% of customers still have routers with SSDP (the discovery protocol for UPnP) exposed on the WAN side. This despite the fact that I scanned the network earlier this year and sent notices to every single customer with this vulnerability. It tells me very few did anything about it. Most of these are DLink DIR-615 routers, and except for the very last version of that router, there is no FW update, their only solution is to disable UPnP in the menus. Apparently that's too difficult for customers. My question: is this serious enough to worry about? Should I just wait for those DLink routers (or their owners) to die? I guess another solution would be to block ports 1900/2049/5783 but these might be legitimately in use as ephemeral ports and I don't like blocking high numbered ports. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] poercode loopback IP
Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find dummy interface anybody come across this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP
can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is anything going to break On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x. On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find dummy interface anybody come across this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP
NX216v2 Im slowly onlining OSPF. I have one management subnet thats actually flowing with OSPF. im a baby steps guy when its a pre drunken passed out in bushes weekend week On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: Go for it. If you're going to 4.x, I would recommend 4.17, which was the last version in the 4.x series. But I have found that the 5.26 is a bit more robust in the OSPF department. What hardware is this on BTW? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/18/2015 12:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is anything going to break On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x. On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find dummy interface anybody come across this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP
4.0.2 is the latest non beta, any problems with that? On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:55 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: NX216v2 Im slowly onlining OSPF. I have one management subnet thats actually flowing with OSPF. im a baby steps guy when its a pre drunken passed out in bushes weekend week On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: Go for it. If you're going to 4.x, I would recommend 4.17, which was the last version in the 4.x series. But I have found that the 5.26 is a bit more robust in the OSPF department. What hardware is this on BTW? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/18/2015 12:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is anything going to break On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x. On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find dummy interface anybody come across this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP
i wont tell On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Btw, all this advice provided as is, I'm not an employee of Powercode etc etc On May 18, 2015 3:00 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: I'd just do 4.0.4 honestly, not much changed in it and it just fixes a couple off minor bugs. On May 18, 2015 2:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: 4.0.2 is the latest non beta, any problems with that? On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:55 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: NX216v2 Im slowly onlining OSPF. I have one management subnet thats actually flowing with OSPF. im a baby steps guy when its a pre drunken passed out in bushes weekend week On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: Go for it. If you're going to 4.x, I would recommend 4.17, which was the last version in the 4.x series. But I have found that the 5.26 is a bit more robust in the OSPF department. What hardware is this on BTW? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/18/2015 12:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is anything going to break On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x. On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find dummy interface anybody come across this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP
jesus henry crumbs! this OSPF business is like magic. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: Oh you're right (read the subject line dummy) Sorry. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/18/2015 12:59 PM, Simon Westlake wrote: I think/assumed he was asking about a Powercode BMU rather than Mtik. :) On May 18, 2015 2:51 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: Go for it. If you're going to 4.x, I would recommend 4.17, which was the last version in the 4.x series. But I have found that the 5.26 is a bit more robust in the OSPF department. What hardware is this on BTW? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 5/18/2015 12:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is anything going to break On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote: Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x. On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find dummy interface anybody come across this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stable OS version
Do these things have a limit to the number of secondary IPs you can put on an interface? I cant find it documented On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Stefan Englhardt s...@genias.net wrote: No problems with newer 6.x Version. We’ve 6.15 and 6.25 running on them. Seems 6.x tree matures. But it is MT. You never know ;-)). *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy /sarcasm *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2015 16:51 *An:* af@afmug.com *Betreff:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik stable OS version just got in an rb1100ahx2 What is the current most stable software version recomended on these? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] using airview in the latest crome
1. Open Chrome and browse to chrome://flags/#enable-npapi 2. Click the Enable NPAPI setting. Then add the ip of the radio to java trusted sites -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Broken website wbmfg.com
Boy, that could have gone dark really quick, some acronyms should not be used around degenerates like me On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: For an extra $5 per mount, I will give you a COC stating that the mount has been tested and has been found to conform to safe and legal operation limits at the specific frequency and bandwith of operation. Be sure to include the power levels and modulation formats upon request. *From:* Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2015 2:43 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Broken website wbmfg.com I refuse to use a mount not certified for my intended frequency. On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Fixed it. I had given three different tower mounts a frequency of 10.7-11.7 GHz. Database queries got confused... *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us *Sent:* Sunday, May 17, 2015 7:35 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Broken website wbmfg.com Yeah it's been that way for a while :( On Sunday, May 17, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Someone broke the Products menu =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff
the brown stands? One is a TV, there is a replacement tube we think is for it, it looks like the tube has never been fired up, thats whats in the box with the CBS logo, 17 hp4. The other is the flip out radio, and a turntable. If I had time and space this stuff would be a hobby goldmine for me and the kids. I have no time and even less space. We have a HAM guy who is a family friend taking this to some radio show hes going to, hopefuly somebody has use for it, I hate to see it end up in a landfill. Im swiping that motorola logo though if it goes that route, thats just too cool to let go On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: In the second picture, there are pair of interesting brown things. Any idea what those are? *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:01 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff On May 11, 2015 6:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Ano of this stuff have any nostalgic worth to you old timers -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Sales shout
“With the exception of Jerrod, I dont like people in general” On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Funny, I distill this whole post to the following: “I dont like people in general” *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:49 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Sales shout I mentioned this guy once before. But Im dealing with him again on a couple projects, I suspect the boss may screw him out of free labor (get the sales guy to do the quote, then price shop his product offering). So Im hoping somebody here will pick up on him and send some business his way. I hate sales guys, I cant stand them, I dont like people in general, but sales guys are the worst. This guy is the only sales guy I answer the phone for. the follow up calls are friendly, he remembers me and offers up relevant products if theyre on his radar. If I tell him im climbing up some grain leg, he says ok and ends the call if I have time to talk he finds out what projects are going on and what offerings he has to meet the need. Ive never seen longer than a 48 hour turnaround on a quote. We have made a total of 1 purchase in the three years almost Ive been dealing with him, yet he treats us like we are his number 1 customer (I hope to god we arent :-) ) This is the guy, if your looking for some stuff, hit him up: jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Cambium question
thats concerning, a dragonwave reseller not using their own product, and not knowing how to calculate path with vendor tools On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If everything is perfect, I would expect they'll do pretty close to 100 meg... Cambium claims 220 aggregate, and I would think they should do full modulation with 30db dishes and LOS, but I'm far too lazy to try to actually calculate it at the moment. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: I was going to do that after my beer time. I have link planner in office desktop. .might need updates ..Skukra Jaime Solorza On May 14, 2015 6:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: Hi Jaime, No need to be an Oracle. In the support section of Cambium site they provide a link planner... Use the tool, and take the guess work out of the equation :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net -- *From: *Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:39:37 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium question Not my company. ..they are Dragonwave resellers ..saw one of their techs at gas station. Told me he was installing gear manana and asked what I would expect at that distance. Told him I would consult the oracle and get back at him So Oracle away.. Jaime Solorza On May 14, 2015 5:32 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: Gonna have to use a 40MHz channel. Good luck with that. Why not licensed? On 5/14/2015 6:30 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Local WISP purchased a pair of Cambium epmp and 30db dishes for a 15 mile link from bank building to water tank clean LOS. What speeds can he expect from a 100 x 100 fiber feed at bank out to tank? What is receive threshold of these radios? Thank you Cambi dudes... Jaime Solorza -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] DHCP option 212
So there are routers requesting DHCP option 212, 6rd IPv6 Rapid Deployment. Powercode doesnt send this out in its response, so I think this is what causes our DHCP logs to fill up (the client just keeps requesting over and over and over) I have read in the past generic NULL type responses that can be given to stop various requests from continuing repetitively Is anyone aware of what would need to be in the response to basically tell it to shut up, but not impact functionality? this is a packet capture showing the 212 option being requested but not delivered: 01:39:38.939174 00:0d:b9:07:c6:7c 00:90:0b:2f:89:af, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 342: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: UDP (17), length: 328) 10.0.50.185.68 BLANKED.67: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from c8:d7:19:78:70:e4, length 300, xid 0xc3746f0a, secs 8724, Flags [ none ] Client-IP 10.0.50.185 Client-Ethernet-Address c8:d7:19:78:70:e4 Vendor-rfc1048 Extensions Magic Cookie 0x63825363 DHCP-Message Option 53, length 1: Request Hostname Option 12, length 15: * Parameter-Request Option 55, length 5: Subnet-Mask, Default-Gateway, Domain-Name, Domain-Name-Server *Option 212* Client-ID Option 61, length 7: ether c8:d7:19:78:70:e4 01:39:38.950040 00:90:0b:2f:89:af 00:0d:b9:07:c6:7c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 342: (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 37727, offset 0, flags [DF], proto: UDP (17), length: 328) 10.6.0.29.67 10.0.50.185.68: BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length 300, xid 0xc3746f0a, secs 8724, Flags [ none ] Client-IP 10.0.50.185 Your-IP 10.0.50.185 Client-Ethernet-Address c8:d7:19:78:70:e4 Vendor-rfc1048 Extensions Magic Cookie 0x63825363 DHCP-Message Option 53, length 1: ACK Server-ID Option 54, length 4: BLANKED Lease-Time Option 51, length 4: 86400 Subnet-Mask Option 1, length 4: 255.255.255.0 Default-Gateway Option 3, length 4: 10.0.50.1 Domain-Name-Server Option 6, length 8: 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220 -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent
didnt microsoft buy nokia? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com wrote: Look for the dark horse . The deep pockets source Jaime Solorza On Apr 15, 2015 7:31 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: http://www.telecomramblings.com/2015/04/the-smoke-clears-and-nokia-to-buy-alcatel-lucent/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers
pppoe has been discussed quite often as a solution for limited IP space. Could someone give a breakdown of the required components from the edge of the network to the customer and the required topology? My understanding, which is probably wrong, is a client on the network connects, the device gets an IP, normally DHCP that can communicate all the way back to the pppoe server (what exactly is this) The credentials are provided and a pppoe session is established, all traffic flows through the pppoe tunnel and exits at the edge of the network the tunnel is essentially a vpn tunnel? there are overheads that need to be accounted for? Where is the public IP actually at? is it assigned as essentially a /32 at the customer end of the tunnel? How does the client device know where the pppoe server is, is this provided in the DHCP response? I know my understanding of this is probably totally way off, but I would love to know more, accurately On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: Which is why we played with it. In the end, it seemed that the amount of support hassles with pppoe wasn't worth the hassle. But, this was a while ago and pppoe has grown up a lot, so my opinion is probably not valid anymore. On Apr 15, 2015 5:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: There are reasons to have PPPoE other than IP address assignment. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com *To: *af af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:02:50 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers (WISP HAT ON) We have a subnet (or a couple of subnets, as sites have grown) at each tower, and an public IP statically assigned to each customer. The radio gets a managment address out of 172.[16-31].x.x which corresponds to the public IP address. No DHCP anywhere, no PPPoE. But again, we have an /18 and a /19 assigned to us from back before NAT really existed and DHCP implementations from the early '90's kinda sucked. We've played with PPPoE and DHCP, but kinda have been spoiled by the simplicity and reliability of a statically numbered network. -forrest On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: For those of you currently providing public/routed ips to customers? What is your topology like and delivery method? Looking at doing a few things, have considered a few options, and wanted to look out there and see what other people are doing. Thanks -- Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTS www.spitwspots.com -- *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian http://facebook.com/packetflux http://twitter.com/@packetflux -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming
i thought they were going for a retro radio feel On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote: Ha, I had the same thought ;) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: It's Krispy Kreme! Gino A. Villarini @gvillarini On Apr 15, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Just want to point something out real quick... A lot of people on this and other lists talk about JAB like they are some kind of massive, rolling behemoth with a gazillion subscribers and trillions in the bank. The kind of place that has it's own militarized security forces, Ferrari's for interns, crispy creme every morning, and hands out Sam Adams during lunch. Okay, maybe not that extreme, but anyway... To put things in perspective, if you were to talk to anybody who works at an actually large ISP or Carrier for that matter, JAB is tiny. JAB is literally the size, speaking purely by number of customers, that many ISPs have in a few mile radius. I understand that they cover a fairly large area, and that some manufacturers in our industry will even bend the knee to get their business... And maybe rightfully so... But yeah, 250,000-350,000 sub's to many ISPs is a tiny drop in the bucket. On April 15, 2015 7:06:15 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.risebroadband.net/ T6 was on there too I think. Still no sign of Digis. I'm wondering if they have decided to keep some of the brands. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of their companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they don't need no stinkin' coverage maps! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you can't even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of those either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do this? Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web and people outside of your community may come across it. I highly encourage all of you to describe where you provide service, and not just a county name, because I'm sure every county is unique, right? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: http://www.riseiscoming.com/ Hide your heart, girl. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid
same deal here, it was explained to me the cheap cert we have and you probably do to is only for 443, would need a different type of cert, since those two components are only for staff use, its not relevant to us, On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: OK, will do On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: No problems at all. Give me a ring in the am if you need help. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 9:10 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: I've spoken with GoDaddy support (zero help) and have changed everything that I can think of. Still tinkering...I am at a loss as to why this isn't working. Is it safe to assume that yours works fine on Android Josh? Did you use the recommended gd_bundle-g2-g1.crt for your intermediate? Edited in the ssl.conf under SSLCertificateChainFile ? On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: Josh knows my issue. I am using Powercode. It fails on 444 and 447 and on the customer portal (no port) On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I've never heard of anything using 447, but I'm not a PowerCode user. When did we start assuming Jeremy's putting the cert into PowerCode? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:42:28 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions for SSL Josh Reynolds CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Mobile is a different port? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid Did you put it in the 447 statement? Mobile is a different port. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert installed. All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as normal. However, Android will not accept the cert as valid. I have read that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the chain through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA. Has anyone else dealt with this and found a resolution? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming
haha, thats what I do when I get tired of talking to the chatty customer about how we compare to satellite and what not. Once they hear Terrestrial Microwave They shut up, I think they envision ET in the radar range On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: They should have thrown in Terrestrial Microwave That worked really well for us in terms of explaining the difference between satellite and a WISP. Might as well told them the specific frequency they were on and the how the s/n affects their CCQ%. Rory *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:32 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming You’ve got to admire their ability to string 5 adjectives together though. Only 1 of which people understand. It’s - large - digital - fixed - broadband - wireless OK, all Americans understand “large”. The others, not so much, although that won’t stop them from having opinions. *From:* Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com *Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:24 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming Does calling things digital still impress anybody? My hands have 10 digitsSo I think I could call them digital. If I use them to hold a hammer, then I have a digital hammer. I would be so awesome at marketing. On 4/16/2015 8:49 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: Interesting – 175,000 subscribers according to their site and “largest digital fixed broadband wireless in the nation”… *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett *Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:12 AM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming They're a WISP consolidator that has purchased hundreds of WISPs over the years. http://www.jabbroadband.com/coverage-area/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:23:45 AM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming Maybe it’s because I live in Canada … but who is JAB? Never heard of them so curious…. 250-350k subs is “mid sized” in the ISP world from my viewpoint/opinion *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:31 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming They are definitely small timejust look at that logo and wood background. They are working hard to appear like they are the small local provider. Just the same folks in our community Rise Broadband shares the same values as you. We’re right around the corner, up the street and down the road a ways. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote: Just want to point something out real quick... A lot of people on this and other lists talk about JAB like they are some kind of massive, rolling behemoth with a gazillion subscribers and trillions in the bank. The kind of place that has it's own militarized security forces, Ferrari's for interns, crispy creme every morning, and hands out Sam Adams during lunch. Okay, maybe not that extreme, but anyway... To put things in perspective, if you were to talk to anybody who works at an actually large ISP or Carrier for that matter, JAB is tiny. JAB is literally the size, speaking purely by number of customers, that many ISPs have in a few mile radius. I understand that they cover a fairly large area, and that some manufacturers in our industry will even bend the knee to get their business... And maybe rightfully so... But yeah, 250,000-350,000 sub's to many ISPs is a tiny drop in the bucket. On April 15, 2015 7:06:15 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.risebroadband.net/ T6 was on there too I think. Still no sign of Digis. I'm wondering if they have decided to keep some of the brands. On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote: This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of their companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they don't need no stinkin' coverage maps! On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote: Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you can't even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of those either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do this? Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web and people outside of your community may come across it. I highly encourage all of
[AFMUG] ptp650 parabolic only licenses
what is this, when we did our last key generation i dont recall this being one of the selections -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 parabolic only licenses
hahaha, when you have installation tones turned on, these play that hello mutha helo fatha greetings from camp song... brilliant On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: what is this, when we did our last key generation i dont recall this being one of the selections -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 parabolic only licenses
That cracks me up, I guess there is at least one engineer at cambium who is not a total douchebag On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjiWS__Mp0 ? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:01 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: hahaha, when you have installation tones turned on, these play that hello mutha helo fatha greetings from camp song... brilliant On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: what is this, when we did our last key generation i dont recall this being one of the selections -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] windmill towers
We do, just like anything else if it's unstable don't climb it On Apr 12, 2015 10:48 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote: I've mounted CPE on two, not quite that tall though. Maybe 35-40ft. They were angle iron with bolt steps. Fairly sturdy, steps slightly questionable but got the customer online. Climbed with harness like any other tower of course. On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: Has anyone mounted a dish on a customer's old windmill tower? I have always assumed there is no way to determine they are safe to climb (and that they probably aren't). This particular one is pretty tall and seems to have a ladder of sorts up one side.
[AFMUG] af24 pin info
I see in one of our af24 v 2.2 radios DATA Pair 0 (Pins 1,2):24 dB SNR DATA Pair 1 (Pins 3,6):29 dB SNR DATA Pair 2 (Pins 4,5):27 dB SNR DATA Pair 3 (Pins 7,8):29 dB SNR All the res of our radios show 28/29. I am not seeing any issues on this one and am tempted to leave it alone, there is a mid point patch panel on about 200 foot of cable
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations
messing with this it looks like I can get it to a pretty restricted view. I just mainly want to not lose remote access to the device or have them doing something stupid like easily changing the mac, if they mess up anything else we just will load in a default configuration file. the guys who will poke around were going to poke around anyway, they usually have their own router On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: I think your issue will be the sledgehammer like permissions in the groups. They are pretty wide ranging. You can prohibit winbox, but for things like filter rules and just about anything they would require write privileges. Write is write without the ability to prevent someone from writing all kinds of things you would rather they not. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Can I use skins to give customers access in a limited capacity, create a user account called customer or whatever and a customer group that has limited access like no winbox, etc. Let them manage their wireless, internal subnets, port forwards, whatever? What I saw glancing at the metarouter thing seems like its a bigger deal than I wanted to get into, but if I could create a generic skin for the customer login to load in each one, that would be slick On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: How would you rate the boxes handling traffic and uptime in general? Just curious… Thanks, Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Steve…. Do you trust me? Mikrotik all the way, just DO IT! … routerboard.com has all the models. slicker than owl-snot on linoleum floor JOne of the best things we ever did for our network *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers Is there a sizing chart on these? Is the interface similar between the router models and the switch models? Are the mikrotik switches comparable to the HP procurve in reliability? It would be the bees knees to see out network more universal as far as management interfaces go, we have three purposes for routers: our upstream routers, which we have 2, will ultimately be running OSPF internally and BGP externally (current thought) 200mbps-1gbps projected need through the next couple of years. Our network/POP routers ranging from 1 customer at a POP to 150 A residential solution comparable to the UBNT AirRouters (1-25mbps rate plans) wifi capable. If the switches have similar interfaces, we would look toward replacing a combination of UBNT toughswitch POE, and a variety of HP procurves from 1810G to 2510G and their other POE models. I note alot of discussion regarding MT ethernet negotiation flakiness, how much of an impact does this present? Right now we have imagestream and fortigate on the network, and have zero issues with that. The decision to go toward mikrotik is primarily based on cost and community support availability within the industry. (this consideration has alot to do with a single point of administrative failure in only having one person, me, training to design, maintain, support, and grow the network, in the event i became absent from the picture) The winbox interface and feature availability within was also a primary consideration for support staff. I would like to her from people entrenched in MT who love/hate it, anybody who turned their back on it, and anybody who moved toward it. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834
i love southern folk, everything to them is itty bitty, like I got hit by this itty bitty semi truck one day On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: At least he was polite. I've had a few lately call after hours and weekends with attitudes. I keep a list. I'll give someone a few breaks, but if they're abusive on the phone they get exactly two strikes. - Original Message - *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:52 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834 lol :) - Original Message - *From:* Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:31 PM *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834 And you say I'm south! ___ Mangled by my iPhone. ___ Tyler Treat Corn Belt Technologies, Inc. tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com ___ On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote: I understood, Yes, my name is... Alabama. [understood most of the rest]. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL -- *From: *CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net *To: *af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org *Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:30:19 PM *Subject: *[AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834 You know, i don't know if i should feel sorry for this guy or not. I noticed on our facebook page he's left about 10 messages - including a hey guys, i fixed it myself i mean, this is the poster child for i can not live without my internet for .210394234 seconds -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] hello world
dont lie to us again On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net wrote: Okay never mind. *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:06 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello world Okay just a test. I can respond to email on the list but for some reason cant post new ones. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations
Can I use skins to give customers access in a limited capacity, create a user account called customer or whatever and a customer group that has limited access like no winbox, etc. Let them manage their wireless, internal subnets, port forwards, whatever? What I saw glancing at the metarouter thing seems like its a bigger deal than I wanted to get into, but if I could create a generic skin for the customer login to load in each one, that would be slick On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: How would you rate the boxes handling traffic and uptime in general? Just curious… Thanks, Paul *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:32 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations Steve…. Do you trust me? Mikrotik all the way, just DO IT! … routerboard.com has all the models. slicker than owl-snot on linoleum floor JOne of the best things we ever did for our network *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:27 PM *To:* af@afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the right fit for our network and budget. I dont fully understand the licensing tiers Is there a sizing chart on these? Is the interface similar between the router models and the switch models? Are the mikrotik switches comparable to the HP procurve in reliability? It would be the bees knees to see out network more universal as far as management interfaces go, we have three purposes for routers: our upstream routers, which we have 2, will ultimately be running OSPF internally and BGP externally (current thought) 200mbps-1gbps projected need through the next couple of years. Our network/POP routers ranging from 1 customer at a POP to 150 A residential solution comparable to the UBNT AirRouters (1-25mbps rate plans) wifi capable. If the switches have similar interfaces, we would look toward replacing a combination of UBNT toughswitch POE, and a variety of HP procurves from 1810G to 2510G and their other POE models. I note alot of discussion regarding MT ethernet negotiation flakiness, how much of an impact does this present? Right now we have imagestream and fortigate on the network, and have zero issues with that. The decision to go toward mikrotik is primarily based on cost and community support availability within the industry. (this consideration has alot to do with a single point of administrative failure in only having one person, me, training to design, maintain, support, and grow the network, in the event i became absent from the picture) The winbox interface and feature availability within was also a primary consideration for support staff. I would like to her from people entrenched in MT who love/hate it, anybody who turned their back on it, and anybody who moved toward it. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
Jive, fortivoice (they sell the trunks too) broadvox sold, there are a ton of inexpensive providers especially when compared to copper voice lines On Apr 6, 2015 1:33 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: You call up you local telephone company and ask for a sip trunk... -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP I expect there to be some cost, but these companies that want a fortune for a small amount of minutes are ridiculous. I'm okay with paying some amount for unlimited, but not a small amount per minute. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: If you want to place calls to/from the PSTN and not pay a dime, you're dreaming. -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 1:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] VoIP I've played a bit with asterisk in the past along with similar products. I'm not really all that familiar with VoIP solutions or configuration, but if like to be. I want to start playing around with something to really familiarize myself with it. The problem is that all I've seen is solutions where I'd have to pay for my SIP trunk or for some kind of service. Is it possible to get a fully functional VoIP solution using basic hardware for nothing? I can host my own SIP trunk I'm sure, but how do I get my phones to route to other phones and my number coming in to route to my phone system? Am I in a dream world, or is this actually possible? Thank you, Brett A Mansfield
[AFMUG] PTP650 AES Key serial numbers?
We were contracted to do some radio upgrades They wanted the radio serial numbers/mac addresses for some AES keys for ptp650 The entitlement certificate fromt he vendors dont have matching serial numbers to the radios. Im suspecting the serial numbers on the certs are the certificate serial and not the radio serial number. Itf I recall we take the access key to the support site and put in the key and the mac and it generates the actual license key. Up until that point the entitlement is tied to any piece of hardware. Is this correct, or do I need to go climb and look at stickers for serial numbers? On that same note, the free key to open all of 5ghz up, do I need to apply that before the AES key and the throughput upgrade keys? what happens if I put in the AES and throughput keys, then generate a full 5ghz key, will it reset the radios? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
[AFMUG] current state of ubnt snmp?
most of our ubnt crap sits on 5.5.10, of course the powercode real time monitors dont work, halk the existing graphs arent working trying to figure out from the ubnt forums where snmp stands is like screwing a piranha. pretty much everything thats not airfiber we have is M series. Is there a list of functional OIDs for 5.5.10? isnt 5.6 beta supposed to have some mibs? is there a stable enough beta? what year is this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] current state of ubnt snmp?
what release of 5.6? On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: The existing SNMP stack on 5.5.10 works as long as you *DON'T TOUCH* the OIDs that don't work. Touch any of the non-functional OIDs and the SNMP query will come back null. The OIDs that do work (and I haven't explored extensively) are: traffic uptime signal level data rate load average noise floor (but it's a lie) We also have 5.6 running on exactly one subscriber radio. It provides many more OIDs that all seem to work. It's been running fine for about 2 months with no apparent problems. Note that all the OIDs are different between 5.5.10 and 5.6. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 4/7/2015 2:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: most of our ubnt crap sits on 5.5.10, of course the powercode real time monitors dont work, halk the existing graphs arent working trying to figure out from the ubnt forums where snmp stands is like screwing a piranha. pretty much everything thats not airfiber we have is M series. Is there a list of functional OIDs for 5.5.10? isnt 5.6 beta supposed to have some mibs? is there a stable enough beta? what year is this? -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS
I like this observium guy On Apr 4, 2015 5:53 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote: Until I see evidence to the contrary (just did a svn up and no wisp gear has been removed...) I'm treating that entire exchange as the internet equivalent of some drunk (Smeg) walking up to you(Adam) in the bar and grabbing your arm and saying have your wife dance with me. You're like, that's her choice and she says no. Repeating as the night goes on. Eventually maybe you snap, say some unkind things because you want the drunk to get lost and he just isn't taking the hint. That wasn't the first IRC exchange between them and others. Adam's volatility is well known but in this case I believe he was sorely provoked. We've all experienced the client from hell. Thing is, maybe some of us are the client from hell. What happened in IRC after may help understand where he is coming from... [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:18:33] While I completely understand that you're the author and shit, and what you say goes. period... wasn't that a bit of an overreaction? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:18:56] BenA: you have no fucking idea [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:05] I don't, it's true. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:06] these people will not take no for an answer [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:07] they go on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:08] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:09] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:10] and on [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:20] Couldn't you just, like, look away from the screen? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:23] BUT MUH SUPPORT, MILLIONS OF USERS, PLZ [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:32] couldn't you? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:38] Ask him if he wants to pay. if he doesn't, ignore? [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:46] *oh, they all say they want to pay* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:49] Ah. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:10] *but when they realise it costs more than $5...* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:20:15] Right. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:31] the wireless industry seems to be rammed full of overly entitled douches [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:48] whot hink it's totally justified that we support evey bit of shitty kit they have [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:51] fucking wireless vendors [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:00] every new MODEL they release has to come with an entirely new set of mibs [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:04] it's ridiculous [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:21:11] You're a victim of your own success. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:23] and none of these people will ever listen when you tell them [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:32] adn they just keep coming back and coming back [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:35] *he's asked here a few times* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:40] *and we've had these conversations on the mailing list* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:44] *and god knows what else* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:02] and you'd think [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:03] when someone says [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:07] fuck off, it's not going to happen [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:13] you'd realise that was, well, that [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:22:53] I guess he really sees the advantages of Observium, and is keen for you to have further market penetration... over your express wishes (-: [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:06] no, he's keen to have his own pet hardware supported [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:23:12] That too. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:21] we already support 4 different families of cambium kit [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:28] but apparently that doesn't include the devices he has [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:44] and i'm sure if i checked, we'd only have like 2-3 users using cambium kit [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:24:52] You could spend a few dozen man months of eye-straining, back-breaking labour adding in some kind of horribly complex and fucked up extensible API for 3rd party MIBs, and then telling people they can add whatever the fuck support/devices they like, but there's no support for it. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:06] or not [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:25:14] Party-pooper. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:25:39] And people said you were a nice guy. [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:46] rarely [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:55] and even more rarely in here \o/ [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:26:49] *we have 3 cambium ptp400 devices and 5 cambium ptp800 devices* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:27:00] *in our entire userbase* [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500]