Re: [AFMUG] Shenanigans

2015-04-02 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
no, youre south, this is central

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:56 PM, Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
wrote:

  Central

  On Apr 2, 2015, at 9:54 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

   Do you know how I know you're from the south?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
  *From: *Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, April 2, 2015 9:51:00 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Shenanigans

 If you're going that route, 2 J arm feet and a 10' stick of emt will fix
 you right up.

 ___
 Mangled by my iPhone.
 ___

  Tyler Treat
 Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

  tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
 ___


 On Apr 2, 2015, at 6:55 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
 geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

  It wouldn't be so bad if there were two attachment points into the
 brick, 18-24 apart and it would hold up just fine.

 On 4/2/2015 6:48 PM, Glen Waldrop wrote:

 Wow.

 How?

 I'm guessing with that tall of a pole there are a lot of trees all around?




 - Original Message -
  *From:* Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 02, 2015 4:19 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Shenanigans

  Corn field wind.  Normal thunderstorms are 30-40 mph.

 On 4/2/2015 2:59 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Do you not have wind there?


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Brian Sullivan installe...@foxvalley.net
 wrote:

 Reminding operators to Q.C. their tech's work.
 Fortunately this has held up for nearly a year as-is.








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Re: [AFMUG] Something New and Exciting!

2015-04-20 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
oh man, i just notices the adjustable tilt. Im in love with this thing

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 5:39 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 Right now, they are plates with round stock at the ends.  They do hook
 over the vertical tower legs and are a third class lever with the bolt
 sucking the plate against the tower leg and the channel.  Nothing is
 attached to any of the crossbars.  Four points of attachment.

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:08 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 those clamps are hooks? I like that if thats what it is, dual bolt clamps
 on 25g always end up on a crossbar

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 Time will tell.  It will be a similar margin as all of our other
 products.  We won't gouge you too bad.  At this exact moment I don't have
 all my costs, just estimates.  Once I have all my costs, I will let the
 dealers know the MSRP and the price to them.  From that point on it is
 between you and them.

 On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

  I was hoping rough was closer to sand and not pyramid sized
 boulders, but... kudos, well done :)

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 04/20/2015 01:39 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  $100-$500

  *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2015 3:37 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Something New and Exciting!

  rough price range? :)

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 04/20/2015 01:34 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Working on that.  Dealers should have their pricing in the next day
 or two.  It will be affordable.


  *From:* Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2015 3:24 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Something New and Exciting!

  I like it. How much?

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 04/20/2015 01:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  Really bigish dish on a really smallish tower

 Actually a decent way to put a 2-3’ dish on a Rohn without causing
 torque on an individual leg.  This torques the whole tower.  Much more
 stable.

  *From:* Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2015 3:11 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Something New and Exciting!

  Really big tower or really small dish?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 2015-04-20 17:09 GMT-04:00 ch...@wbmfg.com:









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 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


[AFMUG] reset bind 9.8.2

2015-04-20 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Ive totally hosed a bind configuration through webmin. I was dicking around
trying to migrate over to the new server copying config files for the
zones, now all i get are errors I dont care to troubleshoot.

I just want to factory default bind and start over, Ill manually create
all the records, there arent alot and I didnt build the originals or
configure them anyway, so what little i do know about configuring one I
dont know if the last guy googled differently than me.

Some day I will have to learn how to actually use Linux stuff

but is there something along the lines of a factory default?

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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] FCC Makes 150 Megahertz of Spectrum Available for Mobile Broadband

2015-04-23 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
thats a huge question here, if the AP is grandfathered, what about new
subscribers?


On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 That's usually my reaction whenever anyone makes an FCC related post.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

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 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, April 23, 2015 9:54:20 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC Makes 150 Megahertz of Spectrum Available
 forMobile Broadband

 Are you not in WISPA???


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Anyone know what they all did here yet?


 http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-makes-150-megahertz-spectrum-available-mobile-broadband






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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] FCC Makes 150 Megahertz of Spectrum Available for Mobile Broadband

2015-04-23 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
why not just answer the guys question

On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 This was discussed a  bunch last week I think?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Are you not in WISPA???

 Not a lot of answers on members list yet.

  Anyone know what they all did here yet?
 
 
 http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-makes-150-megahertz-spectrum-available-mobile-broadband





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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] reset bind 9.8.2

2015-04-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I have another image of this VM, I just wanted to keep using it out of
spite. We have two, Im replacing the primary right now, then Ill build a
new slave to replace the other. These were built originally using prebuilt
appliance VMs that wont update anymore. I ended up just deleting all the
zones.

Then I added the zones manually as slaves and once they synced I copied
each ones config file and deleted the slave zone (it errors when you try to
convert a slave back to master) created the zone again as a master and
pasted the config in.

Just copying the configs directly had errors, that was part of the problem,
doing the slave transfer must put it syntactically correct.

Is there a way in mass to reset all the ttls to the system default, alot of
these over the years had been changed for migrations to short times, etc,
would prefer to not have to go in and manually change all that back.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 9:12 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  Heres an example
   $ scp -P 2264 foobar.txt
 your_usern...@remotehost.edu:/some/remote/directory

 -P is for the port being used

 when using from CLI be sure your in the directory where foobar.txt is

 Foobar.txt being the good file to send over to damaged box



 On 04/20/2015 09:28 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 Ive totally hosed a bind configuration through webmin. I was dicking
 around trying to migrate over to the new server copying config files for
 the zones, now all i get are errors I dont care to troubleshoot.

  I just want to factory default bind and start over, Ill manually
 create all the records, there arent alot and I didnt build the originals or
 configure them anyway, so what little i do know about configuring one I
 dont know if the last guy googled differently than me.

  Some day I will have to learn how to actually use Linux stuff

  but is there something along the lines of a factory default?

  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] And this is how its done

2015-04-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
When I put one up at my house we made one out of 1' water pipe with a T at
the top woth 2 pulleys and ubolts on the bottom

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

 I think we have that exact same gin pole.Do you always run/rig it that
 high?   It seems like I have had better luck keeping the gin pole about 7'
 over the last section and lifting the next section at about 2/3 height, but
 I have not stacked anywhere near as much tower.

 Mark


 On 4/24/15 9:38 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


 Voila ..last section about to be installed.

 Jaime Solorza





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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I would definitely get photos, with the serials visible if you can before
taking any action, if they dont own the tower, the landlord might be a good
direction to go, no different than having a meth lab in a rental, landlords
dont like nonsense

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  Don't worry about what is actually up there. Just ask your coordinator to
 engineer a link, and give him/her what your preferences are. If there are
 legitimate links there, the coordinator should find them.

 if they're not legitimate links, that will come out in the wash.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 4/21/2015 5:27 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

 Hey guys,

  We've been looking at a new site for the last 12 months now and finally
 got to climb it last week to do the survey. 9 months ago from the ground,
 we could see two SAF licensed links up there but upon searching the FCC
 database, could not identify any licensed links on this site. I figured
 maybe they were in process and don't show up right away. Anyway, fast
 forward to today and we climbed and saw the links are 18GHz links and have
 the company's sticker on there we thought they belonged to. We checked the
 FCC database and found all their other licensed links and confirmed they're
 accurate and used their exact spelling and FRN to search all the licensed
 links and none of them correspond to their two SAF radio on this site that
 have been installed and running for 9 months now. So to sum up, their other
 licensed links are registered and correct but the two links on this site do
 not show up anywhere.

  What would be the best course of action to see if there's something
 wrong here? This WISP has not been friendly to us in the past and I just
 want to make sure their links don't interfere with ours if they're
 illegally operating in licensed bands. Thank you

  --
  Darin Steffl
 Minnesota WiFi
 www.mnwifi.com
 507-634-WiFi
  http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook
 http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi





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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-21 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
lol guys on ebay


On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 12:16 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 Who spends 10k+ and doesn't get a license ? Come on guys. Stop wasting
 your time on this subject. Lol
 On Apr 21, 2015 10:06 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would definitely get photos, with the serials visible if you can before
 taking any action, if they dont own the tower, the landlord might be a good
 direction to go, no different than having a meth lab in a rental, landlords
 dont like nonsense

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Don't worry about what is actually up there. Just ask your coordinator
 to engineer a link, and give him/her what your preferences are. If there
 are legitimate links there, the coordinator should find them.

 if they're not legitimate links, that will come out in the wash.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 4/21/2015 5:27 PM, Darin Steffl wrote:

 Hey guys,

  We've been looking at a new site for the last 12 months now and
 finally got to climb it last week to do the survey. 9 months ago from the
 ground, we could see two SAF licensed links up there but upon searching the
 FCC database, could not identify any licensed links on this site. I figured
 maybe they were in process and don't show up right away. Anyway, fast
 forward to today and we climbed and saw the links are 18GHz links and have
 the company's sticker on there we thought they belonged to. We checked the
 FCC database and found all their other licensed links and confirmed they're
 accurate and used their exact spelling and FRN to search all the licensed
 links and none of them correspond to their two SAF radio on this site that
 have been installed and running for 9 months now. So to sum up, their other
 licensed links are registered and correct but the two links on this site do
 not show up anywhere.

  What would be the best course of action to see if there's something
 wrong here? This WISP has not been friendly to us in the past and I just
 want to make sure their links don't interfere with ours if they're
 illegally operating in licensed bands. Thank you

  --
  Darin Steffl
 Minnesota WiFi
 www.mnwifi.com
 507-634-WiFi
  http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook
 http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi





 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

2015-04-22 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
our licensed link ended up registered to the wrong FRN. We go through our
partner company to order product (something to do with sales tax and
inventory) we went through the vendor to do the licensing. Since the actual
customer of the vendor was our partner company, it ended up registered to
them (a risk when you play three card monte with your purchases).  maybe
its registered under another company name, it costs close to a grand to
move that registration so they may have just left it

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Caleb Knauer cknauer.li...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Yep, don't invite The Man into your life if you can avoid it.  If you need
 an 18Ghz path, file away, follow the rules, and if you see interference
 when you set it up then use your coordinator to start the hammer process.
 If there is noise it will be *real* obvious right after you get it dialed
 in as the link will fall on its face.  Odds are the coordinator will get it
 figured out before you get that far though.

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   Anytime you get the FCC involved, you will get the FCC involved – in
 your life too.

  *From:* Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2015 8:29 AM
 *To:* af af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

  I'd try contacting them before I did anything else, it's a lot more
 likely that they just screwed up the licensing (or completely forgot to
 file it) than that they're intentionally running illegally. If it turns out
 that they did just throw the links up and not bother to license them, then
 it might teach them a good lesson to get the FCC involved...

 On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   +1
 Don’t try to cause trouble at the FCC.  You will regret it.

  *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2015 6:54 PM
 *To:* af af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Illegal 18ghz links on a new site

   I'd guess that it might be one they just forgot to submit the license
 for after a PCN.

 I'd just give them a holler and let them know that you couldn't find it
 in the FCC license database and was wondering if it had been coordinated
 recently.

 -forrest

 On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
 wrote:

 Hey guys,

 We've been looking at a new site for the last 12 months now and finally
 got to climb it last week to do the survey. 9 months ago from the ground,
 we could see two SAF licensed links up there but upon searching the FCC
 database, could not identify any licensed links on this site. I figured
 maybe they were in process and don't show up right away. Anyway, fast
 forward to today and we climbed and saw the links are 18GHz links and have
 the company's sticker on there we thought they belonged to. We checked the
 FCC database and found all their other licensed links and confirmed they're
 accurate and used their exact spelling and FRN to search all the licensed
 links and none of them correspond to their two SAF radio on this site that
 have been installed and running for 9 months now. So to sum up, their other
 licensed links are registered and correct but the two links on this site do
 not show up anywhere.

 What would be the best course of action to see if there's something
 wrong here? This WISP has not been friendly to us in the past and I just
 want to make sure their links don't interfere with ours if they're
 illegally operating in licensed bands. Thank you

 --
  Darin Steffl
 Minnesota WiFi
 www.mnwifi.com
 507-634-WiFi
  http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi Like us on Facebook
 http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi




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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24 - cut them up??

2015-04-25 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I have both chucks and the APC I attached the DIN clips to. I prefer the
WB, but cant justify the 4x cost.

I REAY wish chuck would make a single/double slot residential version
so we dont have to maintain two separate sets of SS, If he put a grounding
grommet on the existing ones to fasten them into the SS housings- sweet

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 10:47 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

  I'd rather just give Chuck the money for his effort instead of wasting my
 time trying to do it myself cheaper. We also just got a couple of the WB
 modified PRM4 chassis's from WAV if anyone is looking for some, maybe they
 still have some.

 On 4/24/2015 12:22 PM, TJ Trout wrote:

 Although I must say chucks metal din clip is amazing
 On Apr 24, 2015 10:21 AM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 Din clips are $1
 On Apr 24, 2015 10:18 AM, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote:

 PRM4's are ~$15, and the MSRP for that is $70.  So, I'm guessing they
 are ~$50 from a distributor?

 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 http://wbmfg.com/products.cfm?PID=39

 On Friday, April 24, 2015, Josh Baird joshba...@gmail.com wrote:

 PRM4's are hard to find these days.  Anybody have a secret source?

 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   No, but I have used multiple PRM4’s at a site.

  *From:* Gino Villarini
 *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2015 9:44 AM
  *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24 - cut them up??

   No, but why… they are not that expensive



 Gino A. Villarini
 President

  From: Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net
 Reply-To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 Date: Friday, April 24, 2015 at 10:40 AM
 To: af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] APC PRM-24 - cut them up??


 Anybody cut these in half (or thirds) for when you need more than 4
 and a lot less than 24 ports?



 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net









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[AFMUG] MT config mirror script

2015-04-20 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
If I have a production router on the network, and a virtual router in the
lab, is there a script to keep the production configuration mirrored onto
the lab router?

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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHZ and Cambium 450

2015-04-20 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
hopefully WISPA will do the industry a favor and get clear instructions and
FAQ together, primarily dealing with the grandfathered gear, what can and
cannot be done, etc.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 7:10 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Check your WISPA mail. They've made the announcements and initial analysis.



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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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 *From: *David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, April 20, 2015 7:07:12 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] FCC 3.5 GHZ and Cambium 450


 I havent been updated to know if the fcc has opened up the lower 3.5 side
 yet.


 On 4/18/2015 7:42 AM, Matt wrote:

 Has anyone heard how the Cambium 450 gear will work with the new
 3.5Ghz FCC rules and additional spectrum?  Will he still have 20Mhz
 channels and ABAB capability?  How will this all work?


 --




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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] WTS Working/tested Ubiquiti NB5G-25 field pulls.

2015-04-24 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
these are M I assume?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net
wrote:

   I’m definitely interested. 10 or 20, just got to crunch some numbers.



  *From:* Peter Kranz pkr...@unwiredltd.com
 *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2015 1:26 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] WTS Working/tested Ubiquiti NB5G-25 field pulls.


 I have 40 NB5G-25 5Ghz Ubiquiti 25db Nanobridges available. These are
 working pulls from our network that and I will provide a 90-day warranty on
 the units. As working pulls, some of the dishes may have slight corrosion
 or sun bleaching. We will test and default all units before shipping.



 $50 per unit.. 10 units minimum order.




 *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com






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Re: [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions

2015-04-28 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Super dependent on your back end systems, who has access to what and to
what degree, at what point is it clearly defined that it needs escalation


On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 It’s usually quite specific to your business and it’s objectives.



 Start with what promises you have made and wish to keep to your
 customers.  Then vision calling into your company or emailing at 12 noon vs
 12 midnight and how that should be handled. Step by step you can build the
 process this way.



 Along the way, how fast do you want to commit to answering the initial
 problem and how fast do want to commit to resolving the issue.



 This should help you get started….



 Paul





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 6:31 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Escalation\NOC Questions



 I'm being asked for the following and I'm hoping to put something more
 sophisticated than just, E-mail me. Ideas? I'm assuming I will actually
 have to develop some procedures, but I don't really know where to start.


 # Quoting process / contact-escalation list
 # Ordering process / contact-escalation list
 # NOC process (including tickets and maintenance windows) /
 contact-escalation list



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 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
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Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular bands. I
know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more, but in the
long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is on
 the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a 0.8mile
 link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is less than 40ft
 difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel width
 they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to worry about.

 -Ty








-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
802.11a, runs token ring and uses coax. Its their retro model

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
wrote:

  Is it 802.11n or 802.11ac?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 10:51 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!



 New ePMP form factor. Connectorized.



  bp

 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com



  On 4/29/2015 10:42 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:





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 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
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 *From: *Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org p...@paulstewart.org
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:16:10 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

 “You are not authorized to access this page.”



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2015 1:13 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!



 https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2598340



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
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 *From: *Colin Stanners cstann...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 29, 2015 12:02:46 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Fwd: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!

 Looking at the pictures it's a tiny module with gigabit and two small
 dipoles, so this would be the feed horn for their new force 110 PTP unit.

 -- Forwarded message --
 From: FCCID.NET i...@fccid.net
 Date: Apr 29, 2015 10:19 AM
 Subject: New FCC Application for Cambium Networks inc.!
 To: cstann...@gmail.com
 Cc:

  A new FCC Application has just gone through for Cambium Networks inc.!
  It appears to be for a Dual Channel OFDM MIMO/SISO Transceiver (TS -
 Digital Transmission System).
  Full details on this application and possible product images can be
 found at http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=Z8H89FT0015id=831141
  If you blog this news, please include us as a reference. :)
 
  Cheers,
  FCCID.NET
 










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Re: [AFMUG] Uh-oh, this can't be good.

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I never said the band belonged to us. Its a fiscal responsibility thing.
They have spectrum set aside for them, so when they need the data its
there. But they go cheap because of the upfront cost, but pay more in the
long run in support costs.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 there you go..a business opportunity

 Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Oh don't get me wrong at all Jaime, I don't have any problem with them
 using the band. I just pray they use it responsibly which, according to
 what I can see on the installation of these units, is not likely. Good news
 is I have a meeting with a Captain soon about a water tower we are building
 out and I intend to find out who to talk to about those radios. Might be
 able to offer some services in the name of making sure they play nice.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 These bands are not exclusive to WISPs.   The police can use whatever
 they want or can afford like the rest of us.  Always astounds me how much
 many WISPS complain about others using the free and unlicensed bands.  Damn
 they opened more spectrum recently and if you cant make it work for you
 maybe you are not doing  it right.  I doubt many of you have the noise
 border towns like mine has and never once have you heard me complain about
 non Wisps using these bands.  If we get noise we make changes. We tried 900
 recently on mtn and it didn't work.  We installed a small POP to service
 the area and moved on.

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:41 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 I get irritated seeing municipalities using cheap shit in regular
 bands. I know it costs more to go to say 4.9 and quality gear costs more,
 but in the long run, the staff or outsourced IT support costs even out

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought the same thing Lewis and Sean! Fingers-crossed, lol.

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 there must not be any wind in your area either since that airfiber is
 on the tippy top of a 10' pole with no guy wires or any thing. :-/

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150429_121159.jpg

 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7458727/20150403_144024.jpg

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Imgur!

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 2:17 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Crap - they were too large. I'm scaling them down now. Please
 hold...

 -Ty

 On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No picture

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 29, 2015 1:22 PM, Ty Featherling 
 tyfeatherl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Look what our local police department just had put up for a
 0.8mile link. Check out the uptilt on that second radio. There is 
 less than
 40ft difference in elevation.

 I'm sure they will run them responsibly with only the channel
 width they need and sane power levels, right? Right? Nothing to 
 worry
 about.

 -Ty








 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..

2015-04-26 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
interesting. I wonder if this could impact video quality and buffering in
an odd way, could explain a customer issue we have had

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Did you update the signatures?  That sounds awfully generic.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 26, 2015 11:47 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com wrote:

 You have got to be kidding me? CDN traffic being discarded 50%? What
 exactly would this be? The Procera box picked this traffic up as HTTP
 Download so it wasn't streaming. Only other thing I can think of is this
 customer has an XBOX maybe it was downloading an update? with 50% packet
 loss no wonder they called and complained, said they couldn't do
 anything


 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 11:11 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
  wrote:

 Sorry, I missed that .. :)

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 --

 *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 9:50:17 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..

 I know. I was being sarcastic.

 It doesn't seem fair that they do TCP congestion control in a way that
 doubles the traffic and we end up discarding 50% anyway, but it still fills
 up our pipes. Just sayin'.

 On 4/26/2015 8:37 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

 I see that the net neutrality is going to be the next boogieman under
 the bed for WISP's from now on...

 Please, please, please, correct your understanding on Net-Neutrality...

 It allows for one to traffic shape any and all kinds of traffic, as long
 as :-
a) You declare your practice on your website.
b) You DONT DO IT specific to A SPECIFIC Network.. i.e. all VOIP, or
 all Video, or ALL Streaming..
  (applying a throttle on video to netflix while allowing Hulu would
 be considered a violation, but applying throttle to all types of video
 content is NOT !)


 :)


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 --

 *From: *George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com
 geo...@cbcast.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:12:13 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..

 So you'd be purposely slowing down or blocking legitimate traffic from
 an edge provider to the customer? Oh no, net neutrality violation!

 So when everyone starts with the 4k streaming and we're selling the
 customer 20Mbps, then we have to take on 40Mbps because of this!?

 On 4/26/2015 5:58 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 I could justify declaring such traffic an attack and blocking the source
 as malicious.

 *From:* George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:30 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 450SM sustain bucket throttle not working..

 Yep, I see this all the time and Ken is exactly right. The Canopy QoS
 works exactly as designed, the AP is definitely not delivering more than
 the sustained rate, but is instead discarding the extra 50%. I've tested
 this situation thoroughly. Stick a MT simple queue in at the upstream
 router and the 2X rate traffic stops hitting the AP's ethernet interface,
 but it's still coming in at double the sustained rate farther upstream.
 There's no way around it except throwing bandwidth at it.

 This is CDN traffic. And when the customer thinks they can install one
 of those internet download managers to speed up their connection. The
 only thing it does is screw with TCP acks or window sizes or something
 which just puts more traffic on your transit just to be discarded at the
 congestion point (SM, queue, Procera, whatever). Gotta love it.

 You'd think with 70% of the internets being streaming video they'd think
 hmm.. maybe we can cut down on the peering congestion by NOT doing this
 crap. But no.

 On 4/26/2015 11:01 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

 Sorry to answer a question with a question, but are you measuring at the
 SM, or at some upstream router?

 The reason I ask, is I have seen some CDN traffic that does not seem to
 follow traditional TCP congestion control.  It will send at twice the rate
 limit, causing 50% packet loss to its own traffic and everything else to
 that same subscriber.  Evidently some TCP geniuses have decided to use
 latency rather than packet loss as the indicator of congestion, and that
 the objective is goodput not throughput.  Works for last mile technologies
 like T1 and DSL with big buffers at the 

Re: [AFMUG] In concert...Chicago

2015-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I always thought Jay would look mor Duck Dynastyish


On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Nice

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 26, 2015 11:48 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
 wrote:


 alone
 i had front row :)


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 9:54 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] In concert...Chicago

 cool..are they alone or with EWF

  Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 8:48 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


 Tonight in Huntsville alThey r in intermission

 Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

 - Reply message -
 From: Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] In concert...Chicago
 Date: Sun, Apr 26, 2015 9:30 PM

 where was this?

  Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 6:43 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:

   The band says hi !


 Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone






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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties

2015-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I love these bands, we did a city job on light poles over a highway and
needed to put the surge suppressors somewhare, we ended up getting a srteet
sign blank and banded it to the pole (this is what holds the signs to
poles), mounted all the SS to the blank, it looked like a pretty butterfly

On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 AT$T has visited the site we share a lot more often than I have.  ;-)
 Well, once I exclude fixing stuff they've messed up.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:48:06 PM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties

 Sure it will.  Even the highest quality stuff.



 Had a site back in my WISP days that had LMR-400 running to a licensed
 radio head going 50ft up a tower attached every 5ft using 3m tape along the
 tower leg.  A good snow storm with 100MPH winds came along and ripped the
 cable off the tower one day… I think 6 months after installation (so you
 can’t blame UV exposure).


 Went back and used hose clamps (after a helicopter ride later and two
 weeks of an area of our network limping along on a backup backhaul path)
 and never had issues again.  Learned that lesson once after losing a lot of
 customers and feeling a lot of frustration (the site was on a 14,000 ft
 mountain and wind/snow conditions made it inaccessible during the winter
 basically… so it took two weeks for a narrow window to get up there).



 Will electrical tape or zip ties fail in most WISP applications for the
 life of the cable or installation of the equipment, probably not (heck I
 used zip ties on the cable for the SAF Integra radio on the roof of our
 office).  But SCADA (and even the carriers) operate in a “do it right the
 first time by a well-worn and time tested book and never visit the site
 again”.  It is a CAPEX/OPEX question really… and customers like Jaime is
 working with here can’t afford to take the hit on OPEX since it way
 outpaces the cost of the upfront CAPEX to overbuild the site.  That site
 might take hours to get to, and the downtime cost could be in the hundreds
 of thousands of dollars.  Why risk it on electrical tape vs. band-it (cost
 difference is maybe an additional hour of Jaime’s time and $20 in
 supplies?).



 The greatest gift being on the manufacturing side has given me is the
 opportunity to see hundreds of networks and thousands of different ways of
 doing things.  Some are wrong, many are different shades of right.  Some
 amaze me at the gratuitous overkill (here is looking at you Ricochet).  As
 Lewis said in another thread recently, there is a point where spending more
 on the grounding system than the equipment it is protecting doesn’t make
 sense for an incremental improvement.



 Food for thought :-D



 ***

 Daniel White - Managing Director

 SAF North America LLC

 Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

 daniel.wh...@saftehnika.com

 Skype: danieldwhite
 Social: LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84



 ***



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
 *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:35 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties



 Black tape won't fail in your lifetime

 On Apr 26, 2015 11:32 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 Zip ties will do the same freaking thing if you cut them with diagonal
 cutters.



 *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com

 *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:49 AM

 *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Stainless steel wire ties



 Yes that was blood.. I took my gloves off to take pictures and grabbed
 tower leg to adjust and got a two inch cut on right thumb.  Still healing.

 Jaime Solorza



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Re: [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency

2015-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
If he can order, order a toshiba tecra, theyre workhorses.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I don't think they carry anything one would consider business class. It
 appeared to be all consumer models.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, April 27, 2015 11:52:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency


  BestBuy ?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 12:40 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency



 I have a friend in Miami, leftover from the MUM. Where's a place he could
 buy a new laptop. Something along the lines of a Thinkpad or Latitude.
 Something business class.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix






-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency

2015-04-27 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
sometimes an emergency can wait 24 hours. If its an emergency, like right
now, just need to get by, go rent a 300 dollar laptop from best buy or
walmart and return it tommorrow

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Emergency != order =(


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 1:03 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 If he can order, order a toshiba tecra, theyre workhorses.

 On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I don't think they carry anything one would consider business class. It
 appeared to be all consumer models.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, April 27, 2015 11:52:55 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency


  BestBuy ?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2015 12:40 PM
 *To:* Animal Farm
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Miami Laptop Emergency



 I have a friend in Miami, leftover from the MUM. Where's a place he
 could buy a new laptop. Something along the lines of a Thinkpad or
 Latitude. Something business class.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix






 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] FW: What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth?

2015-05-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
offer to provide him a replacement radio, not cash

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:53 AM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  Tell him to go after the guy that left there to take up space all those
 years it wasnt in use.

 This is why we have an agreement or contract signed before anything or any
 work happens on our towers.



 On 5/3/2015 10:56 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  No.� We didn�t even check though.�

 �

 This guys is too uninformed to have any idea what the equipment is worth
 but when I said they were worth $1000, that�s all he heard.� He
 didn�t hear the part where I said 10 years ago and he isn�t listening
 to reason.

 �

 Rory

 �

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *David Milholen
 *Sent:* Sunday, May 3, 2015 8:18 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth?

 �

 got any lightning damaged units or panels?
 hmm,

  On 5/3/2015 7:57 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:

 I took one off a tower and threw it away along with the very large 900MHz
 sector antenna.� It was disconnected and the company that put it up there
 is out of business.� However, the tower manager thinks I should reimburse
 him for it.� ��

 �

 *Rory Conaway � Triad Wireless � CEO*

 *4226 S. 37th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040*

 *602-426-0542 602-426-0542*

 *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net*

 *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/*

 *�*

 *�There is only one way in this world to avoid criticism: do nothing,
 say nothing, and be nothing.� - Aristotle*

 �

 �

 --


 --




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] FW: What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth?

2015-05-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
definitely sounds like a good reason to look into breaking your contract
and go elsewhere

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

  I did but he isn’t being reasonable.  This guy wanted to file theft
 charges against us for stealing his property off the tower.   We do have a
 contract.  We just have to add a clause that says we can take stuff off
 that’s older than my dog, not plugged in, has damaged cables, and the
 company has long since gone to the big corporation in the sky.  At this
 point though, we are going over his head.  I’m thinking if he is this
 psychotic with us, his board might be getting tired of him.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
 /sarcasm
 *Sent:* Monday, May 4, 2015 7:29 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FW: What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth?



 offer to provide him a replacement radio, not cash



 On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:53 AM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com
 wrote:

 Tell him to go after the guy that left there to take up space all those
 years it wasnt in use.

 This is why we have an agreement or contract signed before anything or any
 work happens on our towers.



  On 5/3/2015 10:56 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:

  No.� We didn�t even check though.�

 �

 This guys is too uninformed to have any idea what the equipment is worth
 but when I said they were worth $1000, that�s all he heard.� He
 didn�t hear the part where I said 10 years ago and he isn�t listening
 to reason.

 �

 Rory

 �

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *David Milholen
 *Sent:* Sunday, May 3, 2015 8:18 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What is a 900Mhz P5 AP unit worth?

 �

 got any lightning damaged units or panels?
 hmm,

 On 5/3/2015 7:57 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:

 I took one off a tower and threw it away along with the very large 900MHz
 sector antenna.� It was disconnected and the company that put it up there
 is out of business.� However, the tower manager thinks I should reimburse
 him for it.� ��

 �

 *Rory Conaway � Triad Wireless � CEO*

 *4226 S. 37th Street � Phoenix � AZ 85040*

 *602-426-0542 602-426-0542*

 *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net*

 *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/*

 *�*

 *�There is only one way in this world to avoid criticism: do nothing,
 say nothing, and be nothing.� - Aristotle*

 �

 �

 --



 --





 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] our shiny new website

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
that is a nice looking coverage map

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Graham McIntire gra...@vntx.net wrote:

 Ty,

 What did you use to generate the service coverage area with Google maps?

 Graham


 On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 After hiring a new guy for tech support that turns out to be quite savvy
 at web-design, we turned him loose on our crappy website. We have been live
 with the new one for about a week and I am very pleased with it. Please
 check it out and let me know if you see anything of concern.

 www.zeecon.com

 -Ty





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!

2015-04-29 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Their paid software is as much of a disaster to deal with. They obfuscate
their obfuscation using multiple levels of dual factor obfuscation

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Jon Bruce jbruce-af...@ptpbroadband.com
wrote:

  Damn them and their free software.

 On 4/28/2015 12:32 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:

  +1 yup..



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:40 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] F*$%^% Microsoft!!!



 Microsoft.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  It is insane to even have this problem, let alone there be such as
 stupid workaround to the stupid problem. Why not just make it that easy to
 begin with?



 -Ty



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  You're very welcome.  Just remember to type redist after your search and
 you'll save your sanity.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER! That worked fine. Had to turn off pop-up blocking
 still even though chrome never told me it was blocking a pop-up but I got
 it downloading now.



 Thanks Josh.



 -Ty



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

  Just put redistributable behind your search



 https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=42299




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Ty Featherling tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I have been trying to download Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
 2014 Express, which is FREE SOFTWARE for 2 whole hours now. No it is not a
 slow download.. well it might be but I have no idea since I have yet to
 even manage to start any downloads. the MSDN site is just leading me in
 circles. Click here to register and download, sign in to you Live.com
 account, enter your name and email address, select language, select which
 version you want to download, uncheck the i want spam options, click
 Contine to download.. Thanks for downloading! Here are some
 resources!



 F%$ you MS!! This is ridiculous. Anyone have the installer for SSMS 2014
 or even for the full SQL Server 2014 Express?



 I even tried to find a torrent but couldn't.



 -Ty















-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Noooo! Simon is Leaving!

2015-05-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
theyre in wisconsin, their no compete has the value of a rat turd in a
court room probably

I hear that simon is becoming a DJ at a radio station, kbillys super sounds
of the seventies

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:51 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   So maybe we need to start a rumor that JAB bought Bertram.

  *From:* Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
 *Sent:* Monday, May 04, 2015 8:39 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving!

  I always heard Bertram has a ridiculously broad non-compete - to the
 point where it might be unenforceable depending on who you ask?

 ___
 Mangled by my iPhone.
 ___

 Tyler Treat
 Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

 tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
 ___


 On May 4, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

  I asked. I think he even considered it for at least 1 second. He didn't
 actually say no. Just gave a strategic reply. I'm taking it as he is still
 considering.
 On May 4, 2015 8:27 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

 LOL :)

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 05/04/2015 05:23 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 He's coming to work for us. Maybe but probably not. Almost.
 On May 4, 2015 7:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
 wrote:


 I am pretty sure Jacob is not a programmer ...  :(

 Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

 - Reply message -
 From: WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving!
 Date: Mon, May 4, 2015 3:43 PM

 Apparently today is Simon's last day at Powercode.  I don't need to know 
 the why's and all that gossip but I do think we need to give him a good 
 send off and say thanks for taking such good care of his customers.  He's 
 been a true professional in our industry and he had advanced Powercode in 
 leaps and bounds beyond anything else out there.

 Any sort of new feature or idea we had he would implement it if it were 
 possible.

 He's going to be a huge loss to our industry!

 Its going to be a massive job for Jacob to fill his shoes even though Jacob 
 is also a great guy but wow this is devastating news to us..





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Noooo! Simon is Leaving!

2015-05-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Banjo He's going to cbb
On May 5, 2015 3:32 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

 Yes...and much more. Feel free to contact me offlist Keefe.

 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Keefe John keefe...@ethoplex.com wrote:

  does wispmon do billing?


 On 5/5/2015 10:09 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 I have WISPMon and haven't seen anything elsewhere to incite me to change.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
  --
 *From: *Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 10:05:46 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving!

  What would you consider the best option?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 6:54 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving!



 I didn't consider them the best option in the first place.  ;-)



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
  --

 *From: *Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 8:50:21 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving!

 I just sent them an email to evaluate them and another product for a new
 company.   So, given all the postings, are the still considered the best
 option?



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 6:45 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving!



 This is sad news! I only went with Powercode knowing that Simon was on
 the team!




 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110



 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 I have seen it and I have paid to have it evaluated by an attorney.



 Two words from your post come to mind “ridiculously broad” and
 “unenforceable”.



 *From:* Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com

 *Sent:* Monday, May 04, 2015 7:39 PM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving!



 I always heard Bertram has a ridiculously broad non-compete - to the
 point where it might be unenforceable depending on who you ask?

 ___

 Mangled by my iPhone.

 ___



 Tyler Treat

 Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.



 tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com

 ___




 On May 4, 2015, at 8:34 PM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com wrote:

  I asked. I think he even considered it for at least 1 second. He didn't
 actually say no. Just gave a strategic reply. I'm taking it as he is still
 considering.

 On May 4, 2015 8:27 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

 LOL :)

 Josh Reynolds

 CIO, SPITwSPOTS

 www.spitwspots.com

  On 05/04/2015 05:23 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:

 He's coming to work for us. Maybe but probably not. Almost.

 On May 4, 2015 7:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
 wrote:



 I am pretty sure Jacob is not a programmer ...  :(



 Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone



 - Reply message -
 From: WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] N! Simon is Leaving!
 Date: Mon, May 4, 2015 3:43 PM



 Apparently today is Simon's last day at Powercode.  I don't need to know the 
 why's and all that gossip but I do think we need to give him a good send off 
 and say thanks for taking such good care of his customers.  He's been a true 
 professional in our industry and he had advanced Powercode in leaps and 
 bounds beyond anything else out there.



 Any sort of new feature or idea we had he would implement it if it were 
 possible.



 He's going to be a huge loss to our industry!



 Its going to be a massive job for Jacob to fill his shoes even though Jacob 
 is also a great guy but wow this is devastating news to us..












Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-07 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i guess im just a crybaby, turned out the orientals blew a fuse and didnt
know how to reset the breaker. our outage was no power, the cable company
still shows 137 down modems though.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 ROFL



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:31 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 Please review and then talk cable :)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso

 I love this video :)
 Anytime the word cable or even if I have a customer switch to cable this
 is what I pull up to watch at the end of the day :)

 On 5/6/2015 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 im down for alot of things





 i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one of
 the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network
 that 137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a
 single person calling or powercycling



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 Steve, it reminds me of that Star Trek movie where V’ger insists the coded
 message be delivered in person, so it can join with the Creator.  I hope
 you like bald chicks in shorty bathrobes.





 *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com

 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:25 PM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they
 say theres no outage



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net
 wrote:

 Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do a
 remote power cycle on that modem?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:22 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com


 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 Do it right, do it well or don't do it at all?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --

 *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

 you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a
 month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1
 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id
 be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site
 after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only
 thing we make any money there on is the hosted email.



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 No cable.  Only paying for fiber.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume
 you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile
 the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems.



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Yes.  You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be
 providing it yourself.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called.
 The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems
 on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50
 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here?



 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-07 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
fuck me. I used oriental specifically because i thought asian was the non
PC term. take these PC shitbuckets and shove the world up their asses

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Yeah, I think that's just made up, though. Something to make us feel bad
 about. All kinds of places still have Oriental in their name, the Asians I
 know still call people Oriental. I don't think it's the same as terms for
 other races.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:09:11 PM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  I’m sure you meant to say “Asians”.

 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oriental


  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:00 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  i guess im just a crybaby, turned out the orientals blew a fuse and
 didnt know how to reset the breaker. our outage was no power, the cable
 company still shows 137 down modems though.

 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

  ROFL



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:31 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 Please review and then talk cable :)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso

 I love this video :)
 Anytime the word cable or even if I have a customer switch to cable this
 is what I pull up to watch at the end of the day :)

  On 5/6/2015 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  im down for alot of things





 i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one of
 the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network
 that 137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a
 single person calling or powercycling



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Steve, it reminds me of that Star Trek movie where V’ger insists the
 coded message be delivered in person, so it can join with the Creator.  I
 hope you like bald chicks in shorty bathrobes.





 *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com

 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:25 PM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they
 say theres no outage



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net
 wrote:

  Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do
 a remote power cycle on that modem?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:22 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com


 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 Do it right, do it well or don't do it at all?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
  --

 *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

 you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a
 month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1
 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id
 be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site
 after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only
 thing we make any money there on is the hosted email.



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 No cable.  Only paying for fiber.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume
 you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile
 the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems.



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-07 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we had a tunnel up at one point for that, but this last issue where we
switched to the air router, we dropped that since we have the server there.
Neither of which matters when the modem is offline.

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Just do a tunnel for the management traffic (or everything if you want)
 from the Fortigate to your network so the BMU can get to it.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 lol this is strictly internet, layer 2. We had had a BMU there but when
 we went to V10 we pulled it and put in a Fortigate. Then because of the way
 they handle static IP space it quit working, we got tired of dealing with
 it and stuck an air router in until the site sells. We have no direct
 monitoring on the customers other than a server that sits over there that
 calls home, we take over a session to troubleshoot any customer issue

 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 In some cases, yes, but in most cases no.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:48:40 AM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  Just because there’s fiber doesn’t mean it’s available to you.


  *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:21 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  Where at? There's lots of fiber all over the state. There's still a
 ton not on that map.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

 you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks
 a month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month
 T1 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber.
 Id be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that
 site after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the
 only thing we make any money there on is the hosted email.

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 No cable.  Only paying for fiber.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I
 assume you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we 
 last
 mile the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down
 modems.

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Yes.  You're paying the cable company for the service when you should
 be providing it yourself.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I
 called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the
 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally 
 have
 to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem 
 here?

 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
 your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
 team.






 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you

Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-07 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
lol this is strictly internet, layer 2. We had had a BMU there but when we
went to V10 we pulled it and put in a Fortigate. Then because of the way
they handle static IP space it quit working, we got tired of dealing with
it and stuck an air router in until the site sells. We have no direct
monitoring on the customers other than a server that sits over there that
calls home, we take over a session to troubleshoot any customer issue

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 In some cases, yes, but in most cases no.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:48:40 AM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  Just because there’s fiber doesn’t mean it’s available to you.


  *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:21 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  Where at? There's lots of fiber all over the state. There's still a ton
 not on that map.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

 you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a
 month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1
 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id
 be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site
 after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only
 thing we make any money there on is the hosted email.

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 No cable.  Only paying for fiber.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume
 you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile
 the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems.

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Yes.  You're paying the cable company for the service when you should
 be providing it yourself.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I
 called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the
 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have
 to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem 
 here?

 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


[AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called.
The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems
on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50
miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume
you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile
the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems.

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Yes.  You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be
 providing it yourself.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called.
 The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems
 on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50
 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here?

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a
month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1
or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id
be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site
after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only
thing we make any money there on is the hosted email.

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 No cable.  Only paying for fiber.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume
 you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile
 the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems.

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Yes.  You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be
 providing it yourself.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I
 called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the
 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have
 to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here?

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] PTP650 and the 5.1 band

2015-05-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
iirc new firmware is 2 on 5.1 and 5.4 and 7 on 5.2 BUT this is the
integrated firmware with 40 selected, not the connectorized firmware,
connectorized may be less restrictive

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  We have a PTP650 operating in 5.1 GHz and it's on FW 01-21. It appears to
 be capping itself at 30 dBm EIRP.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 5/6/2015 3:34 PM, SmarterBroadband wrote:

  If I install 01-40 firmware can I select and use the 5.1 band in a
 PTP650?

 �

 If yes, what is the max radio power approved for the PTP650 in 5.1?

 �

 thanks





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Its in a building we own we are trying to sell. The current tenants dont
speak english, last time we tried to have them do anything, it turned out
very poorly. If they ever close on the building, it will become a non issue.
The point is when there are 137/137 down devices, I doubt nobody has
power-cycled. Its going to be a wasted 100 mile round trip, other than I
get paid to cruse around for a couple hours.
The prices on the other two options are just because of the lack of
infrastructure on those providers parts, same reason ot would cost any of
these customers an arm and a leg for us to bring any real bandwidth to
them, build out costs arent justified to do it and offer a cheap connection
in an area we arent interested in growing.

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:45 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:


 call your power company and report a power outage lol


 - Original Message -
 *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 6:22 PM
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] please reboot

 we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called.
 The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems
 on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50
 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here?

 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
im down for alot of things


i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one of
the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network
that 137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a
single person calling or powercycling

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Steve, it reminds me of that Star Trek movie where V’ger insists the
 coded message be delivered in person, so it can join with the Creator.  I
 hope you like bald chicks in shorty bathrobes.


  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:25 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they
 say theres no outage

 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net
 wrote:

  Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do
 a remote power cycle on that modem?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:22 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 Do it right, do it well or don't do it at all?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
  --

 *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

 you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a
 month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1
 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id
 be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site
 after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only
 thing we make any money there on is the hosted email.



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 No cable.  Only paying for fiber.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume
 you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile
 the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems.



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

  Yes.  You're paying the cable company for the service when you should
 be providing it yourself.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

  we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I
 called. The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the
 137 modems on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have
 to drive 50 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here?



 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






 --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they
say theres no outage

On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net
wrote:

 Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to do a
 remote power cycle on that modem?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:22 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 Do it right, do it well or don't do it at all?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --

 *From: *That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, May 6, 2015 7:03:13 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

 you tell me how to make a profit on 5 or 6 customers paying 39-49 bucks a
 month for internets when your other 2 options are a 1700 dollar a month T1
 or a fiber connection with over 10k buildout and 2600/month 50mb fiber. Id
 be interested to see that math. i think we make like 8 bucks on that site
 after we pay for the resellable cable connection as it is. I think the only
 thing we make any money there on is the hosted email.



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:50 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 No cable.  Only paying for fiber.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:46 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 you do realize everyone here on this list has a provider right, I assume
 you arent hosting the whole interwebnets there at your shop? we last mile
 the connection from a provider through the one of their 137 down modems.



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Yes.  You're paying the cable company for the service when you should be
 providing it yourself.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 7:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 we have a remote location fed by a cable connection. Its down. I called.
 The tech tells me they did some maintenance at night. 137 of the 137 modems
 on that node are offline. There is no outage. I literally have to drive 50
 miles to powercycle this modem. Anyone else see a problem here?



 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz integrated cases

2015-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
the integrated SMs are the same, just swap the card from the connectorized
AP

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Craig House cr...@totalhighspeed.net
wrote:

 Looking for some 900 MHz cases integrated for use with connectorized APs
 that I currently have. Get me off list

 Sent from my iPhone




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff

2015-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
my sister cleaned out her attic, also some older camera

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:27 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

  Wow, amazing old shit. They definitely don't make stuff like that anymore.

 On 5/11/2015 7:04 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 On May 11, 2015 7:02 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 On May 11, 2015 7:01 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 On May 11, 2015 6:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ano of this stuff have any nostalgic worth to you old timers





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] OT Diesel

2015-05-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I think any boat i will ever have will be able to float in that tank

On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
wrote:

  I just wish I had that much boat!!!

 ___
 Mangled by my iPhone.
 ___

  Tyler Treat
 Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

  tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
 ___


 On May 11, 2015, at 9:00 PM, can...@believewireless.net 
 p...@believewireless.net wrote:

   I hope it stays cheaper! Just put $750 worth in my boat for the second
 time in three weeks!

 On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
  wrote:

 It's been trending cheaper than gas here for the last few months although
 this is more of a spread than normal.   I'll take it.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

2015-05-08 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I take offense to that
 On May 8, 2015 7:41 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote:

  Well said!



 - Original Message -
 *From:* Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 7:32 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

 Only the people on this list...

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 5/8/2015 5:28 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  If you eliminate the stupid and the easily offended, how many people are
 left?

  *From:* Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net
 *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 7:00 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  I find stupid people and those easily offended offensive.




 - Original Message -
 *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
 *To:* af af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Friday, May 08, 2015 5:49 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  Personally, I'm starting to get a bit offended with the whole having to
 tiptoe around trying to find the politically correct non-offensive word to
 describe someone or something.

 I understand there are some terms for groups of people which are just
 plain offensive.  But this whole this term that used to be ok is now
 offensive so you shouldn't use it thing is getting old.  Especially when
 the same group of people have been referred to two or three different ways
 since I can remember.   And just when you figure out what you *think* is
 accurate, someone decides that's offensive too.  It's almost like you need
 a twitter feed to keep up.   And honestly, I think that no matter which
 supposedly politically correct term you used, someone would be offended by
 it.

 People just need to grow a thicker skin and get on with their lives.


 On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   I am occidental, they are oriental.
 Just a different way of saying from the west and east.

  *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 7:14 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  Yeah, I think that's just made up, though. Something to make us feel
 bad about. All kinds of places still have Oriental in their name, the
 Asians I know still call people Oriental. I don't think it's the same as
 terms for other races.



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 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, May 7, 2015 8:09:11 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

  I’m sure you meant to say “Asians”.

 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oriental


  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 07, 2015 8:00 PM
  *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot

   i guess im just a crybaby, turned out the orientals blew a fuse and
 didnt know how to reset the breaker. our outage was no power, the cable
 company still shows 137 down modems though.

 On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

  ROFL



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *David Milholen
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:31 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 Please review and then talk cable :)

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ilMx7k7mso

 I love this video :)
 Anytime the word cable or even if I have a customer switch to cable this
 is what I pull up to watch at the end of the day :)

  On 5/6/2015 9:52 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  im down for alot of things





 i find it hard to believe that in that amount of time not a single one
 of the 137 down modems had been restarted. name any section of your network
 that 137 customers could be down and you go almost the whole day without a
 single person calling or powercycling



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

   Steve, it reminds me of that Star Trek movie where V’ger insists the
 coded message be delivered in person, so it can join with the Creator.  I
 hope you like bald chicks in shorty bathrobes.





 *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com

 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:25 PM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] please reboot



 thats what im saying, all the modems on their node are offline, but they
 say theres no outage



 On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net
 wrote:

  Unless I am missing something shouldn’t the cable company be able to
 do a remote power cycle on that modem?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 06

Re: [AFMUG] [Wisp] Installer training materials

2015-05-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I just sat through the UBNT training with the installers, the RF side of
the training is very lacking, I would much preferred they focused more on
the RF theory.
If you can locate one of the old alvarion training manuals, that is the
best source I have ever found, the info is clearly delivered in human non
rf engineer speak. The one I had disappeared, very disappointing

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Justin Wilson - MTIN li...@mtin.net
wrote:

 It’s still relevant, get Jack Unger’s Book

 http://www.amazon.com/Deploying-License-Free-Wireless-Wide-Area-Networks/dp/1587057905


 Very good read.


 Justin

 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
 http://www.mtin.net  Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers
 http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics
 http://www.midwest-ix.com Peering – Transit – Internet Exchange

 On May 12, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
 wrote:

 Hey guys,

 My techs are asking for more training material so they can understand RF
 and our Ubiquiti gear a little better. Minus the UBNT wiki, are there other
 online materials you recommend similar to the Airmax training class without
 having to send my guys somewhere?

 It amazes me they're asking for learning material to understand it all
 better.

 Thanks

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Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff

2015-05-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Those we believe are rotor controllers

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I think Chuck meant these brown things... I'm also curious what they are...

 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:18 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 the brown stands? One is a TV, there is a replacement tube we think is
 for it, it looks like the tube has never been fired up, thats whats in the
 box with the CBS logo, 17 hp4. The other is the flip out radio, and a
 turntable.

 If I had time and space this stuff would be a hobby goldmine for me and
 the kids. I have no time and even less space. We have a HAM guy who is a
 family friend taking this to some radio show hes going to, hopefuly
 somebody has use for it, I hate to see it end up in a landfill. Im swiping
 that motorola logo though if it goes that route, thats just too cool to let
 go



 On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   In the second picture, there are pair of interesting brown things.
 Any idea what those are?

  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:01 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff

  On May 11, 2015 6:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ano of this stuff have any nostalgic worth to you old timers




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable

2015-05-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Bbdge and finding the squirrels nest and pissing in it resolved our
squirrel issues
On May 11, 2015 6:47 PM, David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  Yeah,
  thats the ticket !!


 On 5/11/2015 8:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  Set up a roadside squirrel stand like the squirrel lady in the movie
 “Rat Race”.

 “You should have bought a squirrel.”


  *From:* David Milholen dmilho...@wletc.com
 *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:48 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable

  make a large funnel with a deep enclosure for the funnel to fit on top
 of so the base of the funnel is inside the drum/enclosure.
 place some peanut butter in the base of the drum and coat the inside of
 the funnel with teflon oh and yes be sure the
 base of the funnel has a large enough hole big enough to allow them to get
 in and it must have a neck on the funnel.
 Give them  a  plank to walk over the funnel.
 This way the little suckers will fall into the drum and if its deep enough
 cant get out.
 Or you could get some of the larger rodent traps at farm supply that do
 the same thing accept they lay flat on the ground
 I dont like catching the big ones that are larger than the trap cuz they
 get a little angry.


 On 5/10/2015 11:22 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 I think I'm going to set out some live traps tomorrow and relocate them. I
 guess the farmer hates the squirrels being there, s  now they won't
 be.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
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  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
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  --
 *From: *Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com mhoward...@gmail.com
 *To: *af mailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 11:19:07 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable

 Conduit would probably be the most practical fix, but shooting the little
 vermin would be so much more satisfying...

 On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  I don't even know what you're saying anymore. You said to run conduit.
 I said it would be expensive and complicated, but agreed. You then said
 conduit would be cheaper in the long run as if I disagreed (when I didn't).
 I confirmed that I agreed. You kept posting as if I was disagreeing with
 you, but I'm not.



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 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
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  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
  --
  *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:36:20 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable

 Not if you count labor and opportunity cost it isn't

  On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  I did say it would be cheaper to run conduit than to keep running
 cable.

 http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ProductListing.aspx?catid=104


 http://www.sportsmansguide.com/productlist/ammo-shooting/rifle-ammo/22lr-ammo?d=121c=96s=2886



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
  --
 *From: *Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2015 4:12:06 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Voltage\Amperage on Shielded Cable

 Depend on if you want a bigger CAPEX or a bigger OPEX

 I prefer a bigger capital expense and a smaller operating expense.  I
 don't like visiting POPs over and over to fix stuff.

 2 cents

 -Sean


 On Sunday, May 10, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  That sounds expensive and complicated, though less so than running
 new wires all of the time. TBH, I'd rather just sit there and shoot them
 all than run conduit up the grain leg.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 

Re: [AFMUG] Installer roof boots

2015-05-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Yeah, very disappointed
On May 13, 2015 7:05 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I was expecting something else from a Cougar Paws web site.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
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  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

  https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *Work timothy.pct...@gmail.com
 *To: *af af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, May 13, 2015 6:03:17 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Installer roof boots

 Anyone using the cougar paw boots? I'm told they let you walk up a 12/12
 can anyone put any truth to that?

 http://www.cougarpaws.com/en/2-shoes-boots

 —
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox




[AFMUG] Mikrotik stable OS version

2015-05-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
just got in an rb1100ahx2 What is the current most stable software version
recomended on these?

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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!

2015-05-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
If it was a sale, it was probably evil jab
On May 16, 2015 8:34 AM, Trey Scarborough t...@3dsc.co wrote:

 Truly my personal guess about what is going on after all of the events
 lately with powercode is that someone bought them up. This would be
 something that I am sure would make any employee rethink there career
 options. Just by the way they seem to be leaving and very open about
 accepting new offers, but not certain what they are wanting to do going on.
 I have been in the position of buyout and mergers from large companies
 before. It usually means that key employees get large bonuses to stick
 around and support transitioning. I as well had to decide to stick around
 or leave and have done both.

 From all the anouncments and changes I would suspect that there is a very
 good chance this could end up going either good or bad. If it is a larger
 company with a great deal of resources they may take powercode and greatly
 improve the product or stick it on the shelf and let it rot. I would hope
 it would be for the better.

 On 05/15/2015 10:31 AM, WaveDirect wrote:

 Well I heard they were gearing up for bigger things.  The reasons for
 them leaving were private and really don't matter as far as the product is
 concerned. They both were there for a while so maybe a change in life is
 good for them both.  Powercode is in a pretty good state at the moment but
 I just hope they can hire someone SOON.. a ringer who'll give Powercode the
 same care and consideration that Simon and Jacob gave it.



 - Original Message -
 From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!

 The good thing about it is there wont be any safe major updates for a
 while
 so everybody can focus on their summer projects, but with these two gone,
 there is no way the company vision wont change. With simon there it had
 become a beautiful usercentric product.

 On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:15 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org
 wrote:

  Yes the culling has begun...

 Not happy.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:28:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!

 Say aint so?

 From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto:
 par...@cyberbroadband.net
 Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:
 af@afmug.com
 Date: Friday, May 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM
 To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:
 af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!


 hmmm, not sure i like what i am hearing

 - Original Message -
 From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:51 AM
 Subject: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!


 Wow...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373








Re: [AFMUG] Powercode

2015-05-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
They should hire me to interface the customers. I can get expectations
lowered in no time

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
wrote:

 I'll say this again. Powercode needs to hire some people from VISP.net,
 specifically Dave Thomas and Veronica Perrin. They are some of the best
 people I've had the chance to speak with. While I'm going with Powercode
 for the product, the people at VISP are top notch! If Dave and Veronica
 went to work for Powercode, it would be a solid product and things would
 get done and customers would be happy. They're great at PR and Customer
 service, something Powercode is really struggling with at this time from my
 experience.

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:28 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote:

 Yeah gotta realize that Simon left a huge void.  Jacob will try his best
 to fill it.  Just need to remember most coders (that I know)  don't have
 the best bedside manners and tend to like to dwell in basements cut off
 from social contact.  They need to find a PR guy to fill that void and let
 Jacob focus on filling Simon's technical work.

 So give them some time I'm sure some people will pick up the slack.

 - Original Message -
 From: Andreas Wiatowski andr...@silowireless.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 9:41:45 AM
 Subject: [AFMUG] Powercode

 Anyone know what's going on with Powercode?  I know Simon left...but we
 have a bunch of outstanding issues...and getting the attention of anyone is
 becoming a concern. One in particular is costing me money..

 Cheers,

 Andreas Wiatowski, CEO
 Silo Wireless Inc.
 1-866-727-4138 x-600
 Web: www.silowireless.comhttp://www.silowireless.com
 Facebook: www.facebook.com/silowireless
 Twitter: @silowireless




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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] using airview in the latest crome

2015-05-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im pretty sure thats googles stance on it, which is why theyre depreciating
it. I know java is like everybodys golden dildo, but they really need to
find a new fetish


On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 Java sucks.  It continues to suck.  STOP USING IT!  How hard can it be to
 write your own HTML5 page to replicate the applet?

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On May 14, 2015 9:37 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com
 wrote:

 ya its a pain



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Vince West
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:46 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] using airview in the latest crome



 I struggled with this for an hour. I didn't know it was anything to do
 with Chrome. It worked in IE much to my surprise.

 Another tech found it online. It was rather annoying for 10 minutes.

 On May 13, 2015 9:29 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 1. Open Chrome and browse to chrome://flags/#enable-npapi

 2. Click the Enable NPAPI setting.



 Then add the ip of the radio to java trusted sites



 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Odd looking tower

2015-05-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I think its a jade helm listening post. get your tinfoil helmets, the
jackboots are coming!

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Justin Wilson - MTIN li...@mtin.net
wrote:

 We have a lot of similar looking towers in Indiana.  Mainly around
 Indianapolis. The are DOT.

 Justin


 Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
 http://www.mtin.net  Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers
 http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics
 http://www.midwest-ix.com Peering – Transit – Internet Exchange

 On May 13, 2015, at 3:05 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
 geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

  Could be DOT or EMA.

 On 5/13/2015 1:58 PM, Brian Sullivan wrote:

 Genoa, IL.  I saw this along the road about a mile from one of our towers.
 Anyone know what it's for?
 Mail Attachment.jpegMail Attachment.jpeg






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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Good looking billboard!

2015-05-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
sweet! did you venture back out?

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Cool!  Cha ching! !

 Jaime Solorza
 On May 14, 2015 6:18 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice!

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:56 PM, Tyler Treat 
 tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com wrote:



 ___
 Mangled by my iPhone.
 ___

 Tyler Treat
 Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

 tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
 ___





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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


[AFMUG] Sales shout

2015-05-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I mentioned this guy once before. But Im dealing with him again on a couple
projects, I suspect the boss may screw him out of free labor (get the sales
guy to do the quote, then price shop his product offering). So Im hoping
somebody here will pick up on him and send some business his way.
I hate sales guys, I cant stand them, I dont like people in general, but
sales guys are the worst. This guy is the only sales guy I answer the phone
for. the follow up calls are friendly, he remembers me and offers up
relevant products if theyre on his radar. If I tell him im climbing up some
grain leg, he says ok and ends the call if I have time to talk he finds out
what projects are going on and what offerings he has to meet the need. Ive
never seen longer than a 48 hour turnaround on a quote.
We have made a total of 1 purchase in the three years almost Ive been
dealing with him, yet he treats us like we are his number 1 customer (I
hope to god we arent :-) )

This is the guy, if your looking for some stuff, hit him up:
jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


[AFMUG] oklahoma guy

2015-05-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
My railroad guy took a job in oklahoma, near oklahoma city. If anybody out
in that area needs a project guy I can put you in contact. Hes a tower
safety instructor for the railroad, he has built up a crew here in illinois
for project work (fri-sun) and is working to build a crew out there. Hes no
nonsense reliable, tower work, fiber work (hes built up a legitimate fiber
toolset) general radioman. He went full businessman and got his insurance
and the necessities to do jobs for guys on the side.



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!

2015-05-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
The good thing about it is there wont be any safe major updates for a while
so everybody can focus on their summer projects, but with these two gone,
there is no way the company vision wont change. With simon there it had
become a beautiful usercentric product.

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:15 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote:

 Yes the culling has begun...

 Not happy.

 - Original Message -
 From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:28:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!

 Say aint so?

 From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto:
 par...@cyberbroadband.net
 Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:
 af@afmug.com
 Date: Friday, May 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM
 To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
 
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!


 hmmm, not sure i like what i am hearing

 - Original Message -
 From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
 Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:51 AM
 Subject: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!


 Wow...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 registration

2015-05-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Cheryl Black
Program Analyst
Federal Communications Commission
Wireless Telecommunications Bureau
Broadband Division



Telephone:  717-338-2617

Email:  cheryl.bl...@fcc.gov

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

  What's her number?

 On 5/15/2015 11:22 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 call her

 On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have a bunch of pending 3.65ghz site registrations.

 What's the best way to find out what the hold up is?




  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 registration

2015-05-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
call her

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a bunch of pending 3.65ghz site registrations.

 What's the best way to find out what the hold up is?




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] 3.65 registration

2015-05-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
my brain just fell out of my eye

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:41 AM, David dmilho...@wletc.com wrote:

  I wonder if it has to do with the new rule changes coming for 3.55-3.8 ?


 On 05/15/2015 10:28 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:

 Thank you Steve.

 On 5/15/2015 11:23 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

  Cheryl Black
 Program Analyst
 Federal Communications Commission
 Wireless Telecommunications Bureau
 Broadband Division



 Telephone:  717-338-2617

 Email:  cheryl.bl...@fcc.gov

 On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  What's her number?

 On 5/15/2015 11:22 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 call her

 On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have a bunch of pending 3.65ghz site registrations.

 What's the best way to find out what the hold up is?




  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!

2015-05-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
disconcerting

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Jay Weekley par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:

 Whatchu talkin bout willis?


 Josh Luthman wrote:


 Wow...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


[AFMUG] google domains?

2015-05-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
any issues with using google domains to register and manage a domain name?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Powercode

2015-05-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Who the hell is Alexander?

On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 12:04 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


 well, while we're discussing powercode, the biggest / only issue we have
 right now is google calendar intregration with our installers.  last i read
 on the forum, it was an outdated api issue.   is anyone working with
 powercode on this currently?

 thanks :)

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net
 *To:* memb...@wispa.org
 *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2015 11:51 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA Members] Powercode

 Uh.WTH.
 On May 15, 2015 11:43 AM, Adrian Folsom afol...@ptera.com wrote:

 So now Jacob is gone too, and personally I am now becoming worried.

 For those who did not receive the emails, here they are:

 

 On May 4, 2015, at 1:12 PM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com wrote:

 Adrian,


 I wanted to let you know that today is my last day at Powercode. In my
 absence, please use Jacob as a point of contact - you can reach him at
 ja...@powercode.com. I greatly appreciate the opportunity I've had to
 work with you in my time at Powercode, and I wish you all the best in the
 future. I am confident that I leave you in good hands with the team at
 Powercode, and that they will continue to provide you with the same
 exceptional service and quality product as I hope you agree you've received
 over the past few years.


 I wish you all the best and I hope our paths cross again in the future!

 

 

 On May 15, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Jacob Kailing ja...@powercode.com wrote:

 Hello,


 I am contacting you to inform you that today will be my last day at
 Powercode. It has been a pleasure getting to know you during our time
 working together and  I wish you continued success in the future. Zach
 Curry will be your new point of contact in my absence. Please contact
 supp...@powercode.com or z...@powercode.com for support or sales
 inquiries.


  It was a pleasure getting to know you and building a great
 relationship. I wish you the best!

 


 Adrian Folsom, MBA
 Director of Sales  Marketing
 *Ptera Inc.*
 d. 509.464.6941
 c. 509.294.0027
 ptera.com
 facebook.com/PteraInc | twitter.com/Ptera


 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Kameron Blomquist 
 kame...@sightlinewireless.com wrote:

  or here... first i am hearing about it...

 Interesting.




 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 11:16 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:


 No email here

 Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

 - Reply message -
 From: Casey|WISPA airl...@airlinkrb.com
 To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA Members] Powercode
 Date: Thu, May 14, 2015 9:12 AM

 I never saw an email.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On May 14, 2015, at 8:52 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

  Me either, got the news here!

 I think PC is lacking on PR.  They should have someone dealing with
 this “situation” , No one is here on answering questions …

 From: Darin Steffl darin.ste...@mnwifi.com
 Reply-To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa.org
 Date: Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:47 AM
 To: memb...@wispa.org memb...@wispa..org memb...@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Powercode

  I never received an email either and assuming Daniel didn't.. I get
 all emails. Not in spam either.

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Adair Winter 
 ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote:

 It was and Simon had even admitted about I but I know they were
 working on it.
  On May 14, 2015 8:20 AM, Tekwav Lists tekwavli...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 And not this Powercode customer.  In my opinion, I actually think
 their customer service levels are starting to slip.

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Adair Winter 
 ada...@amarillowireless.net wrote:

 Not this powercode customer.
  On May 14, 2015 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman 
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 He sent a message announcing it to all Powercode customers.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
  On May 14, 2015 3:08 AM, Daniel Moore daniel.mo...@unggoy.net
 wrote:

  Does anyone know the truth behind Simon and Powercode? I have
 seen emails from AF mailing lists that Simon is no longer with them.  
 I am
 not a member of AF so do not get those emails, can anyone 
 confirm/deny?  If
 this is true, I wonder how this might affect them… as I understand he 
 is
 (or was) the driving force behind it.



 -Daniel



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[AFMUG] visual ospf mapping

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Does the dude have any method to indicate OSPF paths visually? We are far
from implentation, so its no priority, Im just curious how best to monitor
such things.


I havent messed with the dud much before, always had problems. But
installed it the other day and had it scan the office network. how long has
it been mapping physical ports? I thought that was like a buttered bee.

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
UBNT would, take out the primary Air CRM competitor, put all the remaining
coders on one of their boats, in the 2 years it takes that boat to get
anywhere ther ewill be no updates or support. It will be madness on the
ship, first with some cannibalism then... well its not pretty

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:23 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote:

 If its digis it'll mean they'll let it rot. They don't use it.  Although
 it is a separate company from Bertram I don't see how anyone would buy it
 to let it die.

 - Original Message -
 From: Trey Scarborough t...@3dsc.co
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 9:34:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!

 Truly my personal guess about what is going on after all of the events
 lately with powercode is that someone bought them up. This would be
 something that I am sure would make any employee rethink there career
 options. Just by the way they seem to be leaving and very open about
 accepting new offers, but not certain what they are wanting to do going
 on. I have been in the position of buyout and mergers from large
 companies before. It usually means that key employees get large bonuses
 to stick around and support transitioning. I as well had to decide to
 stick around or leave and have done both.

  From all the anouncments and changes I would suspect that there is a
 very good chance this could end up going either good or bad. If it is a
 larger company with a great deal of resources they may take powercode
 and greatly improve the product or stick it on the shelf and let it rot.
 I would hope it would be for the better.

 On 05/15/2015 10:31 AM, WaveDirect wrote:
  Well I heard they were gearing up for bigger things.  The reasons for
 them leaving were private and really don't matter as far as the product is
 concerned. They both were there for a while so maybe a change in life is
 good for them both.  Powercode is in a pretty good state at the moment but
 I just hope they can hire someone SOON.. a ringer who'll give Powercode the
 same care and consideration that Simon and Jacob gave it.
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 11:21:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!
 
  The good thing about it is there wont be any safe major updates for a
 while
  so everybody can focus on their summer projects, but with these two gone,
  there is no way the company vision wont change. With simon there it had
  become a beautiful usercentric product.
 
  On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 10:15 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org
 wrote:
 
  Yes the culling has begun...
 
  Not happy.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 10:28:10 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!
 
  Say aint so?
 
  From: CBB Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.netmailto:
  par...@cyberbroadband.net
  Reply-To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:
  af@afmug.com
  Date: Friday, May 15, 2015 at 10:20 AM
  To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:
 af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!
 
 
  hmmm, not sure i like what i am hearing
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Josh Luthmanmailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com
  Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 8:51 AM
  Subject: [AFMUG] Jacob too?!
 
 
  Wow...
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
 
 




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] powercode

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
not cool bro

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 9:27 AM, WaveDirect li...@wavedirect.org wrote:

 Yeah also deleting posts as well that were active.

 - Original Message -
 From: CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
 To: memb...@wispa.org, af@afmug.com
 Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:55:14 PM
 Subject: [AFMUG] powercode

 so i was trolling through the forum just now, it's one of a few places i
 like to hit several times a week to see whats been posted, done, etc.

 i've noticed king alex (as i've named him) seems to be a new guy and has
 also been trolling through the forum - even old posts - and answering a ton
 of questions.   so far, he seems to be really knowledgeable in sql.

 ...and knowledgeable in the database (since he's answering requests - both
 new and old - for how to get custom data out of the db)

 anyone know how long alex has worked there?




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Broken website wbmfg.com

2015-05-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i did it

On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 8:35 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 Yeah it's been that way for a while :(


 On Sunday, May 17, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

 Someone broke the Products menu =(

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] how much to worry about SSDP vulnerable customers

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I keep meaning to address all the shadowserver reports, we get like 5
different ones each day I think now.
I wonder if you could write some sort of email parser to pull in the
reports and take the data from the attachments to automatically generate
rules

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Cassidy B. Larson c...@infowest.com
wrote:

 If you don’t block it, or they don’t fix it, they’ll more than likely
 participate in a DDOS.  Plus, it could impact their service and they think
 it’s your fault :)
 I’ve seen a few of those types of DDOS this year.

 -c

  On May 18, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
 
  I finally started getting ShadowServer reports which are nice.
 
  One thing I notice is that about 5% of customers still have routers with
 SSDP (the discovery protocol for UPnP) exposed on the WAN side.  This
 despite the fact that I scanned the network earlier this year and sent
 notices to every single customer with this vulnerability.  It tells me very
 few did anything about it.  Most of these are DLink DIR-615 routers, and
 except for the very last version of that router, there is no FW update,
 their only solution is to disable UPnP in the menus.  Apparently that's too
 difficult for customers.
 
  My question:  is this serious enough to worry about?  Should I just wait
 for those DLink routers (or their owners) to die?
 
  I guess another solution would be to block ports 1900/2049/5783 but
 these might be legitimately in use as ephemeral ports and I don't like
 blocking high numbered ports.
 




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


[AFMUG] poercode loopback IP

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode

Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP
I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find
dummy interface

anybody come across this?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is anything
going to break

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake 
simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote:

 Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x.
 On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode

 Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP
 I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find
 dummy interface

 anybody come across this?

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
NX216v2
Im slowly onlining OSPF. I have one management subnet thats actually
flowing with OSPF. im a baby steps guy when its a pre drunken passed out in
bushes weekend week

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  Go for it. If you're going to 4.x, I would recommend 4.17, which was the
 last version in the 4.x series.

 But I have found that the 5.26 is a bit more robust in the OSPF department.

 What hardware is this on BTW?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 5/18/2015 12:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is anything
 going to break

 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake 
 simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote:

 Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x.
  On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode

  Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP
 I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find
 dummy interface

  anybody come across this?

  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
4.0.2 is the latest non beta, any problems with that?

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:55 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 NX216v2
 Im slowly onlining OSPF. I have one management subnet thats actually
 flowing with OSPF. im a baby steps guy when its a pre drunken passed out in
 bushes weekend week

 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  Go for it. If you're going to 4.x, I would recommend 4.17, which was the
 last version in the 4.x series.

 But I have found that the 5.26 is a bit more robust in the OSPF
 department.

 What hardware is this on BTW?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 5/18/2015 12:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is anything
 going to break

 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake 
 simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote:

 Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x.
  On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode

  Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP
 I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find
 dummy interface

  anybody come across this?

  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i wont tell

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Simon Westlake 
simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote:

 Btw, all this advice provided as is, I'm not an employee of Powercode etc
 etc
 On May 18, 2015 3:00 PM, Simon Westlake 
 simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote:

 I'd just do 4.0.4 honestly, not much changed in it and it just fixes a
 couple off minor bugs.
 On May 18, 2015 2:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 4.0.2 is the latest non beta, any problems with that?

 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:55 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 NX216v2
 Im slowly onlining OSPF. I have one management subnet thats actually
 flowing with OSPF. im a baby steps guy when its a pre drunken passed out in
 bushes weekend week

 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Go for it. If you're going to 4.x, I would recommend 4.17, which was
 the last version in the 4.x series.

 But I have found that the 5.26 is a bit more robust in the OSPF
 department.

 What hardware is this on BTW?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 5/18/2015 12:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is
 anything going to break

 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake 
 simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote:

 Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x.
  On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode

  Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP
 I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant
 find dummy interface

  anybody come across this?

  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
 your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the 
 team.




  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] poercode loopback IP

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
jesus henry crumbs! this OSPF business is like magic.

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  Oh you're right (read the subject line dummy)

 Sorry.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 5/18/2015 12:59 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:

 I think/assumed he was asking about a Powercode BMU rather than Mtik. :)
 On May 18, 2015 2:51 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  Go for it. If you're going to 4.x, I would recommend 4.17, which was the
 last version in the 4.x series.

 But I have found that the 5.26 is a bit more robust in the OSPF
 department.

 What hardware is this on BTW?

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 5/18/2015 12:48 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 can I go 3.3.10 to 4.0.2? or do I need to load in order, and is anything
 going to break

 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Simon Westlake 
 simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com wrote:

 Update to the 4.x firmware line, it was fixed late in 3.x.
  On May 18, 2015 2:40 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Since I dont expect much forum followup from powercode

  Im trying to set my OSPF router ID IP as a loopback UP
 I create the interface, but when I go to apply the IP is says cant find
 dummy interface

  anybody come across this?

  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik stable OS version

2015-05-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Do these things have a limit to the number of secondary IPs you can put on
an interface? I cant find it documented

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Stefan Englhardt s...@genias.net wrote:

 No problems with newer 6.x Version. We’ve 6.15 and 6.25 running on them.

 Seems 6.x tree matures. But it is MT. You never know ;-)).





 *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *That One Guy
 /sarcasm
 *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2015 16:51
 *An:* af@afmug.com
 *Betreff:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik stable OS version



 just got in an rb1100ahx2 What is the current most stable software version
 recomended on these?



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[AFMUG] using airview in the latest crome

2015-05-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
1. Open Chrome and browse to chrome://flags/#enable-npapi

2. Click the Enable NPAPI setting.


Then add the ip of the radio to java trusted sites

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Re: [AFMUG] Broken website wbmfg.com

2015-05-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Boy, that could have gone dark really quick, some acronyms should not be
used around degenerates like me

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:47 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   For an extra $5 per mount,  I will give you a COC stating that the
 mount has been tested and has been found to conform to safe and legal
 operation limits at the specific frequency and bandwith of operation.

 Be sure to include the power levels and modulation formats upon request.

  *From:* Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, May 18, 2015 2:43 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Broken website wbmfg.com

  I refuse to use a mount not certified for my intended frequency.

 On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   Fixed it.
 I had given three different tower mounts a frequency of 10.7-11.7 GHz.
 Database queries got confused...

  *From:* Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us
 *Sent:* Sunday, May 17, 2015 7:35 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Broken website wbmfg.com

 Yeah it's been that way for a while :(

 On Sunday, May 17, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Someone broke the Products menu =(

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373






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Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff

2015-05-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
the brown stands? One is a TV, there is a replacement tube we think is for
it, it looks like the tube has never been fired up, thats whats in the box
with the CBS logo, 17 hp4. The other is the flip out radio, and a turntable.

If I had time and space this stuff would be a hobby goldmine for me and the
kids. I have no time and even less space. We have a HAM guy who is a family
friend taking this to some radio show hes going to, hopefuly somebody has
use for it, I hate to see it end up in a landfill. Im swiping that motorola
logo though if it goes that route, thats just too cool to let go



On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   In the second picture, there are pair of interesting brown things.  Any
 idea what those are?

  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, May 11, 2015 6:01 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Some old stuff

  On May 11, 2015 6:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ano of this stuff have any nostalgic worth to you old timers




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Re: [AFMUG] Sales shout

2015-05-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
“With the exception of Jerrod, I dont like people in general”

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   Funny, I distill this whole post to the following:
 “I dont like people in general”

  *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:49 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Sales shout

  I mentioned this guy once before. But Im dealing with him again on a
 couple projects, I suspect the boss may screw him out of free labor (get
 the sales guy to do the quote, then price shop his product offering). So Im
 hoping somebody here will pick up on him and send some business his way.
 I hate sales guys, I cant stand them, I dont like people in general, but
 sales guys are the worst. This guy is the only sales guy I answer the phone
 for. the follow up calls are friendly, he remembers me and offers up
 relevant products if theyre on his radar. If I tell him im climbing up some
 grain leg, he says ok and ends the call if I have time to talk he finds out
 what projects are going on and what offerings he has to meet the need. Ive
 never seen longer than a 48 hour turnaround on a quote.
 We have made a total of 1 purchase in the three years almost Ive been
 dealing with him, yet he treats us like we are his number 1 customer (I
 hope to god we arent :-) )

 This is the guy, if your looking for some stuff, hit him up:
  jarrod.washing...@moonblink.com


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   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




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If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Cambium question

2015-05-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
thats concerning, a dragonwave reseller not using their own product, and
not knowing how to calculate path with vendor tools

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote:

 If everything is perfect, I would expect they'll do pretty close to 100
 meg... Cambium claims 220 aggregate, and I would think they should do full
 modulation with 30db dishes and LOS, but I'm far too lazy to try to
 actually calculate it at the moment.

 On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I was going to do that after my beer time.  I have link planner in office
 desktop. .might need updates ..Skukra

 Jaime Solorza
 On May 14, 2015 6:06 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net
 wrote:

 Hi Jaime,
 No need to be an Oracle.
 In the support section of Cambium site they provide a link planner...
 Use the tool, and take the guess work out  of the equation

 :)

 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 --

 *From: *Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, May 14, 2015 7:39:37 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium question

 Not my company. ..they are Dragonwave resellers ..saw one of their techs
 at gas station.   Told me he was installing gear manana and asked what I
 would expect at that distance.  Told him I would consult the oracle and get
 back at him
 So Oracle away..

 Jaime Solorza
 On May 14, 2015 5:32 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) 
 geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

 Gonna have to use a 40MHz channel. Good luck with that. Why not
 licensed?

 On 5/14/2015 6:30 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:


 Local WISP purchased a pair of Cambium epmp and 30db dishes for a 15
 mile link from bank building to water tank clean LOS.  What speeds can he
 expect from a 100 x 100 fiber feed at bank out to tank?  What is receive
 threshold of these radios? Thank you Cambi dudes...

 Jaime Solorza







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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


[AFMUG] DHCP option 212

2015-04-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
So there are routers requesting DHCP option 212, 6rd IPv6 Rapid Deployment.
Powercode doesnt send this out in its response, so I think this is what
causes our DHCP logs to fill up (the client just keeps requesting over and
over and over)

I have read in the past generic NULL type responses that can be given to
stop various requests from continuing repetitively

Is anyone aware of what would need to be in the response to basically tell
it to shut up, but not impact functionality?

this is a packet capture showing the 212 option being requested but not
delivered:


01:39:38.939174 00:0d:b9:07:c6:7c  00:90:0b:2f:89:af, ethertype IPv4
(0x0800), length 342: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto:
UDP (17), length: 328) 10.0.50.185.68  BLANKED.67: BOOTP/DHCP, Request
from c8:d7:19:78:70:e4, length 300, xid 0xc3746f0a, secs 8724, Flags [ none
]
Client-IP 10.0.50.185
Client-Ethernet-Address c8:d7:19:78:70:e4
Vendor-rfc1048 Extensions
Magic Cookie 0x63825363
DHCP-Message Option 53, length 1: Request
Hostname Option 12, length 15: *
Parameter-Request Option 55, length 5:
Subnet-Mask, Default-Gateway, Domain-Name, Domain-Name-Server
*Option 212*
Client-ID Option 61, length 7: ether c8:d7:19:78:70:e4



01:39:38.950040 00:90:0b:2f:89:af  00:0d:b9:07:c6:7c, ethertype IPv4
(0x0800), length 342: (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 37727, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: UDP (17), length: 328) 10.6.0.29.67  10.0.50.185.68: BOOTP/DHCP,
Reply, length 300, xid 0xc3746f0a, secs 8724, Flags [ none ]
Client-IP 10.0.50.185
Your-IP 10.0.50.185
Client-Ethernet-Address c8:d7:19:78:70:e4
Vendor-rfc1048 Extensions
Magic Cookie 0x63825363
DHCP-Message Option 53, length 1: ACK
Server-ID Option 54, length 4: BLANKED
Lease-Time Option 51, length 4: 86400
Subnet-Mask Option 1, length 4: 255.255.255.0
Default-Gateway Option 3, length 4: 10.0.50.1
Domain-Name-Server Option 6, length 8: 208.67.222.222,208.67.220.220

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Re: [AFMUG] Nokia buys Alcatel-Lucent

2015-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
didnt microsoft buy nokia?

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Look for the dark horse .   The deep pockets source

 Jaime Solorza
 On Apr 15, 2015 7:31 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:


 http://www.telecomramblings.com/2015/04/the-smoke-clears-and-nokia-to-buy-alcatel-lucent/



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL





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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers

2015-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
pppoe has been discussed quite often as a solution for limited IP space.
Could someone give a breakdown of the required components from the edge of
the network to the customer and the required topology?
My understanding, which is probably wrong, is a client on the network
connects, the device gets an IP, normally DHCP that can communicate all the
way back to the pppoe server (what exactly is this)
The credentials are provided and a pppoe session is established, all
traffic flows through the pppoe tunnel and exits at the edge of the network
the tunnel is essentially a vpn tunnel? there are overheads that need to be
accounted for?
Where is the public IP actually at? is it assigned as essentially a /32 at
the customer end of the tunnel?

How does the client device know where the pppoe server is, is this provided
in the DHCP response?

I know my understanding of this is probably totally way off, but I would
love to know more, accurately

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
li...@packetflux.com wrote:

 Which is why we played with it.  In the end, it seemed that the amount of
 support hassles with pppoe wasn't worth the hassle.   But, this was a while
 ago and pppoe has grown up a lot, so my opinion is probably not valid
 anymore.
 On Apr 15, 2015 5:27 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 There are reasons to have PPPoE other than IP address assignment.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com
 *To: *af af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 3:02:50 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Providing public routed IPs to customers


 (WISP HAT ON)

 We have a subnet (or a couple of subnets, as sites have grown) at each
 tower, and an public IP statically assigned to each customer.  The radio
 gets a managment address out of 172.[16-31].x.x which corresponds to the
 public IP address.

 No DHCP anywhere, no PPPoE.

 But again, we have an /18 and a /19 assigned to us from back before NAT
 really existed and DHCP implementations from the early '90's kinda
 sucked.   We've played with PPPoE and DHCP, but kinda have been spoiled by
 the simplicity and reliability of a statically numbered network.

 -forrest

 On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

 For those of you currently providing public/routed ips to customers?
 What is your topology like and delivery method?

 Looking at doing a few things, have considered a few options, and wanted
 to look out there and see what other people are doing.

 Thanks

 --
 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTS
 www.spitwspots.com




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Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i thought they were going for a retro radio feel


On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:29 PM, Matt Hardy m...@ubnt.com wrote:

 Ha, I had the same thought ;)

 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

  It's Krispy Kreme!

 Gino A. Villarini
 @gvillarini



 On Apr 15, 2015, at 1:27 PM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

  Just want to point something out real quick...

 A lot of people on this and other lists talk about JAB like they are some
 kind of massive, rolling behemoth with a gazillion subscribers and
 trillions in the bank. The kind of place that has it's own militarized
 security forces, Ferrari's for interns, crispy creme every morning, and
 hands out Sam Adams during lunch.

 Okay, maybe not that extreme, but anyway...

 To put things in perspective, if you were to talk to anybody who works at
 an actually large ISP or Carrier for that matter, JAB is tiny.

 JAB is literally the size, speaking purely by number of customers, that
 many ISPs have in a few mile radius.

 I understand that they cover a fairly large area, and that some
 manufacturers in our industry will even  bend the knee  to get their
 business... And maybe rightfully so...

 But yeah, 250,000-350,000 sub's to many ISPs is a tiny drop in the bucket.

 On April 15, 2015 7:06:15 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.risebroadband.net/
 
 T6 was on there too I think. Still no sign of Digis. I'm wondering if
 they have decided to keep some of the brands.
 
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of
 their
  companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they
 don't
  need no stinkin' coverage maps!
 
  On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
 wrote:
 
  Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you
 can't
  even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of
 those
  either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do
 this?
  Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web
 and
  people outside of your community may come across it. I highly
 encourage all
  of you to describe where you provide service, and not just a county
 name,
  because I'm sure every county is unique, right?
 
  On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
 
  http://www.riseiscoming.com/
 
  Hide your heart, girl.
 
 
 
 

 --
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
 --
 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.





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Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid

2015-04-15 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
same deal here, it was explained to me the cheap cert we have and you
probably do to is only for 443, would need a different type of cert, since
those two components are only for staff use, its not relevant to us,

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK, will do

 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 No problems at all.  Give me a ring in the am if you need help.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 15, 2015 9:10 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've spoken with GoDaddy support (zero help) and have changed everything
 that I can think of.  Still tinkering...I am at a loss as to why this isn't
 working.  Is it safe to assume that yours works fine on Android Josh?  Did
 you use the recommended gd_bundle-g2-g1.crt for your intermediate?  Edited
 in the ssl.conf under SSLCertificateChainFile ?

 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Josh knows my issue.  I am using Powercode.  It fails on 444 and 447
 and on the customer portal (no port)

 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:44 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 I've never heard of anything using 447, but I'm not a PowerCode user.

 When did we start assuming Jeremy's putting the cert into PowerCode?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:42:28 PM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid

 Mobile on POWERCODE is a different port. To my knowledge, even
 reactive design websites for mobile still follow normal :443 conventions
 for SSL

 Josh Reynolds
 CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com

 On 04/15/2015 04:30 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

 Mobile is a different port?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

  --
 *From: *Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:10:51 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SSL Intermdiate cert - Android CA invalid

 Did you put it in the 447 statement?  Mobile is a different port.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Apr 15, 2015 8:03 PM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 We are using Godaddy and have the cert and intermediate cert
 installed.  All of the online SSL checking tools show everything as
 normal.  However, Android will not accept the cert as valid.  I have read
 that it is because their SSL stack is thinner and doesn't follow the 
 chain
 through the intermediate cert in order to verify the CA.  Has anyone else
 dealt with this and found a resolution?










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Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

2015-04-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
haha, thats what I do when I get tired of talking to the chatty customer
about how we compare to satellite and what not. Once they hear Terrestrial
Microwave They shut up, I think they envision ET in the radar range

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 9:35 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
wrote:

  They should have thrown in



 Terrestrial

 Microwave



 That worked really well for us in terms of explaining the difference
 between satellite and a WISP.  Might as well told them the specific
 frequency they were on and the how the s/n affects their CCQ%.



 Rory







 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:32 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming



 You’ve got to admire their ability to string 5 adjectives together
 though.  Only 1 of which people understand.  It’s



 - large

 - digital

 - fixed

 - broadband

 - wireless



 OK, all Americans understand “large”.  The others, not so much, although
 that won’t stop them from having opinions.



 *From:* Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com

 *Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:24 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming



 Does calling things digital still impress anybody?

 My hands have 10 digitsSo I think I could call them digital.  If I use
 them to hold a hammer, then I have a digital hammer.
 I would be so awesome at marketing.

  On 4/16/2015 8:49 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:

 Interesting – 175,000 subscribers according to their site and “largest
 digital fixed broadband wireless in the nation”…



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:12 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming



 They're a WISP consolidator that has purchased hundreds of WISPs over the
 years.

 http://www.jabbroadband.com/coverage-area/



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL


   --

 *From: *Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Thursday, April 16, 2015 5:23:45 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming

 Maybe it’s because I live in Canada … but who is JAB?  Never heard of them
 so curious….



 250-350k subs is “mid sized” in the ISP world from my viewpoint/opinion



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Jeremy
 *Sent:* Wednesday, April 15, 2015 9:31 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Rise is Coming



 They are definitely small timejust look at that logo and wood
 background.  They are working hard to appear like they are the small local
 provider.  Just the same folks in our community



 Rise Broadband shares the same values as you. We’re right around the
 corner, up the street and down the road a ways.



 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com
 wrote:

 Just want to point something out real quick...

 A lot of people on this and other lists talk about JAB like they are some
 kind of massive, rolling behemoth with a gazillion subscribers and
 trillions in the bank. The kind of place that has it's own militarized
 security forces, Ferrari's for interns, crispy creme every morning, and
 hands out Sam Adams during lunch.

 Okay, maybe not that extreme, but anyway...

 To put things in perspective, if you were to talk to anybody who works at
 an actually large ISP or Carrier for that matter, JAB is tiny.

 JAB is literally the size, speaking purely by number of customers, that
 many ISPs have in a few mile radius.

 I understand that they cover a fairly large area, and that some
 manufacturers in our industry will even  bend the knee  to get their
 business... And maybe rightfully so...

 But yeah, 250,000-350,000 sub's to many ISPs is a tiny drop in the bucket.

 On April 15, 2015 7:06:15 AM AKDT, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.risebroadband.net/
 
 T6 was on there too I think. Still no sign of Digis. I'm wondering if
 they have decided to keep some of the brands.
 
 On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 

  This is Jab. This is the new name that Jab is consolidating all of
 their
  companies under. They have over a quarter million customers, they
 don't
  need no stinkin' coverage maps!
 
  On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Cameron Crum cc...@wispmon.com
 wrote:
 
  Another website that doesn't tell where it is available, and you
 can't
  even figure it out based on a contact address as there isn't one of
 those
  either, or a phone number, or even email address. Why do wisps do
 this?
  Believe it or not, your web site is actually on the World Wide Web
 and
  people outside of your community may come across it. I highly
 encourage all
  of 

[AFMUG] ptp650 parabolic only licenses

2015-04-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
what is this, when we did our last key generation i dont recall this being
one of the selections

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 parabolic only licenses

2015-04-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
hahaha, when you have installation tones turned on, these play that hello
mutha helo fatha greetings from camp song... brilliant

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 what is this, when we did our last key generation i dont recall this being
 one of the selections

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] ptp650 parabolic only licenses

2015-04-16 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
That cracks me up, I guess there is at least one engineer at cambium who is
not a total douchebag

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjiWS__Mp0 ?


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:01 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 hahaha, when you have installation tones turned on, these play that hello
 mutha helo fatha greetings from camp song... brilliant

 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:42 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 what is this, when we did our last key generation i dont recall this
 being one of the selections

 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] windmill towers

2015-04-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We do, just like anything else if it's unstable don't climb it
On Apr 12, 2015 10:48 PM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 I've mounted CPE on two, not quite that tall though. Maybe 35-40ft. They
 were angle iron with bolt steps. Fairly sturdy, steps slightly questionable
 but got the customer online. Climbed with harness like any other tower of
 course.

 On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 Has anyone mounted a dish on a customer's old windmill tower?  I have
 always assumed there is no way to determine they are safe to climb (and
 that they probably aren't).  This particular one is pretty tall and seems
 to have a ladder of sorts up one side.





[AFMUG] af24 pin info

2015-04-13 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I see in one of our af24 v 2.2 radios
DATA Pair 0 (Pins 1,2):24 dB SNR
DATA Pair 1 (Pins 3,6):29 dB SNR
DATA Pair 2 (Pins 4,5):27 dB SNR
DATA Pair 3 (Pins 7,8):29 dB SNR

All the res of our radios show 28/29. I am not seeing any issues on this
one and am tempted to leave it alone, there is a mid point patch panel on
about 200 foot of cable


Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-04-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
messing with this it looks like I can get it to a pretty restricted view. I
just mainly want to not lose remote access to the device or have them doing
something stupid like easily changing the mac, if they mess up anything
else we just will load in a default configuration file. the guys who will
poke around were going to poke around anyway, they usually have their own
router

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 12:17 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I think your issue will be the sledgehammer like permissions in the
 groups. They are pretty wide ranging. You can prohibit winbox, but for
 things like filter rules and just about anything they would require write
 privileges. Write is write without the ability to prevent someone from
 writing all kinds of things you would rather they not.

 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
 thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can I use skins to give customers access in a limited capacity, create a
 user account called customer or whatever and a customer group that has
 limited access like no winbox, etc. Let them manage their wireless,
 internal subnets, port forwards, whatever? What I saw glancing at the
 metarouter thing seems like its a bigger deal than I wanted to get into,
 but if I could create a generic skin for the customer login to load in each
 one, that would be slick

 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

 How would you rate the boxes handling traffic and uptime in general?
 Just curious…



 Thanks,

 Paul





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:32 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations



 Steve…. Do you trust me?   Mikrotik all the way, just DO  IT!  …
 routerboard.com has all the models.



 slicker than owl-snot on linoleum floor JOne of the best things we
 ever did for our network



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *That One Guy
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:27 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations



 After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the
 right fit for our network and budget.



 I dont fully understand the licensing tiers



 Is there a sizing chart on these?



 Is the interface similar between the router models and the switch
 models? Are the mikrotik switches comparable to the HP procurve in
 reliability?



 It would be the bees knees to see out network more universal as far as
 management interfaces go, we have three purposes for routers:



 our upstream routers, which we have 2, will ultimately be running OSPF
 internally and BGP externally (current thought) 200mbps-1gbps projected
 need through the next couple of years.



 Our network/POP routers ranging from 1 customer at a POP to 150



 A residential solution comparable to the UBNT AirRouters (1-25mbps rate
 plans) wifi capable.



 If the switches have similar interfaces, we would look toward replacing
 a combination of UBNT toughswitch POE, and a variety of HP procurves from
 1810G to 2510G and their other POE models.







 I note alot of discussion regarding MT ethernet negotiation flakiness,
 how much of an impact does this present? Right now we have imagestream and
 fortigate on the network, and have zero issues with that.





 The decision to go toward mikrotik is primarily based on cost and
 community support availability within the industry. (this consideration has
 alot to do with a single point of administrative failure in only having one
 person, me, training to design, maintain, support, and grow the network, in
 the event i became absent from the picture) The winbox interface and
 feature availability within was also a primary consideration for support
 staff.



 I would like to her from people entrenched in MT who love/hate it,
 anybody who turned their back on it, and anybody who moved toward it.






 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




 --
 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

2015-04-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i love southern folk, everything to them is itty bitty, like I got hit by
this itty bitty semi truck one day

On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net
wrote:

  At least he was polite. I've had a few lately call after hours and
 weekends with attitudes.

 I keep a list. I'll give someone a few breaks, but if they're abusive on
 the phone they get exactly two strikes.




 - Original Message -
 *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:52 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834


 lol :)


 - Original Message -
 *From:* Tyler Treat tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:31 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834

 And you say I'm south!

 ___
 Mangled by my iPhone.
 ___

 Tyler Treat
 Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.

 tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
 ___


 On Apr 18, 2015, at 4:20 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  I understood, Yes, my name is...  Alabama. [understood most of the
 rest].



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 --
 *From: *CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
 *To: *af@afmug.com, memb...@wispa.org
 *Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:30:19 PM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] tales from the voicemail - episode 495839405834


 You know, i don't know if i should feel sorry for this guy or not.

 I noticed on our facebook page he's left about 10 messages - including a
 hey guys, i fixed it myself

 i mean, this is the poster child for i can not live without my internet
 for .210394234 seconds






-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] hello world

2015-04-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
dont lie to us again

On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Brandon Yuchasz li...@gogebicrange.net
wrote:

 Okay never mind.





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
 *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:06 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] hello world



 Okay just a test. I can respond to email on the list but for some reason
 cant post new ones.






-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations

2015-04-17 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Can I use skins to give customers access in a limited capacity, create a
user account called customer or whatever and a customer group that has
limited access like no winbox, etc. Let them manage their wireless,
internal subnets, port forwards, whatever? What I saw glancing at the
metarouter thing seems like its a bigger deal than I wanted to get into,
but if I could create a generic skin for the customer login to load in each
one, that would be slick

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:28 AM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:

 How would you rate the boxes handling traffic and uptime in general?  Just
 curious…



 Thanks,

 Paul





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:32 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations



 Steve…. Do you trust me?   Mikrotik all the way, just DO  IT!  …
 routerboard.com has all the models.



 slicker than owl-snot on linoleum floor JOne of the best things we
 ever did for our network



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *That One Guy
 *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2015 3:27 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] Mikrotik Pros/Cons and recomendations



 After poking around at many different brands, it seems Mikrotik is the
 right fit for our network and budget.



 I dont fully understand the licensing tiers



 Is there a sizing chart on these?



 Is the interface similar between the router models and the switch models?
 Are the mikrotik switches comparable to the HP procurve in reliability?



 It would be the bees knees to see out network more universal as far as
 management interfaces go, we have three purposes for routers:



 our upstream routers, which we have 2, will ultimately be running OSPF
 internally and BGP externally (current thought) 200mbps-1gbps projected
 need through the next couple of years.



 Our network/POP routers ranging from 1 customer at a POP to 150



 A residential solution comparable to the UBNT AirRouters (1-25mbps rate
 plans) wifi capable.



 If the switches have similar interfaces, we would look toward replacing a
 combination of UBNT toughswitch POE, and a variety of HP procurves from
 1810G to 2510G and their other POE models.







 I note alot of discussion regarding MT ethernet negotiation flakiness, how
 much of an impact does this present? Right now we have imagestream and
 fortigate on the network, and have zero issues with that.





 The decision to go toward mikrotik is primarily based on cost and
 community support availability within the industry. (this consideration has
 alot to do with a single point of administrative failure in only having one
 person, me, training to design, maintain, support, and grow the network, in
 the event i became absent from the picture) The winbox interface and
 feature availability within was also a primary consideration for support
 staff.



 I would like to her from people entrenched in MT who love/hate it, anybody
 who turned their back on it, and anybody who moved toward it.






 --

 If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
 as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.




-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] VoIP

2015-04-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Jive, fortivoice (they sell the trunks too) broadvox sold, there are a ton
of inexpensive providers especially when compared to copper voice lines
On Apr 6, 2015 1:33 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

 You call up you local telephone company and ask for a sip trunk...

 -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:30 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP

 I expect there to be some cost, but these companies that want a fortune
 for a small amount of minutes are ridiculous. I'm okay with paying some
 amount for unlimited, but not a small amount per minute.

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield

  On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 If you want to place calls to/from the PSTN and not pay a dime, you're
 dreaming.

 -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield
 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 1:19 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] VoIP

 I've played a bit with asterisk in the past along with similar products.
 I'm not really all that familiar with VoIP solutions or configuration, but
 if like to be. I want to start playing around with something to really
 familiarize myself with it.

 The problem is that all I've seen is solutions where I'd have to pay for
 my SIP trunk or for some kind of service. Is it possible to get a fully
 functional VoIP solution using basic hardware for nothing? I can host my
 own SIP trunk I'm sure, but how do I get my phones to route to other phones
 and my number coming in to route to my phone system? Am I in a dream world,
 or is this actually possible?

 Thank you,
 Brett A Mansfield





[AFMUG] PTP650 AES Key serial numbers?

2015-04-06 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We were contracted to do some radio upgrades
They wanted the radio serial numbers/mac addresses for some AES keys for
ptp650
The entitlement certificate fromt he vendors dont have matching serial
numbers to the radios. Im suspecting the serial numbers on the certs are
the certificate serial and not the radio serial number.

Itf I recall we take the access key to the support site and put in the key
and the mac and it generates the actual license key. Up until that point
the entitlement is tied to any piece of hardware. Is this correct, or do I
need to go climb and look at stickers for serial numbers?

On that same note, the free key to open all of 5ghz up, do I need to apply
that before the AES key and the throughput upgrade keys? what happens if I
put in the AES and throughput keys, then generate a full 5ghz key, will it
reset the radios?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


[AFMUG] current state of ubnt snmp?

2015-04-07 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
most of our ubnt crap sits on 5.5.10, of course the powercode real time
monitors dont work, halk the existing graphs arent working
trying to figure out from the ubnt forums where snmp stands is like
screwing a piranha.

pretty much everything thats not airfiber  we have is M series. Is there a
list of functional OIDs for 5.5.10?

isnt 5.6 beta supposed to have some mibs? is there a stable enough beta?

what year is this?

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] current state of ubnt snmp?

2015-04-07 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
what release of 5.6?

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 5:01 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  The existing SNMP stack on 5.5.10 works as long as you *DON'T TOUCH* the
 OIDs that don't work. Touch any of the non-functional OIDs and the SNMP
 query will come back null. The OIDs that do work (and I haven't explored
 extensively) are:

 traffic
 uptime
 signal level
 data rate
 load average
 noise floor (but it's a lie)

 We also have 5.6 running on exactly one subscriber radio. It provides many
 more OIDs that all seem to work. It's been running fine for about 2 months
 with no apparent problems. Note that all the OIDs are different between
 5.5.10 and 5.6.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 4/7/2015 2:47 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

 most of our ubnt crap sits on 5.5.10, of course the powercode real time
 monitors dont work, halk the existing graphs arent working
 trying to figure out from the ubnt forums where snmp stands is like
 screwing a piranha.

  pretty much everything thats not airfiber  we have is M series. Is there
 a list of functional OIDs for 5.5.10?

  isnt 5.6 beta supposed to have some mibs? is there a stable enough beta?

  what year is this?

  --
   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
 team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.





-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of WISPS

2015-04-05 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I like this observium guy
On Apr 4, 2015 5:53 PM, Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net wrote:

 Until I see evidence to the contrary (just did a svn up and no wisp gear
 has been removed...) I'm treating that entire exchange as the internet
 equivalent of some drunk (Smeg) walking up to you(Adam) in the bar and
 grabbing your arm and saying have your wife dance with me. You're like,
 that's her choice and she says no. Repeating as the night goes on.
 Eventually maybe you snap, say some unkind things because you want the
 drunk to get lost and he just isn't taking the hint.

 That wasn't the first IRC exchange between them and others. Adam's
 volatility is well known but in this case I believe he was sorely provoked.
 We've all experienced the client from hell. Thing is, maybe some of us are
 the client from hell.

 What happened in IRC after may help understand where he is coming from...
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:18:33] While I completely understand
 that you're the author and shit, and what you say goes. period... wasn't
 that a bit of an overreaction?
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:18:56] BenA: you have no fucking
 idea
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:05] I don't, it's true.
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:06] these people will not take
 no for an answer
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:07] they go on
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:08] and on
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:09] and on
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:10] and on
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:20] Couldn't you just, like, look
 away from the screen?
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:23] BUT MUH SUPPORT, MILLIONS
 OF USERS, PLZ
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:32] couldn't you?
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:38] Ask him if he wants to pay.
  if he doesn't, ignore?
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:19:46] *oh, they all say they
 want to pay*
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:19:49] Ah.
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:10] *but when they realise it
 costs more than $5...*
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:20:15] Right.
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:31] the wireless industry seems
 to be rammed full of overly entitled douches
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:48] whot hink it's totally
 justified that we support evey bit of shitty kit they have
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:20:51] fucking wireless vendors
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:00] every new MODEL they
 release has to come with an entirely new set of mibs
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:04] it's ridiculous
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:21:11] You're a victim of your own
 success.
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:23] and none of these people
 will ever listen when you tell them
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:32] adn they just keep coming
 back and coming back
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:35] *he's asked here a few
 times*
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:40] *and we've had these
 conversations on the mailing list*
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:21:44] *and god knows what else*
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:02] and you'd think
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:03] when someone says
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:07] fuck off, it's not going
 to happen
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:22:13] you'd realise that was,
 well, that
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:22:53] I guess he really sees the
 advantages of Observium, and is keen for you to have further market
 penetration... over your express wishes (-:
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:06] no, he's keen to have his
 own pet hardware supported
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:23:12] That too.
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:21] we already support 4
 different families of cambium kit
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:28] but apparently that doesn't
 include the devices he has
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:23:44] and i'm sure if i checked,
 we'd only have like 2-3 users using cambium kit
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:24:52] You could spend a few dozen
 man months of eye-straining, back-breaking labour adding in some kind of
 horribly complex and fucked up extensible API for 3rd party MIBs, and then
 telling people they can add whatever the fuck support/devices they like,
 but there's no support for it.
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:06] or not
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:25:14] Party-pooper.
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] BenA [09:25:39] And people said you were a
 nice guy.
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:46] rarely
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:25:55] and even more rarely in
 here \o/
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:26:49] *we have 3 cambium ptp400
 devices and 5 cambium ptp800 devices*
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] @adama [09:27:00] *in our entire userbase*
 [2015-04-04T01:39:59-0500] 

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