Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities

2016-10-19 Thread Chuck McCown
I have heard of desired items being purchased, expensed, and show up missing...

From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 7:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] day labor legalities


NOT looking to skirt the system

I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the other 
day when i brought my dad.

What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table, but 
these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600 bucks 
theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway?

I  have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a couple 
days a week

For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching spools 
stands
-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities

2016-10-19 Thread Daniel White
Even easier to COY and send one regardless.  Especially if you’re talking about 
a few people.



In past jobs if I needed temp labor I used temp labor agencies so I didn’t have 
to worry about anything.  Yes you pay more, but there is no paperwork or legal 
headache to worry about.



Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman
Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2016 5:58 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities



That is $600 a year, not am occurrence I think. Have them fill out the form and 
file and send it if they exceed it.



On Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 11:19 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

i just need the guys, the boss said hed pay them, id prefer to not get my boss 
put in jail or the hammer of the irs cause i did something wrong. there is 
always discussion here of the definition of employees and rules on 
subcontractors or whatever but usually more toward long term folks.



On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Maybe you could outsource all the nasty employer stuff to a PEO?



 Or tell them you’re a startup, and pay them in stock options. 




From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] day labor legalities






NOT looking to skirt the system



I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the other 
day when i brought my dad.



What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table, but 
these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600 bucks 
theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway?



I  have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a couple 
days a week



For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching spools 
stands

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part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.







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Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities

2016-10-19 Thread Lewis Bergman
That is $600 a year, not am occurrence I think. Have them fill out the form
and file and send it if they exceed it.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016, 11:19 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i just need the guys, the boss said hed pay them, id prefer to not get my
> boss put in jail or the hammer of the irs cause i did something wrong.
> there is always discussion here of the definition of employees and rules on
> subcontractors or whatever but usually more toward long term folks.
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
> Maybe you could outsource all the nasty employer stuff to a PEO?
>
>
>
>  Or tell them you’re a startup, and pay them in stock options.
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] day labor legalities
>
>
>
>
> NOT looking to skirt the system
>
>
>
> I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the
> other day when i brought my dad.
>
>
>
> What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table,
> but these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600
> bucks theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway?
>
>
>
> I  have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a
> couple days a week
>
>
>
> For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching
> spools stands
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>


Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities

2016-10-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i just need the guys, the boss said hed pay them, id prefer to not get my
boss put in jail or the hammer of the irs cause i did something wrong.
there is always discussion here of the definition of employees and rules on
subcontractors or whatever but usually more toward long term folks.

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 10:24 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Maybe you could outsource all the nasty employer stuff to a PEO?
>
>
>
>  Or tell them you’re a startup, and pay them in stock options.
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
> /sarcasm
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:37 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] day labor legalities
>
>
>
>
> NOT looking to skirt the system
>
>
>
> I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the
> other day when i brought my dad.
>
>
>
> What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table,
> but these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600
> bucks theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway?
>
>
>
> I  have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a
> couple days a week
>
>
>
> For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching
> spools stands
>
> --
>
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.


Re: [AFMUG] day labor legalities

2016-10-18 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe you could outsource all the nasty employer stuff to a PEO?

 

 Or tell them you’re a startup, and pay them in stock options. 


 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 8:37 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] day labor legalities

 




NOT looking to skirt the system

 

I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the other 
day when i brought my dad.

 

What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table, but 
these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600 bucks 
theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway?

 

I  have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a couple 
days a week

 

For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching spools 
stands

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.



[AFMUG] day labor legalities

2016-10-18 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
NOT looking to skirt the system

I got the ok to use some labor for project work as i need it. Like the
other day when i brought my dad.

What are the actual rules, we arent looking to cash money under the table,
but these arent going to be full, or even part time employees, over 600
bucks theyll 1099 but should that just be done anyway?

I  have a few different people I will use, and probably not more than a
couple days a week

For the most part these people will be tying stuff to ropes and watching
spools stands
-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.