Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-18 Thread Paul Stewart
all of their Canadian POP’s out)… From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Keefe John Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2016 9:39 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing They have for a very long time between their POPS. On 4/13/2016 8:37 PM, Paul Stewart

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-13 Thread Paul Stewart
: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing Luckily in our area, there are diverse routes to the POP we are in. I'm not positive about dual routers but I know there is enough traffic running through our POP that I assume they have two now since there are diverse routes to other POPs. On Mon

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-13 Thread Paul Stewart
] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing If you've physically laid eyes on an HE POP in a non major city, another issue is they frequently deploy with 1 router, not a redundant core pair. On Apr 11, 2016 5:22

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-13 Thread Keefe John
: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing There is more to that $0.22/meg, though, than is advertised. A lack of BGP communities is a big one as is a high chance of congested peering. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> <https://www.facebook.com/ICS

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-13 Thread Josh Reynolds
; *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 8:23 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing > > > > There is more to that $0.22/meg, though, than is advertised. A lack of BGP > communities is a big one as is a high chance of congested peering. > &g

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Since when does HE do wavelength or ethernet transport? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:23 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing There is more to that $0.22/meg, though, than is advertised

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Darin Steffl
Luckily in our area, there are diverse routes to the POP we are in. I'm not positive about dual routers but I know there is enough traffic running through our POP that I assume they have two now since there are diverse routes to other POPs. On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Eric Kuhnke

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Agreed, just something to be aware of. And never, ever singlehome to HE or Cogent. I was typing on my phone so I didn't want to spend a lot of time, but another detail in addition to the single router is non diversity of routes. There's places where HE has a router and will sell IP transit in a

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/11/16 10:13, Eric Kuhnke wrote: If you've physically laid eyes on an HE POP in a non major city, another issue is they frequently deploy with 1 router, not a redundant core pair. Not really an "issue" as much as what it's worth to do or what you get at a certain price point. ~Seth

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If you've physically laid eyes on an HE POP in a non major city, another issue is they frequently deploy with 1 router, not a redundant core pair. On Apr 11, 2016 5:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:There is more to that $0.22/meg, though, than is advertised. A lack of BGP communities

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Darin Steffl
: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > -- > > *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, April 11, 2016 10:44:31 AM >

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
t; Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing > 1700 foot... > From: Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:40 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing > the 1700 ft build to their hand hole or the 15 mile build to the datacenter ? > :)

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 10:37:35 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing > Why don’t you build it? > From: Darin Steffl > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:22 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
You get some of that back every time they hook a customer along the 1700 feet of fiber you paid to install, right? j/k From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 9:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing Why don’t you build it? From: Darin Steffl Sent

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Josh Reynolds
future, it will be free. You just pay the fixed port >> charge which will be based on the size of the pipe. I would hope you would >> see less than $2500. >> >> *From:* Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, April 10, 2016 11:11 PM >

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Chuck McCown
1700 foot... From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing the 1700 ft build to their hand hole or the 15 mile build to the datacenter ? :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 3

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
1, 2016 10:16:53 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing > I have a Windstream Fiber HUB and ATT fiber in my office and Im lucky to see > $8000 for that.. > On 04/11/2016 08:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> More and more, I am seeing a port charge and a very low

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Why don’t you build it? From: Darin Steffl Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing Josh and Mike, I'm not looking for internet service. We already purchase from HE and are happy with pricing and performance. I'm looking

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 10:33:51 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing >>> I'm looking at ballpark transport pricing for 10G wave or ethernet to a > >> datacenter... > There is no

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 10:22:20 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 9:22:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing Josh and Mike, I'm not looking for internet service. We already purchase from HE and are hap

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Darin Steffl
ste...@mnwifi.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, April 10, 2016 11:11 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing > > Hey guys, > > If we have fiber from 2-3 different providers within 2,500 feet of us, > what is a good price range for 10G pricing

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread David
gt; *Subject:* [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing Hey guys, If we have fiber from 2-3 different providers within 2,500 feet of us, what is a good price range for 10G pricing for 3-5 year terms? I'm told I should be seeing $2,500 or less for 10G wave or ethernet transport to an on-net datacent

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Chuck McCown
than $2500. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 11:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing Hey guys, If we have fiber from 2-3 different providers within 2,500 feet of us, what is a good price range for 10G pricing for 3-5 year terms? I'm told I

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Erich Kaiser
/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, April 11, 2016 1

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Mike Hammett
;Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:40:53 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing HE is advertising $0.22/MB for 10G currently, but I don't know how log that contract is. I don't like doing contracts for more than 2 y

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:11:16 AM Subject: [AFMUG] 10G

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-10 Thread Josh Reynolds
HE is advertising $0.22/MB for 10G currently, but I don't know how log that contract is. I don't like doing contracts for more than 2 years anymore. I think our current providers are between 0.36/Mb and 0.42/Mb On Apr 11, 2016 12:11 AM, "Darin Steffl" wrote: > Hey

Re: [AFMUG] 10G Wave or Ethernet Pricing

2016-04-10 Thread Trey Scarborough
If the Fiber is not already in your building you might not see that kind of price. This is all dependent on where the closest access point is to you. Even if your only 2500 feet from the fiber it could be another 2500 feet to the closest access point. This could make the cost for the drop very