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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Yes, there is temp compensation, but not that important to me with the sites
we're putting it in. The load is isolated from the batteries, which is why it
can do multi-stage charging (recovery/boost/float). However, based on the
literatur
to:af@afmug.com>>
Date: Monday, January 12, 2015 at 9:42 AM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
My thoughts as well, Eltek is pretty solid stuff. Minipack setups can be found
surplus for around $1200 - at least last
;>
>> I wish everything would happily run on 29 volts like the Cambium stuff.
>>
>> Phoenix Contact has some DIN rail UPS gear that puts out regulated 24V
>> when on commercial power, but raw battery voltage when on batteries. So
>> what good is that?
>>
>>
uld happily run on 29 volts like the Cambium stuff.
>
> Phoenix Contact has some DIN rail UPS gear that puts out regulated 24V
> when on commercial power, but raw battery voltage when on batteries. So
> what good is that?
>
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January
r that puts out regulated 24V
when on commercial power, but raw battery voltage when on batteries.
So what good is that?
*From:* Bill Prince <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 07, 2015 9:51 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
for the JAB price.
*From:* Jason McKemie <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, January 11, 2015 11:06 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Crap, how well equipped is that? That's beyond even what you can get
a reasonably
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Crap, how well equipped is that? That's beyond even what you can get a
reasonably decked out Eltek Minipack shelf for these days, not seeing how they
could be worth that much. Must be mainly targeting those using OPM.
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 8:05 PM, Gino Vill
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>> Gino A. Villarini
>> President
>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> www.aeronetpr.com
>> @aeronetpr
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Jeremy
>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
>> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2015 at
afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Anyone ever tried the Sentinel systems?
http://gfspower.com.au/products/dc-power-systems/sentinel-power-system/
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Bill Prince
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@afmug.com"
> Date: Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:32 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
>
> Anyone ever tried the Sentinel systems?
> http://gfspower.com.au/products/dc-power-systems/sentinel-power-system/
>
> On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at
...@gmail.com>>
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Date: Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 2:59 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
We got these through Allied Electro
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Date: Sunday, January 11, 2015 at 3:32 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Anyone ever tried the Sentinel systems?
http://gfspower.com.au/products/dc-po
rini
> President
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> www.aeronetpr.com ��
> @aeronetpr
>
>
>
> From: Bill Prince
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com"
> Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 7:04 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com"
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
>
>
6, 2015 at 7:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
We just got a couple of the 24V versions and it was only $300 each.
About the same as the Traco for the two separate units. I sure
appreciate the differences,
gt;
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 7:04 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
We just got a couple of the 24V versions and it was only $300 each. About the
same as the Traco for the two separate units. I sure apprec
Yeah, but who wants to spend money on brand new units? :)
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 1/6/15 19:58, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
>> What's wrong? You don't like prying the batteries out of the APC with a
>> tire iron?
>> man up dude :)
>>
>
>
> The latest gen of SmartUPS
On 1/6/15 19:58, Adam Moffett wrote:
What's wrong? You don't like prying the batteries out of the APC with a
tire iron?
man up dude :)
The latest gen of SmartUPS finally added t-comp charging.
~Seth
AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Yes, there is temp compensation, but not that important to me with the sites
we're putting it in. The load is isolated from the batteries, which is why it
can do multi-stage charging (recovery/boost/float). However, based on the
literature
Yes, there is temp compensation, but not that important to me with the
sites we're putting it in. The load is isolated from the batteries,
which is why it can do multi-stage charging (recovery/boost/float).
However, based on the literature, the load voltage will follow the
battery voltage. We
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=phoenix+contact+24v+ups
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Sola+24v+ups
We use these two mfgs primarily
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Tue, Jan 6, 201
What's wrong? You don't like prying the batteries out of the APC with a
tire iron?
man up dude :)
What about temperature compensation? And is the output regulated or is
it essentially parallel operation and you get battery float voltage? I
went with the Traco because the temperature compensati
What about temperature compensation? And is the output regulated or is
it essentially parallel operation and you get battery float voltage? I
went with the Traco because the temperature compensation is one thing
that I absolutely need. And I can handle the unregulated voltage with an
RSD. For s
We just got a couple of the 24V versions and it was only $300 each.
About the same as the Traco for the two separate units. I sure
appreciate the differences, but I was looking for extra-small form
factor on a DIN rail. Because this site is on AC power 99.99% of the
time, it's not a big deal
gt;
Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at 4:24 PM
To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" mailto:af@afmug.com>>,
Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Magnum mms1200, take a look
On January 6, 2015 11:08:38 AM AKST, Ken Hohhof
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From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:17 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Sounds more like MSRP maybe?
I will tell you it’s not easy stuff to buy (of course neither is Alpha). I
bought it from KGP Logis
.
>I’m not sure any AC UPS is intended for that.
>
>
>From: Gino Villarini
>Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:39 PM
>To: mailto:af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
>
>Big sites ( 500 watts or more) we go Emerson.
>
>Great units! Mark pointed us that way..
*"Ken Hohhof"
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, January 6, 2015 2:00:47 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Who priced it for you?
A couple years back I did a spreadsheet. Complete –48VDC systems
including web/SNMP controller, rectifier modules, LVD, remote battery
temperature p
perspective, but they were very nice folks.
Also carry a lot of OSP copper and fiber stuff.
I thought it was cool Interstate was carrying it, but it sounds like their
prices suck.
From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
I
@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Big sites ( 500 watts or more) we go Emerson.
Great units! Mark pointed us that way...
Smaller sites go APC, our situation is that many remote sites have long power
outages... 3-4 days sometimes
Gino A. Villarini
@gvillarini
On Jan 6, 2015, at 3:21 PM
January 6, 2015 2:00:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Who priced it for you?
A couple years back I did a spreadsheet. Complete –48VDC systems including
web/SNMP controller, rectifier modules, LVD, remote battery temperature probe,
and circuit breakers but not including batteries came out to
in addition to higher capacity may also be more
cost effective. Note also this is a passive cooling system, does not rely on
fans.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Micropack made me cry when I saw what it cost
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Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:15 PM
To: mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
The problem with xl units it's the charger ... It has low amperage (5-8 amps
dep model) and don't maintain well big banks
The idea is to have the xl with intern
ve one rectifier module fail, but it was pretty painless
given they are N+1 redundant.
From: Gino Villarini<mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:15 PM
To: mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
The problem with xl units it's the charger ... It has
capability
is excellent. I did have one rectifier module fail, but it was pretty
painless given they are N+1 redundant.
*From:* Gino Villarini <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:15 PM
*To:* mailto:af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
The problem with xl
rectifier module fail, but it was pretty painless
given they are N+1 redundant.
From: Gino Villarini
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:15 PM
To: mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
The problem with xl units it's the charger ... It has low amperage (5-8 amps
dep model) and
The problem with xl units it's the charger ... It has low amperage (5-8 amps
dep model) and don't maintain well big banks
The idea is to have the xl with internal batt and have a big bank connected to
the external batt connector
This bank will be isolated from the apc during AC operation. The
.
Also you have to rebuild the server when the Windows version goes EOL, but no
different with Linux.
I think MRTG on Windows would probably be a bad choice though.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Linux takes a bit up
from running dry or not.
--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107
- Original Message -
From: "Josh Baird"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 12:50:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Hmm, give us details wh
gt;>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Speaking of NMS, is there a consensus as to what is the favorite?
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett
>>> &
ent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> >
>> > Speaking of NMS, is there a consensus as to what is the favorite?
>> >
>> > -Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett
>> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06,
gt; Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 6, 2015, at 11:47 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> >
> > Speaking of NMS, is there a consensus as to what is the favorite?
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:42 AM
> > To: af
m: Adam Moffett
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:42 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
>
> If you just need to know when the power goes out, get a Site Monitor for
> $99. It has two power inputs. Connect input 1 to your battery backed
> power, and inp
Hmm, give us details when you get them regarding the XL!
Josh
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> Chris
>
> Thanks for this compressive evaluation. We bought 2 Alpha/Cordex unit for
> testing. We are in a similar spot, looking for a web managed power system
> in 24 and 48
Chris
Thanks for this compressive evaluation. We bought 2 Alpha/Cordex unit for
testing. We are in a similar spot, looking for a web managed power system in
24 and 48 vdc.
You saved us the expense of buying an ICT unit.
That being said, we are looking into using a slightly modified apc xl un
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- Original Message -
From: "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)"
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 6, 2015 12:26:46 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Those are really expensive. A Traco TSP+BCM is several hundred less at
almost e
Those are really expensive. A Traco TSP+BCM is several hundred less at
almost every wattage, last time I looked anyway. I like the split power
supply and battery module. A lot cheaper to replace a failed component
than an entire $700-1k all-in-one. But that's just me. The Traco gets
you tempera
How is it for traps?
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Richardson (airCloud)
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Honestly, PRTG has been rock solid and does everything.
2 hour, 1 day, 2 day, 30 day, 1 year graphing
Alerting/alarms for
/lowest latency, bandwidth, etc
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 8:48 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
Speaking of NMS, is there a consensus as to what is the favorite?
-Original
Try these. We are about to install a couple of them. Some models have
ethernet ports for a GUI (no SNMP :-( ). But they do have contacts to send
alerts through a SiteMonitor (for example).
http://www.altechcorp.com/power/CBI-UPS.html
On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Christopher Tyler
wrote:
>
Speaking of NMS, is there a consensus as to what is the favorite?
-Original Message-
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 9:42 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V UPS
If you just need to know when the power goes out, get a Site Monitor for
$99. It has two power
If you just need to know when the power goes out, get a Site Monitor for
$99. It has two power inputs. Connect input 1 to your battery backed
power, and input 2 to a wall wart on an A/C outlet.
Monitor the voltage on the two power inputs in your NMS. When input 2
has zero voltage, then the
I'm at my end. I've been looking at this for a while now and it's obvious that
no one makes an industrial APC UPS that works.
We've tried the Alpha Cordex (DIN rail) and the ICT (19" rack) and neither one
can do what a APC management card can. We just need it to provide 24vDC to a
load and when
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