Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Dave]

Thats what I was thinking or and arduino
 I use arduinos to monitor a couple large sites with all kinds of 
things to monitor including an old trunking system.



On 02/01/2018 09:24 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
How about connecting a Raspberry PI to the generator and accessing it 
via IP?


-Original Message- From: Nate Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:22 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] USB over IP

I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits
about 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on
me, failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not
an LCD troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via
USB give you complete control and monitoring through software (windows
only), but it requires pulling the control board out to access the USB
port.  I'd like to be able to get access to the control system remotely
by installing a permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the
snow and wind with a laptop.

I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300,
but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices. Will
any USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is
required on the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality
of the device is probably dependent on that software.  It looks like
these devices may be mainly used in VM environments to attach USB
Devices to VMs without going through the physical host.    Has anyone
had experience with these devices?

Nate


--

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[chuck]

Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYAhlz7rnPU

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:17 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

Faisal wins again.  AirConsole is the right answer.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

  I ordered a Wintel box, and a 12v to USB adapter.  We'll see how well they 
work.  I'm hoping the Wifi Will reach out there, and I won't have to run a 
Cat5. 


  On 2/1/2018 10:25 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

Nate,

How   about  a wintel device.  I have one here at the office that runs
the  dude  client to a dedicated monitor.  Have team viewer on it so I
can  remote  it  to  check  status.   I  was a bit worried about if it
would last, but it has been running non-stop for about 18 months now.

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[chuck]

Is USB balanced?

From: Forrest Christian (List Account) 
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:51 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

There are also quite a few USB to CAT5 'extenders' which will allow you to use 
CAT5 to extend the USB cable up to a few hundred feet  


On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

  I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits about 
50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on me, failing 
it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not an LCD 
troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via USB give you 
complete control and monitoring through software (windows only), but it 
requires pulling the control board out to access the USB port.  I'd like to be 
able to get access to the control system remotely by installing a permanent USB 
hookup, but without having to sit in the snow and wind with a laptop.

  I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300, but 
they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will any USB 
device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is required on the PC 
to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality of the device is probably 
dependent on that software.  It looks like these devices may be mainly used in 
VM environments to attach USB Devices to VMs without going through the physical 
host.Has anyone had experience with these devices?

  Nate




-- 

  Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.

  Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
  forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com

 

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

Oh, and what generator is this?   Sounds like one I might want to add to my
USB device support for the sitemonitor module if that ever ends up
released

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits about
> 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on me,
> failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not an LCD
> troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via USB give
> you complete control and monitoring through software (windows only), but it
> requires pulling the control board out to access the USB port.  I'd like to
> be able to get access to the control system remotely by installing a
> permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the snow and wind with a
> laptop.
>
> I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300,
> but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will any
> USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is required on
> the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality of the device is
> probably dependent on that software.  It looks like these devices may be
> mainly used in VM environments to attach USB Devices to VMs without going
> through the physical host.Has anyone had experience with these devices?
>
> Nate
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Forrest Christian (List Account)]

There are also quite a few USB to CAT5 'extenders' which will allow you to
use CAT5 to extend the USB cable up to a few hundred feet

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:22 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits about
> 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on me,
> failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not an LCD
> troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via USB give
> you complete control and monitoring through software (windows only), but it
> requires pulling the control board out to access the USB port.  I'd like to
> be able to get access to the control system remotely by installing a
> permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the snow and wind with a
> laptop.
>
> I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300,
> but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will any
> USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is required on
> the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality of the device is
> probably dependent on that software.  It looks like these devices may be
> mainly used in VM environments to attach USB Devices to VMs without going
> through the physical host.Has anyone had experience with these devices?
>
> Nate
>



-- 
*Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
  

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Josh Luthman]

Faisal wins again.  AirConsole is the right answer.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 12:18 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I ordered a Wintel box, and a 12v to USB adapter.  We'll see how well they
> work.  I'm hoping the Wifi Will reach out there, and I won't have to run a
> Cat5.
>
>
> On 2/1/2018 10:25 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
>
>> Nate,
>>
>> How   about  a wintel device.  I have one here at the office that runs
>> the  dude  client to a dedicated monitor.  Have team viewer on it so I
>> can  remote  it  to  check  status.   I  was a bit worried about if it
>> would last, but it has been running non-stop for about 18 months now.
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Nate Burke]

I ordered a Wintel box, and a 12v to USB adapter.  We'll see how well 
they work.  I'm hoping the Wifi Will reach out there, and I won't have 
to run a Cat5.


On 2/1/2018 10:25 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:

Nate,

How   about  a wintel device.  I have one here at the office that runs
the  dude  client to a dedicated monitor.  Have team viewer on it so I
can  remote  it  to  check  status.   I  was a bit worried about if it
would last, but it has been running non-stop for about 18 months now.

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Nate,

How   about  a wintel device.  I have one here at the office that runs
the  dude  client to a dedicated monitor.  Have team viewer on it so I
can  remote  it  to  check  status.   I  was a bit worried about if it
would last, but it has been running non-stop for about 18 months now.

-- 
Best regards,
 Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com

--

Thursday, February 1, 2018, 10:46:04 AM, you wrote:

NB> Unfortunately it's not a console connection to the control board, it 
NB> requires an application and it is Windows only.  Maybe I could put a 
NB> Compute Stick out there.  It could run it off the generator battery, I
NB> wonder if the voltage drop would be enough that it would reboot when the
NB> Genset cranks.  There is a float charger on the battery, so It wouldn't
NB> drain between cycles.

NB> This guy looks interesting 
NB> 
https://www.amazon.com/Coolgear-Industrial-Network-4-Port-Device/dp/B01NCNC3TX/
NB> and takes a 12V input, just hook it straight to the battery.

NB> On 2/1/2018 9:35 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> BTW... just remembered.. you can also use some of the smaller Mikrotik's 
>> with USB Ports on them as USB/Serial Console access via IP or Wifi.
>>
>>
>> http://myhomelab.blogspot.com/2014/06/remote-console-with-mikrotik.html
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:22:16 AM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] USB over IP
>>> I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits
>>> about 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on
>>> me, failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not
>>> an LCD troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via
>>> USB give you complete control and monitoring through software (windows
>>> only), but it requires pulling the control board out to access the USB
>>> port.  I'd like to be able to get access to the control system remotely
>>> by installing a permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the
>>> snow and wind with a laptop.
>>>
>>> I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300,
>>> but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will
>>> any USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is
>>> required on the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality
>>> of the device is probably dependent on that software.  It looks like
>>> these devices may be mainly used in VM environments to attach USB
>>> Devices to VMs without going through the physical host.Has anyone
>>> had experience with these devices?
>>>
>>> Nate

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Steve Jones]

this is how panasonic phone systems used to be, i cant remember what we
used but it worked for the most part, occasionally freaked other USB stuff
out. If you know a pnasonic vendor they might be able to pull up the
recommended device


On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> Unfortunately it's not a console connection to the control board, it
> requires an application and it is Windows only.  Maybe I could put a
> Compute Stick out there.  It could run it off the generator battery, I
> wonder if the voltage drop would be enough that it would reboot when the
> Genset cranks.  There is a float charger on the battery, so It wouldn't
> drain between cycles.
>
> This guy looks interesting https://www.amazon.com/Coolgea
> r-Industrial-Network-4-Port-Device/dp/B01NCNC3TX/ and takes a 12V input,
> just hook it straight to the battery.
>
>
> On 2/1/2018 9:35 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>
>> BTW... just remembered.. you can also use some of the smaller Mikrotik's
>> with USB Ports on them as USB/Serial Console access via IP or Wifi.
>>
>>
>> http://myhomelab.blogspot.com/2014/06/remote-console-with-mikrotik.html
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>>
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>
>>> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:22:16 AM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] USB over IP
>>> I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits
>>> about 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on
>>> me, failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not
>>> an LCD troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via
>>> USB give you complete control and monitoring through software (windows
>>> only), but it requires pulling the control board out to access the USB
>>> port.  I'd like to be able to get access to the control system remotely
>>> by installing a permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the
>>> snow and wind with a laptop.
>>>
>>> I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300,
>>> but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will
>>> any USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is
>>> required on the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality
>>> of the device is probably dependent on that software.  It looks like
>>> these devices may be mainly used in VM environments to attach USB
>>> Devices to VMs without going through the physical host.Has anyone
>>> had experience with these devices?
>>>
>>> Nate
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Nate Burke]

Unfortunately it's not a console connection to the control board, it 
requires an application and it is Windows only.  Maybe I could put a 
Compute Stick out there.  It could run it off the generator battery, I 
wonder if the voltage drop would be enough that it would reboot when the 
Genset cranks.  There is a float charger on the battery, so It wouldn't 
drain between cycles.


This guy looks interesting 
https://www.amazon.com/Coolgear-Industrial-Network-4-Port-Device/dp/B01NCNC3TX/ 
and takes a 12V input, just hook it straight to the battery.


On 2/1/2018 9:35 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

BTW... just remembered.. you can also use some of the smaller Mikrotik's with 
USB Ports on them as USB/Serial Console access via IP or Wifi.


http://myhomelab.blogspot.com/2014/06/remote-console-with-mikrotik.html

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -

From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:22:16 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] USB over IP
I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits
about 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on
me, failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not
an LCD troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via
USB give you complete control and monitoring through software (windows
only), but it requires pulling the control board out to access the USB
port.  I'd like to be able to get access to the control system remotely
by installing a permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the
snow and wind with a laptop.

I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300,
but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will
any USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is
required on the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality
of the device is probably dependent on that software.  It looks like
these devices may be mainly used in VM environments to attach USB
Devices to VMs without going through the physical host.Has anyone
had experience with these devices?

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Faisal Imtiaz]

BTW... just remembered.. you can also use some of the smaller Mikrotik's with 
USB Ports on them as USB/Serial Console access via IP or Wifi.


http://myhomelab.blogspot.com/2014/06/remote-console-with-mikrotik.html

Regards.

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:22:16 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] USB over IP

> I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits
> about 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on
> me, failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not
> an LCD troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via
> USB give you complete control and monitoring through software (windows
> only), but it requires pulling the control board out to access the USB
> port.  I'd like to be able to get access to the control system remotely
> by installing a permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the
> snow and wind with a laptop.
> 
> I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300,
> but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will
> any USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is
> required on the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality
> of the device is probably dependent on that software.  It looks like
> these devices may be mainly used in VM environments to attach USB
> Devices to VMs without going through the physical host.Has anyone
> had experience with these devices?
> 
> Nate

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[Faisal Imtiaz]

look for USB WIFI Console   e.g. AirConsole

You should keep in the back of your mind that USB is a form of a Serial port..

Lots of options and flavors available.

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
http://www.snappytelecom.net

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com>
> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 10:22:16 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] USB over IP

> I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits
> about 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on
> me, failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not
> an LCD troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via
> USB give you complete control and monitoring through software (windows
> only), but it requires pulling the control board out to access the USB
> port.  I'd like to be able to get access to the control system remotely
> by installing a permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the
> snow and wind with a laptop.
> 
> I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300,
> but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will
> any USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is
> required on the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality
> of the device is probably dependent on that software.  It looks like
> these devices may be mainly used in VM environments to attach USB
> Devices to VMs without going through the physical host.Has anyone
> had experience with these devices?
> 
> Nate

Re: [AFMUG] USB over IP

[chuck]

How about connecting a Raspberry PI to the generator and accessing it via 
IP?


-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:22 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] USB over IP

I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits
about 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on
me, failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not
an LCD troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via
USB give you complete control and monitoring through software (windows
only), but it requires pulling the control board out to access the USB
port.  I'd like to be able to get access to the control system remotely
by installing a permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the
snow and wind with a laptop.

I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300,
but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will
any USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is
required on the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality
of the device is probably dependent on that software.  It looks like
these devices may be mainly used in VM environments to attach USB
Devices to VMs without going through the physical host.Has anyone
had experience with these devices?

Nate 

[AFMUG] USB over IP

[Nate Burke]

I have a generator control board that is interfaced via USB, it sits 
about 50' away from the building.  The generator has been acting up on 
me, failing it's exercise cycle about every 4 attempts, and there is not 
an LCD troubleshooting display to see what went wrong. Plugging in via 
USB give you complete control and monitoring through software (windows 
only), but it requires pulling the control board out to access the USB 
port.  I'd like to be able to get access to the control system remotely 
by installing a permanent USB hookup, but without having to sit in the 
snow and wind with a laptop.


I have found some USB to IP adapters, that range in price from $50-$300, 
but they mostly talk about using them as Printer sharing devices.  Will 
any USB device work with them?  I'm guessing that some software is 
required on the PC to get the USB to IP Bridge working, so the quality 
of the device is probably dependent on that software.  It looks like 
these devices may be mainly used in VM environments to attach USB 
Devices to VMs without going through the physical host.Has anyone 
had experience with these devices?


Nate