Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread Louis Arsenault
Shipping and Customs to start. On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:37 PM Peter Kranz via AF wrote: > Anyone successfully built a telecom UPS solution using rack mount LiFePO4 > batteries sourced from china? > > > > There seems to be endless arrays of rack mount solutions there: > > > https://www.alibaba.c

[AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Matt
What is everyone's favorite register now days? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Mike Hammett
NameCheap - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:35:24 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Domain Registration What is everyone's favorit

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Josh Baird
Gandi. On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 9:36 AM Matt wrote: > What is everyone's favorite register now days? > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Nate Burke
I've been very happy with hover.com I think it might be one of those things where, 'I started using this 10 years ago, it's still working so I've never needed to go through the hassle of changing.' On 2/12/2020 8:37 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: NameCheap - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computin

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Ryan McAfee
Google Domains -Original Message- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 08:35:24 -0600 From: Matt To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Domain Registration Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" What is everyone's favorite register now days? ---

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Lewis Bergman
+1 for google On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 8:51 AM Ryan McAfee wrote: > Google Domains > > -Original Message- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 08:35:24 -0600 > From: Matt > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: [AFMUG] Domain Registration > Message-ID: > qh+p3d3fhgvxlxrw4phkbag...@m

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Steve Jones
Google is nice On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 8:56 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > +1 for google > > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 8:51 AM Ryan McAfee wrote: > >> Google Domains >> >> -Original Message- >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2020 08:35:24 -0600 >> From: Matt >> To: af@af.afmug.com >> Subj

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Anybody other than Network Solutions. Actually out of inertia I use Domains Priced Right which is basically GoDaddy. Wild West Domains is GoDaddy’s reseller division, and Domains Priced Right is a house account, originally so domains would have a home if a reseller didn’t renew their accoun

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration Nate, +1 -- Best regards, Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 9:43:32 AM, you wrote: I've been very happy with hover.com I think it might be one of t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Warning, this is an extremely left wing website, but the article seems to have a lot of good information and graphs, and other than criticizing a couple of politicians for promoting a conspiracy theory, the info seems to be non political. https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/2/12/1918567/-C

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Steve Jones
I was so happy to get away from Network Solutions. Every time a customer has domain stuff they want us to do i want to stick a needle in my eye when they say its at godaddy On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 9:14 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Anybody other than Network Solutions. > > > > Actually out of inertia I

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Doug Hass
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Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
I wonder how nice they are, if they have to remind themselves “don’t be evil”. Reminds me of Bruce the Shark from Finding Nemo. “I am a nice shark, not a mindless eating machine. If I am to change this image, I must first change myself. Fish are friends, not food.” From: AF On Behalf

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-12 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock) From an article I read this morning.  Glad I'm in FL The transcript of the call showed Nicholls believes weather conditions will be a key factor in the demise of the novel coronavirus. Referencing the SARS outbreak from 2002 and 2003, Nicholls sa

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Corona-fu (was UBNT stock)

2020-02-12 Thread Steve Jones
I wonder, since I have a cough, if I can self quarantine for 14 days and be protected under FMLA On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:23 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > From an article I read this morning. Glad I'm in FL > > The transcript of the call showed Nicholls believes weather conditions >

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Robert
They ditched that slogan...  Reality sucks.. On 2/12/20 8:22 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I wonder how nice they are, if they have to remind themselves “don’t be evil”. Reminds me of Bruce the Shark from Finding Nemo. “I am a nice shark, not a mindless eating machine. If I am to change this image

Re: [AFMUG] Domain Registration

2020-02-12 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
dynadot . Switched from godaddy to namecheap quite a few years ago, and moved on to dynadot last year. Renewal prices for .com, .net, .org. and .info are all less expensive and I like the UI they have. On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 7:36 AM Matt wrote: > What is everyone's favorite register now da

[AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread chuck
Any way we can get Akamai cashing server in Salt Lake City?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Akamai is scaling back their cache nodes into larger deployments. Too many cattle to manage effectively. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: We

Re: [AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread chuck
That sucks From: Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 11:01 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aakami Akamai is scaling back their cache nodes into larger deployments. Too many cattle to manage effectively. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing S

Re: [AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/20 10:08, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That sucks *From:* Mike Hammett *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2020 11:01 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aakami Akamai is scaling back their cache nodes into larger deployments. Too many cattle to manage effectively.

Re: [AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread Adam Moffett
On 2/12/2020 1:27 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: On 2/12/20 10:08, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: That sucks *From:* Mike Hammett *Sent:* Wednesday, February 12, 2020 11:01 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Aakami Akamai is scaling back their cache nodes into larger deploym

Re: [AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Your issues aside, it seems like if you can run a node of adequate size, they'll work with you. They're collapsing multiple lower (sub 10G) volume nodes into our node in Indy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP -

Re: [AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/20 10:48, Mike Hammett wrote: Your issues aside, it seems like if you can run a node of adequate size, they'll work with you. Maybe 5+ years ago they were better to work with. Recently they couldn't get new peers like HE set up because the Akamai latched on to it being for AMS-IX an

Re: [AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Like most CDNs and large networks, they certainly have operational issues. I've heard of one major market where they've been out of patch panel space for months. That could be a facility issue as well. In our limited case of Indy, they're getting better because they're pushing small people

Re: [AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/12/20 11:02, Mike Hammett wrote: Like most CDNs and large networks, they certainly have operational issues. I've heard of one major market where they've been out of patch panel space for months. That could be a facility issue as well. No facility issues. HE sent me all the emails when

Re: [AFMUG] Aakami

2020-02-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Well right, I meant at that other major market. I'd assume if someone's out of patch panel space, getting more patch panels or racks for patch panels then becomes the challenge. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ---

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread Robert Andrews
Nice thing about the lithium Iron is any charger that is programmable will work. And the faster you can charge them the better. You think flooded times of 2-4 hours and with a big charger the lithium banks can charge at 100amps and 1 hour. On 02/12/2020 02:06 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 21

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread chuck
Charging time doesn't interest me much in a grid backup situation. The cost of the battery per watt hour is normally my only consideration for a backup battery. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 4:25 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Life also matters. Half the cost but has to be replaced in half the time would not be a good deal. With my luck, if batteries die after 3 years, I'll have a big power outage every 37 months. And it's not just a cost calculation. Lugging half a ton of new batteries out to a tower and then haulin

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread Bill Prince
I think you would expect at least 2-3 times the life with lithium (almost all the various chemistries currently in vogue). You can also increase discharge tolerance to 80-90 percent instead of the usual lead-acid 50% (or thereabouts). I think the cost is still a bit over the top. Maybe another

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread chuck
In my 42+ years of dealing with stationary flooded cells is that you can easily get 20+ years from them if they are properly maintained and kept in an environmentally controlled area. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:04 PM To: af@af.afmug.com S

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm wondering how well lithiums hold up compared to flooded cells in a non-environmentally controlled area. I suspect it's worse. On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 6:20 PM wrote: > In my 42+ years of dealing with stationary flooded cells is that you can > easily get 20+ years from them if they are properl

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread Robert Andrews
& If you could get a reasonable price on Lithium Titanate, they last FOREVER! On 02/12/2020 03:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Life also matters. Half the cost but has to be replaced in half the time would not be a good deal. With my luck, if batteries die after 3 years, I'll have a big power outage

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread Robert Andrews
Lithiums degrade with temps over 130 degrees F ( depending upon chemistry and if you attempt to charge them below freezing. Failure can result from trying to charge below freezing. Between those extremes they do pretty well. The below freezing is a deal breaker for outside solar. There are

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread chuck
Wikipedia says: Lithium-titanate cells also last for 3000 to 7000 charge cycles; one source claims a cycle life of ~1000 cycles before reaching 80% capacity when charged and discharged at 55 °C (131 °F), rather than the standard 25 °C (77 °F). So, pretty good for something that cycles a lot

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread Steve Jones
these they say are good for subzero charging, thats what appeals to me and that the subzero doesnt affect discharge rate On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 6:39 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > Lithiums degrade with temps over 130 degrees F ( depending upon > chemistry and if you attempt to charge them below fr

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread Robert
They have three problems..   1) Cost..  Yeah they break the bank.  2) low voltage compared to other chemistries, which means _more_ cost  3) poor efficiency..   You put in 100 watts, you only get 80 watts out.  All of this is from listening to Will Prowse..   He has an excellent set of tubes on

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread TJ Trout
Guys, every chemistry of lithium battery (lifepo4, li-ion, lto, etc) are available in 1 to 10 KW modules at less than $100 a kilowatt hour most of them test between 70 to 99% of the rated capacity mostly removed from electric vehicles anyways we repurpose them into storage for our equipment you jus

Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah battery packs?

2020-02-12 Thread chuck
Do tell. Where do you get the batts? What BMS are you using? Do you want to resell? I would volunteer to be logistics and fulfillment if you want. From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 7:19 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Alibaba LiFePO4 48V 200Ah b

Re: [AFMUG] OT Interesting

2020-02-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
He doesn’t actually think the expression is “honest engine”, does he? From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:00 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Interesting One of my sons has a masters degree in EE and works for Hill AFB doing something deepl

Re: [AFMUG] OT Interesting

2020-02-12 Thread chuck
I noticed that too. I guess that is the PC version of the expression. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 7:42 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Interesting He doesn’t actually think the expression is “honest engine”, does he? From: AF On