Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ?

2018-05-09 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Chuck, Would you recommend them? How solid are they? What is the wattage of the configuration on ebay? Do they charge the batteries? From: Af > on behalf of Chuck McCown > Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
Promises promises :) On Mon, Mar 26, 2018, 7:44 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Let me rephrase..to be more complete. > > There are some docs, they're hard to find. They're also not very pretty > and assume knowledge that some of our customers don't have.

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Sam Lambie
FYI, I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit Packetflux Powered Medusa the other week and no go. The radio boots up for about 25 seconds, and then shuts down. On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:54 AM, wrote: > I am going to chase this down. Only certain types of products have

[AFMUG] Ubiquiti ER-X

2018-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Anybody have any opinions on the reliability of Ubiquiti ER-X and ER-X-SFP routers? I was thinking they might be useful for a customer premises router/CPE.one which we control, not the customer.

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
I am going to chase this down. Only certain types of products have the issue it seems. I am going to try to add solid state to the gas tubes using a different design that eliminates the steering diodes. Seems like the steering diodes are causing the problem in some situations. From: George

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
The doctor my mom took me to when I was little would hunt and peck out a prescription with a cigarette dangling from his lips. I was amazed how well he could type. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 7:38 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT:

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
What's this gas tube product placement? I want to see these On Wed, May 9, 2018, 9:51 AM wrote: > Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs. > > Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday. Some types of > equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread George Skorup
No diodes, just gas-tube for large surge event suppression. Obviously not as much protection though. I'm seeing more CRC errors than I'm comfortable with on the cards with diodes. Rev G is definitely better though. I've broken the shield at various sites while testing to rule out any potential

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/cat6-100-gas-discharge-tube-rack-mount-surge-protector/ From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 9:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa What's this gas tube product placement? I want to see

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti ER-X

2018-05-09 Thread Matt Hoppes
Have not had one fail yet since they came out. > On May 9, 2018, at 10:36, Adam Moffett wrote: > > Anybody have any opinions on the reliability of Ubiquiti ER-X and ER-X-SFP > routers? > > I was thinking they might be useful for a customer premises > router/CPE.one

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
Thanks, yeah nothing fit well next to the thin pcbs. Odd, got some test results back from George yesterday. Some types of equipment has CRC errors with some of our surge suppressors. Trying to identify the bad combinations. Good thing is that our gas tube only products seem to be flawless

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti ER-X

2018-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Good to hear, thanks. -- Original Message -- From: "Matt Hoppes" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/9/2018 10:37:53 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti ER-X Have not had one fail yet since they came out. On May 9, 2018, at 10:36, Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 300 - no DFS (yet?)

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
It is just trying to save you from FCC troubles Dave. And it will also not open the pod bay doors Dave. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 7:39 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP 300 - no DFS (yet?) So we got some ePMP 300 CPE in, and if we check the boxes to enable DFS

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread George Skorup
Matt, exactly which card is that? Is that gas-tube only? I did some extensive testing at a site yesterday for Chuck. The more data we can give him the better we'll all be. On 5/9/2018 9:08 AM, Matt wrote: Chuck, Like form factor of new arrestors much better. Thicker PCB and RJ45 not as

Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ?

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
I would recommend them. https://www.exeltech.com/products/inverters/inverters-above-2k-watt-mx/ Never had a problem with them. You need either a control card or a master inverter in each rack. I prefer the control card so all the inverter modules are the same. I also like the transfer

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
Funny, the product is so simple. Jacks. Tubes. Electrodes with gas between them from the Ethernet lines to ground. The only way the tubes can affect the circuit is if they are ionized, which means a high voltage coming from somewhere. could be coming from a ground loop or ??? Or a tube

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Matt
Chuck, Like form factor of new arrestors much better. Thicker PCB and RJ45 not as tall. They do not fit well next to your last thin pcb version though. Did not care for the thin pcb and tall RJ45 at all. Swapped out 4 PxP450i APC arrestors to these 17 hours ago. So far flawless even at

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 300 - no DFS (yet?)

2018-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Interestingly it only throws the error if you enable 40mhz channel size. On 20mhz channel it's no problem. -- Original Message -- From: "Dave" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/9/2018 10:05:01 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 300 - no DFS (yet?) Verify power settings and

Re: [AFMUG] crowdsource troubleshooting

2018-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
You are self aware? Jaime Solorza On Tue, May 8, 2018, 11:03 PM Philip Rankin wrote: > Hey Josh, > > The new ePMP gigabit interfaces will work both polarities. You can > actually use the old PMP100 power supplies with no issues that I have had > so far. I have only

[AFMUG] ePMP 300 - no DFS (yet?)

2018-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett
So we got some ePMP 300 CPE in, and if we check the boxes to enable DFS channels they toss an error and won't save the settings. Anybody know what the deal is here? Coming in the future?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: One space versus two spaces (again)

2018-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett
They taught me in high school to double tap the spacebar after a sentence. That was 1996. No mention of one space that I recall. Almost nobody was using type writers at that point. At least they taught me to type and I'm glad for it. I have a colleague who hunts and pecks with two fingers

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 300 - no DFS (yet?)

2018-05-09 Thread Dave
Verify power settings and review error message. DFS has very low power settings. Also ant gain setting can throw an error On 05/09/2018 08:39 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: So we got some ePMP 300 CPE in, and if we check the boxes to enable DFS channels they toss an error and won't save the

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
i vote MT radioactive tubes On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:41 AM, wrote: > They are light sensitive if they are made out of glass. Not so much with > the ceramics. > The mixture of gasses set the breakdown voltage. The ones I use fire at > about 90 volts. > > I remember working at

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett
I thought it took hundreds of volts to trigger a gas tube. Aren't some of them light sensitive? What if the APC chassis was near a window and getting direct sunlight? -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/9/2018 12:00:20 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-09 Thread James Howard
Dredging up an old thread here. What did you end up going with Chuck? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 2:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100' Needs to be self supporting. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday,

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
They are light sensitive if they are made out of glass. Not so much with the ceramics. The mixture of gasses set the breakdown voltage. The ones I use fire at about 90 volts. I remember working at sites where the gas tubes were filled with radioactive gases. From: Adam Moffett Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
Rohn SSV. From: James Howard Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:30 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100' Dredging up an old thread here. What did you end up going with Chuck? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, October 9,

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-09 Thread James Howard
What did it end up costing? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 11:43 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100' Rohn SSV. From: James Howard Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 10:30 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-09 Thread James Howard
Sounds like roughly $12k total. Thanks much! That helps a lot. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 1:51 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100' Not really sure as we did most of it ourself. Probably $2000 for

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Adam Moffett
Nookular Surge Suppressorâ„¢ -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 5/9/2018 1:34:18 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa i vote MT radioactive tubes On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 11:41 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
$5,721.00 + Tax and shipping $7,889.00 From: James Howard Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 11:40 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100' What did it end up costing? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 11:43

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-09 Thread James Howard
What did you end up spending to install it? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 1:40 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100' $5,721.00 + Tax and shipping $7,889.00 From: James Howard Sent: Wednesday, May 9,

[AFMUG] OT such a deal

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
My #2 son just got accepted to grad school, government will pay for school and keep his payroll running while he is in school. (He is an EE at Hill Air force Base). Such a good deal. I am proud and jealous all at the same time.

Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100'

2018-05-09 Thread chuck
Not really sure as we did most of it ourself. Probably $2000 for the foundation and another $1500 for erection. From: James Howard Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2018 12:44 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Good tower for 100' What did you end up spending to install it? From: Af

Re: [AFMUG] OT such a deal

2018-05-09 Thread Cameron Crum
Very nice! On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > My #2 son just got accepted to grad school, government will pay for school > and keep his payroll running while he is in school. (He is an EE at Hill > Air force Base). Such a good deal. I am proud and jealous all at the

Re: [AFMUG] OT such a deal

2018-05-09 Thread Jaime Solorza
Congrats .#2 son? Now you are Charlie Chan? Jaime Solorza On Wed, May 9, 2018, 1:18 PM wrote: > My #2 son just got accepted to grad school, government will pay for school > and keep his payroll running while he is in school. (He is an EE at Hill > Air force Base). Such

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech rack mount surge suppressor with Medusa

2018-05-09 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Just curious... does the rackinjector show the port in a tripped state afterwards? I'm assuming this boots just fine without the surge suppressor? On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Sam Lambie wrote: > FYI, > > I installed the gas tube version on a gigabit Packetflux

Re: [AFMUG] 48 vdc Inverteres for Data Room 6kw ?

2018-05-09 Thread Eric Kuhnke
You could also look into individual 1500W meanwell true sine wave inverters, running in parallel off your 48vdc battery bus. You can parallel as many as you need. Don't load any individual one with more than 1300W constant. Wire up the output from each meanwell to 120vac PDUs with amperage meter

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti ER-X

2018-05-09 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Also have not seen one fail yet. Most likely to die thing is probably the AC to DC wall wart which is cheap. Uses the same barrel size as many 3.5" external HDD which are typically 12vdc 1.5a adapter. On Wed, May 9, 2018, 7:37 AM Matt Hoppes wrote: > Have not