Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-07 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
: Sunday, October 5, 2014 6:44:56 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity then youre already putting in 5-20 dollars worth of cable, 20-35 dollars in surge protection. 5-15 dollars in mounting hardware in incidental costs aside from the CPE there isnt really much breathing room

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-07 Thread David via Af
OMG.. Stop that :) Tree == BAD for anything electronic. The tree rats take of any foreign object on its territory and for get it if you place it on a Pecan tree LOL On 10/05/2014 06:47 PM, timothy steele via Af wrote: A cap that keeps ants/worms on of SM for tree installs would be nice —

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-07 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
://www.ics-il.com *From: *Darin Steffl via Af af@afmug.com *To: *af@afmug.com *Sent: *Sunday, October 5, 2014 4:25:38 PM *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity Chris Sisler - RF Armor has/is creating a Customer

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-07 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity If you use the new UBNT surgeprotectors* (or something like them), then your outdoor run would technically terminate at that box, and then you'd have a second (probably much shorter) run from that box into the home. It would be much more

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-07 Thread Mike Hammett via Af
Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2014 2:06:53 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity And also if you have to do a cable rerun or move the antenna

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-07 Thread Ken Hohhof via Af
into the building where the lightning protectors are in an indoor demarc cabinet. From: Adam Moffett via Af Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:12 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity The code part is debatable. An antenna cable would definitely need

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-06 Thread Jeremy via Af
I meant your original idea Forrest. I'm not sure that I'll ever master this whole email group thing. As far as an average for business installsright now we would be better talking about the number of business installs that we intend to do rather than the amount that we are actually doing.

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Darin Steffl via Af
Love the sounds of it but we wouldn't be able to eat the cost for every new customers because right now, it is easy enough for us to run speedtests through our CPE antenna on the roof. After that, we can at least see if the router is negotiating at 100mb or 10mb which would indicate a wiring

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread TJ Trout via Af
I would love to find a router that has poe output and all of the diagnostic features you mentioned. It would be nice if the customer could just look at the router to see the status of the connection up down or otherwise. On Oct 5, 2014 2:13 PM, Chris Fabien via Af af@afmug.com wrote: I'd say you

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
I guess the other question I should have asked is If $75 isn't doable, what price target do I have to meet to make it doable?. I don't have a straightforward way to get below the $75 price today, but I don't really even have a idea what the ideal target price would be. I've also considered

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Keefe John via Af
The only way to make this price doable is if it is a router too like Netonix's new device. Keefe On 10/5/2014 4:08 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af wrote: Following up on the previous email about product ideas, I have an idea for a product which at least I think would be really

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
That's sort of the thought process I was headed towards. With my preference to not entering that already way too crowded market. There are already three vendors that I know of in that space, and I don't feel like trying to compete with the vendors that have way more volume than I could attain.

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
] *On Behalf Of *Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af *Sent:* Sunday, October 05, 2014 5:44 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity That's sort of the thought process I was headed towards. With my preference to not entering that already way too crowded

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Josh Reynolds via Af
Honestly, a RB2011 fills that niche pretty well. Lock the LCD to display only WAN bandwidth, and disable the touchscreen. Techs can log into the RB2011 with the admin credentials and check on the wireless clients, interface errors, run speed tests (tcp) to the headend of your network, etc.

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread That One Guy via Af
then youre already putting in 5-20 dollars worth of cable, 20-35 dollars in surge protection. 5-15 dollars in mounting hardware in incidental costs aside from the CPE there isnt really much breathing room for residential 29-39 dollar connections. Especially in cases like us who eat the CPE cost.

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Carlos Alcantar via Af
@afmug.com Date: Sunday, October 5, 2014 at 7:58 PM To: af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com af@afmug.commailto:af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity This is the best idea I've ever heard for a WISP business invention. I LOVE the idea. It would be really hard to justify

Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

2014-10-05 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af
I'm assuming you mean the original idea, not the idea presented in the message you replied to ;) Yes, it occured to me that this might be a business-install type of product where you're more worried about uptime and availability instead of every penny of cost. Do you have any idea how many