OMG..
Stop that :)
Tree == BAD for anything electronic.
The tree rats take of any foreign object on its territory and for get it if you place it on a Pecan tree LOL

On 10/05/2014 06:47 PM, timothy steele via Af wrote:
A cap that keeps ants/worms on of SM for tree installs would be nice

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On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:45 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    then youre already putting in 5-20 dollars worth of cable, 20-35
    dollars in surge protection. 5-15 dollars in mounting hardware in
    incidental costs aside from the CPE there isnt really much
    breathing room for residential 29-39 dollar connections.
    Especially in cases like us who eat the CPE cost.
    The reality is it would be just one more piece of equipment for
    customers to plug in incorrectly, or even better, completely bypass.
    That being said, I want it, and I want it to display the MAC
    address of the attached device so that when a customer gets a new
    router to self provision they can look on the display and know
    what it is, we still have CS staff telling them to look on the
    sticker on the router.. fucking dipshits.


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    On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Honestly, a RB2011 fills that niche pretty well. Lock the LCD
        to display only WAN bandwidth, and disable the touchscreen.
        Techs can log into the RB2011 with the admin credentials and
        check on the wireless clients, interface errors, run speed
        tests (tcp) to the headend of your network, etc.

        $5/mo for router management a month is what we charge, and the
        people that have the service love it.

        Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
        SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

        On 10/05/2014 01:18 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote:

        I would love to find a router that has poe output and all of
        the diagnostic features you mentioned. It would be nice if
        the customer could just look at the router to see the status
        of the connection up down or otherwise.

        On Oct 5, 2014 2:13 PM, "Chris Fabien via Af" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            I'd say you are correct. Would love to have the
            functionality but even at $75 I couldn't justify the cost.

            On Oct 5, 2014 5:08 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)
            via Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                Following up on the previous email about product
                ideas, I have an idea for a product which at least I
                think would be really cool, but I also think would
                likely be a big flop, just because of the apparent
                cost sensitivity of installs.

                It seems to me that it would be nice to replace the
                power injector at customer sites with more of an
                intelligent device.   One that provides functionality
                like traffic metering, cable diagnostics,
                customer-location speed tests, and so on.   The unit
                would have jacks for the radio, the customer
                equipment, and power.   It would also have a display
                which shows real-time usage data for the customer to
                be able to determine for themselves what their
                current internet consumption is.   There are a lot of
                natural outgrowths from this such as watchdog reset
                of the radio itself, automatic problem notification
                to the WISP, etc.   My goal would be to instrument
                this as much as possible.

                If you think of this as a 'smart power meter' for
                internet, with diagnostic tools built in, then you've
                got the basic idea.  This is not intended to replace
                the customer router/nat device, and will only be a
                Layer 2 device as far as traffic goes.  There will
                likely be some limited traffic shaping possible based
                on the underlying ethernet swtich chipset.

                Unfortunately, these can't be a $20 device.   $75
                might be doable for higher volumes, but $100 is more
                in the comfort zone for the volumes I typically
                move.  Of course, this is a CPE device and I'm not
                even sure how many I'd sell so these prices are
                guesses at best - but more likely to go down instead
                of up.

                Although I suspect most people would love to have one
                of these at each install, I have a hard time
                believing that most people would swallow adding even
                $75 to the cost of each install, let alone the $100
                which might be the price I'd have to hit for lower
                volume.   Is this a fair assumption?  Would you add
                such a device to each install?








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