If you use the new UBNT surgeprotectors* (or something like them), then your outdoor run would technically terminate at that box, and then you'd have a second (probably much shorter) run from that box into the home. It would be much more likely for the primarily 'outdoor' cable to have water in it than the much shorter run inside the home.

Also, we always slice the bottom of our drip loops to let water weep out.

[* - I have no idea if these are shipping]

Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

On 10/07/2014 04:20 AM, Mike Hammett via Af wrote:
I used to be really excited about all-in-one CPE units until I realized that where now I have to change out the occasional PoE due to water\lightning\whatever damage... then I'd have to change out the entire unit.



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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

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*From: *"Darin Steffl via Af" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Sunday, October 5, 2014 4:25:38 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Customer install cost sensitivity

Chris Sisler - RF Armor has/is creating a Customer AP with POE built-in but it doesn't have a display as far as I know to show status or anything like that. He is working on getting out the Tower/WISP switches first I think and then the Customer AP.

http://www.netonix.com/cap-fxs-1.html

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 4:18 PM, TJ Trout via Af <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I would love to find a router that has poe output and all of the
    diagnostic features you mentioned. It would be nice if the
    customer could just look at the router to see the status of the
    connection up down or otherwise.

    On Oct 5, 2014 2:13 PM, "Chris Fabien via Af" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I'd say you are correct. Would love to have the functionality
        but even at $75 I couldn't justify the cost.

        On Oct 5, 2014 5:08 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account) via
        Af" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Following up on the previous email about product ideas, I
            have an idea for a product which at least I think would be
            really cool, but I also think would likely be a big flop,
            just because of the apparent cost sensitivity of installs.

            It seems to me that it would be nice to replace the power
            injector at customer sites with more of an intelligent
            device.   One that provides functionality like traffic
            metering, cable diagnostics, customer-location speed
            tests, and so on.   The unit would have jacks for the
            radio, the customer equipment, and power.   It would also
            have a display which shows real-time usage data for the
            customer to be able to determine for themselves what their
            current internet consumption is.   There are a lot of
            natural outgrowths from this such as watchdog reset of the
            radio itself, automatic problem notification to the WISP,
            etc.   My goal would be to instrument this as much as
            possible.

            If you think of this as a 'smart power meter' for
            internet, with diagnostic tools built in, then you've got
            the basic idea.  This is not intended to replace the
            customer router/nat device, and will only be a Layer 2
            device as far as traffic goes. There will likely be some
            limited traffic shaping possible based on the underlying
            ethernet swtich chipset.

            Unfortunately, these can't be a $20 device.   $75 might be
            doable for higher volumes, but $100 is more in the comfort
            zone for the volumes I typically move. Of course, this is
            a CPE device and I'm not even sure how many I'd sell so
            these prices are guesses at best - but more likely to go
            down instead of up.

            Although I suspect most people would love to have one of
            these at each install, I have a hard time believing that
            most people would swallow adding even $75 to the cost of
            each install, let alone the $100 which might be the price
            I'd have to hit for lower volume.   Is this a fair
            assumption?  Would you add such a device to each install?







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