Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-14 Thread Steve Richfield
Mike, On 4/14/08, Mike Dougherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have little interest in downloading your software and tables and > arcane howto for making it all work. In my opinion, you really can't > call your product AGI until I can converse with it directly - either > via it's own email addr

Re: [agi] Logical Satisfiability...Get used to it.

2008-04-14 Thread Charles D Hixson
Jim Bromer wrote: Ben G wrote: >>...<< ... Concerning beliefs and scientific rationalism: Beliefs are the basis of all thought. To imply that religious belief might be automatically different from rational beliefs is naïve. However, I think there is an advantage in defining what a rational thou

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-14 Thread Mike Dougherty
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You've merely been a *TROLL* and gotten the appropriate response. Thanks > for playing but we have no parting gifts for you. > > Who is the "we" you are referencing? Do you have a mouse in your pocket, or > is that the

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-14 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Steve Richfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why go to all that work?! I have attached the *populated* Knowledge.mdb file > that contains the knowledge that powers the chronic illness demo of Dr. > Eliza. To easily view it, just make sure that any version of MS Access is > installed on your c

Re: [agi] Between logical semantics and linguistic semantics

2008-04-14 Thread Stephen Reed
Łukasz wrote: Perhaps you could get some linguist to capitalize on your work with a publication? Coincidentally, my abstract for the Fifth International Conference on Construction Grammar has been accepted for presentation at its poster session this September. Because the conference this ye

Re: [agi] Between logical semantics and linguistic semantics

2008-04-14 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
2008/4/14 Lukasz Stafiniak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Stephen Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Serial processing [word by word parsing] with algorithmic backtracking has > > no hope for on-line processing in real-time in a large coverage NLP system. > > I thi

Re: [agi] Logical Satisfiability...Get used to it.

2008-04-14 Thread Mark Waser
Concerning beliefs and scientific rationalism: Beliefs are the basis of all thought. To imply that religious belief might be automatically different from rational beliefs is naïve. However, I think there is an advantage in defining what a rational thought is realitve to AI programming and how s

Re: [agi] Between logical semantics and linguistic semantics

2008-04-14 Thread Lukasz Stafiniak
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Stephen Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My first solution to this problem is to postpone it by employing a > controlled English, in which such constructions will be avoided if possible. > Secondly, Jerry Ball demonstrated his solution in Double R Grammar at the

[agi] Logical Satisfiability...Get used to it.

2008-04-14 Thread Jim Bromer
Ben G wrote: >> FWIW, I wasn't joking about your algorithm's putative divine inspiration in my role as moderator, but rather in my role as individual list participant ;-) Sorry that my sense of humor got on your nerves. I've had that effect on people before! Really though: if you're going to pos

Re: [agi] He Wrote 200,000 Books (but Computers Did Some of the Work)

2008-04-14 Thread Bob Mottram
This reminds me of Rod Brooks saying that AGI may already be here but nobody has noticed it yet. With an AGI running a nice little business for you there may be no great incentive to advertise the fact openly to the world. If done well with a suitably flexible AI this kind of automatic content ge

Re: [agi] He Wrote 200,000 Books (but Computers Did Some of the Work)

2008-04-14 Thread Stephen Reed
Publishing computer-generated books on demand, aggregating many small profits, is an interesting illustration of The Long Tail. Considering an AGI, I anticipate that knowledge and skill acquisition will be facilitated by this principle. Obscure knowledge and skills can be acquired from, and

[agi] He Wrote 200,000 Books (but Computers Did Some of the Work)

2008-04-14 Thread Mark Waser
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Re: [agi] Between logical semantics and linguistic semantics

2008-04-14 Thread Stephen Reed
Lukasz, Thanks for the information about Word Grammar, which for anyone else interested, is described here, You asked: (4) I'm interested in how do you handle backtracking: giving up on application of a construction when it leads to inconsistency. Chart-based unification parsing can be optimized

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-14 Thread Mark Waser
Well, that's embarrassing . . . . flame somebody and realize that you got part of it wrong yourself . . . . ;-) __ Mark> If you can't prevent a program from sucking up 100% of your CPU, you aren't competent to be

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-14 Thread Mark Waser
ROTFLMAO! Excellent! Thank you. - Original Message - From: Steve Richfield To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker... Mark, On 4/13/08, Mark Waser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I then asked if anyone i

Re: [agi] Comments from a lurker...

2008-04-14 Thread Mark Waser
Steve > Perhaps you can relate your own experiences in this area. Argument from Authority . . . . but what the heck . . . . :-) Earliest scientific computing papers (one from the science side, one from the computing side) Computer Modeling of Muscle Phosphofructokinase Kinetics Journal of Th

Re: [agi] Posting Strategies - A Gentle Reminder

2008-04-14 Thread Ben Goertzel
These things of course require a balance. In many academic or corporate fora, radical innovation is frowned upon so profoundly (in spite of sometimes being praised and desired, on the surface, but in a confused and not fully sincere way), that it's continually necessary to remind people of the nee

Re: [agi] Posting Strategies - A Gentle Reminder

2008-04-14 Thread A. T. Murray
Bob Mottram writes: > > Good advice. There are of course sometimes > people who are ahead of the field, Like Ben Goertzel (glad to send him a referral recently from South Africa on the OpenCog list :-) > but in conversation you'll usually find that the > genuine inovators have a deep - border

Re: [agi] Posting Strategies - A Gentle Reminder

2008-04-14 Thread Bob Mottram
Good advice. There are of course sometimes people who are ahead of the field, but in conversation you'll usually find that the genuine inovators have a deep - bordering on obsessive - knowledge of the field that they're working in and are willing to demonstrate/test their claims to anyone even rem

[agi] Posting Strategies - A Gentle Reminder

2008-04-14 Thread Brad Paulsen
Dear Fellow AGI List Members: Just thought I'd remind the good members of this list about some strategies for dealing with certain types of postings. Unfortunately, the field of AI/AGI is one of those areas where anybody with a pulse and a brain thinks they can design a "program that thinks."