On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 7:05 AM, A. T. Murray menti...@scn.org wrote:
Fri.24.SEP.2010 -- Clamping Down on Stray Activations
Yesterday we made sure to upload our 21sep10A.F MindForth AI
code so that we could start fresh today with 24sep10A.F code.
In the previous code we made some progress in
On 5/22/07, J Storrs Hall, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not doing any active work on it at the moment, but my favorite approach
has been Mark Jones' active production networks, which are one of those
schemes that lies in the twilight between symbolic and connectionist. Like
Copycat, it is
Any opinions on Operator Grammar vs. Link Grammar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operator_Grammar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_grammar
Link Grammar seems to have spawned practical software, but Operator
Grammar has some compelling ideas including coherent selection,
information content and
On 3/24/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/07, rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I think Jey's comment is reasonable. It seems impractical to start a
collaborative AI project without having an AGI design which specifies
what
modules are there and how they
On 3/25/07, Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've seen heated arguments over computer languages on AI-related forums many
times before, so I've no intention of pimping any particular language
specifically for AGI development. Actually I think the state of the art in
software creation at the
On 3/25/07, rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/24/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/25/07, rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I think Jey's comment is reasonable. It seems impractical to start
On 3/24/07, rooftop8000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
one chooses a
decent option and gets on with it.
-- Ben
That's exactly the problem.. everyone just builds their
own ideas and doesn't consider how their ideas and code could
(later) be used by other people
If Novamente reaches human like,
It's cool that you posted the material here in case the site goes down
and also for searching purposes (as in searching my mailbox or the
archives), but I just wanted to point out that the original blog entry
has some good links in it. In other words, some of the text is linked
to related
On 3/22/07, Charles D Hixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, MS is claiming undefined things as being proprietary. As
such, I intend to stay totally clear of implementations of it's
protocols. Including mono. I am considering jvm, however, as Sun has
now freed the java license (and
up to 10M elements. (size is limited to memory space)
-- David Clark
- Original Message -
From: Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: agi@v2.listbox.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [agi] My proposal for an AGI agenda
Sometimes the slowness of a program
On 3/21/07, Shane Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/21/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sometimes the slowness of a program is not contained in a small
portion of a program.
Sure. For us however this isn't the case.
Cobra looks nice, very clean to read, even more so than
On 3/20/07, Shane Legg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ben, I didn't know you were a Ruby fan...
After working in C# with Peter I'd say that's is a pretty good choice.
Sort of like Java but you can get closer to the metal where needed
quite easily.
For my project we are using Ruby and C. Almost all
On 3/20/07, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shane Legg wrote:
Ben, I didn't know you were a Ruby fan...
Cassio has gotten me into Ruby ... but in Novamente it's used only
for prototyping, the real system is C++
For some non-AGI consulting projects we have also used Ruby.
Ruby runs
On 3/20/07, Charles D Hixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
rooftop8000 wrote:
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I think we should somehow allow people to use all the program languages they
want.
That somehow is the big problem. Most approaches to dealing with it
are...lamentable.
...
You can use closed modules if you have
recognition ... irrespective of scale, distortion and noise sounds
pretty interesting. Are these capabilities outside of current NNs? I'm
familiar with NNs ignoring noise, but not scale. But my NN
investigations are several years old...
I wonder if distortion includes any degree of rotation. I
On 3/20/07, Ben Goertzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would certainly expect that a mature Novamente system would be able to
easily solve this kind of
invariant recognition problem. However, just because a human toddler
can solve this sort of problem easily, doesn't
mean a toddler level AGI
There's a good chance this topic has been discussed before, so feel
free to point the way if that's the case. It's certainly been touched
on since I joined the list, but I wanted to break it out for its own
sake of discussion.
Background:
There is a contest that implements the Turing Test for
On 3/12/07, YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem:
1. To be able to read many fonts
2. even totally new and strange-looking ones
3. even for the FIRST time one encounters a new, strange font; and
4. To be able to improve proficiency for a familiar font.
The NeoLego or
On 3/6/07, Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A more detailed discussion is in
http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/wang.WhatAIShouldBe.pdf
One can usually infer the approximate date of such a paper from the
references, but not having a date still seems odd especially
considering that these papers
On 3/9/07, Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/9/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/6/07, Pei Wang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A more detailed discussion is in
http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/wang.WhatAIShouldBe.pdf
One can usually infer the approximate date
On 2/25/07, Kevin Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/26/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But wouldn't it be difficult to integrate the results of the
experimental copy back into the working copy which has since had new
experiences, memory formation and lessons at the end
This is a light article about the purpose and value of sleep in humans:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=437683in_page_id=1965
The article is nothing earth shattering, but it reminded me that I've
thought for a long time that an AGI would
Thanks, that was interesting stuff. Microsoft hosted a symposium on
programming languages in 2006, which I attended. So if you like this
kind of stuff, you might want to check out
http://www.langnetsymposium.com/speakers.asp which includes
presentations on Java, C#, Second Life, open source, and
On 2/20/07, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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It helps to remember that my target users are cognitive scientists who
want to be able to stay in a high-level thought mode (fancy way of
saying that my users ain't gonna be hackers).
Now I see why it would be a dev env, both from the
On 2/19/07, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow, I leave off email for two days and a 55-message Religious War
breaks out! ;-)
I promise this is nothing to do with languages I do or do not like (i.e.
it is non-religious...).
As many people pointed out, programming language matters
On 2/18/07, Mark Waser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chuck is also absolutely incorrect that the only way to generate code by
code is to use Reflection.Emit. It is very easy to have your code write
code in any language to a file (either real or virtual), compile it, and
then load the resulting
On 2/18/07, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chuck, I looked at Cobra yesterday, and I like it :-)
Glad to hear that. :-)
I will try to get some time and play with it. My love of Python, and
reluctant admittance of appreciating .NET, are pointing me in the
direction of using one of 3
On 2/18/07, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Waser wrote:
Chuck is also absolutely incorrect that the only way to generate code by
code is to use Reflection.Emit. It is very easy to have your code write
code in any language to a file (either real or virtual), compile it,
On 2/18/07, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Enough said. I think we can all get along, and learn something from
each other.
Oh, yeah??? Prove it!
LOL No, I'm totally kidding. I couldn't resist making that joke. :-)
There are certainly a couple people on this list that take every
On 2/18/07, Charles D Hixson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chuck Esterbrook wrote:
On 2/18/07, Eliezer S. Yudkowsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Waser wrote:
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I find C++ overly complex while simultaneously lacking well known
productivity boosters including:
* garbage collection
* language
On 2/17/07, Richard Loosemore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It is not always true that C++ is used (I am building my own language
and development environment to do it, for example), but if C++ is most
common in projects overall, that probably reflects the facts that:
...
Back in the old days, it
On 2/17/07, Aki Iskandar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Richard, Danny, Pei, Chuck, Eugen, Peter ... thanks all for answering
my question.
...
C# is definitely a productive language, mainly due to the IDE, and it
is faster than Java - however, it is strongly typed.
Perhaps the disadvantage to C#,
On 1/18/07, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- YKY (Yan King Yin) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not an academic (left uni a couple years ago) so I can't get academic
funding for this. If I can't start an AI business I'd have to entirely give
up AI as a career. I hope you can
://www.agiri.org/email
Thus, this msnbc article would do better at [singularity].
Thanks! Bruce
Chuck Esterbrook wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16545946/
Btw is it useful to post relevant articles on this list, or is
everyone already on the Kurzweil newsletter and seeing this stuff
anyway
On 1/13/07, Bob Mottram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually it doesn't matter what convention you use. You could simply have
an entry box on the screen, with a prompt saying please type a short
statement that you believe to be either true or false. Some parsing can do
the rest. To avoid
On 10/31/06, Matt Mahoney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I guess the AI problem is solved, then. I can already communicate with my
computer using formal, unambiguous languages. It already does a lot of
things better than most humans, like arithmetic, chess, memorizing long
lists and recalling them
On 10/31/06, Hartmut Prochaska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I created a google co-op search on cognition and mind at the following
adress: http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=012063233955606146991%3Adwsxidzld8s
Thanks. I was poking around and saw in the list of featured co-op
search sites,
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