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- Ian Parker
On 12 August 2010 05:46, John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com wrote:
I wasn't meaning to portray pessimism.
And that little sucker probably couldn't pick up a knife yet.
But this is a paradigm change happening where we will have many
Someone who really believes that P=NP should go to Saudi Arabia or the
Emirates and crack the Blackberry code.
- Ian Parker
On 12 August 2010 06:10, John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com wrote:
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From: Jim Bromer [mailto:jimbro...@gmail.com]
Re: [agi] Re
Clay's view of the matter.
You will *not* be able to decode Blackberry, of course.
- Ian Parker
2010/8/12 John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com
BTW here is the latest one:
http://www.win.tue.nl/~gwoegi/P-versus-NP/Deolalikar.pdf
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out too that there programs which will evaluate forces in a
multi-limb environment. In fact matrix theory was devised in the 19th
century.
- Ian Parker
On 12 August 2010 15:17, John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com wrote:
Typically the demo is some of the best that it can do. It looks like
What about DESTIN? Jim has talked about video. Could DESTIN be generalized
to 3 dimensions, or even n dimensions?
- Ian Parker
On 9 August 2010 07:16, John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com wrote:
Actually this is quite critical.
Defining a chair - which would agree with each instance
Point about DESTIN, it has no preconceived assumptions. Some of
the entities might be chairs, but it will not have been specifically told
about a chair.
- Ian Parker
On 9 August 2010 12:50, Jim Bromer jimbro...@gmail.com wrote:
The mind cannot determine whether or not -every- instance
. After all nothing has
yet achieved Turing status.
In the case of sex it may not be necessary for the client to believe that he
is confronted by a *real woman*. A top of the range masturbator/sex aid
may not have to pretend to be anything else.
- Ian Parker
On 8 August 2010 07:30, John G. Rose
a company as well as time
series analysis.
- Ian Parker
On 8 August 2010 02:35, Abram Demski abramdem...@gmail.com wrote:
Ben,
-The oft-mentioned stock-market prediction;
-data mining, especially for corporate data such as customer behavior,
sales prediction, etc;
-decision support systems
-- they are (hopefully) on the border.
--Abram
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Ian Parker ianpark...@gmail.com wrote:
Just one point about Forex, your first entry. This is purely a time series
analysis as I understand it. It is narrow AI in fact. With AGI you would
expect interviews
prospect of doing this.
- Ian Parker
On 7 August 2010 06:50, John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com wrote:
Philosophical question 2 - Would passing the TT assume human stupidity
and
if so would a Turing machine be dangerous? Not necessarily, the Turing
machine could talk about things like jihad
be a psychologist? I think it would
have to be. Could a TM become part of a population simulation that would
give us political insights.
These 3 questions seem to me to be the really interesting ones.
- Ian Parker
On 6 August 2010 18:09, John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com wrote:
statements
Cambrian and early Cambrian.
What AGI is interested in is how *language* evolves. That is to say the last
6 million years or so. We also need a process for creating AGI which is
rather more efficient than Evolution. We can't wait that time for something
to happen.
- Ian Parker
On 6 August 2010
On 1 August 2010 21:18, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
Ian Parker wrote
McNamara's dictum seems on
the face of it to contradict the validity of Psychology as a
science.
I don't think so. That in unforseen events people switch to
improvisation isn't suprising. Even an AGI
follow.
- Ian Parker
On 31 July 2010 00:47, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
Ian Parker wrote
games theory
It produced many studies, many strategies, but they weren't used that
much in the daily business. It's used more as a general guide.
And in times of crisis they preferred
.
Riemann would be proved if a converse was valid and the theorem proved
another way.
I am not really arguing deep philosophy, what I am saying is that a
non inscrutable system must go to its basic axioms.
- Ian Parker
On 31 July 2010 00:25, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
Ian
persist in working on completely the wrong theory.
Google is certain to uncover the *real motivators.*
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to provide
answers. This does not seem to be the case.
- Ian Parker
On 30 July 2010 18:54, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
(If you don't have time to read all this, scroll down to the
questions.)
I'm writing an article on the role of intelligent systems in the
field of International
Centre where
he lives, *not* the companion of Sherlock Holmes.
- Ian Parker
On 28 July 2010 16:10, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
A. T. Murray wrote
Robot: I AM ANDRU
Robot: I AM ANDRU
Robot: ANDRU HELPS KIDS
Robot: KIDS MAKE ROBOTS
Robot: ROBOTS NEED ME
Robot: I
On 28 July 2010 23:09, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
Ian Parker wrote
If we program a machine for winning a war, we must think well what
we mean by winning.
I wasn't thinking about winning a war, I was much more thinking about
sexual morality and men kissing.
If we
a useful exercise. We
would also eliminate genes that simply dealt with Calculus and steepest
descent.
I don't know whether it is useful to think in topological terms.
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cannot and should not be biologically based.
On 28 July 2010 15:59, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
Ian Parker wrote
There are the military costs,
Do you realize that you often narrow a discussion down to military
issues of the Iraq/Afghanistan theater?
Freeloading in social
On 28 July 2010 19:56, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
Ian Parker wrote
What we would want
in a *friendly* system would be a set of utilitarian axioms.
If we program a machine for winning a war, we must think well what
we mean by winning.
I wasn't thinking about winning
of opinion formation. This is the great unsolved
problem. In fact any system not based on NL, but based on a analogue
response is Calculus describable.
- Ian Parker
On 27 July 2010 14:00, Jan Klauck jkla...@uni-osnabrueck.de wrote:
Seems like there could be many many interesting questions
.
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will have to
look for symmetry and do what Hardy described as beautiful maths.
- Ian Parker
On 23 July 2010 04:02, Mike Archbold jazzbo...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:59 PM, deepakjnath deepakjn...@gmail.comwrote:
Why do we listen to a song sung in different scale and yet
But surely a number is a group of binary combinations if we represent the
number in binary form, as we always can. The real theorems are those which
deal with *numbers*. What you are in essence discussing is no more or less
than the *Theory of Numbers.*
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On 21 July 2010 20:17
in terms of logic.
- Ian Parker
On 21 July 2010 21:01, Jim Bromer jimbro...@gmail.com wrote:
Because a logical system can be applied to a problem, that does not mean
that the logical system is the same as the problem. Most notably, the
theory of numbers contains definitions that do
If I can express Arithmetic in logical terms it must be.
- Ian Parker
On 21 July 2010 21:38, Jim Bromer jimbro...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, Boolean Logic may be a part of number theory but even then it is
still not the same as number theory.
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Jim Bromer
you could do is go to BQ and ask them what they would be looking for
in an avatar.
- Ian Parker
On 19 July 2010 02:43, Colin Hales c.ha...@pgrad.unimelb.edu.au wrote:
Try this one ...
http://www.bentham.org/open/toaij/openaccess2.htm
If the test subject can be a scientist, it is an AGI
is *THE* problem since it will allow navigation between the different
programs on the Web.
MOLTO BTW does have its mathematical parts even though it is primerally
billed as a translator.
- Ian Parker
On 18 July 2010 14:41, deepakjnath deepakjn...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes
-technologies/project-molto_en.htmlon
the other hand translates into a common base. In the EU you cannot
prefer one language to another . MOLTO should be of considerable interest as
pure AGI as it will generate
OWLhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Ontology_Language from
NL documents.
- Ian Parker
is outside the Firewall because that is where Google has its proxy
server. Is YKY there, do you know?
- Ian Parker
2010/7/15 John G. Rose johnr...@polyplexic.com
Make sure you study that up YKY :)
John
*From:* YKY (Yan King Yin, 甄景贤) [mailto:generic.intellige...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday
in LSA terms.
- Ian Parker
On 7 July 2010 17:12, Gabriel Recchia grecc...@gmail.com wrote:
In short, instead of a pot of neurons, we might instead have a pot of
dozens of types of
neurons that each have their own complex rules regarding what other types
of neurons they
can connect
giving 2 bits saving on Hutter.
- Ian Parker
On 29 June 2010 07:32, rob levy r.p.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, the link I included was invalid, this is what I meant:
http://www.geog.ucsb.edu/~raubal/Publications/RefConferences/ICSC_2009_AdamsRaubal_Camera-FINAL.pdf
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010
are not.
I fact we would view a system as being intelligent if it could bring to bear
a large amount of knowledge onto the problem.
- Ian Parker
On 27 June 2010 22:36, M E botag...@hotmail.com wrote:
I sketched a graph the other day which represented my thoughts on the
usefulness of hardcoding
my French homework. Trivial and naive
remark, yet GT is open to all kinds of hacking. True AGI would not by
definition. This does in fact serve to indicate how far off we are.
- Ian Parker
On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 11:39 AM, The Wizard key.unive...@gmail.comwrote:
This is wishful thinking
learnt Spanish
even, at least not properly. We can find out what morphology a word has once
we have a few examples if*f* we have a morphological description built in.
- Ian Parker
A narrow embedded system, like say a DMV computer network is not an AGI.
But that doesn't mean an AGI could
embedded systems are themselves
searchable.
- Ian Parker
*From:* Ian Parker [mailto:ianpark...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Saturday, June 26, 2010 2:19 PM
*To:* agi
*Subject:* Re: [agi] The problem with AGI per Sloman
Actually if you are serious about solving a political or social question
the various countries before making a conclusion. AGI would
probably be what you would consult for long term solutions. It might not be
so good at dealing with something (say) like the Gaza flotilla. In coing to
this conclusion I have the University of Surrey and CRESS in mind.
- Ian Parker
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an AGI system should know why not
and hopefully be able to do something about it.
The lack of any real fault tolerance in our systems to me underlines just
how far off we really are.
- Ian Parker
On 24 June 2010 07:10, Dana Ream dmr...@sonic.net wrote:
How do you work
for engineering.
3,4,5 Absolutely not.
How do you solve World Hunger? Does AGI have to. I think if it is truly G
it has to. One way would be to find out what other people had written on the
subject and analyse the feasibility of their solutions.
- Ian Parker
On 24 June 2010 18:20, John G. Rose johnr
. However when we answer *Jeopardy* type questions parallelism
is involved. This becomes clear when we look at how Watson actually
works.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/magazine/20Computer-t.html
It
works in parallel and then finds the most probable answer.
- Ian Parker
- Ian Parker
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My comment is this. The brain in fact takes whatever speed it needs. For
simple processing it takes the full speed. More complex processing does not
require the same speed and so is taken more slowly. This is really an
extension of what DESTIN does spatially.
- Ian Parker
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