Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-15 Thread David Clark
- Original Message - From: Valentina Poletti To: agi@v2.listbox.com Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:17 PM Subject: [agi] just a thought Not in reference to any specific current discussion, I find it interesting that when people talk of human like intelligence

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Christopher Carr
Vladimir Nesov wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Matt Mahoney matmaho...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Valentina Poletti jamwa...@gmail.com wrote: Anyways my point is, the reason why we have achieved so much technology, so much knowledge in this time is precisely the

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Mike Tintner
Valentina, It's a v.g. point does refer. You're saying there is no individual without social intelligence, and we'll need a society of AGI's. It does refer to creativity. Every creative problem we face is actually, strictly, inseparable from a whole body of creative problems. In trying to

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Ronald C. Blue
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Matt Mahoney matmaho...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Valentina Poletti jamwa...@gmail.com wrote: Anyways my point is, the reason why we have achieved so much technology, so much knowledge in this time is precisely the we, it's the union of

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Bob Mottram
2009/1/14 Valentina Poletti jamwa...@gmail.com: Anyways my point is, the reason why we have achieved so much technology, so much knowledge in this time is precisely the we, it's the union of several individuals together with their ability to communicate with one-other that has made us advance

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Mike Tintner
Ron et al: I suspect that you guys are thinking like classic nerds - ok we just *multiply* the number of minds - a purely mathematical operation. But actually social thinking is much more than that - the minds will really need to *interact* - they can't just *parallel process* in the current

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Wed, 1/14/09, Christopher Carr cac...@pdx.edu wrote: Problems with IQ notwithstanding, I'm confident that, were my silly IQ of 145 merely doubled, I could convince Dr. Goertzel to give me the majority of his assets, including control of his businesses. And if he were to really meet

RE: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread John G. Rose
From: Matt Mahoney [mailto:matmaho...@yahoo.com] --- On Wed, 1/14/09, Christopher Carr cac...@pdx.edu wrote: Problems with IQ notwithstanding, I'm confident that, were my silly IQ of 145 merely doubled, I could convince Dr. Goertzel to give me the majority of his assets, including control

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Valentina Poletti
Cool, this idea has already been applied successfully to some areas of AI, such as ant-colony algorithms and swarm intelligence algorithms. But I was thinking that it would be interesting to apply it at a high level. For example, consider that you create the best AGI agent you can come up with

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Mike Tintner
Chris: Problems with IQ notwithstanding, I'm confident that, were my silly IQ of 145 merely doubled,.. Chris/Matt: Hasn't anyone ever told you - it's not the size of it, it's what you do with it that counts? --- agi Archives:

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Pei Wang
I guess something like this is in the plan of many, if not all, AGI projects. For NARS, see http://nars.wang.googlepages.com/wang.roadmap.pdf , under (4) Socialization in page 11. It is just that to attempt any non-trivial multi-agent experiment, the work in single agent needs to be mature

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-14 Thread Joshua Cowan
and/or have other ideas for encouraging empathy (assuming you see empathy as a good goal)? From: Pei Wang mail.peiw...@gmail.com Reply-To: agi@v2.listbox.com To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: [agi] just a thought Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:21:23 -0500 I guess something like this is in the plan

[agi] just a thought

2009-01-13 Thread Valentina Poletti
Not in reference to any specific current discussion, I find it interesting that when people talk of human like intelligence in the realm of AGI, they refer to the ability of a human individual, or human brain if you like. It just occurred to me that human beings are not that intelligent. Well, of

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-13 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- On Tue, 1/13/09, Valentina Poletti jamwa...@gmail.com wrote: Anyways my point is, the reason why we have achieved so much technology, so much knowledge in this time is precisely the we, it's the union of several individuals together with their ability to communicate with one-other that

Re: [agi] just a thought

2009-01-13 Thread Vladimir Nesov
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Matt Mahoney matmaho...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Valentina Poletti jamwa...@gmail.com wrote: Anyways my point is, the reason why we have achieved so much technology, so much knowledge in this time is precisely the we, it's the union of several