[agi] "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread James Bowery
The Metaculus question is now open: Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion? --

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
Earth, as a system, is coming to equilibrium state by physics (the highest form of technology, instant self-regeneration, hence the exponential speed these days). The universe/physics is lossy and can re-create our utopia (approx.) if Earth blows up. Lossless Compression is a given file/data (ex

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread rouncer81
you only gain exponential compression, if theres exponential repetition. :) -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf67f6c4584fac2f7-Mfa3095af291e7337192d9b22 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/gro

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
No I mean exponential Decompression, evolution, which re-Generates Earth back. Compression would be blowing Earth up. However as it decompresses and emerges, another compresses, hosting it. We burn fuel to make our context tech. My stomach breaks down cold motionless food to collect energy/matte

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread rouncer81
What do you mean by decompress? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf67f6c4584fac2f7-M07bdab0901c6fadedfbd5709 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
To create Earth from NOTHING. A world that avoids meteors and eats suns, made of nanobot cells. As the human neural network of friend compresses, it must prune human nodes. I think this is a good tidbit to hold onto for a few years. -- Artificial General In

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread rouncer81
So, its got nothing to do with compressing data? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf67f6c4584fac2f7-M656deb4fae69bd25f0e5e3bc Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
Dude, re-read my msgs carefully. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf67f6c4584fac2f7-M3f7ade34cefa54bcbc9458c7 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread rouncer81
So whats the difference between decompression and compression? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf67f6c4584fac2f7-M9ddf30eadbbc883c1ca8b91b Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subsc

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
Death and Life. You'll see soon in my work release. No free lunch/energy. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf67f6c4584fac2f7-M2e5bf1f9aeaad22f116434b9 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/group

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread rouncer81
compression is starting with something repetitive, and becoming not repetitive. decompression must be starting with something non repetitive, and getting something repetitive. ca'piche? -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.to

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
All base particles in the universe have the same laws. So it' just compressing them using GRAVITY. Decompression is big bang radiation like in unstable suns/uranium. However this compression is like decompression because we on Earth are growing larger compressing using gravity (food to mouth) at

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
Do note that spreading out as mentioned is radiation, there's no way around it. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf67f6c4584fac2f7-M287933797ff670b458f4eafa Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com

[agi] Re: "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread rouncer81
yes population growth is exponential.   but artificial things are even faster. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tf67f6c4584fac2f7-Mf7ad94d217fe662e13995d9a Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/

[agi] Taxonomic Term for Leggian (External Behavior, Ideal) Quadrant?

2019-12-25 Thread James Bowery
Since the collegial space of "AGI" has been overwhelmed with torrent of chatterbox prose indistinguishable from an open sewer main, it occurs to me that a moderated forum is called for that attempts to achieve what the "general" qualification of "AI" failed to achieve:  A focus on rigorous, top

[agi] software == ARGH!!!

2019-12-25 Thread Alan Grimes via AGI
Ok, since i'm wasting my life anyway playing video games, I might as well do it in style so I got myself a t-rex for my winsuck machine. But having paid a king's ransom for the damn thing I feel obliged to at least try to program it. So I download CUDA tools, then I installed VS'19... so far so g

Re: [agi] Re: rotation back in the olden days

2019-12-25 Thread Colin Hales
I have won a grant to build proof--of-principle hardware at macroscopic scales. 12 months. Basic 'computational unit', intrinsically adaptive. 1 million times scaled up so neuroscientists can hold it in their hands and acclimatise themselves to how it maps to membrane activity and then AGI. It's

[agi] Re: Taxonomic Term for Leggian (External Behavior, Ideal) Quadrant?

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
It does look like utter trash. But it's not in the way actually, my vision is well. Back in the day, there was a build up of AGI-talk. Now it is 'quite'. However I'm unsure, the old topics look just (much better) like chit-chat no? No actual plans or AGI architecture explained/summounted. Show

Re: [agi] Re: rotation back in the olden days

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
What are you building?? A huge chip? How big. And what algorithm? What will it 'do'? And, how can you see what happens in it? So lost. Why not generate a viz on the computer showing its activity? First of all, go to OpenAI's website and read the GPT-2 blog post, and try it at TalkToTransformer.

[agi] Releasing full AGI/evolution research

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
This is most of all my notes, images, algorithms etc summarized/unified in their recent forms. Here. I am 24 and started at 18 all this work. I make discoveries in my brain using mostly vision (visual language; shapes, cats, etc which has context, each explain each other like in a dictionary, a

[agi] Re: Releasing full AGI/evolution research

2019-12-25 Thread immortal . discoveries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mah0Bxyu-UI&t=2s -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T7cbcba9a1ae63532-M60883f60c76e778806700f05 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription

[agi] Big machine learning scientist embraces consciousness in machines

2019-12-25 Thread keghnfeem
Yoshua Bengio | From System 1 Deep Learning to System 2 Deep Learning | NeurIPS 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtUbMG3rlFs&feature=emb_logo -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Tb2b962ade3189d

Re: [agi] "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread Matt Mahoney
On Wed, Dec 25, 2019, 12:09 PM James Bowery wrote: > The Metaculus question is now open: > > Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model > selection criterion? >

Re: [agi] "Will lossless compression fail to be accepted as a macrosociology model selection criterion?"

2019-12-25 Thread James Bowery
To demonstrate data set size will be the least of our problems, take a random paper published in support of a controversial microsocial theory such as "Firearm availability and homicide: A review of the literature" since that is the first scholarly result I get from googling "gun control studies" (

Re: [agi] Re: rotation back in the olden days

2019-12-25 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
ok Colin Hales. We'll see you in 12 months' time and then know what you imagined AGI to be. POCs are great deal breakers. It must work 100% as designed, or else it's regarded as a total failure. There's no grey room for excuses there, no such a thing as a marginal POC. Then you should call it a