DIS: Draft Referee's Report

2017-04-19 Thread Owen Jacobson
The following is a DRAFT of the upcoming Referee’s report. The content makes some assumptions about Quazie’s ultimate fate. Suggestions encouraged! -o As Referee, I believe there are no outstanding no rules violations in the preceding Agoran week for which a Card has not already been issued. I

DIS: Re: BUS: Bankruptcy

2017-04-19 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Apr 19, 2017, at 11:55 PM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:29 PM Owen Jacobson > wrote: > > Leaving aside that one budget is not fully determinate, it is definitely the > case that, if Quazie

DIS: Re: BUS: Referee election resolution v2

2017-04-19 Thread Owen Jacobson
I look forward to serving. -o > On Apr 17, 2017, at 5:51 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I deputise for the Associate Director of Personnel to resolve the Agoran > Decision to decide on the referee. I resolve the Agoran Decision as

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The gig economy

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
It could be scaling where a person purports to have completed a gig and are awarded five shinies without 2 objections, but with two support it may be increased. This scaling could be proportional to length. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Aris Merchant <

Re: DIS: Porto-Proposal: Freedom in Agency Powers

2017-04-19 Thread Aris Merchant
Revised draft: Amend Rule 2467, "TLAs", by: changing its name to "Agencies"; and by changing the paragraph beginning "The Powers of an Agency..." to read: The Powers of an Agency must be stated as actions, although they may may be conditional on date, time, game state, or other

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The gig economy

2017-04-19 Thread Aris Merchant
Minor grammar tweak: in the sentence "the goal of such reports is to create a more informed population," there is an apparent plurality mismatch between "reports" and "is". I know that the subject is actually "the goal", but it feels a bit awkward. Suggested substance changes: I'd support

Re: DIS: (no subject)

2017-04-19 Thread Aris Merchant
Seems about right, based on other people's translations. The nice thing about the Bible is that plenty of people have translated it. I wouldn't know myself, as I'm only a first year Latin student, and your Latin is almost certainly better than mine. -Aris On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 1:13 PM, Publius

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The gig economy

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I would like a new ribbon. Also, I would support this more if there were not a limit on the number of people who could perform it and only a limit on certain things which should only occur once per week. On Wednesday, April 19, 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed,

Re: DIS: (no subject)

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I don't think it does. Would you say my translation seems about right? I am a bit out of practice. On Wednesday, April 19, 2017, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's from the Vulgate. Acts 3:15, and as far as I can tell it has nothing > to do with anything. Am I

Re: DIS: Proto-lazy Sunday

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
This would work well with some fleshing out. On Wednesday, April 19, 2017, Quazie wrote: > There exists a switch on Agora representing Agora current state of > activity - it has two values, Lazy and Happening. > > Agora's activity can be set to Lazy without 3 objections.

Re: DIS: Robo-Ref-ideas

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Maybe allow a status in which you become the provisional office and are not payed, but also not fined. On Wednesday, April 19, 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > Good point. I suggest that we also levy a fine.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Weekly Report

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I like the idea of bringing back the fearmonger and making the waived fee a gig. On Wednesday, April 19, 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Minor point of order for new folks: > > We've historically promoted bottom-posting for replies (with editing of > past > thread pieces

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The gig economy

2017-04-19 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2017-04-19 at 06:33 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Proto:  The Gig Economy Haven't checked the details, but I really like this idea. We could definitely do with fewer mandatory-duty offices. I can see an argument for converting the Referee into one of these too (when the game's going

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Weekly Report

2017-04-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
Minor point of order for new folks: We've historically promoted bottom-posting for replies (with editing of past thread pieces allowed). Unfortunately not well-supported by current email clients. I mildly prefer bottom-posting for things like judicial threads with counter arguments.

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Weekly Report

2017-04-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > Agreed, and that should apply to everyone, not just the Speaker. Want to make > the whole thing a gig? While we've been falling short of the ideal in the last few months, I think there's some things we want to encourage (1) regular weekly reports

Re: DIS: (no subject)

2017-04-19 Thread Aris Merchant
It's from the Vulgate. Acts 3:15, and as far as I can tell it has nothing to do with anything. Am I missing something? -Aris On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 3:06 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Rough translation, after fixing some misdeclension:

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Weekly Report

2017-04-19 Thread Quazie
I quite like making this idea a gig as well. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 09:54 Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed, and that should apply to everyone, not just the Speaker. Want to > make the whole thing a gig? > > -Aris > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 2:55 AM Publius

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Weekly Report

2017-04-19 Thread Aris Merchant
Agreed, and that should apply to everyone, not just the Speaker. Want to make the whole thing a gig? -Aris On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 2:55 AM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > ​Also, maybe a rule that waives the shiny fee on pending a proposal, if

DIS: Proto-lazy Sunday

2017-04-19 Thread Quazie
There exists a switch on Agora representing Agora current state of activity - it has two values, Lazy and Happening. Agora's activity can be set to Lazy without 3 objections. Agora's activity can be set to Happening with 3 support. When Agora's activity is set to Lazy, all penalties for

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The gig economy

2017-04-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Quazie wrote: > should one get a cyan ribbon for doing enough gigs? Good idea. Or an entirely new Ribbon.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The gig economy

2017-04-19 Thread Quazie
should one get a cyan ribbon for doing enough gigs? On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 06:33 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > (Some jobs don't need regular Offices, but should be rewarded with payoffs > as they are valuable to Agora). > > Proto: The Gig Economy > > Create the following

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The gig economy

2017-04-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > The following Gigs are defined: Additional (brings in the other discussion thread going on): Narc: Point the Finger at 1 or more Officers for failing to perform official duties, with an emphasis on penalizing excessively

Re: DIS: Robo-Ref-ideas

2017-04-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Good point. I suggest that we also levy a fine. Maybe their officer > pay from all of the months in which they didn't report, with some form > of fine on top of that? Just as a note, I've been trying to give the Arbitor's job away

Re: DIS: (no subject)

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Rough translation, after fixing some misdeclension: You all have killed the true creator of life, who god has brought to life from the dead to which we are witnesses. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus 2017-04-18 22:25 GMT-04:00 James Beirne : > auctorem vero vitae

Re: DIS: Proto-Research-Assistant

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Well, I am not sure that we need the Archivist to be writing about history because that is one of the reasons which you could receive a degree for. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 2:35 AM, Quazie wrote: > That's a great name - and monthly was

Re: DIS: Robo-Ref-ideas

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
The fine idea seems more punitive and therefore I support it. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:35 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Ørjan Johansen > wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18,

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Weekly Report

2017-04-19 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
​Also, maybe a rule that waives the shiny fee on pending a proposal, if the pool has been empty for a certain length of time.​ Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > A solid +1. Theme proposals encouraged? > > -o > > On

Re: DIS: Proto-Research-Assistant

2017-04-19 Thread Quazie
That's a great name - and monthly was a time frame I was looking at - I might make it a switch actually that can be flipped without some objection - if we get into an active period again it might be nice to easily switch the type of reporting on a newspaper. On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 23:33 Aris

Re: DIS: Proto-Research-Assistant

2017-04-19 Thread Aris Merchant
How about Archivist? Also, may I suggest that newspaper, if it is kept, should be made monthly? -Aris On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:25 PM Quazie wrote: > I was going to suggest that there be a new position of journalist or > librarian or Local Blogger or something that

Re: DIS: Proto-Research-Assistant

2017-04-19 Thread Quazie
I was going to suggest that there be a new position of journalist or librarian or Local Blogger or something that combines the two ideas in a reasonable way - be a resource of information and possibly do some general summarizing of events with less obligation than is on the reporter - will the

Re: DIS: Proto-Research-Assistant

2017-04-19 Thread Aris Merchant
I disagree. It seems perfectly reasonable to ask the reporter to link to resources, but requiring them to do research on request seems unnecessary. It doesn't fit well with my conception of the reporter's job description anyway. -Aris On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 11:17 PM Quazie

Re: DIS: Proto-Research-Assistant

2017-04-19 Thread Quazie
That's super reasonable - next draft will combine the two. On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 23:11 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Quazie wrote: > > [...] The Research Assistant [...] > > I think this should replace or be merged/combined with the very > inactive

Re: DIS: Proto-Research-Assistant

2017-04-19 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Quazie wrote: > [...] The Research Assistant [...] I think this should replace or be merged/combined with the very inactive (since its beginning) Reporter.