Would any of the new players like to sit up before the next
rotation? (See Rule 1871.)
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ais523 wrote:
CoE: The Mad Scientist has weekly duties but not monthly duties, therefore
I am due to gain 1 E note for fulfilling those duties, and have already
gained three E notes from such duties.
Admitted. The
no relation that I know of
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Welcome to Agora! Any relation to ais523?
-root
--
Chester Mealer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is just an idea I'm playing around with at the moment and does not meet
the requirements of rule 106 yet to be a proposal.
Anyone have thoughts on this:
Amend rule: 1922
To append the following text:
(g) Official Greeter, to be awarded by the IADoP, to any player who
announces eir
2008/6/17 Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I CFJ on the following statement: If ehrid was able to act on my
behalf at the time CFJ 1999 and CFJ 2000 were called one or more of
the set of {CFJ 1999, CFJ 2000} would've been TRUE.
The more interesting question behind these CFJs is what ehrid's
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I no longer agree to the previous version of this.
I agree to the following:
1) The name of this public contract is The Werewolves of Agora Nomic.
...
b) Each townsperson CAN second a nomination made by another
Proto (take II):
Chambers
AI: 3
{
Create a new rule titled Chambers with Power=3 and the text:
{{
A player who is a member of an existing public contract CAN make the
contract into a chamber with Agoran consent. A chamber requires no
parties. The authority index of a chamber is an rational number
It seems like your proposal should say with Agoran Consent where it says
without.
Any player CAN cause a chamber to cease to be a chamber without Agoran
consent.
Unless I missed a rule where CAN = cannot this would mean at any time a
player could simply declare a chamber as not a chamber.
so
On 6/17/08, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
votes
Voting when identifying proposals strictly by number (as opposed to
quoting the distribution message) makes it much more difficult for the
general public to see what you're voting for or against.
Then again, that may be the desired result.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It seems like your proposal should say with Agoran Consent where it says
without.
Oops...thanks!
BobTHJ
comex wrote:
On 6/17/08, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
votes
Voting when identifying proposals strictly by number (as opposed to
quoting the distribution message) makes it much more difficult for the
general public to see what you're voting for or against.
Then again, that may be
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it just me, or is there no defined length for the voting period? I
suppose Rule 107 says it should last for seven days, but that seems a
bit long.
Section d) defines when it ends.
I suspect that as soon as possible after
BobTHJ wrote:
Oops...I also revoke 3 points from Quazie.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Quazie doesn't have 3 points.
(It's hard to see how e could have gained them in such a short
time.) If Quazie did get the land e wanted, and didn't have the
points, I'm off to buy several thousand lands for
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I nominate Wooble for lynching.
I second this.
Well I guess I should have expected that.
Umm, do I really need a 2-day discussion period to point out to the
non-werewolves out there that there's a 75% chance they're making a
So, Wooble nominated comex, then ehird nominated Wooble and comex
seconded. That isn't a lot to go on, but there's some information
there, at least.
Seconding that quickly is rare in real-life games of Mafia, I
find. Nominating immediately on no evidence is surprisingly common,
either to glean
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BobTHJ wrote:
Oops...I also revoke 3 points from Quazie.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Quazie doesn't have 3 points.
(It's hard to see how e could have gained them in such a short
time.) If Quazie did get the land e
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, all the players here could have an innocent reason
or a guilty reason for what they did, although comex jumping in and
closing off the nomination period like that is kind-of suspicious.
Not that I want to
Seeing what's happened to B Nomic recently (apparently almost
everything since last December has been illegal due to
specifying SHALL rather than SHALL and CAN), I think it's
probably a good idea to have some way to fix Agora if things
go really bad. So this is an attempt to write a rule which
Wooble wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it just me, or is there no defined length for the voting period? I
suppose Rule 107 says it should last for seven days, but that seems a
bit long.
Section d) defines when it ends.
I suspect that as soon
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, all the players here could have an innocent reason
or a guilty reason for what they did, although comex jumping in and
closing off
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:28 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 4:54 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I mill 5547, 5548, and 5549 (using X crops as 5s), Democratic
proposals, for a total of 12
2008/6/17 Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The following sentence is a win announcement, as defined in Rule
2186, and this sentence serves to explicitly label it as one.
The Call for Judgement with ID number 1980 is a tortoise, and has
continuously been a tortoise for no greater than four
Chester Mealer wrote:
(g) Official Greeter, to be awarded by the IADoP, to any player who
announces eir intent to become a greeter with Agoran consent (ratio 1).
Why do it as a patent title when we have an office mechanism?
-zefram
Because it wasn't well enough thought through, that's why i made sure it was
not a proposal.
I figured the patent title would let it be only semi-official and allow for
multiple greeters. I was under the impression only one player could fill an
office.
--
Chester Mealer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
I proto the following proposal: - 'The Hydra'
-
Create a rule entitled 'The Hydra' with the following text:
The Hydra is a multi-headed monster that is not controlled by the Mad
Scientist. Only Hurcules may attempt to slay the Hydra, all other
beings are far to weak.
-
I proto the
Ian Kelly wrote:
What ever happened to this proposal?
I lost it. Crap. It'll be in the next batch.
-zefram
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Zefram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hereby initiate a criminal case with Quazie as defendant,
alleging that e violated rule 2149 by publicly claiming in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED] that
Echidna and Typhon are coauthors (or a coauthor) of the proposal that
e
On Jun 17, 2008, at 12:55 AM, Chester Mealer wrote:
I am posting an announcement of my intent to register as a player
under the name cdm014
Welcome to Agora, cdm014!
How did you find us?
-
Benjamin Schultz KE3OM
OscarMeyr
On Jun 17, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Quazie wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Geoffrey Spear
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Alexander Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unfortunately, all the players here could have an innocent reason
or a guilty reason for what they
cdm014 wrote:
I was under the impression only one player could fill an office.
But offices can be (and have been) filled by partnerships.
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 16:48:00 Ed Murphy wrote:
cdm014 wrote:
I was under the impression only one player could fill an office.
But offices can be (and have been) filled by partnerships.
Yeah, I'd definitely go with an office for that. But I like the idea.
avpx
On Tuesday 17 June 2008 13:53:39 Alexander Smith wrote:
Seeing what's happened to B Nomic recently (apparently almost
everything since last December has been illegal due to
specifying SHALL rather than SHALL and CAN), I think it's
probably a good idea to have some way to fix Agora if things
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Benjamin Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I agree with Wobble, comex was just trying to save eir ass.
Where I played my one game and have watched others, we call this an Oh My
Gosh You Suck lynch vote, and it is generally treated as not being a Good
Thing.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Chester Mealer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nomic Wiki after finding out about nomic and tried one game in person.
--
Chester Mealer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
What game did you play in person? I was introduced to the concept of
Nomic in a similar way, through playing a
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seeing what's happened to B Nomic recently (apparently almost
everything since last December has been illegal due to
specifying SHALL rather than SHALL and CAN)
Well, that was just my opinion and a Consultation stating
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:36 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would not be surprised if I
wound up dead tomorrow, if Wooble doesn't get lynched.
Well, assuming you and ehird aren't both werewolves, killing one of
you to make people suspect I was getting revenge would be the logical
move.
2008/6/18 Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What game did you play in person? I was introduced to the concept of
Nomic in a similar way, through playing a game of dots (a nomicified
version of the type of dots game you play where you make squares for
points) at school.
A game of nomic, presumably.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I request subsidy.
Fails. Subsidy is 7, you have 8 lands.
BobTHJ
So, um, a contract caused a win by paradox by saying if it's X, it
becomes Y; if it's Y, it becomes Z; if it's Z, it becomes X; if it's
X, stuff can happen, which is merely ambiguous?
Note to self, then: jump on top of every ambiguity, and always appeal
judgements of UNDECIDABLE.
--Ivan Hope
Quazie wrote:
If possible I bar ehrid from the above CFJ.
Not possible. Rule 591, excerpt:
The initiator is unqualified to be assigned as judge of the
case, and in the initiating announcement e CAN disqualify one
person from assignment as judge of the case.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Amended rule number gain Floor(power) random Crops
Might want to update this.
--
Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown
(Still not a proposal)
revised after some discussion now version 2.1
Agoran Welcoming Committee
1. This creates an office called Agoran Greeter.
2. This office is an imposed office.
3. This office shall remain vacant until imposed upon a partnership entitled
Agoran Welcoming Committee. Should
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 7:27 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I make the following contract with the AFO: {{
1. This public contract (which becomes a public contract when it
forms) is called Mr. Monopoly 1. Parties to this
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
None of this happened, as all the parties are the same as the AFO in
first-party members.
So?
--
Taral [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you.
-- Unknown
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I set the deposit rate of 0 crops to 55.8 and the withdrawal rate to 1.1.
I set the deposit rate of 1 crops to 95.4 and the withdrawal rate to 1.1.
I set the deposit rate of 2 crops to 86.4 and the withdrawal rate to 1.1.
I
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Roger Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I set the deposit rate of 0 crops to 55.8 and the withdrawal rate to 1.1.
I set the deposit rate of 1 crops to 95.4 and the withdrawal rate to 1.1.
I set
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:27 PM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I make the following contract with the AFO: {{
Now that you robbed the bank, any chance you might cause the AFO to
approve the recent attempted changes to it?
BobTHJ
Quazie wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BobTHJ wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I rename land #75 to Union Train Depot
Fails. A land already exists with that name.
I rename land #75 to The Courthouse.
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:13 PM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:16 AM, comex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I nominate Wooble for lynching.
I second this.
Well I guess I should have expected that.
Umm, do I really need a 2-day discussion period to point out to
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quazie wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BobTHJ wrote:
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:44 AM, Ed Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I rename land #75 to Union Train Depot
Fails. A land
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I CFJ on the following statements:
1 - BobTHJ successfully created land #98 in Quazie's possession On or
about Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:59 PM.
BobTHJ has attempted to first create a land in my possession and then
revoke 3 points
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Quazie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I proto the following proposal: - 'The Hydra'
-
Create a rule entitled 'The Hydra' with the following text:
The Hydra is a multi-headed monster that is not controlled by the Mad
Scientist. Only Hurcules may attempt to slay
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Ian Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think you mean Hercules. Also, the last sentence is a run-on.
Will fix the spelling in next proto.
1. This is a public contract. The name of this contract is Hurcules.
Per judicial precedent, contracts cannot generally
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Judgements on CFJs called after this proposal passes
are appropriate if and only if they would be appropriate
if the Gnarlier Contract had never been a pledge.
Ineffective. Proposal effects are instantaneous, not
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Alexander Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Seeing what's happened to B Nomic recently (apparently almost
everything since last December has been illegal due to
specifying SHALL rather than SHALL and CAN),
Silly B Nomic. But I thought they had a rule explicitly
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Geoffrey Spear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for reasons, what information about the other players could we
possibly have this early?
Er, well, the werewolves already have nearly perfect information.
-root
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:58 PM, ihope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Also, the rules (especially rules with power less than 2, that of rule
2145, Partnerships) can't just create partnerships; to be a
partnership, something has to be a binding agreement governed by the
rules which devolves its legal
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