Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

2018-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
oh I *totally* misread the transparent ribbon rule when I went for it last and didn't see this subtlety. Nice one, and hopefully I didn't mess up anyone's strategies. On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > Yes, but if you don't already own the ribbon before earning it, there is a >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

2018-11-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
No way to take it back now, but for future reference, awarding someone a (non-grey) ribbon against eir will is not necessarily a boon, because it makes it marginally more difficult to qualify for a transparent ribbon in the future. You already have one, but ATMunn and Corona don't. (Nor does

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Quick proposals

2018-11-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Pending’s gone, so can you retract? Gaelan > On Oct 31, 2018, at 10:41 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Right you are, Ørjan. I retract the two proposals I have most recently > submitted and instead submit the following two: > > - > Title: Only proposals should be distributed > AI: 1 >

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] let's do some space

2018-11-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
I appreciate you've just spent a lot of time writing it _out_ of the proposal, but I actually preferred the system where spaceships were assets, like someone else (I think Gaelan?) mentioned on the previous draft. It makes extensibility much easier because we can say things like Spaceships

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Quick proposals

2018-11-01 Thread Reuben Staley
Retracting doesn't un-pend it, it removes it from the proposal pool. See rule 2350, the last paragraph: "The author of a proposal in the Proposal Pool CAN remove (syn. retract, withdraw) it from the Pool by announcement." On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 00:17 Gaelan Steele wrote: > Pending’s gone, so can

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

2018-11-01 Thread Reuben Staley
Actually, that's false. You don't have to award yourself five ribbons to get Transparent, you just have to meet the qualifications. On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 01:45 Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > No way to take it back now, but for future reference, awarding someone a > (non-grey) ribbon against eir will

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

2018-11-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
Yes, but if you don't already own the ribbon before earning it, there is a longer time period in which it counts towards the transparent ribbon. For example: Day 1 12:00: You earn a violet ribbon, but don't qualify for it because you already have one. The earning of the violet ribbon begins to

DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8112-8122

2018-11-01 Thread Reuben Staley
It's cool that you want to vote again, but you unfortunately have voting strength 0 since you have 3 or more blots. On another note, you're a zombie so if you intend to seriously get back into the game, you should probably flip your matter switch. On Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 16:10 Rebecca wrote: >

DIS: Re: BUS: salary equalisation

2018-11-01 Thread Reuben Staley
Hold up, were you even around when we had shinies? Are you just an Agoran History nerd? This seems like a mistake only a person who joined before your time cold have committed. On Nov 1, 2018 10:30, "Timon Walshe-Grey" wrote: I submit the following proposal:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: salary equalisation

2018-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
When I wrote Paydays (I think I drafted that text), I purposefully wanted Speaker to be a sinecure with a salary, as a perk for winning. Aside: I really hate the lack of pending, and just plopping proposals in the pool without review (including mine). Watching the proposals in the last

DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] The Ribbon Bar

2018-11-01 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey
On Thursday, November 1, 2018 2:01 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: > (Remove this comment before publishing the report!) Drat. -twg

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2018-11-01 Thread Rebecca
yeah but this isn't a scam just a self-own lol. On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 9:22 AM Reuben Staley wrote: > You and Cuddles both have an unbelievable track record of ridiculous > CFJs called because of your actions. > > On 11/01/2018 03:37 PM, Rebecca wrote: > > I pledge that I am indeed a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2018-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
Gratuitous: There may be a meta-faking here. Pledges are to perform or not perform actions, pledging that you are someone or something isn't pledging an action (yes, "to be" is a verb, but I still argue that a state of being isn't an action in this sense). So this fails to make a pledge, so

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8112-8122

2018-11-01 Thread Rebecca
Damn well in three weeks I'll see you again with voting strength lol. On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 3:02 AM Reuben Staley wrote: > It's cool that you want to vote again, but you unfortunately have voting > strength 0 since you have 3 or more blots. > > On another note, you're a zombie so if you intend

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2018-11-01 Thread ATMunn
I'm not going to do it, but now I kind of want to intentionally break a minor rule just to see what apology words I have to use. On 11/1/2018 11:43 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: Nobody else having expressed interest, I deputise for the Referee to Impose the Cold Hand of Justice by levying a

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] let's do some space

2018-11-01 Thread ATMunn
On 11/1/2018 4:05 AM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: I appreciate you've just spent a lot of time writing it _out_ of the proposal, but I actually preferred the system where spaceships were assets, like someone else (I think Gaelan?) mentioned on the previous draft. It makes extensibility much

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] let's do some space

2018-11-01 Thread ATMunn
I had wondered if that might be a problem. Don't know how exactly how to fix it though. On 10/31/2018 9:36 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: On Wed, 31 Oct 2018, ATMunn wrote: Imminent Sector is an singleton switch, tracked by the Spacekeepor, defaulting to 1. Every time a player receives

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Deputisation

2018-11-01 Thread Reuben Staley
You and Cuddles both have an unbelievable track record of ridiculous CFJs called because of your actions. On 11/01/2018 03:37 PM, Rebecca wrote: I pledge that I am indeed a 26-year-old woman named Jenny Johnson. The pledge I made above is true. I point a finger at myself for oathbreaking and

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Reminder to claim violet ribbons

2018-11-01 Thread ATMunn
Huh, I was sure I awarded myself one last night after seeing the post. I guess I didn't. On 11/1/2018 1:46 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: Oh foo, I award a Violet ribbon to each of the below-indicated persons who doesn't have one yet. Notice of Honour +1 twg (reminding us) -1 Trigon (a little less

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Quick proposals

2018-11-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Is this really what you want? Gaelan > On Nov 1, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: > > 2. For each office, if a single player held that office for 16 or > more days in the previous month and no unforgivable fines were > levied on em for eir conduct in that office during

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Quick proposals

2018-11-01 Thread Reuben Staley
Once again, Ørjan is correct. I retract my most recently submitted proposal and submit the following one: - Title: High-level asset verbs AI: 3 Author: Trigon Coauthors: [ COMMENT: This terminology is ripped from the coins rule and applies to all assets. I really like this one. ] Amend

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Recent New CFJs

2018-11-01 Thread D. Margaux
Purely accidental. I hit send too early, thought I had successfully prevented it from actually sending, added the 3rd CFJ, sent it again, then saw I sent it twice. So, sorry all. > On Nov 1, 2018, at 8:11 PM, ATMunn wrote: > > Any reason why you sent this twice (once with the last CFJ and

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Proposal] Quick proposals

2018-11-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, Gaelan Steele wrote: Is this really what you want? Gaelan On Nov 1, 2018, at 3:37 PM, Reuben Staley wrote: 2. For each office, if a single player held that office for 16 or more days in the previous month and no unforgivable fines were levied on em for

DIS: Murphy's Lawlessness (Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Referee] The Police Blotter (Weekly Report))

2018-11-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Fri, 2 Nov 2018, Rebecca wrote: I expunge a blot from myself Looking at the recent blot history, someone should remind Murphy e might want to start doing this too. Greetings, Ørjan. On Fri, Nov 2, 2018 at 2:54 AM Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: Date of this weekly report: 2018-11-01 Date

DIS: Re: BUS: Recent New CFJs

2018-11-01 Thread ATMunn
Any reason why you sent this twice (once with the last CFJ and one without)? On 11/1/2018 6:01 PM, D. Margaux wrote: On Oct 31, 2018, at 12:32 PM, Timon Walshe-Grey wrote: I CFJ: "Gaelan transferred a coin to me today." This is CFJ 3678. I assign it to Murphy. On Nov 1, 2018, at 5:45

Re: DIS: [Proto-proposal] let's do some space

2018-11-01 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 1 Nov 2018, ATMunn wrote: I had wondered if that might be a problem. Don't know how exactly how to fix it though. You could move either the increment or the Section setting to the other rule. Incidentally, this would also imply that it now subtly matters in which order Welcome

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: salary equalisation

2018-11-01 Thread Reuben Staley
That really wasn't the point to take away from that message, but okay. On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 11:39 ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk < ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 11:37 -0600, Reuben Staley wrote: > > Even simpler: players can submit proposals but a different person has > > to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: salary equalisation

2018-11-01 Thread Kerim Aydin
This one's a really good idea in principle: last time we tried it, someone who believed in free proposals whipped up a "anyone can act on my behalf to support creating/pending a proposal" contract. Not sure if it's worth making exceptions to act-on-behalf for such things or if that becomes too

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: salary equalisation

2018-11-01 Thread Gaelan Steele
Proto: create proposals with 1 support. Supporter SHOULD check the proposal against [list of common mistakes we keep somewhere] Gaelan > On Nov 1, 2018, at 9:58 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > When I wrote Paydays (I think I drafted that text), I purposefully wanted > Speaker to be a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: salary equalisation

2018-11-01 Thread Reuben Staley
Even simpler: players can submit proposals but a different person has to pend them, after checking for mistakes. Oh, and it has to be an active player. On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 11:32 Gaelan Steele wrote: > Proto: create proposals with 1 support. Supporter SHOULD check the > proposal against [list

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: salary equalisation

2018-11-01 Thread ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
On Thu, 2018-11-01 at 11:37 -0600, Reuben Staley wrote: > Even simpler: players can submit proposals but a different person has > to pend them, after checking for mistakes. Oh, and it has to be an > active player. Given that pending isn't in the rules at the moment, the dependent action version